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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
Not too much and no smell, but it looks like the motor is about to go. What are my options? I hate to say good-bye to an old friend.
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
If it's a direct drive you may find someone to rebuild / rewind the motor.
If it's a belt drive, lots of options to having that motor rebuilt to a number of replacements available. Need to know what type of mount, shaft size, length, etc. Sears Parts may even have a replacement. Bob S. "Michael" wrote in message ... Not too much and no smell, but it looks like the motor is about to go. What are my options? I hate to say good-bye to an old friend. Mike |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
On Friday, September 6, 2013 9:42:20 PM UTC-5, Bob wrote:
If it's a direct drive you may find someone to rebuild / rewind the motor. If it's a belt drive, lots of options to having that motor rebuilt to a number of replacements available. Need to know what type of mount, shaft size, length, etc. Sears Parts may even have a replacement. Bob S. "Michael" wrote in message ... Not too much and no smell, but it looks like the motor is about to go. What are my options? I hate to say good-bye to an old friend. Mike It's a direct drive. I like the idea of having someone rebuild the motor. What will that set me back? Thanks. |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
"Michael" wrote: It's a direct drive. I like the idea of having someone rebuild the motor. What will that set me back? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Unfortunately a rewind of a fractional HP, direct drive motor will probably cost 75%-80% of the cost of a new direct drive saw. Lew |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
On Friday, September 6, 2013 11:23:17 PM UTC-5, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Michael" wrote: It's a direct drive. I like the idea of having someone rebuild the motor. What will that set me back? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Unfortunately a rewind of a fractional HP, direct drive motor will probably cost 75%-80% of the cost of a new direct drive saw. Lew Yeah, I just talked to a guy who does this. He said it's going to cost more than the motor is worth. |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 07:08:45 -0700 (PDT), Michael
wrote: On Friday, September 6, 2013 11:23:17 PM UTC-5, Lew Hodgett wrote: "Michael" wrote: It's a direct drive. I like the idea of having someone rebuild the Yeah, I just talked to a guy who does this. He said it's going to cost more than the motor is worth. Is this the little direct drive saws that make a lot of noise and have a table too small for a decent cross cut? If so, it may be time to get an upgrade. |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
On Saturday, September 7, 2013 9:08:45 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2013 11:23:17 PM UTC-5, Lew Hodgett wrote: "Michael" wrote: It's a direct drive. I like the idea of having someone rebuild the motor. What will that set me back? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Unfortunately a rewind of a fractional HP, direct drive motor will probably cost 75%-80% of the cost of a new direct drive saw. Lew Yeah, I just talked to a guy who does this. He said it's going to cost more than the motor is worth. I went by Sears today. I like this saw. http://www.sears.com/craftsman-profe...a=00921833000P The motor is 1 3/4 HP. Will I miss that much HP since I've been using at 2 HP for years? The most stress I put on the saw is ripping 45 inch long green hickory that I've planed to square. The lesser-priced saw has some kind of flange sticking into the miter slot that will not let me use my many jigs. What a bad idea. http://www.sears.com/craftsman-profe...a=00921833000P Mike |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 21:23:17 -0700, Lew Hodgett wrote:
It's a direct drive. I like the idea of having someone rebuild the motor. What will that set me back? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Unfortunately a rewind of a fractional HP, direct drive motor will probably cost 75%-80% of the cost of a new direct drive saw. I've got a 1948 Delta with a motor that's so heavy I can barely lift it. Some of that is my age but it's still one *heavy* motor. I was told by a guy who worked at a motor place that if it ever failed, I should get it fixed instead of replacing it because the newer motors didn't have anything like the torque of the old ones. I don't know if he was correct or if this applies to the OPs motor. Just something to consider besides cost. -- When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 16:31:26 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
wrote: On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 21:23:17 -0700, Lew Hodgett wrote: It's a direct drive. I like the idea of having someone rebuild the motor. What will that set me back? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Unfortunately a rewind of a fractional HP, direct drive motor will probably cost 75%-80% of the cost of a new direct drive saw. I've got a 1948 Delta with a motor that's so heavy I can barely lift it. Some of that is my age but it's still one *heavy* motor. I was told by a guy who worked at a motor place that if it ever failed, I should get it fixed instead of replacing it because the newer motors didn't have anything like the torque of the old ones. A new one might not have the weight of an old one and may not be as efficient (or more) but HP is HP. (HP == torque*RPM - RPM is constant). I don't know if he was correct or if this applies to the OPs motor. Just something to consider besides cost. |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
"Michael" wrote: Not too much and no smell, but it looks like the motor is about to go. What are my options? I hate to say good-bye to an old friend. ---------------------------------------------------------- A replacement (You need one) 2HP, 3450RPM, cap start, cap run, 120/240V motor is available from your local Grainger. Found a Model 5K961 from Grainger for $450. Last time I bought one it was around $300 but that was then and this is now. BTDT, don't need the T-Shirt. Good luck, Lew |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
Michael wrote:
Not too much and no smell, but it looks like the motor is about to go. What are my options? I hate to say good-bye to an old friend. Mike 25 Years is way past the legal age for smoking. -- GW Ross Weird enough for all practical purposes. |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
"Michael" wrote in message ... Not too much and no smell, but it looks like the motor is about to go. What are my options? I hate to say good-bye to an old friend. Mike Blow out the accumulated sawdust with compressed air. A motor that can't breathe is going to get hot. Open it up if necessary, This will be a good time to oil the bearings too. Art |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
On Saturday, September 7, 2013 2:47:15 PM UTC-5, Artemus wrote:
"Michael" wrote in message ... Not too much and no smell, but it looks like the motor is about to go. What are my options? I hate to say good-bye to an old friend. Mike Blow out the accumulated sawdust with compressed air. A motor that can't breathe is going to get hot. Open it up if necessary, This will be a good time to oil the bearings too. Art I blew out the dust with my air compressor. I haven't oiled the bearings. I don't know how but I'll figure it out and try that. Thanks! |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
On 09/06/2013 08:53 PM, Michael wrote:
Not too much and no smell, but it looks like the motor is about to go. What are my options? I hate to say good-bye to an old friend. Mike Surprisingly, Sears Parts may still have replacement motors for this. Get the full parts number off the saw and have a look on their website or call a local Sears Parts outlet. I have a saw of similar vintage and will not part with it. It fits my garage/shop corner perfectly and is of a vintage that still had machined metal surfaces as opposed to the newer plastic/aluminum. Unfortunately, the motor is going to set you back a nice chunk of change. But .. it's probably only a bit more than having the motor rebuilt and you get a brand new motor ... for another 25 years. I have modified mine so extensively that table surface, motor, and frame are all that are left of the original saw: http://www.tundraware.com/Woodworking/TableSaw/ -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
On 9/7/2013 5:29 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 09/06/2013 08:53 PM, Michael wrote: Not too much and no smell, but it looks like the motor is about to go. What are my options? I hate to say good-bye to an old friend. Mike Surprisingly, Sears Parts may still have replacement motors for this. Get the full parts number off the saw and have a look on their website or call a local Sears Parts outlet. I have a saw of similar vintage and will not part with it. It fits my garage/shop corner perfectly and is of a vintage that still had machined metal surfaces as opposed to the newer plastic/aluminum. Unfortunately, the motor is going to set you back a nice chunk of change. But .. it's probably only a bit more than having the motor rebuilt and you get a brand new motor ... for another 25 years. I have modified mine so extensively that table surface, motor, and frame are all that are left of the original saw: http://www.tundraware.com/Woodworking/TableSaw/ Before doing away with the saw look on the net or in the phone book and find a shop that handles small electric motors. Many years ago I thought my motor was dead, As you found replacement motors are expensive. I took it to a local shop. He showed me what the problem was. (Old saw dust and wood chips in the contacts.) That was over 10 years ago and the motor is working perfectly. After every use, I use the vacuum to clean all of the openings on the motor. Every couple of years I take it a part and clean everything. Just carefully put it back together and make sure there are no extra parts when you are done. It is really a simple task. I have a 10" Sears table saw that was purchased new in 1969. It has the cast iron top. I would not trade it for any thing similar made today, it I could find a 10" table saw with anything but a pressed steel top. |
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25 year old Craftman 10 in 2HP table saw is smoking
On 9/7/2013 7:18 PM, Knuttle wrote:
On 9/7/2013 5:29 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 09/06/2013 08:53 PM, Michael wrote: Not too much and no smell, but it looks like the motor is about to go. What are my options? I hate to say good-bye to an old friend. Mike Surprisingly, Sears Parts may still have replacement motors for this. Get the full parts number off the saw and have a look on their website or call a local Sears Parts outlet. I have a saw of similar vintage and will not part with it. It fits my garage/shop corner perfectly and is of a vintage that still had machined metal surfaces as opposed to the newer plastic/aluminum. Unfortunately, the motor is going to set you back a nice chunk of change. But .. it's probably only a bit more than having the motor rebuilt and you get a brand new motor ... for another 25 years. I have modified mine so extensively that table surface, motor, and frame are all that are left of the original saw: http://www.tundraware.com/Woodworking/TableSaw/ Before doing away with the saw look on the net or in the phone book and find a shop that handles small electric motors. Many years ago I thought my motor was dead, As you found replacement motors are expensive. I took it to a local shop. He showed me what the problem was. (Old saw dust and wood chips in the contacts.) That was over 10 years ago and the motor is working perfectly. After every use, I use the vacuum to clean all of the openings on the motor. Every couple of years I take it a part and clean everything. Just carefully put it back together and make sure there are no extra parts when you are done. It is really a simple task. I have a 10" Sears table saw that was purchased new in 1969. It has the cast iron top. I would not trade it for any thing similar made today, it I could find a 10" table saw with anything but a pressed steel top. Look on Craigs list, you can buy a vintage unit for under 100, just take the motor and use the rest for parts. -- -- Jeff |
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