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have been trying out a program for making 3d models called openscad instead of clicking a mouse to create your object you define it programatically so far just playing with it to understand how it works not sure how to generate dimension text the syntax is not too abstract but it is an entirely new way to design in 3d |
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 18:55:48 -0800, Electric Comet
wrote: have been trying out a program for making 3d models called openscad What's wrong with Sketchup? instead of clicking a mouse to create your object you define it programatically You can do that in Sketchup, too. so far just playing with it to understand how it works not sure how to generate dimension text the syntax is not too abstract but it is an entirely new way to design in 3d Doesn't sound very useful to me. |
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:09:06 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote: In article 2isr5chr1ouvp3bfemuebt1140uovrhuk1@ 4ax.com, says... On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 18:55:48 -0800, Electric Comet wrote: have been trying out a program for making 3d models called openscad What's wrong with Sketchup? instead of clicking a mouse to create your object you define it programatically You can do that in Sketchup, too. so far just playing with it to understand how it works not sure how to generate dimension text the syntax is not too abstract but it is an entirely new way to design in 3d Doesn't sound very useful to me. If the "new thing" about it is "defining programmatically", there's nothing new about that. That's how Autocad has _always_ worked. Autocad has not always been a "parametric cad" I believe it has only been a fully parametric cad since Acad 2010 while design View, for instance, has been a parametric cad since at least 1992 in 2D |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 00:14:00 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote: In article qcvr5c9g5rgeh99cennk4bu8sld2m2a5ok@ 4ax.com, says... On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:09:06 -0500, "J. Clarke" wrote: In article 2isr5chr1ouvp3bfemuebt1140uovrhuk1@ 4ax.com, says... On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 18:55:48 -0800, Electric Comet wrote: have been trying out a program for making 3d models called openscad What's wrong with Sketchup? instead of clicking a mouse to create your object you define it programatically You can do that in Sketchup, too. so far just playing with it to understand how it works not sure how to generate dimension text the syntax is not too abstract but it is an entirely new way to design in 3d Doesn't sound very useful to me. If the "new thing" about it is "defining programmatically", there's nothing new about that. That's how Autocad has _always_ worked. Autocad has not always been a "parametric cad" I believe it has only been a fully parametric cad since Acad 2010 while design View, for instance, has been a parametric cad since at least 1992 in 2D Whatever "parametric cad" is, there was a time when point and click was a new innovation that was added to Autocad. You have always run it by typing commands and after a while a programming language was added. That's "defining programmatically" in my book. If he meant something else he should have said it. Parametric cad uses a database of dimensions and by redefining either a linear measurement or an angle, the entire diagram is redrawn. You can lengthen a part by 50 thou, or by 2 inches, or by 2 feet by simply redefining a line segment. If a hole is defined as being centered to that line segment, it is properly relocated. Just a few really basic examples of a VERY powerful design tool.. |
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Electric Comet wrote:
have been trying out a program for making 3d models called openscad instead of clicking a mouse to create your object you define it programatically so far just playing with it to understand how it works not sure how to generate dimension text the syntax is not too abstract but it is an entirely new way to design in 3d . New to you maybe but a very old method of drawing. Sketchup is pretty much 'it' for woodworking. |
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J. Clarke wrote:
In article qcvr5c9g5rgeh99cennk4bu8sld2m2a5ok@ 4ax.com, says... On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:09:06 -0500, "J. Clarke" wrote: In article 2isr5chr1ouvp3bfemuebt1140uovrhuk1@ 4ax.com, says... On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 18:55:48 -0800, Electric Comet wrote: have been trying out a program for making 3d models called openscad What's wrong with Sketchup? instead of clicking a mouse to create your object you define it programatically You can do that in Sketchup, too. so far just playing with it to understand how it works not sure how to generate dimension text the syntax is not too abstract but it is an entirely new way to design in 3d Doesn't sound very useful to me. If the "new thing" about it is "defining programmatically", there's nothing new about that. That's how Autocad has _always_ worked. Autocad has not always been a "parametric cad" I believe it has only been a fully parametric cad since Acad 2010 while design View, for instance, has been a parametric cad since at least 1992 in 2D Whatever "parametric cad" is, there was a time when point and click was a new innovation that was added to Autocad. You have always run it by typing commands and after a while a programming language was added. That's "defining programmatically" in my book. If he meant something else he should have said it. Agreed! |
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On 2016-12-24, Leon wrote:
New to you maybe but a very old method of drawing. Sketchup is pretty much 'it' for woodworking. Too bad Gobble never made it fer Linux. I've never quite understood Gobble's reluctance. C'mon, their entire server system is Linux. Anywho, I gave my ex lead designer an old precursor to Sketchup, to try. It was like E (an old early modeling SGI program), but he didn't like it --over AutoCad-- cuz it did not have a "stretch" function. ;) nb |
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On 12/24/2016 9:14 AM, notbob wrote:
On 2016-12-24, Leon wrote: New to you maybe but a very old method of drawing. Sketchup is pretty much 'it' for woodworking. Too bad Gobble never made it fer Linux. I've never quite understood Gobble's reluctance. C'mon, their entire server system is Linux. Anywho, I gave my ex lead designer an old precursor to Sketchup, to try. It was like E (an old early modeling SGI program), but he didn't like it --over AutoCad-- cuz it did not have a "stretch" function. ;) nb Google was just an interim owner of Sketchup. Sketchup was originally developed by another company that charged for the product. Some years later Google bought Sketchup and offered it as a free tool. About 3 years ago Google sold Sketchup to Trimble, a software company. |
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On 12/23/2016 11:14 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article qcvr5c9g5rgeh99cennk4bu8sld2m2a5ok@ 4ax.com, says... On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:09:06 -0500, "J. Clarke" wrote: In article 2isr5chr1ouvp3bfemuebt1140uovrhuk1@ 4ax.com, says... On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 18:55:48 -0800, Electric Comet wrote: have been trying out a program for making 3d models called openscad What's wrong with Sketchup? instead of clicking a mouse to create your object you define it programatically You can do that in Sketchup, too. so far just playing with it to understand how it works not sure how to generate dimension text the syntax is not too abstract but it is an entirely new way to design in 3d Doesn't sound very useful to me. If the "new thing" about it is "defining programmatically", there's nothing new about that. That's how Autocad has _always_ worked. Autocad has not always been a "parametric cad" I believe it has only been a fully parametric cad since Acad 2010 while design View, for instance, has been a parametric cad since at least 1992 in 2D Whatever "parametric cad" is, there was a time when point and click was a new innovation that was added to Autocad. You have always run it by typing commands and after a while a programming language was added. That's "defining programmatically" in my book. If he meant something else he should have said it. IIRC AutoCAD LT was developed and used a Windows environment, clickable icons and DDE, before AutoCAD. |
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 18:55:48 -0800
Electric Comet wrote: have been trying out a program for making 3d models called openscad lots of models on thigiverse also notice that 3d printers like this software much better than some of the commercial software so it talks correctly to cnc whereas other popular ones do not |
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notbob wrote:
On 2016-12-24, Leon wrote: New to you maybe but a very old method of drawing. Sketchup is pretty much 'it' for woodworking. Too bad Gobble never made it fer Linux. I've never quite understood Gobble's reluctance. C'mon, their entire server system is Linux. Does SketchUp not run on WINE? When there are more Linux users, there will be more software ported to it. BTW, Google sold SU to another company in recent years, I believe. Bill Anywho, I gave my ex lead designer an old precursor to Sketchup, to try. It was like E (an old early modeling SGI program), but he didn't like it --over AutoCad-- cuz it did not have a "stretch" function. ;) nb |
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Bill wrote in
: Does SketchUp not run on WINE? When there are more Linux users, there will be more software ported to it. BTW, Google sold SU to another company in recent years, I believe. Bill It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. Windows is on its way out, people are tired of constant updates, they're tired of being spied on, they're slowly coming to realize their systems were pwned from the moment Windows was installed *for real this time*. Windows 7 will be the last version of Windows for me unless something changes. Hey, I just saw Raspberry Pi's desktop was ported to run on X86. I've used it on the Pi, it's nice. Puckdropper -- http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst! |
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On 24 Dec 2016 22:50:49 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: Bill wrote in : Does SketchUp not run on WINE? When there are more Linux users, there will be more software ported to it. BTW, Google sold SU to another company in recent years, I believe. Bill It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. Windows is on its way out, people are tired of constant updates, they're tired of being spied on, they're slowly coming to realize their systems were pwned from the moment Windows was installed *for real this time*. Windows 7 will be the last version of Windows for me unless something changes. I've been hearing that for almost thirty years. Hey, I just saw Raspberry Pi's desktop was ported to run on X86. I've used it on the Pi, it's nice. Puckdropper |
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Puckdropper wrote:
Bill wrote in : Does SketchUp not run on WINE? When there are more Linux users, there will be more software ported to it. BTW, Google sold SU to another company in recent years, I believe. Bill It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. Windows is on its way out, people are tired of constant updates, they're tired of being spied on, they're slowly coming to realize their systems were pwned from the moment Windows was installed *for real this time*. Windows 7 will be the last version of Windows for me unless something changes. I have Linux installed as a dual boot. Mostly, I like Linux for running some freeware Java programs of foreign origin, in which I then don't have to instill "my full faith and trust". Hey, I just saw Raspberry Pi's desktop was ported to run on X86. I've used it on the Pi, it's nice. Puckdropper |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 18:38:31 -0500, Bill
wrote: Puckdropper wrote: Bill wrote in : Does SketchUp not run on WINE? When there are more Linux users, there will be more software ported to it. BTW, Google sold SU to another company in recent years, I believe. Bill It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. Windows is on its way out, people are tired of constant updates, they're tired of being spied on, they're slowly coming to realize their systems were pwned from the moment Windows was installed *for real this time*. Windows 7 will be the last version of Windows for me unless something changes. I have Linux installed as a dual boot. Mostly, I like Linux for running some freeware Java programs of foreign origin, in which I then don't have to instill "my full faith and trust". I intend to run Linux as a guest under Windows (just bought a new laptop that is big enough to do it without choking). I tried Linux a decade ago but had no interest in spending all my time being a system programmer. If it doesn't just work, I don't want it. We'll see if Linux has grown up any. |
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krw wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 18:38:31 -0500, Bill wrote: Puckdropper wrote: Bill wrote in : Does SketchUp not run on WINE? When there are more Linux users, there will be more software ported to it. BTW, Google sold SU to another company in recent years, I believe. Bill It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. Windows is on its way out, people are tired of constant updates, they're tired of being spied on, they're slowly coming to realize their systems were pwned from the moment Windows was installed *for real this time*. Windows 7 will be the last version of Windows for me unless something changes. I have Linux installed as a dual boot. Mostly, I like Linux for running some freeware Java programs of foreign origin, in which I then don't have to instill "my full faith and trust". I intend to run Linux as a guest under Windows (just bought a new laptop that is big enough to do it without choking). I tried Linux a decade ago but had no interest in spending all my time being a system programmer. If it doesn't just work, I don't want it. We'll see if Linux has grown up any. I'm using the "Mint" version. To make Java run in the full screen I had to download support directly from Oracle. I keep detailed notes (for when I have to do it again). Good luck! |
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krw wrote in news:460u5c5cv0eg5vj9ra5oug6tp6mmhso1ru@
4ax.com: On 24 Dec 2016 22:50:49 GMT, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. Windows is on its way out, people are tired of constant updates, they're tired of being spied on, they're slowly coming to realize their systems were pwned from the moment Windows was installed *for real this time*. Windows 7 will be the last version of Windows for me unless something changes. I've been hearing that for almost thirty years. So have I. I'll probably wind up dual booting, as there's just some programs out there that can't see past Windows. I wonder if there's a decent virtual PC type program out there for Linux that will let me run Windows on Linux. Puckdropper -- http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst! |
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Puckdropper wrote:
krw wrote in news:460u5c5cv0eg5vj9ra5oug6tp6mmhso1ru@ 4ax.com: On 24 Dec 2016 22:50:49 GMT, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. Windows is on its way out, people are tired of constant updates, they're tired of being spied on, they're slowly coming to realize their systems were pwned from the moment Windows was installed *for real this time*. Windows 7 will be the last version of Windows for me unless something changes. I've been hearing that for almost thirty years. So have I. I'll probably wind up dual booting, as there's just some programs out there that can't see past Windows. I wonder if there's a decent virtual PC type program out there for Linux that will let me run Windows on Linux. Well, Oracle's "Virtual Box" will let you run Linux on Windows. Free, works good. Puckdropper |
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On 12/25/2016 1:27 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
krw wrote in news:460u5c5cv0eg5vj9ra5oug6tp6mmhso1ru@ 4ax.com: On 24 Dec 2016 22:50:49 GMT, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. Windows is on its way out, people are tired of constant updates, they're tired of being spied on, they're slowly coming to realize their systems were pwned from the moment Windows was installed *for real this time*. Windows 7 will be the last version of Windows for me unless something changes. I've been hearing that for almost thirty years. So have I. I'll probably wind up dual booting, as there's just some programs out there that can't see past Windows. I wonder if there's a decent virtual PC type program out there for Linux that will let me run Windows on Linux. Puckdropper There are two constants in the computer world. One Unix and/or its derivatives are the OS of the future and the other is Windows is dead. It has been this way since I seriously got into computers in the 1980's, and it is still the same way. This is on the same category as Donald Trump will be defeated by Hilary, and if elected will not be a good president. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year |
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In article 585f66d6$0$53472$c3e8da3$b1356c67
@news.astraweb.com, Puckdropper says... krw wrote in news:460u5c5cv0eg5vj9ra5oug6tp6mmhso1ru@ 4ax.com: On 24 Dec 2016 22:50:49 GMT, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. Windows is on its way out, people are tired of constant updates, they're tired of being spied on, they're slowly coming to realize their systems were pwned from the moment Windows was installed *for real this time*. Windows 7 will be the last version of Windows for me unless something changes. I've been hearing that for almost thirty years. So have I. I'll probably wind up dual booting, as there's just some programs out there that can't see past Windows. I wonder if there's a decent virtual PC type program out there for Linux that will let me run Windows on Linux. Virtual Box is free and works. https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads VMWare Workstation Player used to be free but now it's 150 bucks--also works well. In either case check the compability list and make sure your hardware supports it. And get lots and lots of RAM. Merry Christmas. |
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On 2016-12-25, Puckdropper puckdropper wrote:
krw wrote in news:460u5c5cv0eg5vj9ra5oug6tp6mmhso1ru@ On 24 Dec 2016 22:50:49 GMT, Puckdropper It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. I've been hearing that for almost thirty years. So have I. A good trick, as Linux has only been around fer 25 yrs. ;) nb |
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On 25 Dec 2016 16:45:48 GMT, notbob wrote:
On 2016-12-25, Puckdropper puckdropper wrote: krw wrote in news:460u5c5cv0eg5vj9ra5oug6tp6mmhso1ru@ On 24 Dec 2016 22:50:49 GMT, Puckdropper It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. I've been hearing that for almost thirty years. So have I. A good trick, as Linux has only been around fer 25 yrs. ;) I guess you're not old enough to have heard of OS/2. |
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krw wrote in
: On 25 Dec 2016 16:45:48 GMT, notbob wrote: A good trick, as Linux has only been around fer 25 yrs. ;) I guess you're not old enough to have heard of OS/2. What's OS/2 got to do with Linux? I've played with OS/2 2.1, and Warp 3, and it feels nothing like Linux. (Never did get Warp 4. I'd like to have a copy to play with if anyone happens to still have one.) It had its problems, but they did put together a pretty decent UI. Puckdropper -- http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst! |
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Keith Nuttle wrote in
: There are two constants in the computer world. One Unix and/or its derivatives are the OS of the future and the other is Windows is dead. It has been this way since I seriously got into computers in the 1980's, and it is still the same way. This is on the same category as Donald Trump will be defeated by Hilary, and if elected will not be a good president. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Yep, I know. But, at a young age I came to realize Windows is actually really really good. Linux desktop of that era was really really bad, I remember waiting for XWindows to start, going to a church dinner and finding the computer was still working on starting it... on a 486. I've got some experience with Debian, MintPPC, and Raspberry Pi's UIs and they're quite usable. (MintPPC is in major need of an update.) Raspbian's UI is quite good, with a few problems. (How hard is it to add an icon to the desktop? What's wrong with the good ol' right click, "Add Shortcut...") We're seeing a shift, more people than ever are talking about Linux. I won't say "2017 will be the year of Linux on the desktop" because it won't. Linux will take over like Firefox... Slowly. All of a sudden you realize Firefox has to be taken seriously. (That's a whole 'nother can of worms... because now you realize Firefox *can't* be taken seriously anymore. The fork Pale Moon is really good.) Puckdropper -- http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst! |
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On 25 Dec 2016 18:17:24 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote: krw wrote in : On 25 Dec 2016 16:45:48 GMT, notbob wrote: A good trick, as Linux has only been around fer 25 yrs. ;) I guess you're not old enough to have heard of OS/2. What's OS/2 got to do with Linux? Before Windows was "losing market share and being buried by Linux", it was "losing market share and being buried by OS/2". Same absurd proposition. Linux is for nerds and people who get a thrill from being their own system programmer. It always will be. I've played with OS/2 2.1, and Warp 3, and it feels nothing like Linux. (Never did get Warp 4. I'd like to have a copy to play with if anyone happens to still have one.) Threw mine out years ago, when I finally went to the dark side (Win2K). It had its problems, but they did put together a pretty decent UI. It's problems were in Redmond. |
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On 2016-12-25, J. Clarke wrote:
Linux, to anyone who is not a Sheldon Cooper clone, is just another flavor of Unix. .....which has been around fer 43 yrs. I certainly hope yer WW measurements are more accurate. ;) nb |
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krw wrote:
Before Windows was "losing market share and being buried by Linux", it was "losing market share and being buried by OS/2". Same absurd proposition. Linux is for nerds and people who get a thrill from being their own system programmer. It always will be. Someone recently gave me an older Apple Ipad (I'm on day 2). It appears to show little respect for my privacy... |
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On 12/25/2016 12:54 PM, krw wrote:
On 25 Dec 2016 16:45:48 GMT, notbob wrote: On 2016-12-25, Puckdropper puckdropper wrote: krw wrote in news:460u5c5cv0eg5vj9ra5oug6tp6mmhso1ru@ On 24 Dec 2016 22:50:49 GMT, Puckdropper It's coming. Linux will eventually make it to the desktop in a big way. I've been hearing that for almost thirty years. So have I. A good trick, as Linux has only been around fer 25 yrs. ;) I guess you're not old enough to have heard of OS/2. When I got my first computer the first thing I did was install OS/2. I ran several computers on OS/2 including a LAN server until the 1990. and when the company I worked for was purchased by a company who ran the Windows server. When I purchased a new personal computer and was forced into the of world Windows 98, it was like going back into the dark ages. |
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On 2016-12-26, J. Clarke wrote:
Do you have ADHD? No. Do you? The reason I ask is that there's a behavior characteristic of ADHDers which we call "Ready, Fire, Aim". You seem to know waaaay more about it than I do. so I'll defer to yer opinion. Perhaps your comment should have been aimed at someone who actually reported some manner of measurement. Perhaps. You have any suggestions? ;) nb |
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On 12/25/2016 1:26 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
Yep, I know. But, at a young age I came to realize Windows is actually really really good. Windows was never really good, let alone really, really good. Well, there was one version of windows that was really good, and that was OS/2. The only version of Win that actually worked. We're seeing a shift, more people than ever are talking about Linux. I won't say "2017 will be the year of Linux on the desktop" because it won't. Linux will take over like Firefox... Slowly. All of a sudden you realize Firefox has to be taken seriously. (That's a whole 'nother can of worms... because now you realize Firefox *can't* be taken seriously anymore. The fork Pale Moon is really good.) The desk top is dying a fast death. Kids (under 40) today don't use them, they use their cell phones. Actually they use todays Portable Computer (PC), which is incorrectly called a cell phone. Almost no one uses the cell phone part of their PC much, they use text for that. Otherwise it's social media. As for Linux, (which of course is really just a hacked copy of Unix) that has already killed Windows dead as hell. 99% of PC's (aka cell phones) are powered by UNIX based OS's. Android and Mac OS are based on UNIX, not windows. The Desktop is dead, killed by so called cell phones. The entire internet runs on Unix, almost all cell phones (PC's) run on Unix based OS's. -- Jack Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life. http://jbstein.com |
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On 12/25/2016 10:22 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
When I got my first computer the first thing I did was install OS/2. My first computer ran DOS 2.1, because 2.0 never worked. I ran several computers on OS/2 including a LAN server until the 1990. and when the company I worked for was purchased by a company who ran the Windows server. When I purchased a new personal computer and was forced into the of world Windows 98, it was like going back into the dark ages. I ran OS/2 at home for many years, until IBM saw it was about to kill windows, then they, (and I begrudgingly) let it go. My brother still runs it. There is a company somewhere that keeps it going. OS/2 WARP not only made WIN 95 and Win 98 look like they were from the dark ages, it would make WIN 10 look like it is from the dark ages. You could run DOS, WIN95 and OS/2 apps all at the same time, seamlessly. When WIN would crash, like it has always done since it's first version, everything else kept running, and all you need to do was close the WIN session and open another. Windows (Microsoft) is the scourge of computing. It is a perfect example of why the government invented anti-trust laws, and unfortunately, what can happen if they are ignored/bought off. Another feather in the Clinton reign of corruption. -- Jack Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life. http://jbstein.com |
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Jack wrote in :
On 12/25/2016 1:26 PM, Puckdropper wrote: Yep, I know. But, at a young age I came to realize Windows is actually really really good. Windows was never really good, let alone really, really good. Well, there was one version of windows that was really good, and that was OS/2. The only version of Win that actually worked. Well, we'll disagree there. Windows 9x had a good UI, but did lack in stability and security wasn't a big concern until Windows XP SP2. NT 4.0 had the stability (mostly) and UI of Windows 98, which is what I was running for quite some time. I had a Mac running OS 8 at the same time (I couldn't be bothered to spend the cash for OS X, which Btw is a GUI on top of Unix), and Windows NT was much better. Maybe it was what I was used to, maybe it was that I treated the Mac as a toy and didn't do any real work... Or maybe Windows NT was much better. We're seeing a shift, more people than ever are talking about Linux. I won't say "2017 will be the year of Linux on the desktop" because it won't. Linux will take over like Firefox... Slowly. All of a sudden you realize Firefox has to be taken seriously. (That's a whole 'nother can of worms... because now you realize Firefox *can't* be taken seriously anymore. The fork Pale Moon is really good.) The desk top is dying a fast death. Kids (under 40) today don't use them, they use their cell phones. Actually they use todays Portable Computer (PC), which is incorrectly called a cell phone. Almost no one uses the cell phone part of their PC much, they use text for that. Otherwise it's social media. As for Linux, (which of course is really just a hacked copy of Unix) that has already killed Windows dead as hell. 99% of PC's (aka cell phones) are powered by UNIX based OS's. Android and Mac OS are based on UNIX, not windows. The Desktop is dead, killed by so called cell phones. The entire internet runs on Unix, almost all cell phones (PC's) run on Unix based OS's. The desktop is not dying, but it is severly shrinking. When you need to sit down and get some work done, there's little better interface out there than the ultra-precise mouse and confident keyboard. What will happen is every family will have a computer for typing reports and the like, but will also have multiple portable devices OR perhaps the portable device with multiple interfaces will finally catch on. When you need to type and mouse, your portable device can be plugged in to another device that provides that hardware and maybe a bigger screen and your phone can become your computer. This isn't a new idea, I've got a LapDock for my Pi. (It might have caught on if the LapDock didn't have to cost so much.) There's more servers running Windows Server and IIS than you'd think. I wouldn't say the entire Internet runs on Unix, but a significant portion does. Puckdropper -- http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst! |
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On 12/27/2016 9:52 AM, Jack wrote:
On 12/25/2016 1:26 PM, Puckdropper wrote: Yep, I know. But, at a young age I came to realize Windows is actually really really good. Windows was never really good, let alone really, really good. Well, there was one version of windows that was really good, and that was OS/2. The only version of Win that actually worked. We're seeing a shift, more people than ever are talking about Linux. I won't say "2017 will be the year of Linux on the desktop" because it won't. Linux will take over like Firefox... Slowly. All of a sudden you realize Firefox has to be taken seriously. (That's a whole 'nother can of worms... because now you realize Firefox *can't* be taken seriously anymore. The fork Pale Moon is really good.) The desk top is dying a fast death. Kids (under 40) today don't use them, they use their cell phones. Actually they use todays Portable Computer (PC), which is incorrectly called a cell phone. Almost no one uses the cell phone part of their PC much, they use text for that. Otherwise it's social media. As for Linux, (which of course is really just a hacked copy of Unix) that has already killed Windows dead as hell. 99% of PC's (aka cell phones) are powered by UNIX based OS's. Android and Mac OS are based on UNIX, not windows. The Desktop is dead, killed by so called cell phones. The entire internet runs on Unix, almost all cell phones (PC's) run on Unix based OS's. Not all under 40. My son is 24 and is a linux guru. He uses a laptop, as well as his phone, also uses windows for work. So he's multi lingual. He's C++ , C , java, and other language capable. I find the cell phone less capable than a laptop. I have not been impressed with the cell phone. Actually disappointed. I get frustrated by sites that won't let me view w/o an add blocker. Then they jump aroud like crazy while constantly re-displaying different size ads. that cause me to lose my place. I find the interface clunky and not as smooth as I would hope it would be. So my thumb goes down on the android interface. -- Jeff |
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