Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40.. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

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Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late.
Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up,
with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the
spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD
40. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up
the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

Soak it with penetrating oil and leave it over night. Most folks get
impatient for it to work instantly, but it doesn't. Kroil works pretty good
if you have some, but plane old Liquid Wrench works too. Then the next day
if it still won't come loose lock the blade, put a good fitting closed end
wrench on the nut, and give the wrench a couple modest taps with a decent
size hammer. 2 or 3 lb will work fine. You don't need a lot of swing
behind it. I think the heavier hammer with a modest swing gives you more
control than a lighter hammer with a harder swing.

On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

Are you turning it counter clockwise? It probably comes off by turning clockwise.

Sonny

On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 16:01:31 -0700 (PDT), Sonny
wrote:

On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

Are you turning it counter clockwise? It probably comes off by turning clockwise.

Doh! I hate it when that happens! I worked like hell to get the nut
off the arbor of my lawn edger before I discovered that it was a
left-hand thread. Turning it the right, err left, err *correct*
direction made it come off a whole lot easier. ;-)

On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 7:01:33 PM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

Are you turning it counter clockwise? It probably comes off by turning clockwise.

Sonny

I marked all my spindles with an arrow so I know which way is "loosen". Table saw, routers,
miter saw, circular saws. Anywhere the standard RT - LL rules might be confusing.

wrote in
:

Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as
of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my
saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly
decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there
and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40. Soaked with
vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the
nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be
appreciated.

Assuming that you're turning the nut the correct direction... there are many penetrating oils
on the market that do a far better job than WD-40, and most of them are available at any
auto parts sto PB Blaster, CRC 5-56, Kroil, and Liquid Wrench all are much better than
WD-40 for loosening rusted fasteners. My favorite is PB Blaster.

On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 6:04:04 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

interesting timing:
https://www.wwgoa.com/video/ideas-re...or-nut-011742/

On 10/6/2016 6:01 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

Are you turning it counter clockwise? It probably comes off by turning clockwise.

Sonny



Loosen in the same direction that the blade turns. That may be
clockwise or counter clockwise depending on which side of the blade the
nut is on.

On 10/6/2016 7:40 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 7:01:33 PM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

Are you turning it counter clockwise? It probably comes off by turning clockwise.

Sonny

I marked all my spindles with an arrow so I know which way is "loosen". Table saw, routers,
miter saw, circular saws. Anywhere the standard RT - LL rules might be confusing.



Easy to remember loosen in the direction that the blade turns. That is
pretty much with anything. For a nut to loosen accidentally while
running it would have to spin faster than the object it is securing,
that is not likely.

On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 12:13:57 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 10/6/2016 7:40 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 7:01:33 PM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

Are you turning it counter clockwise? It probably comes off by turning clockwise.

Sonny

I marked all my spindles with an arrow so I know which way is "loosen". Table saw, routers,
miter saw, circular saws. Anywhere the standard RT - LL rules might be confusing.



Easy to remember loosen in the direction that the blade turns. That is
pretty much with anything. For a nut to loosen accidentally while
running it would have to spin faster than the object it is securing,
that is not likely.

*Really* easy to look at an arrow. ;-)

But (seriously) routers that require 2 wrenches are a real pain, at least for
me. I marked one of my wrenches with "Right Hand Bottom Together Loosens"

That reminds me that if I hold one wrench in my right hand, put it on the
bottom nut (with the router upside down) and move the wrench handles towards
each other, the collet will loosen. It saves me from having to think - which
may or may not be a good thing. ;-)

On 10/7/2016 7:55 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 12:13:57 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 10/6/2016 7:40 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 7:01:33 PM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

Are you turning it counter clockwise? It probably comes off by turning clockwise.

Sonny

I marked all my spindles with an arrow so I know which way is "loosen". Table saw, routers,
miter saw, circular saws. Anywhere the standard RT - LL rules might be confusing.



Easy to remember loosen in the direction that the blade turns. That is
pretty much with anything. For a nut to loosen accidentally while
running it would have to spin faster than the object it is securing,
that is not likely.

*Really* easy to look at an arrow. ;-)

Understood but you have to determine which direction to point the arrow.
;~)



But (seriously) routers that require 2 wrenches are a real pain, at least for
me. I marked one of my wrenches with "Right Hand Bottom Together Loosens"

And I hate single wrench routers. ;~) I prefer to loosen and tighten
with a single hand squeezing the handles together. It gives you much
more leverage and control than having to hold the router and a lock
button with one hand and a wrench with another. Not totally unlike
using two wrenches to remove the arbor nut on your TS. The only
exception is my Triton table mounted router. The table holds the router
and the router spindle automatically locks when the collet is high
enough to get to the nut.


That reminds me that if I hold one wrench in my right hand, put it on the
bottom nut (with the router upside down) and move the wrench handles towards
each other, the collet will loosen. It saves me from having to think - which
may or may not be a good thing. ;-)


If the top wrench is right of the bottom wrench and you squeeze them
together you tighten, righty tighty. If the top wrench is to the left
of the bottom and you squeeze them together you loosen, Lefty losey. ;~)

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 08:10:25 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 10/7/2016 7:55 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 12:13:57 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 10/6/2016 7:40 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 7:01:33 PM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

Are you turning it counter clockwise? It probably comes off by turning clockwise.

Sonny

I marked all my spindles with an arrow so I know which way is "loosen". Table saw, routers,
miter saw, circular saws. Anywhere the standard RT - LL rules might be confusing.



Easy to remember loosen in the direction that the blade turns. That is
pretty much with anything. For a nut to loosen accidentally while
running it would have to spin faster than the object it is securing,
that is not likely.

*Really* easy to look at an arrow. ;-)

Understood but you have to determine which direction to point the arrow.
;~)



But (seriously) routers that require 2 wrenches are a real pain, at least for
me. I marked one of my wrenches with "Right Hand Bottom Together Loosens"

And I hate single wrench routers. ;~)

You mean like Festool? ;-)

I prefer to loosen and tighten
with a single hand squeezing the handles together. It gives you much
more leverage and control than having to hold the router and a lock
button with one hand and a wrench with another. Not totally unlike
using two wrenches to remove the arbor nut on your TS. The only
exception is my Triton table mounted router. The table holds the router
and the router spindle automatically locks when the collet is high
enough to get to the nut.

My table saw's outer wrench is bent outward so the one-hand trick
doesn't work all that well.


That reminds me that if I hold one wrench in my right hand, put it on the
bottom nut (with the router upside down) and move the wrench handles towards
each other, the collet will loosen. It saves me from having to think - which
may or may not be a good thing. ;-)


If the top wrench is right of the bottom wrench and you squeeze them
together you tighten, righty tighty. If the top wrench is to the left
of the bottom and you squeeze them together you loosen, Lefty losey. ;~)

On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 9:10:43 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 10/7/2016 7:55 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 12:13:57 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 10/6/2016 7:40 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 7:01:33 PM UTC-4, Sonny wrote:
On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 5:04:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Unfortunately I've had no really reason to use my table saw as of late. Stored in a metal shed, that leaks, moisture rusted my saw. I've cleaned up, with a number of things, and looks fairly decent. The problem is that the spindle nut is rusted on there and I can't get to budge. I sprayed with WD 40. Soaked with vinegar and Apple Cider vinegar. I use my torch to heat up the nut but that didn't work either. Any viable help will be appreciated.

Are you turning it counter clockwise? It probably comes off by turning clockwise.

Sonny

I marked all my spindles with an arrow so I know which way is "loosen". Table saw, routers,
miter saw, circular saws. Anywhere the standard RT - LL rules might be confusing.



Easy to remember loosen in the direction that the blade turns. That is
pretty much with anything. For a nut to loosen accidentally while
running it would have to spin faster than the object it is securing,
that is not likely.

*Really* easy to look at an arrow. ;-)

Understood but you have to determine which direction to point the arrow.
;~)

Just once! ;-)




But (seriously) routers that require 2 wrenches are a real pain, at least for
me. I marked one of my wrenches with "Right Hand Bottom Together Loosens"

And I hate single wrench routers. ;~) I prefer to loosen and tighten
with a single hand squeezing the handles together. It gives you much
more leverage and control than having to hold the router and a lock
button with one hand and a wrench with another. Not totally unlike
using two wrenches to remove the arbor nut on your TS. The only
exception is my Triton table mounted router. The table holds the router
and the router spindle automatically locks when the collet is high
enough to get to the nut.

My PC uses 2 wrenches. My Rocky 30 uses 1.

I probably hate them both equally, but for different reasons.



That reminds me that if I hold one wrench in my right hand, put it on the
bottom nut (with the router upside down) and move the wrench handles towards
each other, the collet will loosen. It saves me from having to think - which
may or may not be a good thing. ;-)


If the top wrench is right of the bottom wrench and you squeeze them
together you tighten, righty tighty. If the top wrench is to the left
of the bottom and you squeeze them together you loosen, Lefty losey. ;~)

That won't fit on my wrench handle. ;-)

On 10/7/2016 7:55 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

But (seriously) routers that require 2 wrenches are a real pain, at least for
me. I marked one of my wrenches with "Right Hand Bottom Together Loosens"

The only thing I disike about my Bosch Colt.

Use a bicycle wrench as a second wrench, instead of continually fighting
with the spindle lock push button that doesn't work very well.

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"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
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The only exception is my Triton table mounted router. The table holds the
router and the router spindle automatically locks when the collet is high
enough to get to the nut.

Spoil sport

On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 10:33:10 AM UTC-4, Swingman wrote:
On 10/7/2016 7:55 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

But (seriously) routers that require 2 wrenches are a real pain, at least for
me. I marked one of my wrenches with "Right Hand Bottom Together Loosens"

The only thing I disike about my Bosch Colt.

Use a bicycle wrench as a second wrench, instead of continually fighting
with the spindle lock push button that doesn't work very well.


Well, the spindle lock button on my Rocky 30 works very well...as long I
keep enough pressure on the spindle at the correct angle for the correct
amount of time and the Moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns
with Mars.

On 10/7/2016 11:07 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 10:33:10 AM UTC-4, Swingman wrote:
On 10/7/2016 7:55 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

But (seriously) routers that require 2 wrenches are a real pain, at least for
me. I marked one of my wrenches with "Right Hand Bottom Together Loosens"

The only thing I disike about my Bosch Colt.

Use a bicycle wrench as a second wrench, instead of continually fighting
with the spindle lock push button that doesn't work very well.


Well, the spindle lock button on my Rocky 30 works very well...as long I
keep enough pressure on the spindle at the correct angle for the correct
amount of time and the Moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns
with Mars.



Exactly LOL

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