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What is NASA doing studying "The Collapse of Civilization"? I thought
they were supposed to be concentrating on their "Muslim Outreach" directive. Maybe the two are related? On 03/20/2014 07:11 AM, woodchucker wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...udy-scientists -- "Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" -Winston Churchill |
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On Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:11:36 AM UTC-5, woodchucker wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...udy-scientists -- Jeff From the link: It finds that according to the historical record even advanced, complex civilisations are susceptible to collapse, raising questions about the sustainability of modern civilisation: "The fall of the Roman Empire, and the equally (if not more) advanced Han, Mauryan, and Gupta Empires, as well as so many advanced Mesopotamian Empires, are all testimony to the fact that advanced, sophisticated, complex, and creative civilizations can be both fragile and impermanent." It wasn't the average people or industry, of those civilizations, that caused the demises, but the currupt and idiot leaders that was the root cause of the direction the societies were led into, .... just as our idiot leaders are doing today? People, as a whole, can usually manage their own systems, in coordination with themselves. Ignorant (and greedy) leadership is what causes the problems. But no worry. According to other armchair experts, a big-ass meteorite will do in today's civilization(s), before our esteemed leaders do. Sonny |
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On 3/20/2014 10:11 AM, woodchucker wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...udy-scientists This must be NASA's new role. At one time they were heavily involved in Research projects that created jobs in this country and put Man on the moon, and a Space Station in orbit. Today NASA is mouthing the administrations propaganda line, we no longer have a space program, and the space station has been given to the Russians. |
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Propaganda plus out of money.
BTW - not to sound like the newsgroup police but "OT" on these would be nice. When you look at other groups the woodworkers are pretty good about keeping the group tidy. Too much unlabeled off topic and we will start looking lit rec.outdoors-rv-travel. |
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:33:00 -0700, Doug Winterburn
wrote: What is NASA doing studying "The Collapse of Civilization"? I thought they were supposed to be concentrating on their "Muslim Outreach" directive. Maybe the two are related? Time for NASA go away. On 03/20/2014 07:11 AM, woodchucker wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...udy-scientists |
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BTW - not to sound like the newsgroup police but "OT" on these would be nice. When you look at other groups the woodworkers are pretty good about keeping the group tidy. Too much unlabeled off topic and we will start looking lit rec.outdoors-rv-travel. Or worse, the bizarre wackos that leak over onto rec.crafts.metalworking from the political wacko groups. Tom |
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:47:55 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: On 3/20/2014 10:11 AM, woodchucker wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...udy-scientists This must be NASA's new role. At one time they were heavily involved in Research projects that created jobs in this country and put Man on the moon, and a Space Station in orbit. Today NASA is mouthing the administrations propaganda line, we no longer have a space program, and the space station has been given to the Russians. If civilization is going to collapse more incentive to get on the first Mars mission. |
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On 3/20/2014 2:08 PM, Markem wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:47:55 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 3/20/2014 10:11 AM, woodchucker wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...udy-scientists This must be NASA's new role. At one time they were heavily involved in Research projects that created jobs in this country and put Man on the moon, and a Space Station in orbit. Today NASA is mouthing the administrations propaganda line, we no longer have a space program, and the space station has been given to the Russians. If civilization is going to collapse more incentive to get on the first Mars mission. In looking at referenced articles, KPMG predicts 15 years it will all collapse. Funny how an accounting firm is pointing out the wealth difference as an object to be rectified. While I believe that all hell will break loose shortly, I wasn't thinking the collapse of all civilisations, but, that might be the result of the next collapse. Arm yourselves, and start stocking food... lol... The reality is, I'm not sure I want to live in a world that will totally void of civility and have lots of mayhem. Living off the land might be an option, but I think there will be so many people that raid your crops, you won't have enough ammo. Well, enough of that, we all know that the current model is not working and something big is coming. Those that think it will self correct are not paying attention to all the markers. This country is in such debt that it is not self sustaining. Greece , Spain are minor compared to our collapse... And look at the riots that happened there. -- Jeff |
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:42:39 -0400, woodchucker
wrote: On 3/20/2014 2:08 PM, Markem wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:47:55 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 3/20/2014 10:11 AM, woodchucker wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...udy-scientists This must be NASA's new role. At one time they were heavily involved in Research projects that created jobs in this country and put Man on the moon, and a Space Station in orbit. Today NASA is mouthing the administrations propaganda line, we no longer have a space program, and the space station has been given to the Russians. If civilization is going to collapse more incentive to get on the first Mars mission. Why? Do you believe you'll be safer, cut off from Earth? Or perhaps that the first Mars mission will somehow be self-sustaining? In looking at referenced articles, KPMG predicts 15 years it will all collapse. Funny how an accounting firm is pointing out the wealth difference as an object to be rectified. While I believe that all hell will break loose shortly, I wasn't thinking the collapse of all civilisations, but, that might be the result of the next collapse. Arm yourselves, and start stocking food... lol... The reality is, I'm not sure I want to live in a world that will totally void of civility and have lots of mayhem. Living off the land might be an option, but I think there will be so many people that raid your crops, you won't have enough ammo. Stock ammo, instead of food. Trade it for food. It will be the new gold. Well, enough of that, we all know that the current model is not working and something big is coming. Those that think it will self correct are not paying attention to all the markers. This country is in such debt that it is not self sustaining. Greece , Spain are minor compared to our collapse... And look at the riots that happened there. |
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On 3/20/2014 12:28 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
wrote: Propaganda plus out of money. BTW - not to sound like the newsgroup police but "OT" on these would be nice. When you look at other groups the woodworkers are pretty good about keeping the group tidy. Too much unlabeled off topic and we will start looking lit rec.outdoors-rv-travel. Not an invalid point at all, but at least the topic made it very clear what it was about. Is there really a lot of difference between putting OT in the header at that point? We all know that off topic stuff is going to show up in a community like this, so we kinda just expect it to some degree. And... to some degree maybe get frustrated by some of it. Personally, (fwiw), I get a ton more frustrated by the guys that cross post to a zillion different groups of whacko's and then we're inundated with some really crazy thinking from fringe guys for a couple of weeks - but that's just my petty bitch. Now - back to work and make some sawdust damnit! I agree with your take, but if it has OT in the subject line, I can filter it out. As far as cross posting, I can drop anything cross posted to more than 3 groups (an arbitrary number for sure). Troglodyte(sp) that I am, I still use XP and Newsproxy still works on XP. Pretty funny for a guy that spent 40 years in IT. |
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:31:37 -0600, Just Wondering
wrote: wrote: woodchucker wrote: Arm yourselves, and start stocking food... lol... The reality is, I'm not sure I want to live in a world that will totally void of civility and have lots of mayhem. Living off the land might be an option, but I think there will be so many people that raid your crops, you won't have enough ammo. Stock ammo, instead of food. Trade it for food. It will be the new gold. If there was a collapse of that magnitude, and I had a supply of ammunition large enough to use for currency, I don't think I'd want to advertise that fact by using it for currency. If it became common knowledge that I was sitting on a huge ammo dump, that might make me an even bigger target for marauding gangs. Would you advertise that you had a few tons of gold in your basement, now? If there is a collapse large enough that you'd have to stockpile that much food, might just as well hang it up anyway. You *will* need the ammo in either case. |
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On 3/20/2014 5:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:31:37 -0600, Just Wondering wrote: wrote: woodchucker wrote: Arm yourselves, and start stocking food... lol... The reality is, I'm not sure I want to live in a world that will totally void of civility and have lots of mayhem. Living off the land might be an option, but I think there will be so many people that raid your crops, you won't have enough ammo. Stock ammo, instead of food. Trade it for food. It will be the new gold. If there was a collapse of that magnitude, and I had a supply of ammunition large enough to use for currency, I don't think I'd want to advertise that fact by using it for currency. If it became common knowledge that I was sitting on a huge ammo dump, that might make me an even bigger target for marauding gangs. Would you advertise that you had a few tons of gold in your basement, now? If there is a collapse large enough that you'd have to stockpile that much food, might just as well hang it up anyway. You *will* need the ammo in either case. I don't dispute that under such a scenario a survivor would need a substantial ammo supply. I'm just questioning the wisdom of advertising that fact. You'd probably be better off gathering together a group of like-minded people you could trust, pool your resources, and work together for your mutual protection and survival. Maybe then the group could use ammo for trade. But I thing an individual trying the same thing would wind up screwing himself. |
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 18:06:01 -0600, Just Wondering
wrote: On 3/20/2014 5:49 PM, wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:31:37 -0600, Just Wondering wrote: wrote: woodchucker wrote: Arm yourselves, and start stocking food... lol... The reality is, I'm not sure I want to live in a world that will totally void of civility and have lots of mayhem. Living off the land might be an option, but I think there will be so many people that raid your crops, you won't have enough ammo. Stock ammo, instead of food. Trade it for food. It will be the new gold. If there was a collapse of that magnitude, and I had a supply of ammunition large enough to use for currency, I don't think I'd want to advertise that fact by using it for currency. If it became common knowledge that I was sitting on a huge ammo dump, that might make me an even bigger target for marauding gangs. Would you advertise that you had a few tons of gold in your basement, now? If there is a collapse large enough that you'd have to stockpile that much food, might just as well hang it up anyway. You *will* need the ammo in either case. I don't dispute that under such a scenario a survivor would need a substantial ammo supply. I'm just questioning the wisdom of advertising that fact. You'd probably be better off gathering together a group of like-minded people you could trust, pool your resources, and work together for your mutual protection and survival. Maybe then the group could use ammo for trade. But I thing an individual trying the same thing would wind up screwing himself. Sure, but the same thing goes for food. Ammo is easier to hide and lasts longer. ....not that I'm counting on doing either. |
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:41:53 -0400, wrote:
Sure, but the same thing goes for food. Ammo is easier to hide and lasts longer. ...not that I'm counting on doing either. Of course you are. Discussing the end of society as we know it. You're the most negative person I've ever seen. It's truly a wonder you haven't offed yourself by now. |
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 16:56:39 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:42:39 -0400, woodchucker wrote: On 3/20/2014 2:08 PM, Markem wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:47:55 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: On 3/20/2014 10:11 AM, woodchucker wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/environme...udy-scientists This must be NASA's new role. At one time they were heavily involved in Research projects that created jobs in this country and put Man on the moon, and a Space Station in orbit. Today NASA is mouthing the administrations propaganda line, we no longer have a space program, and the space station has been given to the Russians. If civilization is going to collapse more incentive to get on the first Mars mission. Why? Do you believe you'll be safer, cut off from Earth? Or perhaps that the first Mars mission will somehow be self-sustaining? It is a joke son |
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 05:59:32 -0500, Markem
that the first Mars mission will somehow be self-sustaining? It is a joke son krw doesn't joke. He is completely bereft of any sense of humour. |
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 23:05:41 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:41:53 -0400, wrote: Sure, but the same thing goes for food. Ammo is easier to hide and lasts longer. ...not that I'm counting on doing either. Of course you are. Discussing the end of society as we know it. You're the most negative person I've ever seen. It's truly a wonder you haven't offed yourself by now. Once again you insist on proving that not only are you a liar AND the dumbest person in the group, but you're proud of it. |
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 23:02:06 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 16:56:39 -0400, wrote: Stock ammo, instead of food. Trade it for food. It will be the new gold. You'll only need one bullet actually. ~ the one to blow your brains out when you finally realize that you've got nothing left to live for. If you had even one brain cell, you would have already figured that out, knownothing. |
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 07:30:25 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 05:59:32 -0500, Markem that the first Mars mission will somehow be self-sustaining? It is a joke son krw doesn't joke. He is completely bereft of any sense of humour. Again, you lefties just must demonstrate that you're incapable of the truth. You really are a dumbass (but *ALL* lefties are). |
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On 3/21/2014 12:28 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 07:30:25 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 05:59:32 -0500, Markem that the first Mars mission will somehow be self-sustaining? It is a joke son krw doesn't joke. He is completely bereft of any sense of humour. Again, you lefties just must demonstrate that you're incapable of the truth. You really are a dumbass (but *ALL* lefties are). Off your meds again. -- Jeff |
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:49:19 -0400, woodchucker
wrote: On 3/21/2014 12:28 PM, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 07:30:25 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 05:59:32 -0500, Markem that the first Mars mission will somehow be self-sustaining? It is a joke son krw doesn't joke. He is completely bereft of any sense of humour. Again, you lefties just must demonstrate that you're incapable of the truth. You really are a dumbass (but *ALL* lefties are). Off your meds again. Of course not but apparently you've been sniffing some of knownothing's stash. |
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:18:10 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:28:01 -0400, wrote: Again, you lefties just must demonstrate that you're incapable of the truth. You really are a dumbass (but *ALL* lefties are). Ha, Ha! You're such a fool. Lefty, righty, whatever. Obviously, they're some type of societal label, but I don't use them so they mean nothing to me. Go ahead, keep using them, you're such a moron you just don't know any better. If you were any kind of real man, you'd use some good old American swear words, but those days are long gone and buried somewhere deep in your senile mind. You really are a stupid ****. Your father must be really proud producing such a stupid child. |
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On 3/22/2014 8:09 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:18:10 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:28:01 -0400, wrote: Again, you lefties just must demonstrate that you're incapable of the truth. You really are a dumbass (but *ALL* lefties are). Ha, Ha! You're such a fool. Lefty, righty, whatever. Obviously, they're some type of societal label, but I don't use them so they mean nothing to me. Go ahead, keep using them, you're such a moron you just don't know any better. If you were any kind of real man, you'd use some good old American swear words, but those days are long gone and buried somewhere deep in your senile mind. You really are a stupid ****. Your father must be really proud producing such a stupid child. Just take your meds. -- Jeff |
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 21:06:00 -0400, woodchucker
wrote: On 3/22/2014 8:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:18:10 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:28:01 -0400, wrote: Again, you lefties just must demonstrate that you're incapable of the truth. You really are a dumbass (but *ALL* lefties are). Ha, Ha! You're such a fool. Lefty, righty, whatever. Obviously, they're some type of societal label, but I don't use them so they mean nothing to me. Go ahead, keep using them, you're such a moron you just don't know any better. If you were any kind of real man, you'd use some good old American swear words, but those days are long gone and buried somewhere deep in your senile mind. You really are a stupid ****. Your father must be really proud producing such a stupid child. Just take your meds. You've obviously already taken knownothing's. |
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 22:05:54 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:09:58 -0400, wrote: If you were any kind of real man, you'd use some good old American swear words, but those days are long gone and buried somewhere deep in your senile mind. You really are a stupid ****. Your father must be really proud producing such a stupid child. Really? Really! If you weren't so damned stupid you wouldn't waste your time stalking me. Is that all you've got? Apparently, I have you. You're like the dog who caught the car; too damned stupid to let go. I'm disappointed. So is your father. Obviously. I guess I can add 'wimp' to your description. You can add anything you want. You're too stupid to tell the truth, like all lefties. |
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 00:16:39 -0400, wrote:
Really! If you weren't so damned stupid you wouldn't waste your time stalking me. All one has to do is a Google search on krw@atttkrw to see what kind of flaming freak you are. Your life consists of trolling a number of groups and fighting with everyone. Anyone and everyone you argue with is a lefty. |
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 03:14:47 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 00:16:39 -0400, wrote: Really! If you weren't so damned stupid you wouldn't waste your time stalking me. All one has to do is a Google search on krw@atttkrw to see what kind of flaming freak you are. Your life consists of trolling a number of groups and fighting with everyone. Anyone and everyone you argue with is a lefty. I rest my case. You *ARE* a stalker. ...now admitted. ....or are you just disappointed that you're not the only stupid lefty loon in the world? |
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 12:11:42 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 11:46:06 -0400, wrote: Of course I'm right. Unlike you, who is not only left but wrong. ...and a pathological liar (but that goes with leftism). The only problem I have is that I'm stuck in a world of paranoia. Coupled with my advanced senility, I image that everybody is out to get me. I guess even you can have the infrequent moment of lucidity. It would be a miracle if you demonstrated *one* example of intelligence. |
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On 3/22/2014 10:13 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 21:06:00 -0400, woodchucker wrote: On 3/22/2014 8:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:18:10 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:28:01 -0400, wrote: Again, you lefties just must demonstrate that you're incapable of the truth. You really are a dumbass (but *ALL* lefties are). Ha, Ha! You're such a fool. Lefty, righty, whatever. Obviously, they're some type of societal label, but I don't use them so they mean nothing to me. Go ahead, keep using them, you're such a moron you just don't know any better. If you were any kind of real man, you'd use some good old American swear words, but those days are long gone and buried somewhere deep in your senile mind. You really are a stupid ****. Your father must be really proud producing such a stupid child. Just take your meds. You've obviously already taken knownothing's. Still don't have that Bipolar disorder under control? |
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 20:46:33 -0600, Max wrote:
On 3/22/2014 10:13 PM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 21:06:00 -0400, woodchucker wrote: On 3/22/2014 8:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:18:10 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:28:01 -0400, wrote: Again, you lefties just must demonstrate that you're incapable of the truth. You really are a dumbass (but *ALL* lefties are). Ha, Ha! You're such a fool. Lefty, righty, whatever. Obviously, they're some type of societal label, but I don't use them so they mean nothing to me. Go ahead, keep using them, you're such a moron you just don't know any better. If you were any kind of real man, you'd use some good old American swear words, but those days are long gone and buried somewhere deep in your senile mind. You really are a stupid ****. Your father must be really proud producing such a stupid child. Just take your meds. You've obviously already taken knownothing's. Still don't have that Bipolar disorder under control? Stalkers (and assholes) are everywhere. Did your last sockpuppet get too scummy to use? |
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On 3/28/2014 10:40 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 20:46:33 -0600, Max wrote: On 3/22/2014 10:13 PM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 21:06:00 -0400, woodchucker wrote: On 3/22/2014 8:09 PM, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:18:10 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:28:01 -0400, wrote: Again, you lefties just must demonstrate that you're incapable of the truth. You really are a dumbass (but *ALL* lefties are). Ha, Ha! You're such a fool. Lefty, righty, whatever. Obviously, they're some type of societal label, but I don't use them so they mean nothing to me. Go ahead, keep using them, you're such a moron you just don't know any better. If you were any kind of real man, you'd use some good old American swear words, but those days are long gone and buried somewhere deep in your senile mind. You really are a stupid ****. Your father must be really proud producing such a stupid child. Just take your meds. You've obviously already taken knownothing's. Still don't have that Bipolar disorder under control? Stalkers (and assholes) are everywhere. Did your last sockpuppet get too scummy to use? Have you always been that sensitive or is an affliction acquired after a traumatic event? |
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