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What do you put on a brown wood door facing the sun & rain?
Bob F wrote:
If you want it varnished, use spar varnish. Or, you could paint it, or try an exterior stain. I like the spar varnish idea. Can I just add stain to the spar varnish to make it match the dark? http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ojz5l |
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What do you put on a brown wood door facing the sun & rain?
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 01:48:51 +0000 (UTC), Tony Palermo
wrote: Bob F wrote: If you want it varnished, use spar varnish. Or, you could paint it, or try an exterior stain. I like the spar varnish idea. Can I just add stain to the spar varnish to make it match the dark? http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ojz5l There's no reason to match the dark unless you like that on the outside. It's very nice wood, so take your time and see what looks best to you. Sometimes nice wood grain show best with a light stain. I had a similar entryway door and never touched it in the 14 years I lived there, and it still looked good. That peeling (I've heard it called "cellophaning") probably means water-based, and you don't want to use that. As other have said, use an oil-based "marine" varnish. I've read that a scraper and heat gun can help to remove cellophaning varnish, so you can minimize sanding work. That wood still looks to be in good shape so it looks like a fun project. You should be very pleased with the results of your work. |
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What do you put on a brown wood door facing the sun & rain?
Tony Palermo wrote:
Bob F wrote: If you want it varnished, use spar varnish. Or, you could paint it, or try an exterior stain. I like the spar varnish idea. I wouldn't use spar varnish as it is softer. I mentioned Z-Spar varnish but that is a brand name, not a type. Can I just add stain to the spar varnish to make it match the dark? http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ojz5l You could add universal coloring material to give color to the varnish but I wouln't add stain, too much cance for incompatibility. In fact, I wouldn't stain at all. If you do and if you ever have to repair an area you will wish you had not stained. Varnish itself will darken the wood and give a lovely color. You have a couple of black areas on the outside casing near the bottom. That is because the wood pieces are wicking up water; eventually (if not already) they will rot. Cutting off 1/8 - 1/4" from the bottoms will keep them from wicking up water. Your sill is always going to be a problem as the constant wear from goings and comings will wear the finish much faster than the finish on the door and trim. If you ever get a chance, I'd replace the sill with tile as you have in the entry. That would be a fairly major job so not one you should undertake; if you ever need/want to change out the door and side lights, consider doing it then. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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What do you put on a brown wood door facing the sun & rain?
dadiOH wrote:
Tony Palermo wrote: Bob F wrote: If you want it varnished, use spar varnish. Or, you could paint it, or try an exterior stain. I like the spar varnish idea. I wouldn't use spar varnish as it is softer. I mentioned Z-Spar varnish but that is a brand name, not a type. I changed my mind...a marine spar varnish may give you some benefit. Any finish tends to crack at joints between boards going different directions (up/down - side/side) because the boards expand and contract in different directions. Spar varnish is more flexible so it *may* help that. FYI, "spar" and "marine" are not synonymous. You can have spar varnish that is not marine and vice versa. The thing that makes a varnish "spar" is a greater amount of oil. More oil equals more flexibility and less hardness. The primary purpose of spar varnish was for - surprise - spars so that they could bend without cracking the finish. Somehow, with the help of certain manufacturers, people have come to believe that it is a superior varnish for all things. That is not true. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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What do you put on a brown wood door facing the sun & rain?
dadiOH wrote:
More oil equals more flexibility and less hardness. The primary purpose of spar varnish was for - surprise - spars I had not thought of the word but this is what wikipedia says. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varnish#Spar_varnish Spar varnish (also called marine varnish) was originally intended for use on ship or boat spars, to protect the timber from the effects of sea and weather. Spars bend under the load of their sails. The primary requirements were water resistance and also elasticity, so as to remain adhering as the spars flexed. Elasticity was a pre-condition for weatherproofing too, as a finish that cracked would then allow water through, even if the remaining film was impermeable. Appearance and gloss was of relatively low value. Modified tung oil and phenolic resins are often used. When first developed, no varnishes had good UV-resistance. Even after more modern synthetic resins did become resistant, a true spar varnish maintained its elasticity above other virtues, even if this required a compromise in its UV-resistance. Spar varnishes are thus not necessarily the best choice for outdoor woodwork which does not need to bend in service. Despite this, the widespread perception of "marine products" as "tough" led to domestic outdoor varnishes being branded as "Spar varnish" and sold on the virtue of their weather- and UV-resistance. These claims may be more or less realistic, depending on individual products. Only relatively recently have spar varnishes been available that can offer both effective elasticity and UV-resistance. |
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