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in 1538638 20120920 070452 "CW" wrote:
Who will Win? Who cares? |
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"Bob Martin" wrote in message ... in 1538638 20120920 070452 "CW" wrote: Who will Win? Who cares? ================================================== ======== This was supposed to go somewhere else, not this group. |
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CW wrote:
Who will Win? Doesn't matter, we lose either way. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote:
CW wrote: Who will Win? Doesn't matter, we lose either way. +1 -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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On 09/20/2012 01:04 AM, CW wrote:
Who will Win? The professional politicians and their hangers-on. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk |
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wrote: Who will Win? Calgary. Durant still isn't at full strength after his hip injury, and Calgary's hungry. I'm a Riders' fan, but they just don't have it this year. -- I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I like fishing because itıs the one thing I can think of that probably doesnıt. * John Gierach |
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On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote: CW wrote: Who will Win? Doesn't matter, we lose either way. +1 Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough. If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win? I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular persuasion. -- Jack Got Change: Supply and Demand ====== Command and Control! http://jbstein.com |
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m: Who will Win? Doesn't matter who takes the ALCS, the Nationals will win the Series in six. |
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On 9/20/2012 2:04 AM, CW wrote:
Who will Win? Me. |
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Doug Miller writes:
"CW" wrote in om: Who will Win? Doesn't matter who takes the ALCS, the Nationals will win the Series in six. They must first get past the Giants; who are going to repeat 2010 and beat the Rangers in the series. |
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Jack wrote:
On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote: On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote: CW wrote: Who will Win? Doesn't matter, we lose either way. +1 Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough. If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win? I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular persuasion. Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in action, or just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or know for sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a co-op that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood for guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill educated, surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank balance, or somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad ****ing infinitum?? The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the last twenty elections ... just too ****ing stupid to realize it. -- www.ewoodshop.com |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:05:33 -0500, Swingman wrote:
Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in action, or just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or know for sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a co-op that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood for guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill educated, surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank balance, or somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad ****ing infinitum?? The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the last twenty elections ... just too ****ing stupid to realize it. Hell Karl, don't beat around the bush, tell people exactly how you feel about your entire society in general. With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for is that you die off before it gets much worse. The *really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's pretty depressing. |
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On 9/20/2012 10:22 AM, Dave wrote:
With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for is that you die off before it gets much worse. The*really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's pretty depressing. It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic, purposely dumbed down population. Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot, have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best, education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to even begin to dig their way out. -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... On 9/20/2012 10:22 AM, Dave wrote: With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for is that you die off before it gets much worse. The*really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's pretty depressing. It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic, purposely dumbed down population. Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot, have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best, education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to even begin to dig their way out. ================================================== ======================== So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya. |
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On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote:
So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya. Nope, you just think you do ... The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to regain it. -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:37:20 -0500, Swingman wrote:
It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic, purposely dumbed down population. Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot, have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best, education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to even begin to dig their way out. We're prepared to let you migrate up to Canada, but between the winters and our system of government, I'm guessing your outlook would deteriorate even more. But, look on the bright side. Drugs are free up here so we will get you completely looped on anti-depressants and it won't cost you anything. :) Or, Estonia could be a solution. :) http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html |
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On 9/20/2012 11:13 AM, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:37:20 -0500, Swingman wrote: It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic, purposely dumbed down population. Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot, have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best, education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to even begin to dig their way out. We're prepared to let you migrate up to Canada, but between the winters and our system of government, I'm guessing your outlook would deteriorate even more. But, look on the bright side. Drugs are free up here so we will get you completely looped on anti-depressants and it won't cost you anything. :) Or, Estonia could be a solution. :) http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html It appears the point you're missing is the collective "you", not the personal ... I don't think you (collective) Canadian's would stand still for that ... besides, little sense in jumping from a 2006 frying pan, into a 2012 fire. :) -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:26:07 -0500, Swingman wrote:
It appears the point you're missing is the collective "you", not the personal ... No, I got the point completely. I just don't have any other choice except to view it on a personal level. Kind of makes your point, doesn't it? |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:37:20 -0500, Swingman wrote:
On 9/20/2012 10:22 AM, Dave wrote: With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for is that you die off before it gets much worse. The*really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's pretty depressing. It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic, purposely dumbed down population. Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot, have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best, education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to even begin to dig their way out. Perhaps it is ironic that Oswald shot Kennedy from the Texas school book repository, given what the Texas requirements for books have done to our education system. |
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On 9/20/2012 11:36 AM, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:26:07 -0500, Swingman wrote: It appears the point you're missing is the collective "you", not the personal ... No, I got the point completely. I just don't have any other choice except to view it on a personal level. Only if you insist on having a myopic view on "freedom" ... Kind of makes your point, doesn't it? Not at all ... see above. -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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On 9/20/2012 11:58 AM, Markem wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:37:20 -0500, Swingman wrote: On 9/20/2012 10:22 AM, Dave wrote: With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for is that you die off before it gets much worse. The*really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's pretty depressing. It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic, purposely dumbed down population. Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot, have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best, education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to even begin to dig their way out. Perhaps it is ironic that Oswald shot Kennedy from the Texas school book repository, given what the Texas requirements for books have done to our education system. Can't argue with you there ... -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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On 9/20/2012 9:20 AM, Jack wrote:
On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote: On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote: CW wrote: Who will Win? Doesn't matter, we lose either way. +1 Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough. If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win? I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular persuasion. The only people that win in elections are candidates. As I have said before, voting gives the voter pretty much the same satisfaction and results that the red button on a squeak toy does for a one year old. Voting is merely a formality before the next in line takes over control. Now if only those that hold office could be held accountable and voted out. And if you have no investment in the country you don't vote. |
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On 9/20/2012 1:04 AM, CW wrote:
Who will Win? That will be determined on the way home. ;~) |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote: So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya. Nope, you just think you do ... The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to regain it. ================================================== ============================ So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before he dies. |
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On 9/20/2012 1:16 PM, CW wrote:
"Swingman" wrote in message ... On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote: So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya. Nope, you just think you do ... The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to regain it. ================================================== ============================ So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before he dies. So uh I think it goes something like this, if you don't learn from those that experienced it/study history, it is destined to repeat it self. |
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Doug Miller writes:
(Scott Lurndal) wrote in : Doug Miller writes: "CW" wrote in news:jYGdnToqvIGQL8fNnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@earthlink .com: Who will Win? Doesn't matter who takes the ALCS, the Nationals will win the Series in six. They must first get past the Giants; That won't be hard. The Nationals have won five of six from the Giants this season. That just means that the Giants are due to win ... Timmy and Matty seem to be back in form, and Barry Zito has been impressive this year. Giants are 8-2 over the last 10 games, and the Nationals are just 5-5; the Giants can still end up with NLCS home field advantage if they keep it up. Go Dodgers (just tonight). who are going to repeat 2010 and beat the Rangers in the series. Keep dreaming... Dreaming would be predicting another earthquake series between the A's and the Giants. scott |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:59:46 -0500, Swingman wrote:
On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote: So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya. Nope, you just think you do ... The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to regain it. Until the populace finally gets fed up and rips 'em a new asshole. Methinks that day is coming soon. Are you stocked up for the interim? Food, water, tools, shelter, and enough ammo to defend it all for several months? Hopefully, our military recognizes that it's a cleansing action by We, The People, against "enemies domestic" and they stay out of it. -- I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves. -- Anna Quindlen |
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"Swingman" wrote in message
... Jack wrote: On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote: On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote: CW wrote: Who will Win? Doesn't matter, we lose either way. +1 Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough. If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win? I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular persuasion. Tried to get on an airplane lately, or take photos of police in action, or just act like you're going to dance at the Washington monument, or know for sure whether the food you buy is non adulterated/GMO, or belong to a co-op that sells raw goat milk to the owners without an up-close and personal SWAT visit, or get raided because you got shipped some legal hardwood for guitar fretboards, or wonder why all that military equipment is going to the local police, or watched your kid at college get pepper sprayed for sitting on a sidewalk on campus, or been waited on by some ill educated, surly minimum wage asshole who can barely speak the language, no matter where they came from, or got .95 cents interest on a $6000 bank balance, or somehow think you actually own your home, until you forget to pay a property tax, or don't know you can't even hold your elected representatives to task for those property tax appraisals, ad ****ing infinitum?? The reality, Bubba, is you've already lost regardless of who won the last twenty elections ... just too ****ing stupid to realize it. +10. But I believe you under-stated the situation.... Also, minimum wage assholes have a semi-right to be surly.... LOL But still, +10, at least. We had a shot with JFK, RFK..... terrible pun, not intended. But, well, they got shot.... -- EA -- www.ewoodshop.com |
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On 9/20/2012 1:16 PM, CW wrote:
"Swingman" wrote in message ... On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote: So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya. Nope, you just think you do ... The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to regain it. ================================================== ============================ So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before he dies. Age is small part of it, simply because it equates with an increase in experience and perspective ... the preponderance is all to do with having sufficient intelligence and education to recognize, and remark upon, what the ignorant miss for lack of both. -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... On 9/20/2012 1:16 PM, CW wrote: "Swingman" wrote in message ... On 9/20/2012 10:45 AM, CW wrote: So the best thing to do is become a grumpy old fart that bitches "it isn't like the old days" and just waits to die. Got ya. Nope, you just think you do ... The reality, and one thing political leaders can count on, is that those who have lost a freedom previously granted to their forefathers, but lost to their generation before they were born, too young to know, or through ignorance, have little chance to ever fight successfully to regain it. ================================================== ============================ So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before he dies. Age is small part of it, simply because it equates with an increase in experience and perspective ... the preponderance is all to do with having sufficient intelligence and education to recognize, and remark upon, what the ignorant miss for lack of both. ================================================== ================================== So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fart before he dies. |
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"CW" wrote: ================================================== ================================== So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fartbefore he dies.----------------------------------------------Especially after having just returned from a trip to bull ****mountain.Lew |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:37:20 -0500, Swingman wrote:
On 9/20/2012 10:22 AM, Dave wrote: With an outlook like that, pretty well the only thing you can hope for is that you die off before it gets much worse. The*really* sad part about it is that all of it maybe true. That's pretty depressing. It is what it is ... just try having been called to serve, and having to actually fight/put your life at risk for your country, and then see how you feel about the current state of affairs brought on by an apathetic, purposely dumbed down population. Those without an age based perspective, and who are ignorant to boot, have little idea what they've lost; and thanks to a marginal, at best, education system, have none of the historical perspective necessary to even begin to dig their way out. The scary part is most people don't see what is happening. The whole food thing and Monsanto is out of control. Todays politicians are just puppets. Mike M |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:06:43 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 9/20/2012 9:20 AM, Jack wrote: On 9/20/2012 9:35 AM, Swingman wrote: On 9/20/2012 8:15 AM, dadiOH wrote: CW wrote: Who will Win? Doesn't matter, we lose either way. +1 Let's see, we have an anti-American communist vs a pro-American capitalist, and we "lose either way". The contrast is fairly large even if Romney is too liberal for you, Obummer can't be "not red" enough. If we lose either way, what would make you think we could win? I give that answer a -4, not a + anything, regardless of your particular persuasion. The only people that win in elections are candidates. As I have said before, voting gives the voter pretty much the same satisfaction and results that the red button on a squeak toy does for a one year old. Voting is merely a formality before the next in line takes over control. Now if only those that hold office could be held accountable and voted out. And if you have no investment in the country you don't vote. +1 |
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On 9/20/2012 6:55 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"CW" wrote: ================================================== ================================== So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fartbefore he dies.----------------------------------------------Especially after having just returned from a trip to bull ****mountain.Lew That is in California, right? |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 22:00:44 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 9/20/2012 6:55 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote: "CW" wrote: ================================================== ================================== So, you want the next generation to listen to the grumpy old fartbefore he dies.----------------------------------------------Especially after having just returned from a trip to bull ****mountain.Lew That is in California, right? No, that's Magic Mountain. I've actually BEEN there! Unless Lew was talking about his home. P.S: When's CW going to get a -usable- Usenet program, anyway? -- I would be the most content if my children grew up to be the kind of people who think decorating consists mostly of building enough bookshelves. -- Anna Quindlen |
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