I was supposed to have a phone interview this morning at 10:30.

No one called to cancel, no one called for the interview.
All attempts to reach the person who arranged the interview have failed.

So much for common courtesy.




--
Jeff

woodchucker wrote:
I was supposed to have a phone interview this morning at 10:30.

No one called to cancel, no one called for the interview.
All attempts to reach the person who arranged the interview have failed.

So much for common courtesy.


I would be trying to call someone's boss. It was probably an
oversight...Monday morning.. Maybe someone called in sick.
Good luck! Don't thrown the hand in yet. Play it (if you're willing to
work for them).

Bill

I've had situations like that.

The first thing I would ask is, was it HR or not? Is the shop even big enough to have an HR department. Regardless, following up with management is a great idea, if it's an option.

On Mon, 12 May 2014 11:29:40 -0400, woodchucker
wrote:

I was supposed to have a phone interview this morning at 10:30.

No one called to cancel, no one called for the interview.
All attempts to reach the person who arranged the interview have failed.

So much for common courtesy.

Things haven't changed much in 40 years.

Long ago I called AT&T about a "hiring" ad that was in the local
paper. The people at that number didn't know there was an ad running.
The ad was placed by their HR department which was 400 miles away and
no one bothered to call and let them know.

The ad ran again a few weeks later and this time the person who
answered the call knew they were hiring. Went for the interview and
then spent 32 years with them.

Right hand... meet left hand. How are you today?

On 5/12/2014 4:13 PM, wrote:

So much for common courtesy.

Things haven't changed much in 40 years.

Long ago I called AT&T about a "hiring" ad that was in the local
paper. The people at that number didn't know there was an ad running.
The ad was placed by their HR department which was 400 miles away and
no one bothered to call and let them know.

The ad ran again a few weeks later and this time the person who
answered the call knew they were hiring. Went for the interview and
then spent 32 years with them.



At least your first call to them gave you fair warning of what to expect
for the next 32 years...

On 5/12/2014 11:29 AM, woodchucker wrote:
I was supposed to have a phone interview this morning at 10:30.

No one called to cancel, no one called for the interview.
All attempts to reach the person who arranged the interview have failed.

So much for common courtesy.





Well last night around 5 I made contact with the person who setup the
interview. They were sorry and wanted to reschedule for 10:30pm... I
said that's pretty late... ...no,no I meant am.. Ok 10:30am is good...

Stood up again.

--
Jeff

On 5/13/2014 11:05 AM, woodchucker wrote:
On 5/12/2014 11:29 AM, woodchucker wrote:
I was supposed to have a phone interview this morning at 10:30.

No one called to cancel, no one called for the interview.
All attempts to reach the person who arranged the interview have failed.

So much for common courtesy.





Well last night around 5 I made contact with the person who setup the
interview. They were sorry and wanted to reschedule for 10:30pm... I
said that's pretty late... ...no,no I meant am.. Ok 10:30am is good...

Stood up again.


Makes you wonder if you really want to work there, but it may only be
one idiot.

On Mon, 12 May 2014 23:07:42 -0400, Larry Kraus
wrote:

On 5/12/2014 4:13 PM, wrote:

So much for common courtesy.

Things haven't changed much in 40 years.

Long ago I called AT&T about a "hiring" ad that was in the local
paper. The people at that number didn't know there was an ad running.
The ad was placed by their HR department which was 400 miles away and
no one bothered to call and let them know.

The ad ran again a few weeks later and this time the person who
answered the call knew they were hiring. Went for the interview and
then spent 32 years with them.



At least your first call to them gave you fair warning of what to expect
for the next 32 years...

And I knew when to leave - the early retirement offer that year was
the first I was eligible for and better than all the following years.
I've "retired" 3 (or is it 4?) more times from other jobs since -
never me looking for work, just work that someone came asking me to
do. It's nice to have skills that are needed enough that someone will
pay an hourly rate for your time ;-)

I was supposed to have a phone interview this morning at 10:30.
No one called to cancel, no one called for the interview.
All attempts to reach the person who arranged the interview have failed.
So much for common courtesy.


... maybe this was your interview .. ?
Good luck the rest of the way.
John T.





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On Tue, 13 May 2014 14:42:31 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/13/2014 11:05 AM, woodchucker wrote:
On 5/12/2014 11:29 AM, woodchucker wrote:
I was supposed to have a phone interview this morning at 10:30.

No one called to cancel, no one called for the interview.
All attempts to reach the person who arranged the interview have failed.

So much for common courtesy.





Well last night around 5 I made contact with the person who setup the
interview. They were sorry and wanted to reschedule for 10:30pm... I
said that's pretty late... ...no,no I meant am.. Ok 10:30am is good...

Stood up again.


Makes you wonder if you really want to work there, but it may only be
one idiot.
That's generally about all it takes - - - .

On Tue, 13 May 2014 12:35:27 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 13 May 2014 11:05:09 -0400, woodchucker
wrote:

On 5/12/2014 11:29 AM, woodchucker wrote:
I was supposed to have a phone interview this morning at 10:30.

No one called to cancel, no one called for the interview.
All attempts to reach the person who arranged the interview have failed.

So much for common courtesy.





Well last night around 5 I made contact with the person who setup the
interview. They were sorry and wanted to reschedule for 10:30pm... I
said that's pretty late... ...no,no I meant am.. Ok 10:30am is good...

Stood up again.

I'd be calling his boss about now, figuring the job was a lost
cause anyhow. I'd ask the boss if this is how they scheduled
jobs.
Mabee the clown IS the boss????

I'd be calling his boss about now, figuring the job was a lost
cause anyhow. I'd ask the boss if this is how they scheduled
jobs.


.. then again, maybe this is all part of the interview ?

... seeing how you handle difficult & changing conditions ?
how you communicate ? how you re-align your schedule ?
.... how much you really want this job !
just a thought ..
Don't burn too many bridges, too fast.
Good luck.
John T.



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On 5/13/2014 5:24 PM, wrote:


I'd be calling his boss about now, figuring the job was a lost
cause anyhow. I'd ask the boss if this is how they scheduled
jobs.


.. then again, maybe this is all part of the interview ?

.. seeing how you handle difficult & changing conditions ?
how you communicate ? how you re-align your schedule ?
.... how much you really want this job !
just a thought ..
Don't burn too many bridges, too fast.
Good luck.
John T.

Personally I would never want to work for a company that plays these
type games. Been there and done that. If this is the interview
technique rest assured that normal is going to be this way too and you
will never be able to make a decision without having doubt.

On 5/13/2014 6:24 PM, wrote:


I'd be calling his boss about now, figuring the job was a lost
cause anyhow. I'd ask the boss if this is how they scheduled
jobs.


.. then again, maybe this is all part of the interview ?

.. seeing how you handle difficult & changing conditions ?
how you communicate ? how you re-align your schedule ?
.... how much you really want this job !
just a thought ..
Don't burn too many bridges, too fast.
Good luck.
John T.



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I'm not burning any bridges. I am right now starting to envision
traveling 2.5 hours again each way if this doesn't pan out. So I am
anxious to have this one work.

I once had an interview where the manager interviewed me, then he
brought in a bunch of people and they got really rough and started
yelling at me and screaming, many at once... I realized it was a high
pressure interview designed to see where I cracked.

They offered me the position.I refused. They then offered me a position
above that position. Again I refused. My wife and I reasoned that them
bringing in lunch everyday, a hot cart of 7 gourmet meals and the
interview meant they wanted my life.. No leaving for lunch, not
weekends. It was a finance, and I was in finance at the time. I did not
like many of the people in the industry. I found they were not REAL
people. Lots of backstabbing and strategizing on how to get ahead or
over someone.

--
Jeff

Leon wrote:
On 5/13/2014 5:24 PM, wrote:


I'd be calling his boss about now, figuring the job was a lost
cause anyhow. I'd ask the boss if this is how they scheduled
jobs.


.. then again, maybe this is all part of the interview ?

.. seeing how you handle difficult & changing conditions ?
how you communicate ? how you re-align your schedule ?
.... how much you really want this job !
just a thought ..
Don't burn too many bridges, too fast.
Good luck.
John T.

Personally I would never want to work for a company that plays these
type games. Been there and done that. If this is the interview
technique rest assured that normal is going to be this way too and you
will never be able to make a decision without having doubt.

Echo that...

--

-Mike-

On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:42:24 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 5:24 PM, wrote:


I'd be calling his boss about now, figuring the job was a lost
cause anyhow. I'd ask the boss if this is how they scheduled
jobs.


.. then again, maybe this is all part of the interview ?

.. seeing how you handle difficult & changing conditions ?
how you communicate ? how you re-align your schedule ?
.... how much you really want this job !
just a thought ..
Don't burn too many bridges, too fast.
Good luck.
John T.

Personally I would never want to work for a company that plays these
type games. Been there and done that. If this is the interview
technique rest assured that normal is going to be this way too and you
will never be able to make a decision without having doubt.
Guy's last name isn't Hedges by chance???

woodchucker wrote in
:

I was supposed to have a phone interview this morning at 10:30.

No one called to cancel, no one called for the interview.
All attempts to reach the person who arranged the interview have failed.

So much for common courtesy.

(Somewhat) related story. I was laid off on 3/11 from the company I had
been with for 35 years. I reinterviewed on 4/5 for one of two an
essentially similar positions at a lower grade for what I was doing before.
Told I was the 'top candidate' and a decision would be made within the
week. Since then they keep telling me I'm still the 'top candidate',
they've stopped giving me decision dates, and won't give a firm yes or no.
at this point I'm assuming the answer is no. Meanwhile they've already made
an offer on the other open position at the same level. Hmm
call me 'tired of waiting'.

On 5/14/2014 10:30 AM, xxxx wrote:
woodchucker wrote in
:

I was supposed to have a phone interview this morning at 10:30.

No one called to cancel, no one called for the interview.
All attempts to reach the person who arranged the interview have failed.

So much for common courtesy.

(Somewhat) related story. I was laid off on 3/11 from the company I had
been with for 35 years. I reinterviewed on 4/5 for one of two an
essentially similar positions at a lower grade for what I was doing before.
Told I was the 'top candidate' and a decision would be made within the
week. Since then they keep telling me I'm still the 'top candidate',
they've stopped giving me decision dates, and won't give a firm yes or no.
at this point I'm assuming the answer is no. Meanwhile they've already made
an offer on the other open position at the same level. Hmm
call me 'tired of waiting'.


Looks like I am being stood up again. This person must be sick... or
they are just jerking me around.

--
Jeff

On 5/14/2014 10:38 AM, woodchucker wrote:
On 5/14/2014 10:30 AM, xxxx wrote:
woodchucker wrote in
:

I was supposed to have a phone interview this morning at 10:30.

No one called to cancel, no one called for the interview.
All attempts to reach the person who arranged the interview have failed.

So much for common courtesy.

(Somewhat) related story. I was laid off on 3/11 from the company I had
been with for 35 years. I reinterviewed on 4/5 for one of two an
essentially similar positions at a lower grade for what I was doing
before.
Told I was the 'top candidate' and a decision would be made within the
week. Since then they keep telling me I'm still the 'top candidate',
they've stopped giving me decision dates, and won't give a firm yes or
no.
at this point I'm assuming the answer is no. Meanwhile they've already
made
an offer on the other open position at the same level. Hmm
call me 'tired of waiting'.


Looks like I am being stood up again. This person must be sick... or
they are just jerking me around.



At this point I guess you can say I was stood up again.
I wonder if the position is still open :-(.

I'm missing the old days. I am a dinosaur.

--
Jeff

woodchucker wrote in
:



At this point I guess you can say I was stood up again.
I wonder if the position is still open :-(.

I'm missing the old days. I am a dinosaur.


Sometimes I've found when I want something done, I need to talk to "the
man" in person. It doesn't always get the desired results, but does often
resolve things.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On 5/14/2014 11:26 AM, woodchucker wrote:


(Somewhat) related story. I was laid off on 3/11 from the company I had
been with for 35 years. I reinterviewed on 4/5 for one of two an
essentially similar positions at a lower grade for what I was doing
before.

Glad I never had to work for a company like that. After 35 years, there
should be no interviewing and no layoff if another position was
available now or in the next few months.

I'm guessing it is a big organization. Most small companies don't
"interview" existing employees, we all know each other and our
abilities. After 35 years, you don't treat experienced, valuable
employees like a new hire.

I'm working at the last job I'll ever have and can stay as long as I
want. Been here 25 years.

On 5/14/2014 3:35 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/14/2014 11:26 AM, woodchucker wrote:


(Somewhat) related story. I was laid off on 3/11 from the company I had
been with for 35 years. I reinterviewed on 4/5 for one of two an
essentially similar positions at a lower grade for what I was doing
before.

Glad I never had to work for a company like that. After 35 years, there
should be no interviewing and no layoff if another position was
available now or in the next few months.

I'm guessing it is a big organization. Most small companies don't
"interview" existing employees, we all know each other and our
abilities. After 35 years, you don't treat experienced, valuable
employees like a new hire.

I'm working at the last job I'll ever have and can stay as long as I
want. Been here 25 years.

Most big companies you have to interview with the other interested party.
The goal is to hire from within, but that does not guarantee it. Some
managers prefer to go outside, but most don't

I just got in touch with my interviewer. Finally.
what an air head.


I called the person who kept setting up the interview, they told me she
tried getting in touch with me. Anyway we were hooked up.

She called someone elses number, thought it was odd that the voicemail
recording said David.... but left the message.

I said I had been home and no one called. The number that she read was
not my number... 1st ding.
2nd ding was David instead of Jeff.
3rd ding was when she asked if I had experience with such and such... I
said NO.... she later asked again, and said that might be a show stopper.
So we continued on... She asked how long it would take me to get from
Philly to the job. I said I don't live in Philly. And where exactly is
the job, no one has provided any info. She gave me an address and then
asks So then you are coming from NY?

My address is on the resume... I can't believe how clueless this girl
is. This is definetly a first level HR person, with real little experience.

She tells me the name of the hiring manager and says to read up on his
bio.. And she'll forward him my resume.

Thank you.
Ding, Dong... anyone home.


--
Jeff

much snippage

Sometimes I've found when I want something done, I need to talk to "the
man" in person. It doesn't always get the desired results, but does often
resolve things.
Puckdropper


Yep - big time !
Voicemail message-tag ; third party communications ;
- and _especially_ emails ! -
.... seem to limit effective 2 way communications ..
The big corporate business types seem to believe that
1 way communication is all that is required.
John T.




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On 5/14/2014 2:46 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 5/14/2014 3:35 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/14/2014 11:26 AM, woodchucker wrote:


(Somewhat) related story. I was laid off on 3/11 from the company I
had
been with for 35 years. I reinterviewed on 4/5 for one of two an
essentially similar positions at a lower grade for what I was doing
before.

Glad I never had to work for a company like that. After 35 years, there
should be no interviewing and no layoff if another position was
available now or in the next few months.

I'm guessing it is a big organization. Most small companies don't
"interview" existing employees, we all know each other and our
abilities. After 35 years, you don't treat experienced, valuable
employees like a new hire.

I'm working at the last job I'll ever have and can stay as long as I
want. Been here 25 years.

Most big companies you have to interview with the other interested party.
The goal is to hire from within, but that does not guarantee it. Some
managers prefer to go outside, but most don't

I just got in touch with my interviewer. Finally.
what an air head.


I called the person who kept setting up the interview, they told me she
tried getting in touch with me. Anyway we were hooked up.

She called someone elses number, thought it was odd that the voicemail
recording said David.... but left the message.

I said I had been home and no one called. The number that she read was
not my number... 1st ding.
2nd ding was David instead of Jeff.
3rd ding was when she asked if I had experience with such and such... I
said NO.... she later asked again, and said that might be a show stopper.
So we continued on... She asked how long it would take me to get from
Philly to the job. I said I don't live in Philly. And where exactly is
the job, no one has provided any info. She gave me an address and then
asks So then you are coming from NY?

My address is on the resume... I can't believe how clueless this girl
is. This is definetly a first level HR person, with real little
experience.

She tells me the name of the hiring manager and says to read up on his
bio.. And she'll forward him my resume.

Thank you.
Ding, Dong... anyone home.


This should be your BIG RED WARNING FLAG!!! If this person is the
first line of people dealing with callers and you have been treated this
way for this long you do not want to work there. This is not just an HR
problem. There should have been even the simplest of policies to deal
with this.

On 5/14/2014 6:34 PM, Leon wrote:
On 5/14/2014 2:46 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 5/14/2014 3:35 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/14/2014 11:26 AM, woodchucker wrote:


(Somewhat) related story. I was laid off on 3/11 from the company I
had
been with for 35 years. I reinterviewed on 4/5 for one of two an
essentially similar positions at a lower grade for what I was doing
before.

Glad I never had to work for a company like that. After 35 years, there
should be no interviewing and no layoff if another position was
available now or in the next few months.

I'm guessing it is a big organization. Most small companies don't
"interview" existing employees, we all know each other and our
abilities. After 35 years, you don't treat experienced, valuable
employees like a new hire.

I'm working at the last job I'll ever have and can stay as long as I
want. Been here 25 years.

Most big companies you have to interview with the other interested party.
The goal is to hire from within, but that does not guarantee it. Some
managers prefer to go outside, but most don't

I just got in touch with my interviewer. Finally.
what an air head.


I called the person who kept setting up the interview, they told me she
tried getting in touch with me. Anyway we were hooked up.

She called someone elses number, thought it was odd that the voicemail
recording said David.... but left the message.

I said I had been home and no one called. The number that she read was
not my number... 1st ding.
2nd ding was David instead of Jeff.
3rd ding was when she asked if I had experience with such and such... I
said NO.... she later asked again, and said that might be a show stopper.
So we continued on... She asked how long it would take me to get from
Philly to the job. I said I don't live in Philly. And where exactly is
the job, no one has provided any info. She gave me an address and then
asks So then you are coming from NY?

My address is on the resume... I can't believe how clueless this girl
is. This is definetly a first level HR person, with real little
experience.

She tells me the name of the hiring manager and says to read up on his
bio.. And she'll forward him my resume.

Thank you.
Ding, Dong... anyone home.


This should be your BIG RED WARNING FLAG!!! If this person is the
first line of people dealing with callers and you have been treated this
way for this long you do not want to work there. This is not just an HR
problem. There should have been even the simplest of policies to deal
with this.

I am desperate for work. I'll keep looking, but I need the job. I have
worked for some of the worst people. I worked for a witch that loved
firing people... she got giddy. I heard she went through 85 people
before I came there. For some reason no one higher up ever thought it
was her... While I was there she went through quite a few. And twisted
a knife in and wiggled it a lot. So I can put up with a lot of ****,
while looking.
My wife ends work for the summer shortly, so no money will be coming in.
I need something.

--
Jeff

On 5/14/2014 8:48 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 5/14/2014 6:34 PM, Leon wrote:
On 5/14/2014 2:46 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 5/14/2014 3:35 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/14/2014 11:26 AM, woodchucker wrote:


(Somewhat) related story. I was laid off on 3/11 from the company I
had
been with for 35 years. I reinterviewed on 4/5 for one of two an
essentially similar positions at a lower grade for what I was doing
before.

Glad I never had to work for a company like that. After 35 years, there
should be no interviewing and no layoff if another position was
available now or in the next few months.

I'm guessing it is a big organization. Most small companies don't
"interview" existing employees, we all know each other and our
abilities. After 35 years, you don't treat experienced, valuable
employees like a new hire.

I'm working at the last job I'll ever have and can stay as long as I
want. Been here 25 years.

Most big companies you have to interview with the other interested
party.
The goal is to hire from within, but that does not guarantee it. Some
managers prefer to go outside, but most don't

I just got in touch with my interviewer. Finally.
what an air head.


I called the person who kept setting up the interview, they told me she
tried getting in touch with me. Anyway we were hooked up.

She called someone elses number, thought it was odd that the voicemail
recording said David.... but left the message.

I said I had been home and no one called. The number that she read was
not my number... 1st ding.
2nd ding was David instead of Jeff.
3rd ding was when she asked if I had experience with such and such... I
said NO.... she later asked again, and said that might be a show
stopper.
So we continued on... She asked how long it would take me to get from
Philly to the job. I said I don't live in Philly. And where exactly is
the job, no one has provided any info. She gave me an address and then
asks So then you are coming from NY?

My address is on the resume... I can't believe how clueless this girl
is. This is definetly a first level HR person, with real little
experience.

She tells me the name of the hiring manager and says to read up on his
bio.. And she'll forward him my resume.

Thank you.
Ding, Dong... anyone home.


This should be your BIG RED WARNING FLAG!!! If this person is the
first line of people dealing with callers and you have been treated this
way for this long you do not want to work there. This is not just an HR
problem. There should have been even the simplest of policies to deal
with this.

I am desperate for work. I'll keep looking, but I need the job. I have
worked for some of the worst people. I worked for a witch that loved
firing people... she got giddy. I heard she went through 85 people
before I came there. For some reason no one higher up ever thought it
was her... While I was there she went through quite a few. And twisted
a knife in and wiggled it a lot. So I can put up with a lot of ****,
while looking.
My wife ends work for the summer shortly, so no money will be coming in.
I need something.

Well good luck with what ever you choose to do. My last job was
similar, it got to where I flipped a coin to make a decision knowing
full well which was the correct choice and which was the dead wrong
choice.