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Vacuum dust coll. system
I'm finishing up the building of my new hobby shop in the backyard and I =
want to eventually add a vacuum system. My building is small, the area = that I have reserved for woodworking after the storage area is occupied = will only be about 10x18 which is basically a big room....not a = man-sized woodshop but I'll make it work with some good organizing and = strategic location of tools etc. What I what to do is setup some sort of = a basic vacuum system using a good shop vac. While doing some research = on the net I ran across this idea at Tyler Tool's website. = http://tylertool.store.yahoo.com/sh80sawducos.html It looks to be something workable for my needs but I would like some = advice or possibly some better ideas or suggestions, maybe from past or = current experiences. I can't afford or justify a regular dust collection = system unless there is something available that is comparable in price = with this setup. I would have about $135 or so wrapped up a Shop Vac = system from this site using their dust collection system and a QSP vac = (w/2 1/2" dia. hose). TIA --=20 Thanks, Rick |
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:29:27 GMT, "Rick P."
wrote: I'm finishing up the building of my new hobby shop in the backyard and I want to eventually add a vacuum system. My building is small, the area that I have reserved for woodworking after the storage area is occupied will only be about 10x18 which is basically a big room....not a man-sized woodshop but I'll make it work with some good organizing and strategic location of tools etc. What I what to do is setup some sort of a basic vacuum system using a good shop vac. While doing some research on the net I ran across this idea at Tyler Tool's website. http://tylertool.store.yahoo.com/sh80sawducos.html It looks to be something workable for my needs but I would like some advice or possibly some better ideas or suggestions, maybe from past or current experiences. I can't afford or justify a regular dust collection system unless there is something available that is comparable in price with this setup. I would have about $135 or so wrapped up a Shop Vac system from this site using their dust collection system and a QSP vac (w/2 1/2" dia. hose). TIA this: http://tinyurl.com/53txb and this: http://tinyurl.com/6t7pd |
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"Han" wrote in message ... wrote in news:jkm7g0d03j9gpr12rqnfb4n780tfho5kqg@ 4ax.com: this: http://tinyurl.com/53txb and this: http://tinyurl.com/6t7pd But 30 micron is about 100 times too big. I think you need better filtration than 30 microns. -- 30 micron filtration is better than no filtration at all. You can buy lower micron bags to fit. Greg |
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:08:25 -0500, "Greg O" calmly
ranted: 30 micron filtration is better than no filtration at all. You can buy lower micron bags to fit. Not if it gives you a false sense of security. You can end up doing more damage thinking you're safe. - The advantage of exercising every day is that you die healthier. ------------ http://diversify.com Dynamic Websites, PHP Apps, MySQL databases |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:08:25 -0500, "Greg O" calmly ranted: 30 micron filtration is better than no filtration at all. You can buy lower micron bags to fit. Not if it gives you a false sense of security. You can end up doing more damage thinking you're safe. So it is better to just blow the dust all over the shop than catching the majority of it? Many people would not have dust collection at all if they HAD to have .5 micron collection abilities. Most wood workers I know just let the dust fly, no collection, no dust masks. I feel a bunch better with my 30 micron bags than no dust collector at all! The air is cleaner with my 30 micron bags than with nothing. Sure, some of the small, gonna get you later dust is still in the air, but in much smaller amounts than before. Greg |
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:29:27 GMT, "Rick P."
wrote: I'm finishing up the building of my new hobby shop in the backyard and I want to eventually add a vacuum system. My building is small, the area that I have reserved for woodworking after the storage area is occupied will only be about 10x18 which is basically a big room....not a man-sized woodshop but I'll make it work with some good organizing and strategic location of tools etc. What I what to do is setup some sort of a basic vacuum system using a good shop vac. While doing some research on the net I ran across this idea at Tyler Tool's website. http://tylertool.store.yahoo.com/sh80sawducos.html It looks to be something workable for my needs but I would like some advice or possibly some better ideas or suggestions, maybe from past or current experiences. I can't afford or justify a regular dust collection system unless there is something available that is comparable in price with this setup. I would have about $135 or so wrapped up a Shop Vac system from this site using their dust collection system and a QSP vac (w/2 1/2" dia. hose). TIA \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\\\ Venture over to your local Sears or Home Depot and look at their clear plastic tubes and fittings that they sell to use a shop Vac as a dust collector... I run a real dust collector in my shop and have a second smaller 1 Hp DC dedicated to a planner and router table... BUT I also got damn tired of dragging my shop vac all over the shop ...when I needed to use the vac cleaner.... SO I went over the Home Depot and spent a small fortune (13 little orange blast gates, umteeen connectors and tubes along with plenty of elbows etc... ).... I at least now have a central vac system in the shop where I can reach into every corner with a single 8 foot hose just by plugging in the hose to a blast gate...as I walk around the shop. Works fine as a vac... BUT PLEASE DO NOT even think this set up is a dust collector...it simply is not... By attaching it to your machines you will end up with a cleaner shop (but not a dust free or even close to dust free shop).. My purpose (even with the 2 DC's and the vac system) was a cleaner shop...less sawdust on my clothes and on my shoes to be dragged into the house etc... NOT a dust free (and healthy) workplace... My Vac system "sucks" much better then either of the DC's BUT it was not capable of removing much of the fine dust generated at the saw blade or router bit of my machines... That said I am completely happy with my "Central Vac System" .. Bob Griffiths |
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I would consider the $99 portable 1hp dust collector from harbor
freight. I bought the larger 2hp stationary version of that system and am very happy with the quality of it. I did lots of research before pulling the trigger, including searching this site for previous discussions on the unit, and lots of people were incredibly satisfied with it. I saw the portable unit up close, and considered it to be of very good construction quality. the advantage would be stronger suction, and the ability to run 4" ducting (note at the site they offer a $39 ducting set). With 4" you'll do much better getting the little stuff out of the air. Good luck. (sorry, I don't know why this didn't copy as a link! but here's the site) http://order.harborfreight.com/EasyA...20PDT%202 004 "Rick P." wrote in message ... I'm finishing up the building of my new hobby shop in the backyard and I want to eventually add a vacuum system. My building is small, the area that I have reserved for woodworking after the storage area is occupied will only be about 10x18 which is basically a big room....not a man-sized woodshop but I'll make it work with some good organizing and strategic location of tools etc. What I what to do is setup some sort of a basic vacuum system using a good shop vac. While doing some research on the net I ran across this idea at Tyler Tool's website. http://tylertool.store.yahoo.com/sh80sawducos.html It looks to be something workable for my needs but I would like some advice or possibly some better ideas or suggestions, maybe from past or current experiences. I can't afford or justify a regular dust collection system unless there is something available that is comparable in price with this setup. I would have about $135 or so wrapped up a Shop Vac system from this site using their dust collection system and a QSP vac (w/2 1/2" dia. hose). TIA |
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Okay guys, thanks for all the info. I didn't mean to spark an indepth =
argument about health issues but some very good points were brought up = that I will consider. In fact, the need for a shop vac still exists to = help keep the area clean (plus cars etc.) so will get one, also, I = think I will go with the 1hp portable DC either Grizzly, Delta or HF. I = saw a nice Delta 1hp port. at Lowes yesterday for $119. That should be = sufficient for the little bit of work I get to enjoy. Maybe if I am = still experiencing a dust problem after that I can add a benchtop air = filtration system. Thanks, Rick |
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"Rick P." wrote in message .. .
Okay guys, thanks for all the info. I didn't mean to spark an indepth argument about health issues but some very good points were brought up that I will consider. In fact, the need for a shop vac still exists to help keep the area clean (plus cars etc.) so will get one, also, I think I will go with the 1hp portable DC either Grizzly, Delta or HF. I saw a nice Delta 1hp port. at Lowes yesterday for $119. That should be sufficient for the little bit of work I get to enjoy. Maybe if I am still experiencing a dust problem after that I can add a benchtop air filtration system. Thanks, Rick If you know someone in the hvac biz, or salvage, you can save a couple hundred bucks, if you need an overall room dust filter. Aquire an old heater/AC blower, mount in plywood box behind a filter arrangement. Hang from ceiling. I've seen plans online you could probably google. IIRC, you use several filters in series. I've also reaseached using 1 micron filters with such a setup, but the price of the filters makes it cheaper to buy the whole unit already built. Also, I've heard it's a good idea to have a time delay switch, so when you leave your shop for the day, the filter continues to clean the air for awhile, letting less dust settle. |
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Vacuum dust coll. system
If you know someone in the hvac biz, or salvage, you can save a couple hundred bucks, if you need an overall room dust filter. Aquire an old heater/AC blower, mount in plywood box behind a filter arrangement. Hang from ceiling. I've seen plans online you could probably google. IIRC, you use several filters in series. I've also reaseached using 1 micron filters with such a setup, but the price of the filters makes it cheaper to buy the whole unit already built. Also, I've heard it's a good idea to have a time delay switch, so when you leave your shop for the day, the filter continues to clean the air for awhile, letting less dust settle. ============== Both of my sons are HVAC Contractors...and I got my squirrle cage blowers for free...so I made a few filters ..plus I purchased a Delta Air cleaner prior to making a few of my own... The home made ones work about 90 percent as good as the Delta... without using any of the expensive bag filters... just plain old furnace filters... I am NOT interested in protecting my Lungs in the workshop... BUT I enjoy working in a clean place...and if a clean place is better for my health it is a bonus I will accept... \My comment on the home made ones working almost as good as the Delta ONLY is made frrom the amount of "dust" that accumulates on the filters in a given period of time... The reallity is that the Delta with its bag filter does remove the really small stuff better..BUT when I open the door to the shop in the morning I do not have any layer of dust on the table saws top etc... That is good enough for me... The timers are EXTREMELY Important...mine run 2 hours after I turn off the lights... Bob Griffiths |
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