next to this on the shelf was acrylic lacquer

this stuff didn't have any general classification and i asked the young fellow
and he was very confident but eventually admitted he did not know

i am calling it acrylic enamel

http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...over-2x/clear/

i am lacking in finishing knowledge and skills and found this out the hard way

Recoat: Within 1 hour or after 48 hours

I was not recoating within an hour and was not waiting 48 so sanding
was bad

i have it worked out now and it is a nice hard finish

On 10/12/2015 12:18 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
next to this on the shelf was acrylic lacquer

this stuff didn't have any general classification and i asked the young fellow
and he was very confident but eventually admitted he did not know

i am calling it acrylic enamel

http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...over-2x/clear/

i am lacking in finishing knowledge and skills and found this out the hard way

Recoat: Within 1 hour or after 48 hours

I was not recoating within an hour and was not waiting 48 so sanding
was bad

i have it worked out now and it is a nice hard finish



Yea , with rustoleum products, if you don't do b4 1 hour or after 48,
you wind up with the gassing off causing a really poor finish. I did it
one time and found out too.

Just follow the directions and your fine.

I don't use painters touch, but use rustoleum. Dries nice and hard too
over time.


--
Jeff

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:45:50 -0400
woodchucker wrote:

Yea , with rustoleum products, if you don't do b4 1 hour or after 48,
you wind up with the gassing off causing a really poor finish. I did
it one time and found out too.

i was ending up producing small balls when i sanded instead of dust


Just follow the directions and your fine.

the writing is in at least two languages and is tiny so i wing it

I don't use painters touch, but use rustoleum. Dries nice and hard
too over time.

this is rustoleum

Electric Comet wrote in
:

i am calling it acrylic enamel

Rustoleum appears to call it "Acrylic Modified Alkyd", so
I'd say you're close enough to right.

Going off on a tangent, has everyone noticed how useless
Google has become as a search engine? Pretty much any
query will give you a thousand places to buy whatever it
is, but actually getting a link that describes a thing
is now all but impossible.

John

On 10/12/2015 3:35 PM, John McCoy wrote:
Electric Comet wrote in
:

i am calling it acrylic enamel

Rustoleum appears to call it "Acrylic Modified Alkyd", so
I'd say you're close enough to right.

Going off on a tangent, has everyone noticed how useless
Google has become as a search engine? Pretty much any
query will give you a thousand places to buy whatever it
is, but actually getting a link that describes a thing
is now all but impossible.

I usually use Dogpile.com for my search engine. If you're looking for
product descriptions and reviews, Amazon.com does a decent job. For
descriptions including product specs, I'd try the manufacturer's website.

On 10/12/2015 4:51 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:45:50 -0400
woodchucker wrote:

Yea , with rustoleum products, if you don't do b4 1 hour or after 48,
you wind up with the gassing off causing a really poor finish. I did
it one time and found out too.

i was ending up producing small balls when i sanded instead of dust


Just follow the directions and your fine.

the writing is in at least two languages and is tiny so i wing it

I don't use painters touch, but use rustoleum. Dries nice and hard
too over time.

this is rustoleum


it's rustoleum in that it's from the same company. But Rustoleum is oil
based, and what you are using is not.

you need to sand the stuff with a lubricant. Either soapy water, or
something like sikkens m600 paint prep. But I would never sand soon
after. It needs to cure.


--
Jeff

On 10/12/2015 5:35 PM, John McCoy wrote:
Electric Comet wrote in
:

i am calling it acrylic enamel

Rustoleum appears to call it "Acrylic Modified Alkyd", so
I'd say you're close enough to right.

Going off on a tangent, has everyone noticed how useless
Google has become as a search engine? Pretty much any
query will give you a thousand places to buy whatever it
is, but actually getting a link that describes a thing
is now all but impossible.

John

Swingman turned me on to Duck Duck go, I have never looked back.
Just like when I found Google b4 the masses. It was good back then.
When you find something that works, use it.

--
Jeff

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:45:50 -0400, woodchucker
wrote:

On 10/12/2015 12:18 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
next to this on the shelf was acrylic lacquer

this stuff didn't have any general classification and i asked the young fellow
and he was very confident but eventually admitted he did not know

i am calling it acrylic enamel

http://www.rustoleum.com/product-cat...over-2x/clear/

i am lacking in finishing knowledge and skills and found this out the hard way

Recoat: Within 1 hour or after 48 hours

I was not recoating within an hour and was not waiting 48 so sanding
was bad

i have it worked out now and it is a nice hard finish



Yea , with rustoleum products, if you don't do b4 1 hour or after 48,
you wind up with the gassing off causing a really poor finish. I did it
one time and found out too.

Just follow the directions and your fine.

I don't use painters touch, but use rustoleum. Dries nice and hard too
over time.

On a completely different tangent, the Rustoleum plant in Evanston
Illinois, was sold to Home Depot. I was living in that city at the
time, about 6 months after big orange opened they had to drive piles
inside of the building cause of all the crap Rustoleum buried on the
property. Later they were building a Steak and Shake in the parking
lot two days before opening all four walls collapsed.

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:35:17 +0000 (UTC)
John McCoy wrote:

Electric Comet wrote in
:

i am calling it acrylic enamel

Rustoleum appears to call it "Acrylic Modified Alkyd", so
I'd say you're close enough to right.

now i wonder if that kid at the store cares enough to also look it up

Going off on a tangent, has everyone noticed how useless
Google has become as a search engine? Pretty much any
query will give you a thousand places to buy whatever it
is, but actually getting a link that describes a thing
is now all but impossible.

have not used google in a long time

ixquick.com
startpage.com
and others that were mentioned

Electric Comet wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:45:50 -0400
woodchucker wrote:

Yea , with rustoleum products, if you don't do b4 1 hour or after 48,
you wind up with the gassing off causing a really poor finish. I did
it one time and found out too.

i was ending up producing small balls when i sanded instead of dust

If you recoat too soon the solvents in the new coat soften/eat/reticulate
the old coat. When it IS dry enought to sand, use silicon carbide paper wet
on a sanding block.

Just follow the directions and your fine.

the writing is in at least two languages and is tiny so i wing it

You don't have a magnifying glass?

"dadiOH" wrote in :

Electric Comet wrote:

the writing is in at least two languages and is tiny so i wing it

You don't have a magnifying glass?

In fairness to the Comet, magnifying glasses work much
better on flat surfaces than they do on cylinders such as
the spray can he's using.

John

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:58:52 -0400
woodchucker wrote:

something like sikkens m600 paint prep. But I would never sand soon
after. It needs to cure.

it does not like sanding until couple of days later but i got it for the
2x coverage

1 can does go a long away and it is cheap