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a common topic repeated elsewhere
Hi fellas,
I am "in" the rec.guns NG and a new topic has emerged, one we all know. To wit: the poor quality of new stuff, fresh from the manufacturer or whoever makes it for the manufacturer (which helps absolve the manufacturer from having to do repairs on shoddy stuff) .. I think we have more of that problem in woodworking, but it exists in other universes too :-) James |
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:13:12 -0400, brocpuffs
wrote: To wit: the poor quality of new stuff, fresh from the manufacturer or whoever makes it for the manufacturer (which helps absolve the manufacturer from having to do repairs on shoddy stuff) Woodworking is about making things from wood, not about buying tools. |
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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message Woodworking is about making things from wood, not about buying tools. So, if wood"working" is not about buying tools, what the hell are we doing with these opposing thumbs? -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 7/10/04 |
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:52:16 +0100, Andy Dingley wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:13:12 -0400, brocpuffs wrote: To wit: the poor quality of new stuff, fresh from the manufacturer or whoever makes it for the manufacturer (which helps absolve the manufacturer from having to do repairs on shoddy stuff) Woodworking is about making things from wood, not about buying tools. Says who? |
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:52:16 +0100, Andy Dingley
wrote: Woodworking is about making things from wood, not about buying tools. Oh Man.... Andy, you're gonna get crucified for that one.... |
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 01:26:24 +0100, Andy Dingley
wrote: On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:00:42 -0700, wrote: Andy, you're gonna get crucified for that one.... Bring it on.... I've spent the last two days making sword mountings 8-) Today I used a _wide_ range of tools. I admit that I roughed the stock down on the tablesaw first, but after that I spent a whole day working and didn't use anything other than four chisels AHA! TOOLS! Man, who said I was referring to power tools only? and a pencil. 90% of hmmm - does a pencil qualify as a tool? Of course. Even a flat rock with one edge sharpened is a tool! it was with just one shallow carving gouge. TOOL!! Gotcha! (I was using lime, so I didn't even need to re-hone it.) -whatever ;-) James |
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Is it that the quality of the products has gone down, or that we expect more
from what we buy. or is that we expect a lot more from the products we do buy then we are actually paying for. I would not trade my new vehicle for my first car. It was a lot of fun but the amount of work required to keep it running was substantially more than what I have now. I think the same thing can be applied to most goods. Most consumer goods are much higher quality then they were 20 years ago, but the high end stuff seems to have dropped off a bit, probably because for most people they do not need the high end stuff and are unwilling to pay for it. years ago, if you wanted something reliable you had to pay top dollar. Now you can get stuff that is very serviceable for a lot less, and while it may not be quite up to the standards of top notch stuff of a while back, it also costs much less. "brocpuffs" wrote in message ... Hi fellas, I am "in" the rec.guns NG and a new topic has emerged, one we all know. To wit: the poor quality of new stuff, fresh from the manufacturer or whoever makes it for the manufacturer (which helps absolve the manufacturer from having to do repairs on shoddy stuff) . I think we have more of that problem in woodworking, but it exists in other universes too :-) James |
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:13:12 -0400, brocpuffs
wrote: Hi fellas, I am "in" the rec.guns NG and a new topic has emerged, one we all know. To wit: the poor quality of new stuff, fresh from the manufacturer or whoever makes it for the manufacturer (which helps absolve the manufacturer from having to do repairs on shoddy stuff) . I think we have more of that problem in woodworking, but it exists in other universes too :-) James The only mitigating comment here is that I remember my dad and grandfathers complaining about the lousy quality of new [farm machinery, cars, guns, tools] as well -- back in the 1960's. While there are declines in some brands, there seem to be other brands that rise to capture niche markets for those who appreciate quality -- witness the businesses like Lee Valley, Steve Knight, Ed Bennett, Horton Brass, McFeeley's, and other similar businesses who, though smaller than the megalithic conglomerates, have carved out a niche in the market and are appreciated by that niche. |
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