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Construction Adhesive advice
Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly
lots at times but not submerged. Is there a recommended brand/type that any of you have used and can confirm will work? I will be using screws too, just want the extra strength. -- Froz... The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance. |
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"FrozenNorth" wrote: Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is there a recommended brand/type that any of you have used and can confirm will work? I will be using screws too, just want the extra strength. ------------------------------- 3M5200. Once it sets up, screws become redundant. Lew |
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On 09/16/2012 09:26 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is there a recommended brand/type that any of you have used and can confirm will work? I will be using screws too, just want the extra strength. One of the many variations of liquid nails, depending on the materials to be glued. -- "Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" -Winston Churchill |
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On 9/16/2012 11:55 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"FrozenNorth" wrote: Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is there a recommended brand/type that any of you have used and can confirm will work? I will be using screws too, just want the extra strength. ------------------------------- 3M5200. Once it sets up, screws become redundant. Until the adhesive fails. |
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On Monday, September 17, 2012 6:26:20 AM UTC+2, FrozenNorth wrote:
Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is there a recommended brand/type that any of you have used and can confirm will work? I will be using screws too, just want the extra strength. -- Froz... The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance. I did some testing of various adhesives for some stone to wood products at one point. Liquid Nails was the winner by far over all similar products I found at big box store. Been using it for all sorts of stuff for years. Never had a failure. |
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Once it sets up, screws become redundant. ---------------------------- "Leon" wrote: Until the adhesive fails. ------------------------------- You have obviously never used 5200. Lew |
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On 9/17/2012 2:01 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
I wrote: Once it sets up, screws become redundant. ---------------------------- "Leon" wrote: Until the adhesive fails. ------------------------------- You have obviously never used 5200. Lew You have obviously never seen it fail. |
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On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:26:20 PM UTC-7, FrozenNorth wrote:
Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is this wood-to-wood? If the adhesive will be subject to weather, lots of silicones and exterior caulks are suitable. If it's for panel-to-stud connection, and the panel protects from weather, many of the 'liquid nails' products are just fine. The only problem, is that a moist chunk of wood will stretch, and the glue won't (so you want a weak glue, that's kinda stretchy). |
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On 9/18/2012 4:42 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:26:20 PM UTC-7, FrozenNorth wrote: Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is this wood-to-wood? If the adhesive will be subject to weather, lots of silicones and exterior caulks are suitable. If it's for panel-to-stud connection, and the panel protects from weather, many of the 'liquid nails' products are just fine. The only problem, is that a moist chunk of wood will stretch, and the glue won't (so you want a weak glue, that's kinda stretchy). As a sealer, maybe.... If it's structural though? I've had Liquid Nail and 5200 both fail. I'm a hard core epoxy guy. There are others, but West System was MADE for wood. |
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FrozenNorth wrote: Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is there a recommended brand/type that any of you have used and can confirm will work? I will be using screws too, just want the extra strength. PL Premium polyurethane is good stuff for those conditions. I've even used it on small boats for joints that are under water and it has held up fine. (I'm talking about a boat that is removed from the water when not being used, not one that stays in the water...) -- There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat, plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken) Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org |
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On 9/18/12 7:48 PM, Larry W wrote:
In article , FrozenNorth wrote: Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is there a recommended brand/type that any of you have used and can confirm will work? I will be using screws too, just want the extra strength. PL Premium polyurethane is good stuff for those conditions. I've even used it on small boats for joints that are under water and it has held up fine. (I'm talking about a boat that is removed from the water when not being used, not one that stays in the water...) Life happened, didn't get to it the other day, and it rained all day today. I may try tomorrow, no sign of 3M adhesives in HD or Rona here, I'm in Canada. Plenty of PL products or DAP adhesives, it is straight wood to wood, pressure treated. -- Froz... The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance. |
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"FrozenNorth" wrote: Life happened, didn't get to it the other day, and it rained all day today. I may try tomorrow, no sign of 3M adhesives in HD or Rona here, I'm in Canada. Plenty of PL products or DAP adhesives, it is straight wood to wood, pressure treated. -------------------------------------------- 5200 is available from any marine chandlery. BTW, HD carries 5200 stateside. That info and $1 will get you a cup of coffee in a low price joint. G. Lew |
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On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:10:32 PM UTC-7, Richard wrote:
On 9/18/2012 4:42 PM, whit3rd wrote: On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:26:20 PM UTC-7, FrozenNorth wrote: Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is this wood-to-wood? If the adhesive will be subject to weather, lots of silicones and exterior caulks are suitable. If it's for panel-to-stud connection, and the panel protects from weather, many of the 'liquid nails' products are just fine. The only problem, is that a moist chunk of wood will stretch, and the glue won't (so you want a weak glue, that's kinda stretchy). As a sealer, maybe.... If it's structural though? I've had Liquid Nail and 5200 both fail. I'm a hard core epoxy guy. There are others, but West System was MADE for wood. Yeah, probably right. Epoxy, yes but maybe expensive\difficult for this application but I always have T11 or (whatever the number is) on hand and love it. |
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On 9/19/2012 1:42 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:10:32 PM UTC-7, Richard wrote: On 9/18/2012 4:42 PM, whit3rd wrote: On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:26:20 PM UTC-7, FrozenNorth wrote: Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is this wood-to-wood? If the adhesive will be subject to weather, lots of silicones and exterior caulks are suitable. If it's for panel-to-stud connection, and the panel protects from weather, many of the 'liquid nails' products are just fine. The only problem, is that a moist chunk of wood will stretch, and the glue won't (so you want a weak glue, that's kinda stretchy). As a sealer, maybe.... If it's structural though? I've had Liquid Nail and 5200 both fail. I'm a hard core epoxy guy. There are others, but West System was MADE for wood. Yeah, probably right. Epoxy, yes but maybe expensive\difficult for this application but I always have T11 or (whatever the number is) on hand and love it. T-88? mt favorite too. |
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On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:22:41 PM UTC-7, Richard wrote:
On 9/19/2012 1:42 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote: On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:10:32 PM UTC-7, Richard wrote: On 9/18/2012 4:42 PM, whit3rd wrote: On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:26:20 PM UTC-7, FrozenNorth wrote: Want to do a project tomorrow, exterior use, exposed to water, possibly lots at times but not submerged. Is this wood-to-wood? If the adhesive will be subject to weather, lots of silicones and exterior caulks are suitable. If it's for panel-to-stud connection, and the panel protects from weather, many of the 'liquid nails' products are just fine. The only problem, is that a moist chunk of wood will stretch, and the glue won't (so you want a weak glue, that's kinda stretchy). As a sealer, maybe.... If it's structural though? I've had Liquid Nail and 5200 both fail. I'm a hard core epoxy guy. There are others, but West System was MADE for wood. Yeah, probably right. Epoxy, yes but maybe expensive\difficult for this application but I always have T11 or (whatever the number is) on hand and love it. T-88? mt favorite too. Bingo! |
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