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Brush Cleaning after Polyurethane
On Tuesday, January 25, 2000 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, J-P wrote:
I know this question is pretty basic but I figure it'll save me an expensive paint (poly-oil base) brush. How do you go about cleaning your expensive paint brushes after using them (to get maximum life out of them). Thanks J-P Tampa, FL OMG What a sloppy job I did on my 1st attempt at posting on this site. I meant SOAK the brush not OAK it, and use acetone-based nail polish REMOVER not the nail polish itself. Sooo sorry if you painted the town red with your brush =D Gerberry |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in
: I think you'll find quart and gallon cans of acetone from Home Depot to be cheaper than nail polish remover. Lacquer thinner also works well (it's typically acetone and toluene). Note that lacquer thinner is a different substance from ordinary paint thinner. MEK is another option. Those compounds are all on my "read the MSDS first" list. They're safe if handled correctly, but can be hazardous if you're not careful. A MSDS is usually easily found by typing /Product Name/ MSDS. (MSDS stands for Manufacturer's Safety Data Sheet.) Puckdropper -- Make it to fit, don't make it fit. |
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Right - wear maybe purple gloves and black chemical ones on top.
Some of these 'solvents' dissolve lots of stuff. Use a metal can or bucket. Martin On 9/21/2015 7:43 PM, Puckdropper wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in : I think you'll find quart and gallon cans of acetone from Home Depot to be cheaper than nail polish remover. Lacquer thinner also works well (it's typically acetone and toluene). Note that lacquer thinner is a different substance from ordinary paint thinner. MEK is another option. Those compounds are all on my "read the MSDS first" list. They're safe if handled correctly, but can be hazardous if you're not careful. A MSDS is usually easily found by typing /Product Name/ MSDS. (MSDS stands for Manufacturer's Safety Data Sheet.) Puckdropper |
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Puckdropper says... "J. Clarke" wrote in : I think you'll find quart and gallon cans of acetone from Home Depot to be cheaper than nail polish remover. Lacquer thinner also works well (it's typically acetone and toluene). Note that lacquer thinner is a different substance from ordinary paint thinner. MEK is another option. Those compounds are all on my "read the MSDS first" list. They're safe if handled correctly, but can be hazardous if you're not careful. A MSDS is usually easily found by typing /Product Name/ MSDS. (MSDS stands for Manufacturer's Safety Data Sheet.) Same is true for the nail polish remover that he was already using. |
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In article ,
says... 1. they used a small amount and it was banned. Who used a small amount and what was banned and where? If you're talking about nail polish removeer and acetone, nail polish remover is typically 70+ percent acetone. According to the CVS web site, "CVS Advanced Nail Polish Remover, Acai Breeze" is "available" (in other words in stock) at their West Hollywood location and the half dozen or so surrounding stores which show up when one plugs 90210 into their locator. According to the product description and list of ingredients, that product is 96 percent acetone, hardly "a small amount" and if it's not "banned" in California it's not likely to be banned anywhere in the US. As a double check, the Home Depot in Hollywood has over 300 gallons of acetone in stock. The new stuff stinks differently. What "new stuff"? If you're talking about nail polish remover, the "new stuff" uses ethyl acetate, which if you check the MSDS you will find has roughly the same toxicity as acetone. If you need "purple gloves and black chemical ones on top" to use acetone then you need them for ethyl acetate. The reason "the new stuff" is on the market is that acetone will dissolve the glue used to attach artificial nails, while ethyl acetate will not. It has nothing to do with safety or with "bans". Note that you used to be able to get ethyl acetate in gallons at Home Depot as "MEK Substitute" but it has been discontinued. And the "low VOC lacquer thinner" is nearly pure acetone. 2. the volume of chemical makes all the difference. Which has what relevance to acetone? I would not discourage anyone from using acetone, but "you need purple gloves and black chemical ones on top" is just pointless fear-mongering. On 9/22/2015 2:55 AM, J. Clarke wrote: In article , says... Right - wear maybe purple gloves and black chemical ones on top. Some of these 'solvents' dissolve lots of stuff. Use a metal can or bucket. You just have to know your plastics and your solvents. Polyethylene containers work fine. And that one needs purple gloves and black chemical ones on top to work with acetone would be news to, well, most women. Ditto lacquer thinner and most painters. And MEK and just about anybody who works in industry. Martin On 9/21/2015 7:43 PM, Puckdropper wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in : I think you'll find quart and gallon cans of acetone from Home Depot to be cheaper than nail polish remover. Lacquer thinner also works well (it's typically acetone and toluene). Note that lacquer thinner is a different substance from ordinary paint thinner. MEK is another option. Those compounds are all on my "read the MSDS first" list. They're safe if handled correctly, but can be hazardous if you're not careful. A MSDS is usually easily found by typing /Product Name/ MSDS. (MSDS stands for Manufacturer's Safety Data Sheet.) Puckdropper |
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On 9/23/2015 1:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
snip The new stuff stinks differently. What "new stuff"? If you're talking about nail polish remover, the "new stuff" uses ethyl acetate, which if you check the MSDS you will find has roughly the same toxicity as acetone. If you need "purple gloves and black chemical ones on top" to use acetone then you need them for ethyl acetate. The reason "the new stuff" is on the market is that acetone will dissolve the glue used to attach artificial nails, while ethyl acetate will not. It has nothing to do with safety or with "bans". ;~) I hope no one gets the wrong idea... My wife has her nails done regularly and has done so for 20+ years. I have often asked her about getting solvents from my shop on her nails. Many of them would soften/dissolve the paint. Anyway I'm under the impression that those places don't apply artificial nails these days, I could be wrong. The new gel coatings that they use will build up quickly and are dried with UV light IIRC. And no longer do they chip or soften with the stuff in my shop. |
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In article , J.
Clarke wrote: In article , says... Right - wear maybe purple gloves and black chemical ones on top. Some of these 'solvents' dissolve lots of stuff. Use a metal can or bucket. You just have to know your plastics and your solvents. Polyethylene containers work fine. And that one needs purple gloves and black chemical ones on top to work with acetone would be news to, well, most women. Ditto lacquer thinner and most painters. And MEK and just about anybody who works in industry. Acetone is made by the human body: ..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone Second paragraph. Joe Gwinn Martin On 9/21/2015 7:43 PM, Puckdropper wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in : I think you'll find quart and gallon cans of acetone from Home Depot to be cheaper than nail polish remover. Lacquer thinner also works well (it's typically acetone and toluene). Note that lacquer thinner is a different substance from ordinary paint thinner. MEK is another option. Those compounds are all on my "read the MSDS first" list. They're safe if handled correctly, but can be hazardous if you're not careful. A MSDS is usually easily found by typing /Product Name/ MSDS. (MSDS stands for Manufacturer's Safety Data Sheet.) Puckdropper |
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Nail polish remover is not acetone anymore. Maybe where you live, but
not here. One buys acetone at the paint store or Home Depot. The stuff in the tiny bottles for women isn't acetone. The consistency is different. It doesn't dissolve paint like it did before, but works slowly on the fingernail polish. Martin On 9/23/2015 1:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote: In article , says... 1. they used a small amount and it was banned. Who used a small amount and what was banned and where? If you're talking about nail polish removeer and acetone, nail polish remover is typically 70+ percent acetone. According to the CVS web site, "CVS Advanced Nail Polish Remover, Acai Breeze" is "available" (in other words in stock) at their West Hollywood location and the half dozen or so surrounding stores which show up when one plugs 90210 into their locator. According to the product description and list of ingredients, that product is 96 percent acetone, hardly "a small amount" and if it's not "banned" in California it's not likely to be banned anywhere in the US. As a double check, the Home Depot in Hollywood has over 300 gallons of acetone in stock. The new stuff stinks differently. What "new stuff"? If you're talking about nail polish remover, the "new stuff" uses ethyl acetate, which if you check the MSDS you will find has roughly the same toxicity as acetone. If you need "purple gloves and black chemical ones on top" to use acetone then you need them for ethyl acetate. The reason "the new stuff" is on the market is that acetone will dissolve the glue used to attach artificial nails, while ethyl acetate will not. It has nothing to do with safety or with "bans". Note that you used to be able to get ethyl acetate in gallons at Home Depot as "MEK Substitute" but it has been discontinued. And the "low VOC lacquer thinner" is nearly pure acetone. 2. the volume of chemical makes all the difference. Which has what relevance to acetone? I would not discourage anyone from using acetone, but "you need purple gloves and black chemical ones on top" is just pointless fear-mongering. On 9/22/2015 2:55 AM, J. Clarke wrote: In article , says... Right - wear maybe purple gloves and black chemical ones on top. Some of these 'solvents' dissolve lots of stuff. Use a metal can or bucket. You just have to know your plastics and your solvents. Polyethylene containers work fine. And that one needs purple gloves and black chemical ones on top to work with acetone would be news to, well, most women. Ditto lacquer thinner and most painters. And MEK and just about anybody who works in industry. Martin On 9/21/2015 7:43 PM, Puckdropper wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in : I think you'll find quart and gallon cans of acetone from Home Depot to be cheaper than nail polish remover. Lacquer thinner also works well (it's typically acetone and toluene). Note that lacquer thinner is a different substance from ordinary paint thinner. MEK is another option. Those compounds are all on my "read the MSDS first" list. They're safe if handled correctly, but can be hazardous if you're not careful. A MSDS is usually easily found by typing /Product Name/ MSDS. (MSDS stands for Manufacturer's Safety Data Sheet.) Puckdropper |
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Read the bottom section - how it can kill you if you breathe it....
It isn't innocent and should be treated with caution. 'half life of 10 days in the air'..... Martin On 9/24/2015 8:35 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote: In article , J. Clarke wrote: In article , says... Right - wear maybe purple gloves and black chemical ones on top. Some of these 'solvents' dissolve lots of stuff. Use a metal can or bucket. You just have to know your plastics and your solvents. Polyethylene containers work fine. And that one needs purple gloves and black chemical ones on top to work with acetone would be news to, well, most women. Ditto lacquer thinner and most painters. And MEK and just about anybody who works in industry. Acetone is made by the human body: .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone Second paragraph. Joe Gwinn Martin On 9/21/2015 7:43 PM, Puckdropper wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in : I think you'll find quart and gallon cans of acetone from Home Depot to be cheaper than nail polish remover. Lacquer thinner also works well (it's typically acetone and toluene). Note that lacquer thinner is a different substance from ordinary paint thinner. MEK is another option. Those compounds are all on my "read the MSDS first" list. They're safe if handled correctly, but can be hazardous if you're not careful. A MSDS is usually easily found by typing /Product Name/ MSDS. (MSDS stands for Manufacturer's Safety Data Sheet.) Puckdropper |
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In article ,
says... Nail polish remover is not acetone anymore. Maybe where you live, but not here. One buys acetone at the paint store or Home Depot. The stuff in the tiny bottles for women isn't acetone. The consistency is different. It doesn't dissolve paint like it did before, but works slowly on the fingernail polish. So why does http://www.cvs.com/shop/beauty/makeu.../cvs-advanced- nail-polish-remover-juniper-burst-skuid-949209 claim 96 percent acetone? How about http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/studio-35-beauty- 100-acetone-nail-polish-remover/ID=prod6237803-product claiming 100% acetone? Just because you bought one kind doesn't mean that the other kind is not available. Of course if you don't live in the US then all bets are off. On 9/23/2015 1:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote: In article , says... 1. they used a small amount and it was banned. Who used a small amount and what was banned and where? If you're talking about nail polish removeer and acetone, nail polish remover is typically 70+ percent acetone. According to the CVS web site, "CVS Advanced Nail Polish Remover, Acai Breeze" is "available" (in other words in stock) at their West Hollywood location and the half dozen or so surrounding stores which show up when one plugs 90210 into their locator. According to the product description and list of ingredients, that product is 96 percent acetone, hardly "a small amount" and if it's not "banned" in California it's not likely to be banned anywhere in the US. As a double check, the Home Depot in Hollywood has over 300 gallons of acetone in stock. The new stuff stinks differently. What "new stuff"? If you're talking about nail polish remover, the "new stuff" uses ethyl acetate, which if you check the MSDS you will find has roughly the same toxicity as acetone. If you need "purple gloves and black chemical ones on top" to use acetone then you need them for ethyl acetate. The reason "the new stuff" is on the market is that acetone will dissolve the glue used to attach artificial nails, while ethyl acetate will not. It has nothing to do with safety or with "bans". Note that you used to be able to get ethyl acetate in gallons at Home Depot as "MEK Substitute" but it has been discontinued. And the "low VOC lacquer thinner" is nearly pure acetone. 2. the volume of chemical makes all the difference. Which has what relevance to acetone? I would not discourage anyone from using acetone, but "you need purple gloves and black chemical ones on top" is just pointless fear-mongering. On 9/22/2015 2:55 AM, J. Clarke wrote: In article , says... Right - wear maybe purple gloves and black chemical ones on top. Some of these 'solvents' dissolve lots of stuff. Use a metal can or bucket. You just have to know your plastics and your solvents. Polyethylene containers work fine. And that one needs purple gloves and black chemical ones on top to work with acetone would be news to, well, most women. Ditto lacquer thinner and most painters. And MEK and just about anybody who works in industry. Martin On 9/21/2015 7:43 PM, Puckdropper wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in : I think you'll find quart and gallon cans of acetone from Home Depot to be cheaper than nail polish remover. Lacquer thinner also works well (it's typically acetone and toluene). Note that lacquer thinner is a different substance from ordinary paint thinner. MEK is another option. Those compounds are all on my "read the MSDS first" list. They're safe if handled correctly, but can be hazardous if you're not careful. A MSDS is usually easily found by typing /Product Name/ MSDS. (MSDS stands for Manufacturer's Safety Data Sheet.) Puckdropper |
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In article ,
says... Read the bottom section - how it can kill you if you breathe it.... It isn't innocent and should be treated with caution. 'half life of 10 days in the air'..... Oxygen can kill you if you breathe it too. Perhaps you should avoid it. Martin On 9/24/2015 8:35 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote: In article , J. Clarke wrote: In article , says... Right - wear maybe purple gloves and black chemical ones on top. Some of these 'solvents' dissolve lots of stuff. Use a metal can or bucket. You just have to know your plastics and your solvents. Polyethylene containers work fine. And that one needs purple gloves and black chemical ones on top to work with acetone would be news to, well, most women. Ditto lacquer thinner and most painters. And MEK and just about anybody who works in industry. Acetone is made by the human body: .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone Second paragraph. Joe Gwinn Martin On 9/21/2015 7:43 PM, Puckdropper wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in : I think you'll find quart and gallon cans of acetone from Home Depot to be cheaper than nail polish remover. Lacquer thinner also works well (it's typically acetone and toluene). Note that lacquer thinner is a different substance from ordinary paint thinner. MEK is another option. Those compounds are all on my "read the MSDS first" list. They're safe if handled correctly, but can be hazardous if you're not careful. A MSDS is usually easily found by typing /Product Name/ MSDS. (MSDS stands for Manufacturer's Safety Data Sheet.) Puckdropper |
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