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unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain
and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? -- |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On 1/18/2014 11:45 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Try cleaning with oxalic acid before you stain. It will clean the wood and remove anything left. Paint dept at big box store. -- Jeff |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:47:16 AM UTC-6, woodchucker wrote:
Try cleaning with oxalic acid before you stain. It will clean the wood and remove anything left. Jeff Do you have personal experience using that method? You realize of course, that when you bleach out the stain with the acid, it won't discriminate between the stained areas and the unstained areas, right? So cleaning the area will lighten that one area on the entire on the entire project. This will be like using full strength Clorox to treat a spot on a black dress shirt. The original poster should post more info about size and appearance of the stain, what kind of oak it is, and how the stain has been treated to this point before expecting an intelligent answer. It is important to note that the OP never said there was any kind of stain to treat or deal with. For all we know, the beer was spilled and immediately wiped off and you can't even tell where the spill was. Robert |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
"Anonymous"
wrote in message roups.com Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? So what - if anything - is the visible result of the beer being spilled? Beer being almost all water I doubt there is much of anything; possibly, a water stain? If that is all, sanding should ne sufficient. Note: do NOT use oxalic acid (or any other bleach). Why do you want to stain the wood prior to varnishing? -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:45:01 +0000, Anonymous
wrote: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? I have several options to consider. 1. If the board was unfinished can you just turn it over and have the un-spilled side become the good side? 2. If the board wasn't that big could you just make a new one? 3. Why not stain and poly the shelf when you get the time and see how it looks before you panic? 4. You could go Lorena Bobbitt on him so he won't mess up the other shelves. |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On 1/18/14, 10:45 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Oh, I hope it wasn't expensive beer. :-) -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On 1/18/2014 12:11 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Why do you want to stain the wood prior to varnishing? Is that not your normal order? |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
Anonymous wrote in
roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
wrote: Anonymous wrote in groups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On 1/18/2014 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: Anonymouscaedfaa9ed1216d60ef78a6f660f5f85_8180@ex ample.com wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! Well, he could always drink it first... |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
"Richard" wrote: Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. ------------------------------------- That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! ------------------------------------ Well, he could always drink it first... ------------------------------------- Pat & Mike had been friends for many years, but it was getting to be time for Mike to cash in his hand and move along. As Mike was lying on his death bed, his old friend Pat at his side, he asked Mike, "Mike my old friend, is there anything I can do for you?" Mike said, "Not in this life, but after I'm gone there is a bottle of Irish in me closet. Would you mind sprinkling it on me grave?" Pat thought for a minute then asked, "Would you mind if I run it thru my kidneys first?" Lew |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
Doug Miller wrote:
Anonymous wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's one hell of a waste of good beer! I suppose you could use cheap beer - like maybe Utica Club... -- -Mike- |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: Anonymous wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! Not Mike. You meant to say -Mike-. There is a difference... -- -Mike- |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On 1/18/2014 11:15 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Doug Miller wrote: Anonymouscaedfaa9ed1216d60ef78a6f660f5f85_8180@ex ample.com wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's one hell of a waste of good beer! I suppose you could use cheap beer - like maybe Utica Club... In Texas we would use a foreign beer for this job. Something like Budweiser or Miller. |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
On 1/18/2014 12:11 PM, dadiOH wrote: Why do you want to stain the wood prior to varnishing? Is that not your normal order? I try to avoid stain preferring to use wood I like au natural rather than trying to make a wood I don't much care for look like something else. The lack of stain also eases any needed repairs should they become necessary in the future. Of course there are exceptions, one of them being when overall color is important but the wood itself is not. For example, around here, "merlot" is being championed by many furniture retailers. It is the gotta have color. Why anyone wants their bedroom suite et al to look like wine I do not know but strongly suspect it is for much the same reason that granite, volume ceilings,tray ceilings and crown molding are also "gotta haves" :) -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
Richard wrote:
On 1/18/2014 11:15 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Doug Miller wrote: Anonymouscaedfaa9ed1216d60ef78a6f660f5f85_8180@ex ample.com wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's one hell of a waste of good beer! I suppose you could use cheap beer - like maybe Utica Club... In Texas we would use a foreign beer for this job. Something like Budweiser or Miller. It's hard to find a beer brand that isn't owned by a foreign country. For an all-American brand that is family owned and brewed in Pottsville, PA, try Yuengling. They claim it is the oldest US brewery and Google seems to support that statement. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeros after @ |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On 01/19/2014 08:00 AM, willshak wrote:
Richard wrote: On 1/18/2014 11:15 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Doug Miller wrote: Anonymouscaedfaa9ed1216d60ef78a6f660f5f85_8180@ex ample.com wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's one hell of a waste of good beer! I suppose you could use cheap beer - like maybe Utica Club... In Texas we would use a foreign beer for this job. Something like Budweiser or Miller. It's hard to find a beer brand that isn't owned by a foreign country. For an all-American brand that is family owned and brewed in Pottsville, PA, try Yuengling. They claim it is the oldest US brewery and Google seems to support that statement. Can't get it west of the Mississippi :-( Leinenkugle (Chippewa Falls, WI) is more available in the west. -- "Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" -Winston Churchill |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:16:56 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: Gordon Shumway wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: Anonymous wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! Not Mike. You meant to say -Mike-. There is a difference... You're right. I'll try not to make that mistake again. |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: Anonymous wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent use for Bud lite. :-) -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:16:56 -0500, "Mike Marlow" wrote: Gordon Shumway wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: Anonymous wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! Not Mike. You meant to say -Mike-. There is a difference... You're right. I'll try not to make that mistake again. Phew! That saves me a lot of explanations... -- -Mike- |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
-MIKE- wrote:
On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: Anonymous wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent use for Bud lite. :-) Not freakin' likely... -- -Mike- |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On 1/19/2014 9:00 AM, willshak wrote:
Richard wrote: On 1/18/2014 11:15 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Doug Miller wrote: Anonymouscaedfaa9ed1216d60ef78a6f660f5f85_8180@ex ample.com wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's one hell of a waste of good beer! I suppose you could use cheap beer - like maybe Utica Club... In Texas we would use a foreign beer for this job. Something like Budweiser or Miller. It's hard to find a beer brand that isn't owned by a foreign country. For an all-American brand that is family owned and brewed in Pottsville, PA, try Yuengling. They claim it is the oldest US brewery and Google seems to support that statement. That's what I'm sayin... We drink Shiner Boch around here. Spoetzl Brewery is a brewery located in Shiner, Texas, USA. The brewery produces the popular line of Shiner Beers, including their flagship Shiner Bock, a dark lager that is now distributed in 43 states. The brewery is owned by The Gambrinus Company, a family-owned company in San Antonio. |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:27:02 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: Gordon Shumway wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:16:56 -0500, "Mike Marlow" wrote: Gordon Shumway wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: Anonymous wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! Not Mike. You meant to say -Mike-. There is a difference... You're right. I'll try not to make that mistake again. Phew! That saves me a lot of explanations... You can be my brother Mike, and he can be my other brother Mike... or is it Darryl and Darryl? |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
"Anonymous" wrote in message roups.com... Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Red oak - probably the worst wood you could spill any liquid onto. It has tiny pores that run a long way through the wood along the grain, these pores are hollow and will draw the liquid into the wood. Any hand sanding will never remove the residue and sugars from the spilled beer as they will be too deep in the pores. Power planing may remove enough surface wood to expose unbeered wood. Either replace the shelf or treat the entire board or project to a wash in beer to make it finish evenly. Next time don't use any wood in its unfinished state if you want to eventually finish it. |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: Anonymous wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent use for Bud lite. :-) I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_. Using a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a poor substitute for using beer. -BR |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
EXT wrote:
"Anonymous" wrote in message roups.com... Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Red oak - probably the worst wood you could spill any liquid onto. It has tiny pores that run a long way through the wood along the grain, these pores are hollow and will draw the liquid into the wood. Any hand sanding will never remove the residue and sugars from the spilled beer as they will be too deep in the pores. Power planing may remove enough surface wood to expose unbeered wood. Either replace the shelf or treat the entire board or project to a wash in beer to make it finish evenly. Next time don't use any wood in its unfinished state if you want to eventually finish it. This is good, but why a water and/or a water/soap wash not work? The water and/or the water/soap is going to infiltrate those fibers the very same way that the original beer spill did. -- -Mike- |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote:
On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote: On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: Anonymous wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent use for Bud lite. :-) I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_. Using a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a poor substitute for using beer. -BR "a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol" That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-) -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
-MIKE- writes:
On 1/20/14, 9:23 AM, Brewster wrote: On 1/19/14 10:42 AM, -MIKE- wrote: On 1/18/14, 10:16 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:47:40 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: Anonymous wrote in roups.com: Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Wipe *all* of the boards down with beer. Then it won't really matter -- everything will look the same in the end. That's the best idea yet, but you probably just gave Mike a heart attack by suggesting someone use beer in that manor! Well, I don't know. We may have accidentally stumbled upon a decent use for Bud lite. :-) I thought the suggestion was to wipe down all boards with _beer_. Using a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol probably is a poor substitute for using beer. -BR "a pale straw colored concoction infused with alcohol" That's the definition of Bud Lite. :-) or superblonde shellac... |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:58:02 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: EXT wrote: "Anonymous" wrote in message roups.com... Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? Red oak - probably the worst wood you could spill any liquid onto. It has tiny pores that run a long way through the wood along the grain, these pores are hollow and will draw the liquid into the wood. Any hand sanding will never remove the residue and sugars from the spilled beer as they will be too deep in the pores. Power planing may remove enough surface wood to expose unbeered wood. Either replace the shelf or treat the entire board or project to a wash in beer to make it finish evenly. Next time don't use any wood in its unfinished state if you want to eventually finish it. This is good, but why a water and/or a water/soap wash not work? The water and/or the water/soap is going to infiltrate those fibers the very same way that the original beer spill did. and wash the spilled beer out. - eventually. I'd wash the poluted wood with methyl hydrate, flooding the surface, then blotting it dry - several times. |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:58:02 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
This is good, but why a water and/or a water/soap wash not work? The water and/or the water/soap is going to infiltrate those fibers the very same way that the original beer spill did. Wow... this thread is going from weird to surreal. Soon someone will suggest that the piece be sent to a lab in Germany for testing, then treatment at an undisclosed location using products that don't exist... or do they? This is probably an pretty simple problem (but we don't know without details as the OP bugged out)and no extensive wood rehabilitation (really... board planing?) is needed. Surely there are others out there that have experience finishing/refinishing contaminated surfaces... Water on a piece of oak might stain almost as much as the beer did. And never use any soap in unsealed wood as it will leave a residue that is almost impossible to remove or seal over. Worse, the soap (which is most likely a surfactant of some sort) will simply redistribute the remaining dried particles over the area you are cleaning/washing. Unless allowed to stand with a liquid on it, wood, even oak (don't panic over the tubules), absorbs very little liquid when exposed. I did some of my own experiments after reading how little penetration wood finishes get, and was literally stunned at low little finish of any sort is absorbed by wood. Whether the finish is thick or thin, the amount of surface penetration is probably nor more than a very few thousands at best. A simple spill is not different. While we were not given any additional information to help with a better diagnosis, under normal circumstances it would be likely that the project had beer spilled on it and was immediately wiped down. If this is the case, the remaining residue can be wiped off with mineral spirits and a porous rag, then after completely dry, a little sanding. Loosened particles that contain the last of the beer should be easily dusted away at this point, then a quick wipe with a rage moistened with mineral spirits should do the trick. Robert |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 8:45:01 AM UTC-8, Anonymous wrote:
Red oak boards being used as shelves. Was too wet and cold to sand, stain and poly them so my husband put them up unfinished. Well he spilled his beer on one. Will sanding be enough or will the spot rear its ugly head when I get to stain and poly it in the spring? -- Soak all boards in same beer. Let dry. Then stain and finish as you wish. |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:51:43 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:58:02 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote: This is good, but why a water and/or a water/soap wash not work? The water and/or the water/soap is going to infiltrate those fibers the very same way that the original beer spill did. Wow... this thread is going from weird to surreal. Soon someone will suggest that the piece be sent to a lab in Germany for testing, then treatment at an undisclosed location using products that don't exist... or do they? This is probably an pretty simple problem (but we don't know without details as the OP bugged out)and no extensive wood rehabilitation (really... board planing?) is needed. Surely there are others out there that have experience finishing/refinishing contaminated surfaces... Water on a piece of oak might stain almost as much as the beer did. And never use any soap in unsealed wood as it will leave a residue that is almost impossible to remove or seal over. Worse, the soap (which is most likely a surfactant of some sort) will simply redistribute the remaining dried particles over the area you are cleaning/washing. Unless allowed to stand with a liquid on it, wood, even oak (don't panic over the tubules), absorbs very little liquid when exposed. I did some of my own experiments after reading how little penetration wood finishes get, and was literally stunned at low little finish of any sort is absorbed by wood. Whether the finish is thick or thin, the amount of surface penetration is probably nor more than a very few thousands at best. A simple spill is not different. While we were not given any additional information to help with a better diagnosis, under normal circumstances it would be likely that the project had beer spilled on it and was immediately wiped down. If this is the case, the remaining residue can be wiped off with mineral spirits and a porous rag, then after completely dry, a little sanding. Loosened particles that contain the last of the beer should be easily dusted away at this point, then a quick wipe with a rage moistened with mineral spirits should do the trick. Now Robert BEER was spilled!!! Mark |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Monday, January 20, 2014 8:24:54 PM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
.. Now Robert BEER was spilled!!! Mark Well... I was trying to overlook the obvious, pointless tragedy. Had that been one of my friends that spilled his beer on a board, the question would have been "can anyone tell me what I need to do to get tongue marks off my shelf? It looks like the dog lapped this board dry. Will spit and drool ruin my finish later on?" Robert |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
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unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:54:02 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Next up, perhaps the board should be sent up to the space station to see how it will clean up under zero gravity conditions. Have no doubt, if it shows up on Google as posted by someone that swears they heard it from an expert, it will show up here! Robert |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
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unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:12:45 -0500, FrozenNorth
The obvious question is what kind of beer, if it was a Belgian Lambic, there will be staining, Bud Light, not likely. A good Canadian beer. My choice is Sleeman Cream Ale. |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
Leon wrote:
On 1/20/2014 12:51 PM, wrote: On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:58:02 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote: This is good, but why a water and/or a water/soap wash not work? The water and/or the water/soap is going to infiltrate those fibers the very same way that the original beer spill did. Wow... this thread is going from weird to surreal. Soon someone will suggest that the piece be sent to a lab in Germany for testing, then treatment at an undisclosed location using products that don't exist... or do they? This is probably an pretty simple problem (but we don't know without details as the OP bugged out)and no extensive wood rehabilitation (really... board planing?) is needed. Surely there are others out there that have experience finishing/refinishing contaminated surfaces... Water on a piece of oak might stain almost as much as the beer did. And never use any soap in unsealed wood as it will leave a residue that is almost impossible to remove or seal over. Worse, the soap (which is most likely a surfactant of some sort) will simply redistribute the remaining dried particles over the area you are cleaning/washing. Unless allowed to stand with a liquid on it, wood, even oak (don't panic over the tubules), absorbs very little liquid when exposed. I did some of my own experiments after reading how little penetration wood finishes get, and was literally stunned at low little finish of any sort is absorbed by wood. Whether the finish is thick or thin, the amount of surface penetration is probably nor more than a very few thousands at best. A simple spill is not different. While we were not given any additional information to help with a better diagnosis, under normal circumstances it would be likely that the project had beer spilled on it and was immediately wiped down. If this is the case, the remaining residue can be wiped off with mineral spirits and a porous rag, then after completely dry, a little sanding. Loosened particles that contain the last of the beer should be easily dusted away at this point, then a quick wipe with a rage moistened with mineral spirits should do the trick. Robert Next up, perhaps the board should be sent up to the space station to see how it will clean up under zero gravity conditions. Wow - all of this over a simple suggestion to wipe it down with water - and maybe a little soap? I've done both over decades with absolutely no problems. Can't understand how this is getting this big. -- -Mike- |
unfinished red oak boards that beer was spilled on ruined?
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