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So... just watching the late night news, and seeing that these new RFI
credit cards have quickly caught the attention of the thieves - no freakin' surprise! Who woulda thunk it? So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. Wait just a minute here - did we - the consumer demand this "cool new card", or was it foisted on us by the credit card companies? Why should the consumer have to take *any* steps to protect themselves? Why would the credit card company not be liable for any fraud perpetrated from their latest (ill thought through...) "idea"? Why are these credit card companies not held criminally liable for these ramifications? Should they not have anticipated this kind of event (it was kind of obvious...), and built in the protections for the consumer? So - the consumer will be the victim, and have to bear the cost of dealing with this - while Visa and MasterCard go blissfully on. Something is really wrong with this picture. -- -Mike- |
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On Wed, 16 May 2012 23:34:06 -0400, Mike Marlow wrote:
So... just watching the late night news, and seeing that these new RFI credit cards have quickly caught the attention of the thieves - no freakin' surprise! Who woulda thunk it? So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. Wait just a minute here - did we - the consumer demand this "cool new card", or was it foisted on us by the credit card companies? Why should the consumer have to take *any* steps to protect themselves? Why would the credit card company not be liable for any fraud perpetrated from their latest (ill thought through...) "idea"? Why are these credit card companies not held criminally liable for these ramifications? Should they not have anticipated this kind of event (it was kind of obvious...), and built in the protections for the consumer? So - the consumer will be the victim, and have to bear the cost of dealing with this - while Visa and MasterCard go blissfully on. Something is really wrong with this picture. No problem, stick it in the microwave for 10 seconds, then only the strip will work. (Maybe) basilisk -- A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse |
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On 05/16/2012 10:34 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
So... just watching the late night news, and seeing that these new RFI credit cards have quickly caught the attention of the thieves - no freakin' surprise! Who woulda thunk it? So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. Wait just a minute here - did we - the consumer demand this "cool new card", or was it foisted on us by the credit card companies? Why should the consumer have to take *any* steps to protect themselves? Why would the credit card company not be liable for any fraud perpetrated from their latest (ill thought through...) "idea"? Why are these credit card companies not held criminally liable for these ramifications? Should they not have anticipated this kind of event (it was kind of obvious...), and built in the protections for the consumer? So - the consumer will be the victim, and have to bear the cost of dealing with this - while Visa and MasterCard go blissfully on. Something is really wrong with this picture. Use cash? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ |
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On Wed, 16 May 2012 23:49:44 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 05/16/2012 10:34 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: So... just watching the late night news, and seeing that these new RFI credit cards have quickly caught the attention of the thieves - no freakin' surprise! Who woulda thunk it? So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. Wait just a minute here - did we - the consumer demand this "cool new card", or was it foisted on us by the credit card companies? Why should the consumer have to take *any* steps to protect themselves? Why would the credit card company not be liable for any fraud perpetrated from their latest (ill thought through...) "idea"? Why are these credit card companies not held criminally liable for these ramifications? Should they not have anticipated this kind of event (it was kind of obvious...), and built in the protections for the consumer? So - the consumer will be the victim, and have to bear the cost of dealing with this - while Visa and MasterCard go blissfully on. Something is really wrong with this picture. Use cash? Using cash will never happen. People have gotten so lazy that they would say that it was easier to swip a card than to dig some moeny out of their wallet. It's not hard to believe that a lot of people out there have no idea how to keep a buget anymore since credit cards have appeared. Paul T. |
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I have a better solution: a center punch (or nail set) and a hammer.
Applied directly over the chip in the card. No more "new" security problems! You still have the same security problems you had before RFID technology, can't help you there. This same technology is in the new US passports. The govt kinda gets upset if you "fix" them though. Better go with the foil-lined wallets there. On May 16, 10:34*pm, "Mike Marlow" wrote: So... just watching the late night news, and seeing that these new RFI credit cards have quickly caught the attention of the thieves - no freakin' surprise! *Who woulda thunk it? So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. |
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On 5/17/2012 2:52 AM, P.H.T. wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2012 23:49:44 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 05/16/2012 10:34 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: So... just watching the late night news, and seeing that these new RFI credit cards have quickly caught the attention of the thieves - no freakin' surprise! Who woulda thunk it? So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. Wait just a minute here - did we - the consumer demand this "cool new card", or was it foisted on us by the credit card companies? Why should the consumer have to take *any* steps to protect themselves? Why would the credit card company not be liable for any fraud perpetrated from their latest (ill thought through...) "idea"? Why are these credit card companies not held criminally liable for these ramifications? Should they not have anticipated this kind of event (it was kind of obvious...), and built in the protections for the consumer? So - the consumer will be the victim, and have to bear the cost of dealing with this - while Visa and MasterCard go blissfully on. Something is really wrong with this picture. Use cash? Using cash will never happen. People have gotten so lazy that they would say that it was easier to swip a card than to dig some moeny out of their wallet. It's not hard to believe that a lot of people out there have no idea how to keep a buget anymore since credit cards have appeared. Paul T. Not to mention I get approximately $500 per year cash back fro using my credit card and I always pay it off monthly. |
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On 5/16/2012 10:34 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
So... just watching the late night news, and seeing that these new RFI credit cards have quickly caught the attention of the thieves - no freakin' surprise! Who woulda thunk it? So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. Wait just a minute here - did we - the consumer demand this "cool new card", or was it foisted on us by the credit card companies? Why should the consumer have to take *any* steps to protect themselves? Why would the credit card company not be liable for any fraud perpetrated from their latest (ill thought through...) "idea"? Why are these credit card companies not held criminally liable for these ramifications? Should they not have anticipated this kind of event (it was kind of obvious...), and built in the protections for the consumer? So - the consumer will be the victim, and have to bear the cost of dealing with this - while Visa and MasterCard go blissfully on. Something is really wrong with this picture. When you go to the checkout to buy something the machine says "Swipe Card" Hmmm, I thought swipe meant "to steal". |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in message So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. Wait just a minute here - did we - the consumer demand this "cool new card", or was it foisted on us by the credit card companies? Why should the consumer have to take *any* steps to protect themselves? Why would the credit card company not be liable for any fraud perpetrated from their latest (ill thought through...) "idea"? Why are these credit card companies not held criminally liable for these ramifications? Should they not have anticipated this kind of event (it was kind of obvious...), and built in the protections for the consumer? So - the consumer will be the victim, and have to bear the cost of dealing with this - while Visa and MasterCard go blissfully on. Something is really wrong with this picture. -- -Mike- I think you can relax a bit. Is this not the same Chip & pin that Europe has used for years? The one that cut fraud by 80%? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2399772,00.asp Just having a credit car number does not get you anything. You still need a PIN or expiration date and security code. As for security and liability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_and_PIN Banks originally not liable by default The Chip and PIN implementation was criticised as designed to reduce the liability of banks in cases of claimed card fraud by requiring the customer to prove that they had acted "with reasonable care" to protect their PIN and card, rather than on the bank having to prove that the signature matched. Before Chip and PIN, if a customer's signature was forged, the banks were legally liable and had to reimburse the customer. Until 1 November 2009 there was no such law protecting consumers from fraudulent use of their Chip and PIN transactions, only the voluntary Banking Code. While this code stated that the burden of proof is on the bank to prove negligence or fraud rather than the cardholder having to prove innocence, [7] there were many reports that banks refused to reimburse victims of fraudulent card use, claiming that their systems could not fail under the circumstances reported, despite several documented successful large-scale attacks. This changed on 1 November 2009 when legal, rather than voluntary, regulations came into force requiring banks to reimburse cardholders unless they could prove that the transaction was authorised by the cardholder.[6] |
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Leon wrote:
On 5/17/2012 2:52 AM, P.H.T. wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2012 23:49:44 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 05/16/2012 10:34 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: So... just watching the late night news, and seeing that these new RFI credit cards have quickly caught the attention of the thieves - no freakin' surprise! Who woulda thunk it? So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. Wait just a minute here - did we - the consumer demand this "cool new card", or was it foisted on us by the credit card companies? Why should the consumer have to take *any* steps to protect themselves? Why would the credit card company not be liable for any fraud perpetrated from their latest (ill thought through...) "idea"? Why are these credit card companies not held criminally liable for these ramifications? Should they not have anticipated this kind of event (it was kind of obvious...), and built in the protections for the consumer? So - the consumer will be the victim, and have to bear the cost of dealing with this - while Visa and MasterCard go blissfully on. Something is really wrong with this picture. Use cash? Using cash will never happen. People have gotten so lazy that they would say that it was easier to swip a card than to dig some moeny out of their wallet. It's not hard to believe that a lot of people out there have no idea how to keep a buget anymore since credit cards have appeared. Paul T. Not to mention I get approximately $500 per year cash back fro using my credit card and I always pay it off monthly. The contractor who built my house (When I lived in Texas) bought all the building materials through a credit card. That summer he and his wife vacationed in Hawaii from the air miles and cash back. -- G.W. Ross I'm too smart to let my intelligence go to my head. |
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On 5/16/2012 10:49 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 05/16/2012 10:34 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: So... just watching the late night news, and seeing that these new RFI credit cards have quickly caught the attention of the thieves - no freakin' surprise! Who woulda thunk it? So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. Wait just a minute here - did we - the consumer demand this "cool new card", or was it foisted on us by the credit card companies? Why should the consumer have to take *any* steps to protect themselves? Why would the credit card company not be liable for any fraud perpetrated from their latest (ill thought through...) "idea"? Why are these credit card companies not held criminally liable for these ramifications? Should they not have anticipated this kind of event (it was kind of obvious...), and built in the protections for the consumer? So - the consumer will be the victim, and have to bear the cost of dealing with this - while Visa and MasterCard go blissfully on. Something is really wrong with this picture. Use cash? I do use cash.....theirs...for approximately 28 days. :-) And I get cash back. I once had a GM card where I accumulated a $4600 credit on a new GM vehicle. When I dickered the price down to as low as I could and then agreed to buy, the salesman nearly choked when I told him about my $4600 credit. |
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On 5/17/2012 10:38 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
- Despite what you may see in the popular press, the Next Big Thing in technology isn't some game or the Facebook IPO. The NBT is here, it's called "Big Data". You're a bit behind times, Bubba ... it is not the next big thing, we in fact are well past that leading edge. This is exactly what Facebook, and Google, have been intent on since coming onto the scene, collecting that "big data" is both entities sole reason for existence ... Google is especially adept at it due to the opportunities their search engine algorithms provide, as well as their mobile Android OS. It is, in fact, the wellspring of Google's revenue. Facebook are still newbies at the game and Google is lightyears ahead of them in that aspect, despite Facebook's 900,000,000 user base Anyone who uses a smart phone, along with the apps that run on same, Android and IOS, are, in some cases unwittingly, also providing the grist for the "big data" mill. Right now, collection is being driven by advertisement revenues, but that is only the tip of the iceberg since the government realized a good while ago that they needed to be in the game. But you're right .... reading, and understanding, TOS' is getting both more and more important, and more and more futile. We are indeed toast ... -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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Max wrote:
I do use cash.....theirs...for approximately 28 days. :-) And I get cash back. I once had a GM card where I accumulated a $4600 credit on a new GM vehicle. When I dickered the price down to as low as I could and then agreed to buy, the salesman nearly choked when I told him about my $4600 credit. Don't know why he would. That credit did not affect him or the dealership one bit. That discount comes right off of GM's balance sheet. Generally dealerships like these types of things because it closes a deal and does not cost them a nickle. I suspect the salesman either did not understand how this stuff works, or he really wasn't as choked up as you might have thought. -- -Mike- |
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On 5/17/2012 11:02 AM, G.W. Ross wrote:
Leon wrote: On 5/17/2012 2:52 AM, P.H.T. wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2012 23:49:44 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 05/16/2012 10:34 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: So... just watching the late night news, and seeing that these new RFI credit cards have quickly caught the attention of the thieves - no freakin' surprise! Who woulda thunk it? So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. Wait just a minute here - did we - the consumer demand this "cool new card", or was it foisted on us by the credit card companies? Why should the consumer have to take *any* steps to protect themselves? Why would the credit card company not be liable for any fraud perpetrated from their latest (ill thought through...) "idea"? Why are these credit card companies not held criminally liable for these ramifications? Should they not have anticipated this kind of event (it was kind of obvious...), and built in the protections for the consumer? So - the consumer will be the victim, and have to bear the cost of dealing with this - while Visa and MasterCard go blissfully on. Something is really wrong with this picture. Use cash? Using cash will never happen. People have gotten so lazy that they would say that it was easier to swip a card than to dig some moeny out of their wallet. It's not hard to believe that a lot of people out there have no idea how to keep a buget anymore since credit cards have appeared. Paul T. Not to mention I get approximately $500 per year cash back fro using my credit card and I always pay it off monthly. The contractor who built my house (When I lived in Texas) bought all the building materials through a credit card. That summer he and his wife vacationed in Hawaii from the air miles and cash back. We moved over 700 miles about 9 months ago. The credit card was the only way to pay the movers. The last time I moved, many years ago, we had to have a certified check for the cost when the movers picked up the furniture. This was bad for two reasons. One it was inconvenient trying to get to the bank while you are trying to complete other things that had to be done as part of the move, and having that large of a check in the insecure situation. Two: The movers were then responsible for carrying the large negotiable check around in their truck. We also got a large number of "Thank you points" for the transaction. I am a Republican and know the need for a budget whether personal, a business or a country, so we do 90% of our purchases by credit card. I can down load the transactions, and see exactly where our money is going. I can easily see when one of the categories is going out of line. |
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On 5/17/2012 12:56 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 5/17/2012 10:38 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: - Despite what you may see in the popular press, the Next Big Thing in technology isn't some game or the Facebook IPO. The NBT is here, it's called "Big Data". You're a bit behind times, Bubba ... it is not the next big thing, we in fact are well past that leading edge. Yeah, that is what I was thinking, I recall several computer magazines describing the 90's as the decade of information/data. This is exactly what Facebook, and Google, have been intent on since coming onto the scene, collecting that "big data" is both entities sole reason for existence ... Google is especially adept at it due to the opportunities their search engine algorithms provide, as well as their mobile Android OS. It is, in fact, the wellspring of Google's revenue. And think about what your cable box has been collecting all these years. Facebook are still newbies at the game and Google is lightyears ahead of them in that aspect, despite Facebook's 900,000,000 user base Anyone who uses a smart phone, along with the apps that run on same, Android and IOS, are, in some cases unwittingly, also providing the grist for the "big data" mill. Right now, collection is being driven by advertisement revenues, but that is only the tip of the iceberg since the government realized a good while ago that they needed to be in the game. But you're right .... reading, and understanding, TOS' is getting both more and more important, and more and more futile. We are indeed toast ... |
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On 5/17/2012 12:50 PM, Max wrote:
On 5/16/2012 10:49 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 05/16/2012 10:34 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: So... just watching the late night news, and seeing that these new RFI credit cards have quickly caught the attention of the thieves - no freakin' surprise! Who woulda thunk it? So - the "advice" to the consumer is to take extra measures - buy new "special" wallets to protect your RFI card from being hijacked. Wait just a minute here - did we - the consumer demand this "cool new card", or was it foisted on us by the credit card companies? Why should the consumer have to take *any* steps to protect themselves? Why would the credit card company not be liable for any fraud perpetrated from their latest (ill thought through...) "idea"? Why are these credit card companies not held criminally liable for these ramifications? Should they not have anticipated this kind of event (it was kind of obvious...), and built in the protections for the consumer? So - the consumer will be the victim, and have to bear the cost of dealing with this - while Visa and MasterCard go blissfully on. Something is really wrong with this picture. Use cash? I do use cash.....theirs...for approximately 28 days. :-) And I get cash back. I once had a GM card where I accumulated a $4600 credit on a new GM vehicle. When I dickered the price down to as low as I could and then agreed to buy, the salesman nearly choked when I told him about my $4600 credit. I did the same but in 1997, $3600 IIRC the salesmen did not care, the dealership was not loosing any money, they simply collected that amount directly from that GM entity. And truly I am not sure the salesman ever knew about that credit as that was all handled in the closing/finance office. Pleas write us a check for "X" - $3600 and please verify that you want to take your credit at this time with the GM Card rep on our telephone. |
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On 05/17/2012 04:09 PM, Leon wrote:
On 5/17/2012 12:56 PM, Swingman wrote: On 5/17/2012 10:38 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: - Despite what you may see in the popular press, the Next Big Thing in technology isn't some game or the Facebook IPO. The NBT is here, it's called "Big Data". You're a bit behind times, Bubba ... it is not the next big thing, we in fact are well past that leading edge. Yeah, that is what I was thinking, I recall several computer magazines describing the 90's as the decade of information/data. But that's not what I was talking about. "Big Data" is something relatively new. Google kicked it off, but it's really hit its stride outside Google (and government) within the last year or two. In the 1990s we were talking about gigabytes. In the 2000s it was petabytes. We're now at exabytes and mining data at that scale has never before been practical until very recently. The other thing that's changed is the ubiquity of "smart" devices - phones, credit cards, cars, appliances, and so on. Assuming someone has access to these devices via some network connection, they are all providers of new data to be mined. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ |
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Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 05/17/2012 04:09 PM, Leon wrote: On 5/17/2012 12:56 PM, Swingman wrote: On 5/17/2012 10:38 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: - Despite what you may see in the popular press, the Next Big Thing in technology isn't some game or the Facebook IPO. The NBT is here, it's called "Big Data". You're a bit behind times, Bubba ... it is not the next big thing, we in fact are well past that leading edge. Yeah, that is what I was thinking, I recall several computer magazines describing the 90's as the decade of information/data. But that's not what I was talking about. "Big Data" is something relatively new. Google kicked it off, but it's really hit its stride outside Google (and government) within the last year or two. In the 1990s we were talking about gigabytes. In the 2000s it was petabytes. We're now at exabytes and mining data at that scale has never before been practical until very recently. The other thing that's changed is the ubiquity of "smart" devices - phones, credit cards, cars, appliances, and so on. Assuming someone has access to these devices via some network connection, they are all providers of new data to be mined. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-574...news&tag=title -- www.ewoodshop.com |
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On 5/17/2012 11:59 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Max wrote: I do use cash.....theirs...for approximately 28 days. :-) And I get cash back. I once had a GM card where I accumulated a $4600 credit on a new GM vehicle. When I dickered the price down to as low as I could and then agreed to buy, the salesman nearly choked when I told him about my $4600 credit. Don't know why he would. That credit did not affect him or the dealership one bit. That discount comes right off of GM's balance sheet. Generally dealerships like these types of things because it closes a deal and does not cost them a nickle. I suspect the salesman either did not understand how this stuff works, or he really wasn't as choked up as you might have thought. "Choked" might not have been the appropriate word. I think he was surprised at the amount of the credit he was looking at. He surely must have wondered how I accumulated that much. We charge virtually everything. I really enjoy the rebates. ;-) Max |
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"Max" wrote in message b.com... On 5/17/2012 11:59 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Max wrote: I do use cash.....theirs...for approximately 28 days. :-) And I get cash back. I once had a GM card where I accumulated a $4600 credit on a new GM vehicle. When I dickered the price down to as low as I could and then agreed to buy, the salesman nearly choked when I told him about my $4600 credit. Don't know why he would. That credit did not affect him or the dealership one bit. That discount comes right off of GM's balance sheet. Generally dealerships like these types of things because it closes a deal and does not cost them a nickle. I suspect the salesman either did not understand how this stuff works, or he really wasn't as choked up as you might have thought. "Choked" might not have been the appropriate word. I think he was surprised at the amount of the credit he was looking at. He surely must have wondered how I accumulated that much. We charge virtually everything. I really enjoy the rebates. ;-) Max Where I ran into issues with the GM card was that despite having a large credit built up they would only allow specific, much lower, amounts to be used on the vehicle models I was interested in purchasing for my commuter car. I bought a Honda instead, that has a lower total cost of ownership, and started using a credit card with cash back and $.15 gal off on gas.... equates to real dollars of $40-60 per month between those two features plus a lower total cost of ownership over the GMs that will run about $6K over 5 years. Round numbers that totals about $9,000 over 5 years which is better than GM credits that cannot be redeemed... Spend the money saved on tools, wood and other fun things... John .....been gaming card programs for years for fun and profit! |
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On May 17, 12:56*pm, Swingman wrote:
On 5/17/2012 10:38 AM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: : snippage : Anyone who uses a smart phone, along with the apps that run on same, Android and IOS, are, in some cases unwittingly, also providing the grist for the "big data" mill. :snippage: We are indeed toast ... If you know what you are doing, you can avoid being a marketing info goldmine through rooting and modding your phone. My phone is rooted with a ROM with CIQ removed and I have disabled all location services. I know they can still gather location information, simply by my usage of the phone (cell tower location) and probably via other methods, but the utility of these phones is amazing and enough for me to accept the intrusions into my privacy. SconnieRoadie |
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