On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:12:35 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

wrote:


They're not going to save a house that's fully engulfed. A fire chief
of a midsize city once told me that if they have to use more than
50gal of water on a house fire, it's a likely total loss. It's not
the fire that does the damage, rather the smoke and in particular, the
water. He guaranteed that if he emptied his pumper on a house it
would be totaled.

He might indeed have said that but if he did, he was wrong. I was a
firefighter for a lot of years.

He was a paid department chief, with over 20 years.

Entered a lot of buning buildings, and I
was a chief also. 50 gallons won't do squat.

It will wreck everything in the house, from the sheetrock right down
to the trusses. If he could get by with 50gal, it was salvageable. A
bigger fire, requiring more water, not so much.

We would easily dump a 1500
gallon TP to save a house. We had 2000 gallon tankers dumping into portable
ponds to back that up. We saved a lot of structures using thousands of
gallons of water. Yes - smoke damage is a big thing but they have cleanup
techonologies that address this - and have had for years. Both smoke and
water damage can be dealt with. You don't just dump all this water into the
structure. It's misted in (fogged in), to create steam to kill the fire.
There's much more to fighting fires than this guy would lead you to believe.

They carried 1000gal on the pumper. He guaranteed that the house
would be a total if he used it. It wasn't there for home fires.
Sorry, I'll take the word of someone I new (very well) over someone on
the Usenet.

wrote:


They're not going to save a house that's fully engulfed. A fire chief
of a midsize city once told me that if they have to use more than
50gal of water on a house fire, it's a likely total loss. It's not
the fire that does the damage, rather the smoke and in particular, the
water. He guaranteed that if he emptied his pumper on a house it
would be totaled.

He might indeed have said that but if he did, he was wrong. I was a
firefighter for a lot of years. Entered a lot of buning buildings, and I
was a chief also. 50 gallons won't do squat. We would easily dump a 1500
gallon TP to save a house. We had 2000 gallon tankers dumping into portable
ponds to back that up. We saved a lot of structures using thousands of
gallons of water. Yes - smoke damage is a big thing but they have cleanup
techonologies that address this - and have had for years. Both smoke and
water damage can be dealt with. You don't just dump all this water into the
structure. It's misted in (fogged in), to create steam to kill the fire.
There's much more to fighting fires than this guy would lead you to believe.

--

-Mike-

wrote:
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:12:35 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

wrote:


They're not going to save a house that's fully engulfed. A fire
chief of a midsize city once told me that if they have to use more
than 50gal of water on a house fire, it's a likely total loss.
It's not the fire that does the damage, rather the smoke and in
particular, the water. He guaranteed that if he emptied his pumper
on a house it would be totaled.

He might indeed have said that but if he did, he was wrong. I was a
firefighter for a lot of years.

He was a paid department chief, with over 20 years.

Entered a lot of buning buildings, and I
was a chief also. 50 gallons won't do squat.

It will wreck everything in the house, from the sheetrock right down
to the trusses. If he could get by with 50gal, it was salvageable. A
bigger fire, requiring more water, not so much.

We would easily dump a 1500
gallon TP to save a house. We had 2000 gallon tankers dumping into
portable ponds to back that up. We saved a lot of structures using
thousands of gallons of water. Yes - smoke damage is a big thing
but they have cleanup techonologies that address this - and have had
for years. Both smoke and water damage can be dealt with. You
don't just dump all this water into the structure. It's misted in
(fogged in), to create steam to kill the fire. There's much more to
fighting fires than this guy would lead you to believe.

They carried 1000gal on the pumper. He guaranteed that the house
would be a total if he used it. It wasn't there for home fires.
Sorry, I'll take the word of someone I new (very well) over someone on
the Usenet.

Certainly - that is your priviledge. I'll likewise defer to my own personal
experience.

--

-Mike-

On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 19:12:44 -0500, DanG wrote:

On 4/11/2014 2:26 PM, Michael wrote:
What's the secret to painting OSB so that it doesn't look like painted OSB? It doesn't have to be great, just not so cheap-looking.

Thanks.



Despite so many nay sayers, I have made several outstanding things from
MDF. Anywhere that it has been cut, routed, or is just the porous edge
will soak up paint forever, so the trick is to seal the cuts. Drywall
compound works. shellac and latex metal primer work well also. You do
need to sand the edges with fine paper. It takes paint beatifully.

I have done a few things in high gloss black that I defy you to tell
what I used
BIG difference between MDF and OSB. As different as balsa and oak .

I make models out of OSB. I find it can be cut thin to almost a veneer but before I do that I take a belt sander to it. The stuff kills saw blades but I sharpen them myself.

On 12/13/2017 2:14 PM, wrote:
I make models out of OSB. I find it can be cut thin to almost a veneer but before I do that I take a belt sander to it. The stuff kills saw blades but I sharpen them myself.


OK, do you have any pictures posted somewhere for us to look at? ;~)

On 12/13/2017 2:14 PM, wrote:
I make models out of OSB. I find it can be cut thin to almost a veneer but before I do that I take a belt sander to it. The stuff kills saw blades but I sharpen them myself.

Want to say fiber glass, epoxy and micro balloons ala Lew miss him.

On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:35:15 -0600, Markem
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 2:14 PM, wrote:
I make models out of OSB. I find it can be cut thin to almost a veneer but before I do that I take a belt sander to it. The stuff kills saw blades but I sharpen them myself.

Want to say fiber glass, epoxy and micro balloons ala Lew miss him.

Drywall compound or veneer - - -

On 12/13/17 7:54 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:35:15 -0600, Markem
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 2:14 PM, wrote:
I make models out of OSB. I find it can be cut thin to almost a veneer but before I do that I take a belt sander to it. The stuff kills saw blades but I sharpen them myself.

Want to say fiber glass, epoxy and micro balloons ala Lew miss him.

Drywall compound or veneer - - -


That's what I was about to write.
However, it seems like a whole lot of work to go through just to avoid
using the correct product to begin with. :-)


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 20:28:52 -0600, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 12/13/17 7:54 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:35:15 -0600, Markem
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 2:14 PM, wrote:
I make models out of OSB. I find it can be cut thin to almost a veneer but before I do that I take a belt sander to it. The stuff kills saw blades but I sharpen them myself.

Want to say fiber glass, epoxy and micro balloons ala Lew miss him.

Drywall compound or veneer - - -


That's what I was about to write.
However, it seems like a whole lot of work to go through just to avoid
using the correct product to begin with. :-)


Lipstick on a pig.

On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:26:44 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 20:28:52 -0600, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 12/13/17 7:54 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 17:35:15 -0600, Markem
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 2:14 PM, wrote:
I make models out of OSB. I find it can be cut thin to almost a veneer but before I do that I take a belt sander to it. The stuff kills saw blades but I sharpen them myself.

Want to say fiber glass, epoxy and micro balloons ala Lew miss him.

Drywall compound or veneer - - -


That's what I was about to write.
However, it seems like a whole lot of work to go through just to avoid
using the correct product to begin with. :-)


Lipstick on a pig.

Generally annoys the pig!

On 12/13/2017 5:35 PM, Markem wrote:
On 12/13/2017 2:14 PM, wrote:
I make models out of OSB. I find it can be cut thin to almost a veneer but before I do that I take a belt sander to it. The stuff kills saw blades but I sharpen them myself.

Want to say fiber glass, epoxy and micro balloons ala Lew miss him.


LOL. Did you get a question out of that post?

On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:58:32 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 5:35 PM, Markem wrote:
On 12/13/2017 2:14 PM, wrote:
I make models out of OSB. I find it can be cut thin to almost a veneer but before I do that I take a belt sander to it. The stuff kills saw blades but I sharpen them myself.

Want to say fiber glass, epoxy and micro balloons ala Lew miss him.


LOL. Did you get a question out of that post?
Only out of the subject line - - -

On 12/14/2017 9:42 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 08:58:32 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 12/13/2017 5:35 PM, Markem wrote:
On 12/13/2017 2:14 PM, wrote:
I make models out of OSB. I find it can be cut thin to almost a veneer but before I do that I take a belt sander to it. The stuff kills saw blades but I sharpen them myself.

Want to say fiber glass, epoxy and micro balloons ala Lew miss him.


LOL. Did you get a question out of that post?
Only out of the subject line - - -


LOL. Al thought followed with a Question mark, the title reads more
like a statement. ;~)

On 12/13/2017 3:29 PM, Leon wrote:
On 12/13/2017 2:14 PM, wrote:
I make models out of OSB. I find it can be cut thin to almost a veneer
but before I do that I take a belt sander to it. The stuff kills saw
blades but I sharpen them myself.


OK, do you have any pictures posted somewhere for us to look at?Â* ;~)

A good fire will usually do the job (but don't breath the fumes -- the glue
is nasty).

On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 6:28:56 PM UTC-8, -MIKE- wrote:
On 12/13/17 7:54 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:

Drywall compound or veneer - - -

That's what I was about to write.
However, it seems like a whole lot of work to go through just to avoid
using the correct product to begin with. :-)

Wallpaper is slightly less work.

The 'halfway decent' goal is a low bar,
.... but if you need to do it TWICE you've definitely got a bad plan