So, I have built hundreds of cabinet doors. AND edge sanding is a RPIA.
It is time consuming and relatively inaccurate at best.


So 10 or so years ago I decided a stationary edge sander might be the
solution. And then I reconsidered, given the price and all. So up
until the day before yesterday I continued to edge sand with my hand
held sander. In fact I edge sanded 29 white oak kitchen cabinet doors
on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Going back about 6 months I learned that, wait for it, wait, wait,
Festool has come out with an edge sanding attachment for their newest
ROS 125 sander.

Woah.... Smaller than a stationary edge sander, and, well that is about
it. Not available in the U.S. until some time in October. And yet I
did not see the attachment become relatively available until a week or
so ago. So I started searching to buy this attachment. Amazon,
Woodcraft, all the normal stockers of Festool had it in stock. Price
$99. What??? What is the catch? The catch is that it only fits one of
two brand new Festool Sanders. OK so which ones. Ah, the new corded
one and the battery operated one.
The corded one is $205. The ETS 125 REQ-Plus.

Soooo a corded Festool 5" ROS and edge guide for $304.00??? Yup that
is it.

So I proceed to buy both items and come to a scree4ching halt. No one
has the sander in stock and the earliest expected delivery date is late
May. ;~(

I searched on line for 3 days and no luck untillllll, I finished edge
sanding 29 cabinet doors. and the next morning I decided to check
a local hard wood dealer in the down town Houston area. I thought maybe
they will have the sander and if they do I can buy the attachment
anywhere. So call, Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way. Oh! One more thing
Steve, do you have the edge sander attachment? YES! he says, and I'm
already out the door.

So Steve works for a hardwood dealer that is not known to be the least
expensive supplier in town but they have been around forever, well they
looked old 40 years ago and Steve was there 40 years ago too. He seemed
much younger then. So On the way to the lumber yard I was thinking.
Thank goodness for Festool pricing policy, every one sells for the same
price. And indeed Steve sold me the combination of tools for exactly
what every one was selling the tools for. Whew!

So I am back home and begin attaching the attachment to the sander and
calibrating the 90 degree setting and all is well. I actually remove
the sander from the attachment via 2 5mm hex head bolts, and then
reattach. I wanted to see if the calibration remained accurate, Yes!

Then on to testing. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Shockingly easy, fast, great results!!!

Soooo this pic is of a scrap piece of 3/4" white oak plywood. It's hat
you would expect the factory edge to look like.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...in/dateposted/

Then about 5 seconds of sanding with the new edge sander with 180 grit
paper.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And is the edge still square? YES!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And best of all, that edge is as smooth as glass with sharp corners.

If you ever considered a Festool sander, this one is relatively
inexpensive, $205.00 and includes the new reusable style dust collector
bag, and Systainer. And for $99.00 more you have a very very good edge
sander.

On 3/5/2021 10:56 AM, Leon wrote:


The goods!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PifPI2uOsr0&t=3s


And a pro that I feel is truthful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktWvytsXXW8

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 11:56:18 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
So, I have built hundreds of cabinet doors. AND edge sanding is a RPIA.
It is time consuming and relatively inaccurate at best.


So 10 or so years ago I decided a stationary edge sander might be the
solution. And then I reconsidered, given the price and all. So up
until the day before yesterday I continued to edge sand with my hand
held sander. In fact I edge sanded 29 white oak kitchen cabinet doors
on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Going back about 6 months I learned that, wait for it, wait, wait,
Festool has come out with an edge sanding attachment for their newest
ROS 125 sander.

Woah.... Smaller than a stationary edge sander, and, well that is about
it. Not available in the U.S. until some time in October. And yet I
did not see the attachment become relatively available until a week or
so ago. So I started searching to buy this attachment. Amazon,
Woodcraft, all the normal stockers of Festool had it in stock. Price
$99. What??? What is the catch? The catch is that it only fits one of
two brand new Festool Sanders. OK so which ones. Ah, the new corded
one and the battery operated one.
The corded one is $205. The ETS 125 REQ-Plus.

Soooo a corded Festool 5" ROS and edge guide for $304.00??? Yup that
is it.

So I proceed to buy both items and come to a scree4ching halt. No one
has the sander in stock and the earliest expected delivery date is late
May. ;~(

I searched on line for 3 days and no luck untillllll, I finished edge
sanding 29 cabinet doors. and the next morning I decided to check
a local hard wood dealer in the down town Houston area. I thought maybe
they will have the sander and if they do I can buy the attachment
anywhere. So call, Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way. Oh! One more thing
Steve, do you have the edge sander attachment? YES! he says, and I'm
already out the door.

So Steve works for a hardwood dealer that is not known to be the least
expensive supplier in town but they have been around forever, well they
looked old 40 years ago and Steve was there 40 years ago too. He seemed
much younger then. So On the way to the lumber yard I was thinking.
Thank goodness for Festool pricing policy, every one sells for the same
price. And indeed Steve sold me the combination of tools for exactly
what every one was selling the tools for. Whew!

So I am back home and begin attaching the attachment to the sander and
calibrating the 90 degree setting and all is well. I actually remove
the sander from the attachment via 2 5mm hex head bolts, and then
reattach. I wanted to see if the calibration remained accurate, Yes!

Then on to testing. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Shockingly easy, fast, great results!!!

Soooo this pic is of a scrap piece of 3/4" white oak plywood. It's hat
you would expect the factory edge to look like.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...in/dateposted/

Then about 5 seconds of sanding with the new edge sander with 180 grit
paper.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And is the edge still square? YES!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And best of all, that edge is as smooth as glass with sharp corners.

If you ever considered a Festool sander, this one is relatively
inexpensive, $205.00 and includes the new reusable style dust collector
bag, and Systainer. And for $99.00 more you have a very very good edge
sander.

Nice find - after all these years.

I have but one suggestion: You need to get your camera calibrated. The color
of your square doesn't show even a hint of green. ;-)

On 3/5/2021 2:28 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 11:56:18 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
So, I have built hundreds of cabinet doors. AND edge sanding is a RPIA.
It is time consuming and relatively inaccurate at best.


So 10 or so years ago I decided a stationary edge sander might be the
solution. And then I reconsidered, given the price and all. So up
until the day before yesterday I continued to edge sand with my hand
held sander. In fact I edge sanded 29 white oak kitchen cabinet doors
on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Going back about 6 months I learned that, wait for it, wait, wait,
Festool has come out with an edge sanding attachment for their newest
ROS 125 sander.

Woah.... Smaller than a stationary edge sander, and, well that is about
it. Not available in the U.S. until some time in October. And yet I
did not see the attachment become relatively available until a week or
so ago. So I started searching to buy this attachment. Amazon,
Woodcraft, all the normal stockers of Festool had it in stock. Price
$99. What??? What is the catch? The catch is that it only fits one of
two brand new Festool Sanders. OK so which ones. Ah, the new corded
one and the battery operated one.
The corded one is $205. The ETS 125 REQ-Plus.

Soooo a corded Festool 5" ROS and edge guide for $304.00??? Yup that
is it.

So I proceed to buy both items and come to a scree4ching halt. No one
has the sander in stock and the earliest expected delivery date is late
May. ;~(

I searched on line for 3 days and no luck untillllll, I finished edge
sanding 29 cabinet doors. and the next morning I decided to check
a local hard wood dealer in the down town Houston area. I thought maybe
they will have the sander and if they do I can buy the attachment
anywhere. So call, Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way. Oh! One more thing
Steve, do you have the edge sander attachment? YES! he says, and I'm
already out the door.

So Steve works for a hardwood dealer that is not known to be the least
expensive supplier in town but they have been around forever, well they
looked old 40 years ago and Steve was there 40 years ago too. He seemed
much younger then. So On the way to the lumber yard I was thinking.
Thank goodness for Festool pricing policy, every one sells for the same
price. And indeed Steve sold me the combination of tools for exactly
what every one was selling the tools for. Whew!

So I am back home and begin attaching the attachment to the sander and
calibrating the 90 degree setting and all is well. I actually remove
the sander from the attachment via 2 5mm hex head bolts, and then
reattach. I wanted to see if the calibration remained accurate, Yes!

Then on to testing. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Shockingly easy, fast, great results!!!

Soooo this pic is of a scrap piece of 3/4" white oak plywood. It's hat
you would expect the factory edge to look like.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...in/dateposted/

Then about 5 seconds of sanding with the new edge sander with 180 grit
paper.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And is the edge still square? YES!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And best of all, that edge is as smooth as glass with sharp corners.

If you ever considered a Festool sander, this one is relatively
inexpensive, $205.00 and includes the new reusable style dust collector
bag, and Systainer. And for $99.00 more you have a very very good edge
sander.

Nice find - after all these years.

I have but one suggestion: You need to get your camera calibrated. The color
of your square doesn't show even a hint of green. ;-)

Sometimes,,, I buy other brands.

On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 10:56:09 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

So, I have built hundreds of cabinet doors. AND edge sanding is a RPIA.
It is time consuming and relatively inaccurate at best.


So 10 or so years ago I decided a stationary edge sander might be the
solution. And then I reconsidered, given the price and all. So up
until the day before yesterday I continued to edge sand with my hand
held sander. In fact I edge sanded 29 white oak kitchen cabinet doors
on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Going back about 6 months I learned that, wait for it, wait, wait,
Festool has come out with an edge sanding attachment for their newest
ROS 125 sander.

Highland said they had it several months ago but, of course, they're
closed for the 'rona holiday and I wanted to see it before buying.
Still waiting...

Woah.... Smaller than a stationary edge sander, and, well that is about
it. Not available in the U.S. until some time in October. And yet I
did not see the attachment become relatively available until a week or
so ago. So I started searching to buy this attachment. Amazon,
Woodcraft, all the normal stockers of Festool had it in stock. Price
$99. What??? What is the catch? The catch is that it only fits one of
two brand new Festool Sanders. OK so which ones. Ah, the new corded
one and the battery operated one.
The corded one is $205. The ETS 125 REQ-Plus.

It also fits the "Pro 5 LTD". You don't have one?

Soooo a corded Festool 5" ROS and edge guide for $304.00??? Yup that
is it.

So I proceed to buy both items and come to a scree4ching halt. No one
has the sander in stock and the earliest expected delivery date is late
May. ;~(

I understand that there is a huge backorder on almost all power tools.

I searched on line for 3 days and no luck untillllll, I finished edge
sanding 29 cabinet doors. and the next morning I decided to check
a local hard wood dealer in the down town Houston area. I thought maybe
they will have the sander and if they do I can buy the attachment
anywhere. So call, Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way. Oh! One more thing
Steve, do you have the edge sander attachment? YES! he says, and I'm
already out the door.

So Steve works for a hardwood dealer that is not known to be the least
expensive supplier in town but they have been around forever, well they
looked old 40 years ago and Steve was there 40 years ago too. He seemed
much younger then. So On the way to the lumber yard I was thinking.
Thank goodness for Festool pricing policy, every one sells for the same
price. And indeed Steve sold me the combination of tools for exactly
what every one was selling the tools for. Whew!

At Festool prices, dealers don't HAVE to gouge customers.

So I am back home and begin attaching the attachment to the sander and
calibrating the 90 degree setting and all is well. I actually remove
the sander from the attachment via 2 5mm hex head bolts, and then
reattach. I wanted to see if the calibration remained accurate, Yes!

Then on to testing. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Shockingly easy, fast, great results!!!

Soooo this pic is of a scrap piece of 3/4" white oak plywood. It's hat
you would expect the factory edge to look like.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...in/dateposted/

That Jet still has its shipping plastic on it!

Then about 5 seconds of sanding with the new edge sander with 180 grit
paper.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And is the edge still square? YES!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And best of all, that edge is as smooth as glass with sharp corners.

If you ever considered a Festool sander, this one is relatively
inexpensive, $205.00 and includes the new reusable style dust collector
bag, and Systainer. And for $99.00 more you have a very very good edge
sander.

....as soon as I see one. I had to convince the local Woodcraft that
they even existed in someone's imagination.

On 3/5/2021 4:56 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 10:56:09 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

So, I have built hundreds of cabinet doors. AND edge sanding is a RPIA.
It is time consuming and relatively inaccurate at best.


So 10 or so years ago I decided a stationary edge sander might be the
solution. And then I reconsidered, given the price and all. So up
until the day before yesterday I continued to edge sand with my hand
held sander. In fact I edge sanded 29 white oak kitchen cabinet doors
on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Going back about 6 months I learned that, wait for it, wait, wait,
Festool has come out with an edge sanding attachment for their newest
ROS 125 sander.

Highland said they had it several months ago but, of course, they're
closed for the 'rona holiday and I wanted to see it before buying.
Still waiting...

The attachment? Order it from Amazon. Remember you have a return
policy with Festool.



Woah.... Smaller than a stationary edge sander, and, well that is about
it. Not available in the U.S. until some time in October. And yet I
did not see the attachment become relatively available until a week or
so ago. So I started searching to buy this attachment. Amazon,
Woodcraft, all the normal stockers of Festool had it in stock. Price
$99. What??? What is the catch? The catch is that it only fits one of
two brand new Festool Sanders. OK so which ones. Ah, the new corded
one and the battery operated one.
The corded one is $205. The ETS 125 REQ-Plus.

It also fits the "Pro 5 LTD". You don't have one?

Wow! It looks like it would actually work. I think the main difference
is that the later version may have a 250 watt motor and includes the new
style dust bag. That think works pretty well and reduces the bulk of
the hose for this particular use.

No I don't have that one, I have the larger ETS EC 125/3. It is more
robust and slightly heavier.




Soooo a corded Festool 5" ROS and edge guide for $304.00??? Yup that
is it.

So I proceed to buy both items and come to a scree4ching halt. No one
has the sander in stock and the earliest expected delivery date is late
May. ;~(

I understand that there is a huge backorder on almost all power tools.

I have been seeing this on most all brands. And a reason that I chose a
Jet over a Hammer machine 3 months ago.



I searched on line for 3 days and no luck untillllll, I finished edge
sanding 29 cabinet doors. and the next morning I decided to check
a local hard wood dealer in the down town Houston area. I thought maybe
they will have the sander and if they do I can buy the attachment
anywhere. So call, Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way. Oh! One more thing
Steve, do you have the edge sander attachment? YES! he says, and I'm
already out the door.

So Steve works for a hardwood dealer that is not known to be the least
expensive supplier in town but they have been around forever, well they
looked old 40 years ago and Steve was there 40 years ago too. He seemed
much younger then. So On the way to the lumber yard I was thinking.
Thank goodness for Festool pricing policy, every one sells for the same
price. And indeed Steve sold me the combination of tools for exactly
what every one was selling the tools for. Whew!

At Festool prices, dealers don't HAVE to gouge customers.

Exactly, they all make a reasonable profit. Dealers have to sell
service to have an advantage. Although I have seen some pretty inflated
prices on some Festool Items on Amazon. I saw a MFT table being offered
for over $1K. It normally sells for under $800 IIRC. Probably not a
dealer and someone buying up extras to sell to the desperate.



So I am back home and begin attaching the attachment to the sander and
calibrating the 90 degree setting and all is well. I actually remove
the sander from the attachment via 2 5mm hex head bolts, and then
reattach. I wanted to see if the calibration remained accurate, Yes!

Then on to testing. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Shockingly easy, fast, great results!!!

Soooo this pic is of a scrap piece of 3/4" white oak plywood. It's hat
you would expect the factory edge to look like.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...in/dateposted/

That Jet still has its shipping plastic on it!

LOL That was in January.


Then about 5 seconds of sanding with the new edge sander with 180 grit
paper.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And is the edge still square? YES!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And best of all, that edge is as smooth as glass with sharp corners.

If you ever considered a Festool sander, this one is relatively
inexpensive, $205.00 and includes the new reusable style dust collector
bag, and Systainer. And for $99.00 more you have a very very good edge
sander.

...as soon as I see one. I had to convince the local Woodcraft that
they even existed in someone's imagination.


If you do any amount of edge sanding at all and you see one, or get one,
you will not want to return it.
It looks a bit too simple to be effective but it really does a good job
with little effort to keep it sanding squarely.
And because it does sand squarely, motorized sanding is much faster as
it is cutting the whole surface all at once.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:31:46 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 3/5/2021 4:56 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 10:56:09 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

So, I have built hundreds of cabinet doors. AND edge sanding is a RPIA.
It is time consuming and relatively inaccurate at best.


So 10 or so years ago I decided a stationary edge sander might be the
solution. And then I reconsidered, given the price and all. So up
until the day before yesterday I continued to edge sand with my hand
held sander. In fact I edge sanded 29 white oak kitchen cabinet doors
on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Going back about 6 months I learned that, wait for it, wait, wait,
Festool has come out with an edge sanding attachment for their newest
ROS 125 sander.

Highland said they had it several months ago but, of course, they're
closed for the 'rona holiday and I wanted to see it before buying.
Still waiting...

The attachment? Order it from Amazon. Remember you have a return
policy with Festool.

Trying not to deal with Amazon anymore. Not sure how Festool returns
work otherwise.


Woah.... Smaller than a stationary edge sander, and, well that is about
it. Not available in the U.S. until some time in October. And yet I
did not see the attachment become relatively available until a week or
so ago. So I started searching to buy this attachment. Amazon,
Woodcraft, all the normal stockers of Festool had it in stock. Price
$99. What??? What is the catch? The catch is that it only fits one of
two brand new Festool Sanders. OK so which ones. Ah, the new corded
one and the battery operated one.
The corded one is $205. The ETS 125 REQ-Plus.

It also fits the "Pro 5 LTD". You don't have one?

Wow! It looks like it would actually work. I think the main difference
is that the later version may have a 250 watt motor and includes the new
style dust bag. That think works pretty well and reduces the bulk of
the hose for this particular use.

No I don't have that one, I have the larger ETS EC 125/3. It is more
robust and slightly heavier.

But it don't work. I have an ETS-125 RE but it only fits the ETS-25
REQ. I do have the Pro 5 (for $50 WITH a systainer it was silly to
pass on it).



Soooo a corded Festool 5" ROS and edge guide for $304.00??? Yup that
is it.

So I proceed to buy both items and come to a scree4ching halt. No one
has the sander in stock and the earliest expected delivery date is late
May. ;~(

I understand that there is a huge backorder on almost all power tools.

I have been seeing this on most all brands. And a reason that I chose a
Jet over a Hammer machine 3 months ago.

I want to see the new Laguna jointer. I liked the old 8" but they're
promising great things with the new one. When? I'm also looking at
the Jet. I don't see the extra $500 for the ugly Powermatic.


I searched on line for 3 days and no luck untillllll, I finished edge
sanding 29 cabinet doors. and the next morning I decided to check
a local hard wood dealer in the down town Houston area. I thought maybe
they will have the sander and if they do I can buy the attachment
anywhere. So call, Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way. Oh! One more thing
Steve, do you have the edge sander attachment? YES! he says, and I'm
already out the door.

So Steve works for a hardwood dealer that is not known to be the least
expensive supplier in town but they have been around forever, well they
looked old 40 years ago and Steve was there 40 years ago too. He seemed
much younger then. So On the way to the lumber yard I was thinking.
Thank goodness for Festool pricing policy, every one sells for the same
price. And indeed Steve sold me the combination of tools for exactly
what every one was selling the tools for. Whew!

At Festool prices, dealers don't HAVE to gouge customers.

Exactly, they all make a reasonable profit. Dealers have to sell
service to have an advantage. Although I have seen some pretty inflated
prices on some Festool Items on Amazon. I saw a MFT table being offered
for over $1K. It normally sells for under $800 IIRC. Probably not a
dealer and someone buying up extras to sell to the desperate.

Sure. If it were a dealer I think they'd lose their franchise pretty
quickly.

So I am back home and begin attaching the attachment to the sander and
calibrating the 90 degree setting and all is well. I actually remove
the sander from the attachment via 2 5mm hex head bolts, and then
reattach. I wanted to see if the calibration remained accurate, Yes!

Then on to testing. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Shockingly easy, fast, great results!!!

Soooo this pic is of a scrap piece of 3/4" white oak plywood. It's hat
you would expect the factory edge to look like.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...in/dateposted/

That Jet still has its shipping plastic on it!

LOL That was in January.


Then about 5 seconds of sanding with the new edge sander with 180 grit
paper.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And is the edge still square? YES!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And best of all, that edge is as smooth as glass with sharp corners.

If you ever considered a Festool sander, this one is relatively
inexpensive, $205.00 and includes the new reusable style dust collector
bag, and Systainer. And for $99.00 more you have a very very good edge
sander.

...as soon as I see one. I had to convince the local Woodcraft that
they even existed in someone's imagination.


If you do any amount of edge sanding at all and you see one, or get one,
you will not want to return it.
It looks a bit too simple to be effective but it really does a good job
with little effort to keep it sanding squarely.
And because it does sand squarely, motorized sanding is much faster as
it is cutting the whole surface all at once.

The concept is so simple it has to work but I'm a show me. I really
like the Festool sanders. They're the only ones I've had that don't
shred paper and aren't just an all around PITA to use. Dust
collection is just the icing.

On 3/6/2021 11:33 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:31:46 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 3/5/2021 4:56 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 10:56:09 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

So, I have built hundreds of cabinet doors. AND edge sanding is a RPIA.
It is time consuming and relatively inaccurate at best.


So 10 or so years ago I decided a stationary edge sander might be the
solution. And then I reconsidered, given the price and all. So up
until the day before yesterday I continued to edge sand with my hand
held sander. In fact I edge sanded 29 white oak kitchen cabinet doors
on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Going back about 6 months I learned that, wait for it, wait, wait,
Festool has come out with an edge sanding attachment for their newest
ROS 125 sander.

Highland said they had it several months ago but, of course, they're
closed for the 'rona holiday and I wanted to see it before buying.
Still waiting...

The attachment? Order it from Amazon. Remember you have a return
policy with Festool.

Trying not to deal with Amazon anymore. Not sure how Festool returns
work otherwise.


Woah.... Smaller than a stationary edge sander, and, well that is about
it. Not available in the U.S. until some time in October. And yet I
did not see the attachment become relatively available until a week or
so ago. So I started searching to buy this attachment. Amazon,
Woodcraft, all the normal stockers of Festool had it in stock. Price
$99. What??? What is the catch? The catch is that it only fits one of
two brand new Festool Sanders. OK so which ones. Ah, the new corded
one and the battery operated one.
The corded one is $205. The ETS 125 REQ-Plus.

It also fits the "Pro 5 LTD". You don't have one?

Wow! It looks like it would actually work. I think the main difference
is that the later version may have a 250 watt motor and includes the new
style dust bag. That think works pretty well and reduces the bulk of
the hose for this particular use.

No I don't have that one, I have the larger ETS EC 125/3. It is more
robust and slightly heavier.

But it don't work. I have an ETS-125 RE but it only fits the ETS-25
REQ. I do have the Pro 5 (for $50 WITH a systainer it was silly to
pass on it).



Soooo a corded Festool 5" ROS and edge guide for $304.00??? Yup that
is it.

So I proceed to buy both items and come to a scree4ching halt. No one
has the sander in stock and the earliest expected delivery date is late
May. ;~(

I understand that there is a huge backorder on almost all power tools.

I have been seeing this on most all brands. And a reason that I chose a
Jet over a Hammer machine 3 months ago.

I want to see the new Laguna jointer. I liked the old 8" but they're
promising great things with the new one. When? I'm also looking at
the Jet. I don't see the extra $500 for the ugly Powermatic.

Jointer stand alone or combo? As I have changed focus on what i am
building I now have more of a need for a jointer than a planer. So now
I have a 12" and 15" planer. HA!

I will likely get rid of the 15" one now as I was hoping to save room
with the Jet Combo... So to find a home for the new combo I moved a few
things around in the shop and, wow, I have a lot of great room now. ;~)

I agree with you on Powermatic. Since Jet and Powermatic combine/share
a lot of their machines, not all, these days color is about the only
difference, besides cost.



I searched on line for 3 days and no luck untillllll, I finished edge
sanding 29 cabinet doors. and the next morning I decided to check
a local hard wood dealer in the down town Houston area. I thought maybe
they will have the sander and if they do I can buy the attachment
anywhere. So call, Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way. Oh! One more thing
Steve, do you have the edge sander attachment? YES! he says, and I'm
already out the door.

So Steve works for a hardwood dealer that is not known to be the least
expensive supplier in town but they have been around forever, well they
looked old 40 years ago and Steve was there 40 years ago too. He seemed
much younger then. So On the way to the lumber yard I was thinking.
Thank goodness for Festool pricing policy, every one sells for the same
price. And indeed Steve sold me the combination of tools for exactly
what every one was selling the tools for. Whew!

At Festool prices, dealers don't HAVE to gouge customers.

Exactly, they all make a reasonable profit. Dealers have to sell
service to have an advantage. Although I have seen some pretty inflated
prices on some Festool Items on Amazon. I saw a MFT table being offered
for over $1K. It normally sells for under $800 IIRC. Probably not a
dealer and someone buying up extras to sell to the desperate.

Sure. If it were a dealer I think they'd lose their franchise pretty
quickly.

Speaking of which...... Rockler 10 years ago had Festool.... Then they
did not, up until very recently. I had heard rumors about discounting
the pricing.



So I am back home and begin attaching the attachment to the sander and
calibrating the 90 degree setting and all is well. I actually remove
the sander from the attachment via 2 5mm hex head bolts, and then
reattach. I wanted to see if the calibration remained accurate, Yes!

Then on to testing. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Shockingly easy, fast, great results!!!

Soooo this pic is of a scrap piece of 3/4" white oak plywood. It's hat
you would expect the factory edge to look like.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...in/dateposted/

That Jet still has its shipping plastic on it!

LOL That was in January.


Then about 5 seconds of sanding with the new edge sander with 180 grit
paper.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And is the edge still square? YES!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And best of all, that edge is as smooth as glass with sharp corners.

If you ever considered a Festool sander, this one is relatively
inexpensive, $205.00 and includes the new reusable style dust collector
bag, and Systainer. And for $99.00 more you have a very very good edge
sander.

...as soon as I see one. I had to convince the local Woodcraft that
they even existed in someone's imagination.


If you do any amount of edge sanding at all and you see one, or get one,
you will not want to return it.
It looks a bit too simple to be effective but it really does a good job
with little effort to keep it sanding squarely.
And because it does sand squarely, motorized sanding is much faster as
it is cutting the whole surface all at once.

The concept is so simple it has to work but I'm a show me. I really
like the Festool sanders. They're the only ones I've had that don't
shred paper and aren't just an all around PITA to use. Dust
collection is just the icing.


Yes, their sanders are great. My first was the 125 Rotex. Dust
collection was so good that I soon after retired my old PC SpeedBloc and
got the 400 series Festool with the rectangle pad. Then about 5 years
ago the, new then, 125 with the pad brake, and brushless motor. I
really like how fast the pad stops spinning when you turn the motor off.
And now the edge sander one.
I wish Festool would come up with a model number that is easier to
remember.. ;~)

On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:33:57 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
I agree with you on Powermatic. Since Jet and Powermatic combine/share
a lot of their machines, not all, these days color is about the only
difference, besides cost.

There are differences in the details. An 8" 2 HP Jet Jointer and 8" 2 HP powermatic jointer appear to be identical except for the paint. Both are helical head machines. But when you dive into the details, the Jet has 36 cutter blades and the powermatic has 54 blades.

Bob

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 10:56:18 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way.

....and then there were none. After you told me the long sad story of all your days of searches, I called and bought the one remaining sander at Clarke's Hardwood. I ordered the edge guide from Harteville Tools.

Bob

On 3/5/2021 8:56 PM, Bob D wrote:
On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 10:56:18 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way.

...and then there were none. After you told me the long sad story of all your days of searches, I called and bought the one remaining sander at Clarke's Hardwood. I ordered the edge guide from Harteville Tools.

Bob


I thought of you BOB when Steve said he had one more. LOL

Have you ever been to Hartville HArdware???
MY DIL's parents live about 3~5 miles from that store. INCREDIBLE!!!

Obviously a long drive to Ohio but wow it is almost a destination by it
self.

The store is similar in size as HD or Lowes but multi stories. And
every department is HUGE.

The tool department is incredible, the first place I put hands on a
Shaper Origin in 2019.
And they have depth on most every tool brand that you would consider buying.

And I just found out, when looking for the sander that Hartville ships
for free with no minimum quantity or value of sale.

On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:38:57 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 3/5/2021 8:56 PM, Bob D wrote:
On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 10:56:18 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way.

...and then there were none. After you told me the long sad story of all your days of searches, I called and bought the one remaining sander at Clarke's Hardwood. I ordered the edge guide from Harteville Tools.

Bob


I thought of you BOB when Steve said he had one more. LOL

Have you ever been to Hartville HArdware???
MY DIL's parents live about 3~5 miles from that store. INCREDIBLE!!!

Obviously a long drive to Ohio but wow it is almost a destination by it
self.

The store is similar in size as HD or Lowes but multi stories. And
every department is HUGE.

The tool department is incredible, the first place I put hands on a
Shaper Origin in 2019.

I saw one in Highland before that, I think. At the time I said
"that's cool but *$2500* cool???". The demo on Youtube of the floor
inlays changed my mind but it's still a lot of money. That's why I
was interested in your inlays. I wanted to know how hard it really
was. Professionals can make really difficult things look easy. I'd
never think of inlaying a $10,000 floor with templates and a router.

And they have depth on most every tool brand that you would consider buying.

And I just found out, when looking for the sander that Hartville ships
for free with no minimum quantity or value of sale.

Nice. I can't remember what it was that I ordered recently that was
fulfilled by , with catalog included in the packing material.

On 3/6/2021 11:40 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 09:38:57 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 3/5/2021 8:56 PM, Bob D wrote:
On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 10:56:18 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way.

...and then there were none. After you told me the long sad story of all your days of searches, I called and bought the one remaining sander at Clarke's Hardwood. I ordered the edge guide from Harteville Tools.

Bob


I thought of you BOB when Steve said he had one more. LOL

Have you ever been to Hartville HArdware???
MY DIL's parents live about 3~5 miles from that store. INCREDIBLE!!!

Obviously a long drive to Ohio but wow it is almost a destination by it
self.

The store is similar in size as HD or Lowes but multi stories. And
every department is HUGE.

The tool department is incredible, the first place I put hands on a
Shaper Origin in 2019.

I saw one in Highland before that, I think. At the time I said
"that's cool but *$2500* cool???". The demo on Youtube of the floor
inlays changed my mind but it's still a lot of money. That's why I
was interested in your inlays. I wanted to know how hard it really
was. Professionals can make really difficult things look easy. I'd
never think of inlaying a $10,000 floor with templates and a router.

To tell you the truth I was interested, but not enough to consider it
over a regular CNC. BUT then they came out with the WorkStation and
that I all it took.
So I have absolutely no back ground in this computerized CNC stuff.

The small boxes that I built, 14 of them IIRC, in December, were a first
for me at using the "built in 'box joint" feature and inlaying.
Shockingly easier doing box joints on this than my iBOX from Incra and
my Leigh Jig with the Finger Joint template.

The YouTube videos really reduce the learning curve, especially the ones
that Sam, with Shaper produces.

There was no experimenting on those boxes with the inlay. I used no
computer for setting up the inlays or the box joints. I only used
Sketchup to design the boxes minus the inlays.
AAMOF I was going to experiment with the box joints on some poplar
scraps. They came out so well that I actually used them too.

The Texas that I inlayed is from a SVG file of the U.S. This came with
the Origin to play around with. The fact that you can scale your
drawing on the Origin is a big plus in simplification. And it overlays
the drawing that you will be cutting on top of the actual picture of the
piece of wood that you will be working with. So placement and scale is
handled while you are looking at the built in screen. And you can
establish the XY axis for exact placement of the cuts, on the screen too.




And they have depth on most every tool brand that you would consider buying.

And I just found out, when looking for the sander that Hartville ships
for free with no minimum quantity or value of sale.

Nice. I can't remember what it was that I ordered recently that was
fulfilled by , with catalog included in the packing material.


I could probably spend a whole weekend in that store.

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 11:56:18 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
So, I have built hundreds of cabinet doors. AND edge sanding is a RPIA.
It is time consuming and relatively inaccurate at best.


So 10 or so years ago I decided a stationary edge sander might be the
solution. And then I reconsidered, given the price and all. So up
until the day before yesterday I continued to edge sand with my hand
held sander. In fact I edge sanded 29 white oak kitchen cabinet doors
on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Going back about 6 months I learned that, wait for it, wait, wait,
Festool has come out with an edge sanding attachment for their newest
ROS 125 sander.

Woah.... Smaller than a stationary edge sander, and, well that is about
it. Not available in the U.S. until some time in October. And yet I
did not see the attachment become relatively available until a week or
so ago. So I started searching to buy this attachment. Amazon,
Woodcraft, all the normal stockers of Festool had it in stock. Price
$99. What??? What is the catch? The catch is that it only fits one of
two brand new Festool Sanders. OK so which ones. Ah, the new corded
one and the battery operated one.
The corded one is $205. The ETS 125 REQ-Plus.

Soooo a corded Festool 5" ROS and edge guide for $304.00??? Yup that
is it.

So I proceed to buy both items and come to a scree4ching halt. No one
has the sander in stock and the earliest expected delivery date is late
May. ;~(

I searched on line for 3 days and no luck untillllll, I finished edge
sanding 29 cabinet doors. and the next morning I decided to check
a local hard wood dealer in the down town Houston area. I thought maybe
they will have the sander and if they do I can buy the attachment
anywhere. So call, Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way. Oh! One more thing
Steve, do you have the edge sander attachment? YES! he says, and I'm
already out the door.

So Steve works for a hardwood dealer that is not known to be the least
expensive supplier in town but they have been around forever, well they
looked old 40 years ago and Steve was there 40 years ago too. He seemed
much younger then. So On the way to the lumber yard I was thinking.
Thank goodness for Festool pricing policy, every one sells for the same
price. And indeed Steve sold me the combination of tools for exactly
what every one was selling the tools for. Whew!

So I am back home and begin attaching the attachment to the sander and
calibrating the 90 degree setting and all is well. I actually remove
the sander from the attachment via 2 5mm hex head bolts, and then
reattach. I wanted to see if the calibration remained accurate, Yes!

Then on to testing. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Shockingly easy, fast, great results!!!

Soooo this pic is of a scrap piece of 3/4" white oak plywood. It's hat
you would expect the factory edge to look like.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...in/dateposted/

Then about 5 seconds of sanding with the new edge sander with 180 grit
paper.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And is the edge still square? YES!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And best of all, that edge is as smooth as glass with sharp corners.

If you ever considered a Festool sander, this one is relatively
inexpensive, $205.00 and includes the new reusable style dust collector
bag, and Systainer. And for $99.00 more you have a very very good edge
sander.

I was thinking about this device while I was edge sanding the 1-by flat trim
that I'm putting in my bathroom.

Do you think the Big Green F will offer an attachment for the edge sander so
that it not only sands the edge square but also eases the sharp edge just a
little. ;-)

On 3/6/2021 6:14 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 11:56:18 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
So, I have built hundreds of cabinet doors. AND edge sanding is a RPIA.
It is time consuming and relatively inaccurate at best.


So 10 or so years ago I decided a stationary edge sander might be the
solution. And then I reconsidered, given the price and all. So up
until the day before yesterday I continued to edge sand with my hand
held sander. In fact I edge sanded 29 white oak kitchen cabinet doors
on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Going back about 6 months I learned that, wait for it, wait, wait,
Festool has come out with an edge sanding attachment for their newest
ROS 125 sander.

Woah.... Smaller than a stationary edge sander, and, well that is about
it. Not available in the U.S. until some time in October. And yet I
did not see the attachment become relatively available until a week or
so ago. So I started searching to buy this attachment. Amazon,
Woodcraft, all the normal stockers of Festool had it in stock. Price
$99. What??? What is the catch? The catch is that it only fits one of
two brand new Festool Sanders. OK so which ones. Ah, the new corded
one and the battery operated one.
The corded one is $205. The ETS 125 REQ-Plus.

Soooo a corded Festool 5" ROS and edge guide for $304.00??? Yup that
is it.

So I proceed to buy both items and come to a scree4ching halt. No one
has the sander in stock and the earliest expected delivery date is late
May. ;~(

I searched on line for 3 days and no luck untillllll, I finished edge
sanding 29 cabinet doors. and the next morning I decided to check
a local hard wood dealer in the down town Houston area. I thought maybe
they will have the sander and if they do I can buy the attachment
anywhere. So call, Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way. Oh! One more thing
Steve, do you have the edge sander attachment? YES! he says, and I'm
already out the door.

So Steve works for a hardwood dealer that is not known to be the least
expensive supplier in town but they have been around forever, well they
looked old 40 years ago and Steve was there 40 years ago too. He seemed
much younger then. So On the way to the lumber yard I was thinking.
Thank goodness for Festool pricing policy, every one sells for the same
price. And indeed Steve sold me the combination of tools for exactly
what every one was selling the tools for. Whew!

So I am back home and begin attaching the attachment to the sander and
calibrating the 90 degree setting and all is well. I actually remove
the sander from the attachment via 2 5mm hex head bolts, and then
reattach. I wanted to see if the calibration remained accurate, Yes!

Then on to testing. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Shockingly easy, fast, great results!!!

Soooo this pic is of a scrap piece of 3/4" white oak plywood. It's hat
you would expect the factory edge to look like.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...in/dateposted/

Then about 5 seconds of sanding with the new edge sander with 180 grit
paper.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And is the edge still square? YES!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And best of all, that edge is as smooth as glass with sharp corners.

If you ever considered a Festool sander, this one is relatively
inexpensive, $205.00 and includes the new reusable style dust collector
bag, and Systainer. And for $99.00 more you have a very very good edge
sander.

I was thinking about this device while I was edge sanding the 1-by flat trim
that I'm putting in my bathroom.

So what ever you are sanding, it needs to have a bit of depth, meaning a
larg enough surface for the pad on the attachment to register against
and ride on.

BUT The attachment has a hard and soft setting. The hard setting holds
the angle setting rigidly. Then there is a soft setting that allows the
sander to flex a bit with the contour of the surface. I am not totally
what application that would be good for but might asst with easing the
edges. MAYBE!!!

Easing the edge is really not a big deal, I could do that all day by
hand or with a finish sander. A couple of passes full length with a
finish sander or the same with a piece of 180 wrapped around a sanding
block does it for me.




Do you think the Big Green F will offer an attachment for the edge sander so
that it not only sands the edge square but also eases the sharp edge just a
little. ;-)

Easing the edge is really not a big deal, I could do that all day by
hand or with a finish sander. A couple of passes full length with a
finish sander or the same with a piece of 180 wrapped around a sanding
block does it for me.

I think anything more would probably complicate that task.

On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 11:08:58 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 3/6/2021 6:14 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 11:56:18 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
So, I have built hundreds of cabinet doors. AND edge sanding is a RPIA.
It is time consuming and relatively inaccurate at best.


So 10 or so years ago I decided a stationary edge sander might be the
solution. And then I reconsidered, given the price and all. So up
until the day before yesterday I continued to edge sand with my hand
held sander. In fact I edge sanded 29 white oak kitchen cabinet doors
on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Going back about 6 months I learned that, wait for it, wait, wait,
Festool has come out with an edge sanding attachment for their newest
ROS 125 sander.

Woah.... Smaller than a stationary edge sander, and, well that is about
it. Not available in the U.S. until some time in October. And yet I
did not see the attachment become relatively available until a week or
so ago. So I started searching to buy this attachment. Amazon,
Woodcraft, all the normal stockers of Festool had it in stock. Price
$99. What??? What is the catch? The catch is that it only fits one of
two brand new Festool Sanders. OK so which ones. Ah, the new corded
one and the battery operated one.
The corded one is $205. The ETS 125 REQ-Plus.

Soooo a corded Festool 5" ROS and edge guide for $304.00??? Yup that
is it.

So I proceed to buy both items and come to a scree4ching halt. No one
has the sander in stock and the earliest expected delivery date is late
May. ;~(

I searched on line for 3 days and no luck untillllll, I finished edge
sanding 29 cabinet doors. and the next morning I decided to check
a local hard wood dealer in the down town Houston area. I thought maybe
they will have the sander and if they do I can buy the attachment
anywhere. So call, Yes, Steve says that they have 2 of that particular
sander in stock and I tell him I am on my way. Oh! One more thing
Steve, do you have the edge sander attachment? YES! he says, and I'm
already out the door.

So Steve works for a hardwood dealer that is not known to be the least
expensive supplier in town but they have been around forever, well they
looked old 40 years ago and Steve was there 40 years ago too. He seemed
much younger then. So On the way to the lumber yard I was thinking.
Thank goodness for Festool pricing policy, every one sells for the same
price. And indeed Steve sold me the combination of tools for exactly
what every one was selling the tools for. Whew!

So I am back home and begin attaching the attachment to the sander and
calibrating the 90 degree setting and all is well. I actually remove
the sander from the attachment via 2 5mm hex head bolts, and then
reattach. I wanted to see if the calibration remained accurate, Yes!

Then on to testing. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
Shockingly easy, fast, great results!!!

Soooo this pic is of a scrap piece of 3/4" white oak plywood. It's hat
you would expect the factory edge to look like.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...in/dateposted/

Then about 5 seconds of sanding with the new edge sander with 180 grit
paper.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And is the edge still square? YES!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...n/photostream/

And best of all, that edge is as smooth as glass with sharp corners.

If you ever considered a Festool sander, this one is relatively
inexpensive, $205.00 and includes the new reusable style dust collector
bag, and Systainer. And for $99.00 more you have a very very good edge
sander.

I was thinking about this device while I was edge sanding the 1-by flat trim
that I'm putting in my bathroom.
So what ever you are sanding, it needs to have a bit of depth, meaning a
larg enough surface for the pad on the attachment to register against
and ride on.

BUT The attachment has a hard and soft setting. The hard setting holds
the angle setting rigidly. Then there is a soft setting that allows the
sander to flex a bit with the contour of the surface. I am not totally
what application that would be good for but might asst with easing the
edges. MAYBE!!!

Easing the edge is really not a big deal, I could do that all day by
hand or with a finish sander. A couple of passes full length with a
finish sander or the same with a piece of 180 wrapped around a sanding
block does it for me.

Do you think the Big Green F will offer an attachment for the edge sander so
that it not only sands the edge square but also eases the sharp edge just a
little. ;-)
Easing the edge is really not a big deal, I could do that all day by
hand or with a finish sander. A couple of passes full length with a
finish sander or the same with a piece of 180 wrapped around a sanding
block does it for me.

I think anything more would probably complicate that task.

Well, there was a wink after my comment. ;-)