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I thought you could buy finish nails that had the adhesive coating on them that melts from the friction of driving the nail and then rehardens. I'm having trouble finding them though...25d, 15g, 2.5" long. How about staples? Can you get them with adhesive too? I'm probably just being ridiculous, but it's for an overhead application and I want to be assured of long-term durability.
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Nails for nail guns have that feature.
I don't know of loose nails having that feature. You would be laboring to drive them, as they would be setting each time you hammered. On 10/28/2012 10:55 AM, JayPique wrote: I thought you could buy finish nails that had the adhesive coating on them that melts from the friction of driving the nail and then rehardens. I'm having trouble finding them though...25d, 15g, 2.5" long. How about staples? Can you get them with adhesive too? I'm probably just being ridiculous, but it's for an overhead application and I want to be assured of long-term durability. Thanks. JP |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:23:02 -0400, tiredofspam wrote:
Nails for nail guns have that feature. I don't know of loose nails having that feature. You would be laboring to drive them, as they would be setting each time you hammered. I know they made them a few years back, I've still got some 3" left over from a porch project. And the adhesive doesn't set till the nail cools down. I guess if you waited 10 seconds or more between hammer hits you might have a problem, but not under normal use. -- When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. |
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On 10/28/2012 11:57 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:23:02 -0400, tiredofspam wrote: Nails for nail guns have that feature. I don't know of loose nails having that feature. You would be laboring to drive them, as they would be setting each time you hammered. I know they made them a few years back, I've still got some 3" left over from a porch project. And the adhesive doesn't set till the nail cools down. I guess if you waited 10 seconds or more between hammer hits you might have a problem, but not under normal use. You have 3" finish nails? |
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Leon wrote:
On 10/28/2012 11:57 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:23:02 -0400, tiredofspam wrote: Nails for nail guns have that feature. I don't know of loose nails having that feature. You would be laboring to drive them, as they would be setting each time you hammered. I know they made them a few years back, I've still got some 3" left over from a porch project. And the adhesive doesn't set till the nail cools down. I guess if you waited 10 seconds or more between hammer hits you might have a problem, but not under normal use. You have 3" finish nails? I do. When you live in a log home, you tend to have things that normal people just don't encounter. -- -Mike- |
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On 10/29/2012 9:22 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote: On 10/28/2012 11:57 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:23:02 -0400, tiredofspam wrote: Nails for nail guns have that feature. I don't know of loose nails having that feature. You would be laboring to drive them, as they would be setting each time you hammered. I know they made them a few years back, I've still got some 3" left over from a porch project. And the adhesive doesn't set till the nail cools down. I guess if you waited 10 seconds or more between hammer hits you might have a problem, but not under normal use. You have 3" finish nails? I do. When you live in a log home, you tend to have things that normal people just don't encounter. I actually have seen them and long ago had some but have not seen any in a while. Maybe I should say I have not seen any because I have had absolutely no need for finish nails that long. And I am not so sure they were actually finish nails as they were much larger in diameter but with a finish nail head. I don't consider a finish nail that leaves a 5/32" hole to be a finish nail so to speak. |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:19:23 -0500, Leon wrote:
You have 3" finish nails? Oops, my brain must have skipped that word. No, mine are common nails, but I do see that another poster says he does have 3" finish nails. -- When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. |
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On 10/29/2012 10:35 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:19:23 -0500, Leon wrote: You have 3" finish nails? Oops, my brain must have skipped that word. No, mine are common nails, but I do see that another poster says he does have 3" finish nails. Well to be fair I did not mean to sound as if there was no such thing. IIRC I has some when I was a kid back in the 60's. ;~) They were basically headless common nails and probably more commonly used before specialty nail guns became main stream. I was just surprised to hear that some one still had a supply. ;~) Now I will go to HD and probably find countless boxes of 3" finish nails. LOL |
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replying to Larry Blanchard , Denny wrote:
lblanch wrote: Oops, my brain must have skipped that word. No, mine are common nails, but I do see that another poster says he does have 3" finish nails. Larry, would be nice if you'd leave your political views out of forums like this.There are plenty of contentious sites where people might care one way or another what you think about politics and religion. -- |
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:55:39 AM UTC-4, JayPique wrote:
I thought you could buy finish nails that had the adhesive coating on them that melts from the friction of driving the nail and then rehardens. I'm having trouble finding them though...25d, 15g, 2.5" long. How about staples? Can you get them with adhesive too? I'm probably just being ridiculous, but it's for an overhead application and I want to be assured of long-term durability. Thanks. JP Finish nails were never cement coated. Cement coated nails come only as box nails and were a cheaper alternative to ring-shanked nails, usually used for sub-flooring. A good rule of thumb is to remember that nails are what hold a project together until the glue dries. A thin layer of phenolic glue or a bead of construction adhesive, whichever is appropriate to the application and the size of stock, along with a proper pattern of nailing for the job is the right procedure. |
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On 10/28/2012 9:55 AM, JayPique wrote:
I thought you could buy finish nails that had the adhesive coating on them that melts from the friction of driving the nail and then rehardens. I'm having trouble finding them though...25d, 15g, 2.5" long. How about staples? Can you get them with adhesive too? I'm probably just being ridiculous, but it's for an overhead application and I want to be assured of long-term durability. Thanks. JP Pretty common for nail gun "nails" that are glued together side by side to use that adhesive to hold them together and to glue them in the hole. I would think that loose finish nails with this feature might be difficult to drive unless you can drive a finish nail with one blow in the exact direction you want. Remember that with each blow more of the nail adheres to the hole making each blow increasingly difficult. ICBR |
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 at 10:55:39 AM UTC-4, JayPique wrote:
I thought you could buy finish nails that had the adhesive coating on them that melts from the friction of driving the nail and then rehardens. I'm having trouble finding them though...25d, 15g, 2.5" long. How about staples? Can you get them with adhesive too? I'm probably just being ridiculous, but it's for an overhead application and I want to be assured of long-term durability. Thanks. JP Rosin coated nails. I bought 8d, not sure of other sizes that have it. |
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