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I've a _very_ old release; was wanting to try to get newer to do some on
the house project of 'Reclaimed' subthread...unfortunately, latest Trimble link is to 2015 which won't install as don't have Win7 or newer. Anybody (like Leon ) lastest version runs under XP and wouldn't happen to have the installer for that release by any chance't... I struggled getting started way back when and gave it up...I've spent most of the day today in between other things watching the intro tutorials and think I finally begin to get the picture of how to proceed. If have to, I think I can probably make the earlier release work but I know there are a lot of enhancements since 2007... -- |
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On 4/23/2017 3:33 PM, dpb wrote:
I've a _very_ old release; was wanting to try to get newer to do some on the house project of 'Reclaimed' subthread...unfortunately, latest Trimble link is to 2015 which won't install as don't have Win7 or newer. Anybody (like Leon ) lastest version runs under XP and wouldn't happen to have the installer for that release by any chance't... I struggled getting started way back when and gave it up...I've spent most of the day today in between other things watching the intro tutorials and think I finally begin to get the picture of how to proceed. If have to, I think I can probably make the earlier release work but I know there are a lot of enhancements since 2007... -- I have a Sketchup Make 2013 Install file, Dated 6/23/2013 And Google Sketchup WEN 8/29/2012 Install file. I would not use anything older. I can email them to you if you send me an email address. |
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On 04/23/2017 4:34 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/23/2017 3:33 PM, dpb wrote: .... Anybody (like Leon ) lastest version runs under XP and wouldn't happen to have the installer for that release by any chance't... .... I have a Sketchup Make 2013 Install file, Dated 6/23/2013 And Google Sketchup WEN 8/29/2012 Install file. I would not use anything older. I can email them to you if you send me an email address. Well, I guess I gave up too quickly; another foray found SU Make 2014 link and that did install... OK, I can now figure out how to make a 3D box to start that actually does have the dimensions of the house outline for starters...I've got two puzzlers that should be easy but can't finger out to save me... 1) The arrow keys to constrain to a given axes don't seem to function or I don't know how to make them do so...what's the trick? 2) I kept drawing a rectangle moving the cursor around until by some magic the starting face was aligned to the right axis to get the initial box. So, now to add the porch addition, how do you set a distance from one end as the start point for the next rectangle to pull out of the face??? At least, from watching videos, that seems the way to make the shape but all they do is free hand, not matching an existing/wanted specific location. -- |
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On 4/23/2017 6:03 PM, dpb wrote:
On 04/23/2017 4:34 PM, Leon wrote: On 4/23/2017 3:33 PM, dpb wrote: ... Anybody (like Leon ) lastest version runs under XP and wouldn't happen to have the installer for that release by any chance't... ... I have a Sketchup Make 2013 Install file, Dated 6/23/2013 And Google Sketchup WEN 8/29/2012 Install file. I would not use anything older. I can email them to you if you send me an email address. Well, I guess I gave up too quickly; another foray found SU Make 2014 link and that did install... OK, I can now figure out how to make a 3D box to start that actually does have the dimensions of the house outline for starters...I've got two puzzlers that should be easy but can't finger out to save me... 1) The arrow keys to constrain to a given axes don't seem to function or I don't know how to make them do so...what's the trick? That is a feature that you have to hold your mouth just right. ;~) I think it works best if you move the cursor in the correct direction with the blue, red, or green line showing up and then holding down the appropriate arrow key. It is so iffy that it works much better in the latest version. Read that as improvements have been made. 2) I kept drawing a rectangle moving the cursor around until by some magic the starting face was aligned to the right axis to get the initial box. So, now to add the porch addition, how do you set a distance from one end as the start point for the next rectangle to pull out of the face??? At least, from watching videos, that seems the way to make the shape but all they do is free hand, not matching an existing/wanted specific location. -- I am not real certain I understand what you are trying to do but...... Can you show the link to the video that you are watching so that I can watch and understand what you are trying to do? |
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On 04/23/2017 9:30 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/23/2017 6:03 PM, dpb wrote: .... two puzzlers that should be easy but can't finger out to save me... 1) The arrow keys to constrain to a given axes don't seem to function or I don't know how to make them do so...what's the trick? That is a feature that you have to hold your mouth just right. ;~) I think it works best if you move the cursor in the correct direction with the blue, red, or green line showing up and then holding down the appropriate arrow key. It is so iffy that it works much better in the latest version. Read that as improvements have been made. .... OK, so it's not just me, then... 2) ...So, now to add the porch addition, how do you set a distance from one end as the start point for the next rectangle to pull out of the face??? At least, from watching videos, that seems the way to make the shape but all they do is free hand, not matching an existing/wanted specific location. I am not real certain I understand what you are trying to do but...... Can you show the link to the video that you are watching so that I can watch and understand what you are trying to do? https://www.sketchup.com/learn/videos/826 The first of those at that page is as good as any, Leon. He shows how to start by pulling a rectangle to a solid, then lay another rectangle on a face and pull to make steps, say. I grok how to control width and height on the rectangle, what I can't figure out is how to make the initial point a given, fixed distance from the vertical (blue) axis corner on the face to match position of an existing feature. It appears to me those are just freehanded or at one of the inferred locations such as midpoint or the like, not placed at a specific location. I was able to move the added feature (his step, my entry) back and forth and get it close, but it's supposed to be 18" from the south side of the house and the distance tool is 1' 6 1/16" and I haven't the manual dexterity to get it to stop at the even inch. Somehow, there's got to be a way to specify that distance but I can't figure out how, directly, anyway. He goes on to show raising a roof line by bisecting the area; that I see. I'm puzzling over how to effectively lay a pitched roof back to the sidewall--it's a similar problem to the above in I know the rise but not sure how to specify that length above the top of the addition (his step top) for the connection point. -- |
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"dpb" wrote in message news I was able to move the added feature (his step, my entry) back and forth and get it close, but it's supposed to be 18" from the south side of the house and the distance tool is 1' 6 1/16" and I haven't the manual dexterity to get it to stop at the even inch. Somehow, there's got to be a way to specify that distance but I can't figure out how, directly, anyway. He goes on to show raising a roof line by bisecting the area; that I see. I'm puzzling over how to effectively lay a pitched roof back to the sidewall--it's a similar problem to the above in I know the rise but not sure how to specify that length above the top of the addition (his step top) for the connection point. When you start drawing, length appears at the lower right of the window. To specify a length, stop drawing and just type the length, press ENTER when finished. |
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On 4/24/2017 7:20 AM, dpb wrote:
On 04/23/2017 9:30 PM, Leon wrote: On 4/23/2017 6:03 PM, dpb wrote: ... two puzzlers that should be easy but can't finger out to save me... 1) The arrow keys to constrain to a given axes don't seem to function or I don't know how to make them do so...what's the trick? That is a feature that you have to hold your mouth just right. ;~) I think it works best if you move the cursor in the correct direction with the blue, red, or green line showing up and then holding down the appropriate arrow key. It is so iffy that it works much better in the latest version. Read that as improvements have been made. ... OK, so it's not just me, then... No, Even today I struggle with it. 2) ...So, now to add the porch addition, how do you set a distance from one end as the start point for the next rectangle to pull out of the face??? At least, from watching videos, that seems the way to make the shape but all they do is free hand, not matching an existing/wanted specific location. If you are asking, how do I create a separate rectangle or cube a specific direction or distance from the fitst? First be sure to make the first rectangle or cube into a component. Now to set the start location you can use the measure tool to create temporary lines or draw actual lines, x distance, and y distance away from the point on the original rectangle or cube. Or after creating your first cube or rectangle component begin making another adjasent to the first. It will not stick because the first is a component. Now select all of the second rectangle or cube and type "M" for move select and move it. You can move a specific distance from the original rectangle/cube by selecting the second cube/rectangle and clicking on a reference starting point on the original and typing in x,y distance as the distance and direction to move the second rectangle/cube. Note: you can star any part of a drawing anywhere on the screen. You do not have to begin at the xyz axis. BUT it seem to work better for zooming if you begin in the vicinity of the xyz axis. Also keep in mind that when your cursor gets close to the end or a mid point of a line the cursor will snap to that point. This is handy for precisely selecting reference points to move other components/objects a specific distance away or towards that point. Has this been any help at all? I am not real certain I understand what you are trying to do but...... Can you show the link to the video that you are watching so that I can watch and understand what you are trying to do? https://www.sketchup.com/learn/videos/826 The first of those at that page is as good as any, Leon. He shows how to start by pulling a rectangle to a solid, then lay another rectangle on a face and pull to make steps, say. I grok how to control width and height on the rectangle, what I can't figure out is how to make the initial point a given, fixed distance from the vertical (blue) axis corner on the face to match position of an existing feature. It appears to me those are just freehanded or at one of the inferred locations such as midpoint or the like, not placed at a specific location. I was able to move the added feature (his step, my entry) back and forth and get it close, but it's supposed to be 18" from the south side of the house and the distance tool is 1' 6 1/16" and I haven't the manual dexterity to get it to stop at the even inch. Somehow, there's got to be a way to specify that distance but I can't figure out how, directly, anyway. He goes on to show raising a roof line by bisecting the area; that I see. I'm puzzling over how to effectively lay a pitched roof back to the sidewall--it's a similar problem to the above in I know the rise but not sure how to specify that length above the top of the addition (his step top) for the connection point. -- |
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"dpb" wrote in message news 2) I kept drawing a rectangle moving the cursor around until by some magic the starting face was aligned to the right axis to get the initial box. So, now to add the porch addition, how do you set a distance from one end as the start point for the next rectangle to pull out of the face??? At least, from watching videos, that seems the way to make the shape but all they do is free hand, not matching an existing/wanted specific location. Use the Tape Measure to mark the starting point. |
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"dadiOH" wrote in message news "dpb" wrote in message news 2) I kept drawing a rectangle moving the cursor around until by some magic the starting face was aligned to the right axis to get the initial box. So, now to add the porch addition, how do you set a distance from one end as the start point for the next rectangle to pull out of the face??? At least, from watching videos, that seems the way to make the shape but all they do is free hand, not matching an existing/wanted specific location. Use the Tape Measure to mark the starting point. And make all items into seperate components. |
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On 04/24/2017 6:34 AM, dadiOH wrote:
wrote in message news 2) I kept drawing a rectangle moving the cursor around until by some magic the starting face was aligned to the right axis to get the initial box. So, now to add the porch addition, how do you set a distance from one end as the start point for the next rectangle to pull out of the face??? At least, from watching videos, that seems the way to make the shape but all they do is free hand, not matching an existing/wanted specific location. Use the Tape Measure to mark the starting point. Oh. I'll have to give that a go...thnx. Hadn't seen this reply earlier... -- |
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"dpb" wrote in message news On 04/24/2017 6:34 AM, dadiOH wrote: wrote in message news 2) I kept drawing a rectangle moving the cursor around until by some magic the starting face was aligned to the right axis to get the initial box. So, now to add the porch addition, how do you set a distance from one end as the start point for the next rectangle to pull out of the face??? At least, from watching videos, that seems the way to make the shape but all they do is free hand, not matching an existing/wanted specific location. Use the Tape Measure to mark the starting point. Oh. I'll have to give that a go...thnx. Hadn't seen this reply earlier... Be sure to turn what you have into a component before you start adding stuff to it. |
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dpb wrote:
I've a _very_ old release; was wanting to try to get newer to do some on the house project of 'Reclaimed' subthread...unfortunately, latest Trimble link is to 2015 which won't install as don't have Win7 or newer. Anybody (like Leon ) lastest version runs under XP and wouldn't happen to have the installer for that release by any chance't... I struggled getting started way back when and gave it up...I've spent most of the day today in between other things watching the intro tutorials and think I finally begin to get the picture of how to proceed. If have to, I think I can probably make the earlier release work but I know there are a lot of enhancements since 2007... http://filehippo.com/download_sketchup_make/tech/15761/ your welcome. |
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