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Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet
goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. JP |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Jay Pique writes:
Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. JP Reason #1) No dollars. Reason #2) No space. scott |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
yup that's about the list
"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message .. . Jay Pique writes: Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. JP Reason #1) No dollars. Reason #2) No space. scott |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Scott Lurndal wrote:
Reason #1) No dollars. Reason #2) No space. And if I might add to the list, the dollars it would take to buy one would take away from the dollars to buy a stroke sander and the space it would take up would take space away from the space where'd I'd be keeping my stroke sander. UA100, who'd much rather have a stroke sander any day... |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
"Jay Pique" wrote in message ... Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. It prolly is. Just how much moola you got to throw at this hobby? |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. JP Because not everyone has the money. hehe. Also the panel saw is awesome but it is limited in its function so not everyone has the need of a specialty tool. Never used a sliding table saw so dont know if its better or not. I would love to have the sliding table saw to try it out. Rich |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:33:45 GMT, Unisaw A100
wrote: Scott Lurndal wrote: Reason #1) No dollars. Reason #2) No space. And if I might add to the list, the dollars it would take to buy one would take away from the dollars to buy a stroke sander and the space it would take up would take space away from the space where'd I'd be keeping my stroke sander. Ooooh yeah - I've simply GOT to get one of those as well. Maybe I'd better add another thousand feet to my fictitious shop so I can properly house my imaginary panel saw and stroke sander. JP ******************** What budget? |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:19:52 GMT, "patrick conroy"
wrote: "Jay Pique" wrote in message .. . Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. It prolly is. Just how much moola you got to throw at this hobby? Let's see...gross income less FICA plus illegal gambling gains less social security plus change stolen from neighbors couch divided by avacados number equals right around "zero". I am, however, a "paid professional", whatever that means. JP ************* Learning. |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:58:27 -0400, Jay Pique
wrote: Ooooh yeah - I've simply GOT to get one of those as well. Yeah, but are you actually going to _make_ anything ? |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Andy Dingley wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:58:27 -0400, Jay Pique wrote: Ooooh yeah - I've simply GOT to get one of those as well. Yeah, but are you actually going to _make_ anything ? Maybe not, but it's nice to know I *could*! g -- Mark |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
I am curious as to what you mean by "limited in it function"?
I have two in the shop one is unable to use dado blades and the other one is dado capable. Other than this fact what is limited about these saws? As compared to any decent cabinetmaking saw??? I find them to be far more useful and productive than a regular table saw. Chris "Rich" wrote in message om... Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. JP Because not everyone has the money. hehe. Also the panel saw is awesome but it is limited in its function so not everyone has the need of a specialty tool. Never used a sliding table saw so dont know if its better or not. I would love to have the sliding table saw to try it out. Rich |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Mark Jerde wrote:
Ooooh yeah - I've simply GOT to get one of those as well. Yeah, but are you actually going to _make_ anything ? Maybe not, but it's nice to know I *could*! g That's been my theory all along. Who the hell can afford wood after buying all this stuff? -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN http://www.mortimerschnerd.com |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:00:59 -0400, Jay Pique
wrote: |On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:19:52 GMT, "patrick conroy" wrote: | | |"Jay Pique" wrote in message . .. | | Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet | goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. | |It prolly is. |Just how much moola you got to throw at this hobby? | |Let's see...gross income less FICA plus illegal gambling gains less |social security plus change stolen from neighbors couch divided by |avacados number equals right around "zero". I am, however, a "paid |professional", whatever that means. I'm confused. Do you mean "Avogadro's number" (6.02*10^23) or "avocado"? Which brings up the question, can you make anything out of avocado (persea) other than guacamole? [g] |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Wes Stewart wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:00:59 -0400, Jay Pique wrote: |On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:19:52 GMT, "patrick conroy" wrote: | | |"Jay Pique" wrote in message . .. | | Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet | goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. | |It prolly is. |Just how much moola you got to throw at this hobby? | |Let's see...gross income less FICA plus illegal gambling gains less |social security plus change stolen from neighbors couch divided by |avacados number equals right around "zero". I am, however, a "paid |professional", whatever that means. I'm confused. Do you mean "Avogadro's number" (6.02*10^23) or "avocado"? Which brings up the question, can you make anything out of avocado (persea) other than guacamole? [g] Avacados (a vaca dos): To two cows? Avacados number ::= 2 (-: -- Morris Dovey DeSoto, Iowa USA |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Reason #1) No dollars. Reason #2) No space. I saw a good one go at auction for $100. I wanted it so badly, but then reason #2 kicked in. |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
I'm also wondering about all the "no money, no space" justifications. I
have a 9x19 shop with no table saw. The bandsaw is my primary saw. I was considering building a panel saw and mounting it on the wall. It seems me that would be relatively inexpensive and wouldn't take up that much room mounted on the wall. Am I missing something? Mark "Chris Melanson" wrote in message news:xFYLc.108903$eO.97494@edtnps89... I am curious as to what you mean by "limited in it function"? I have two in the shop one is unable to use dado blades and the other one is dado capable. Other than this fact what is limited about these saws? As compared to any decent cabinetmaking saw??? I find them to be far more useful and productive than a regular table saw. Chris "Rich" wrote in message om... Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. JP Because not everyone has the money. hehe. Also the panel saw is awesome but it is limited in its function so not everyone has the need of a specialty tool. Never used a sliding table saw so dont know if its better or not. I would love to have the sliding table saw to try it out. Rich |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 02:54:20 GMT, "Mark Wells"
wrote: I'm also wondering about all the "no money, no space" justifications. I have a 9x19 shop with no table saw. The bandsaw is my primary saw. I was considering building a panel saw and mounting it on the wall. It seems me that would be relatively inexpensive and wouldn't take up that much room mounted on the wall. Am I missing something? Mark in use (if you use them for ripping) they take up *16 feet* of wall. I can set up 3 pretty good sized machines in that space... |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Bridger responds:
I'm also wondering about all the "no money, no space" justifications. I have a 9x19 shop with no table saw. The bandsaw is my primary saw. I was considering building a panel saw and mounting it on the wall. It seems me that would be relatively inexpensive and wouldn't take up that much room mounted on the wall. Am I missing something? Mark in use (if you use them for ripping) they take up *16 feet* of wall. I can set up 3 pretty good sized machines in that space... It will also tilt out a couple feet and is easier to use if you've got another few inches shoulder clearance to muscle the boards up to it. I've got a 25' x 48' shop, and couldn't find space for one if I tried. Besides, I'll be ripping a lot of 6-8" tulip poplar down to face frame width this weekend, so I don't really see the benefit for me. I do cut some panels, maybe about 10 a year. To pay $1000 and more for a machine that is necessary that few times drives me right over to my circular saw and straight edge. Someone noted he had two panel saws, one fitted for regular cutting, one for dados. Sounds like fun, but his shop must be the size of a blimp hanger. I'm not at all sure, either, how large a dado set one of them would swing, nor how will it does tilted, nor how well a molding head would fit, nor...just a whole bunch of things. Can you do a stopped dado? And on from there. Charlie Self "I think the most un-American thing you can say is, 'You can't say that.' " Garrison Keillor |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
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Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
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Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
"Chris Melanson" wrote in message news:xFYLc.108903$eO.97494@edtnps89... I am curious as to what you mean by "limited in it function"? I have two in the shop one is unable to use dado blades and the other one is dado capable. Other than this fact what is limited about these saws? As compared to any decent cabinetmaking saw??? I find them to be far more useful and productive than a regular table saw. There maybe panel saws on the market that can cut sheet good at an angle, but the one in my local Home Depot only cuts vertical and horizontal. What about diagonal? |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
I think that is it. For a lot of cutting something like this could pay for
itself. JG http://www.mytoolstore.com/milwauke/6480.html MikeG wrote: In article , says... Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. JP A, good ones are expensive B, they take up space better used in other ways C, Might be a good investment if all you ever cut is sheet goods but..................... D, see C -- MikeG Heirloom Woods www.heirloom-woods.net |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
JGS writes:
For a lot of cutting something like this could pay for itself. JG http://www.mytoolstore.com/milwauke/6480.html Probably. But what do you do with the cabinet grade particle board like that I currently am using: it is 144" x 25". Charlie Self "I think the most un-American thing you can say is, 'You can't say that.' " Garrison Keillor |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:05:43 -0400, Jay Pique wrote:
Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. JP Cooking show (Good Eats -- Recommended) host Alton Brown puts it this way: "The only single tasker I permit in my kitchen is the fire extinguisher." Instead of a garlic press, he uses a marble scrap he got for free from a tile guy. Were I making kitchen cabinets for a living, I'd consider the benefits. BUT, for me, the money-space budget simply doesn't justify it. I setup sheetgoods on horses with a shop-built guide and cut everything to finished size at the top of the project with a circular saw. If it's raining, I might have to rearrange my garage. Considering it's "Just a circular saw . . " I've done quite a lot of good accurate woodworking with it. Great multitasker for the guy (*WAVES*) for whom dissecting sheet goods on a contractor saw is outside of his comfort/safety zone. Even if I had a Nahm budget, I'm not sure I'd want one, any more than I think I'd want his dedicated pocket hole machine and resaw bandsaw, though obviously if I'm building hundreds of face frames or working with exotic veneers, that all changes. *checks to see if SWMBO is reading* *convinced he's alone, starts sketching how to arrange things to fit the panel saw, pocket hole machine, Laguna Megablurfl . . . * |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Don't you mean "highly comensated professional..."?
And, thanx for reminding me I have a couple avocados waiting to be converted to guacamole. Renata On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:00:59 -0400, Jay Pique wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:19:52 GMT, "patrick conroy" wrote: "Jay Pique" wrote in message . .. Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. It prolly is. Just how much moola you got to throw at this hobby? Let's see...gross income less FICA plus illegal gambling gains less social security plus change stolen from neighbors couch divided by avacados number equals right around "zero". I am, however, a "paid professional", whatever that means. JP ************* Learning. |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
"U-CDK_CHARLES\Charles" "Charles wrote in message ... Cooking show (Good Eats -- Recommended) host Alton Brown puts it this way: "The only single tasker I permit in my kitchen is the fire extinguisher." Instead of a garlic press, he uses a marble scrap he got for free from a tile guy. Oh bull! Everyone knows a fire extinguisher is not a single task device. Hell - it can be used as an excellent rolling pin, and all of us know that it can also be called upon to act as a hammer in a pinch, when you simply must drive that 16D through the cutting board to hold it in place, but can't run out to the garage for the claw hammer. -- -Mike- |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:29:54 +0100, Andy Dingley
wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:58:27 -0400, Jay Pique wrote: Ooooh yeah - I've simply GOT to get one of those as well. Yeah, but are you actually going to _make_ anything ? Sawdust? JP *************** Tooling up. |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:07:06 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:00:59 -0400, Jay Pique wrote: |On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:19:52 GMT, "patrick conroy" wrote: | | |"Jay Pique" wrote in message ... | | Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet | goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. | |It prolly is. |Just how much moola you got to throw at this hobby? | |Let's see...gross income less FICA plus illegal gambling gains less |social security plus change stolen from neighbors couch divided by |avacados number equals right around "zero". I am, however, a "paid |professional", whatever that means. I'm confused. Do you mean "Avogadro's number" (6.02*10^23) or "avocado"? Which brings up the question, can you make anything out of avocado (persea) other than guacamole? [g] The pits make excellent ammo for my giant slingshot. JP ********** Peace through superior firepower. |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
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Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Which brings up the question, can you make anything out of avocado
(persea) other than guacamole? [g] You could make a good pile of excrement. Wayne |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:16:16 GMT, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
wrote: Mark Jerde wrote: Ooooh yeah - I've simply GOT to get one of those as well. Yeah, but are you actually going to _make_ anything ? Maybe not, but it's nice to know I *could*! g That's been my theory all along. Who the hell can afford wood after buying all this stuff? That's always my problem. Don't have jointer or planer at this time, so I try to work with s4s, which means I can't afford to make anything bigger than a breadbox. If I could afford the planer and jointer I could buy cheaper rough lumber, but after buying the tools I wouldn't have the dough to buy even rough-sawn. I could always go neander and buy rough and surface it with a hand plane, but with the amount of shop time I usually get that would mean I can only finish one project a decade instead of my current one every 5 years.... Life is hard. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:52:38 GMT, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: "U-CDK_CHARLES\Charles" "Charles wrote in message .. . Cooking show (Good Eats -- Recommended) host Alton Brown puts it this way: "The only single tasker I permit in my kitchen is the fire extinguisher." Instead of a garlic press, he uses a marble scrap he got for free from a tile guy. Oh bull! Everyone knows a fire extinguisher is not a single task device. Hell - it can be used as an excellent rolling pin, and all of us know that it can also be called upon to act as a hammer in a pinch, when you simply must drive that 16D through the cutting board to hold it in place, but can't run out to the garage for the claw hammer. Curious fire extinguisher incident. Back in about 1978-79 my father was working at a shipyard scrapping out old Liberty ships. The crane operator tried too heavy a lift and started to tip, so he tripped the load. The crane (large crawler) whipped back and forth a few times then hopped off the 12x12 wood (OWWR) tracks it sat on and dropped to the concrete pier. The fire extinguisher (metal cased dry chemical type) dropped out of the cab as it was swaying and fell just ahead of the crane, which then landed on top of the fire extinguisher. He later showed me where the fire extinguisher was driven into the concrete of the pier *without bursting* by the weight of the crane. Impressed the heck out of me both the weight of the crane and how much pressure the extinguisher took. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
In article . net,
Mike Marlow wrote: ...previous quote snipped... Oh bull! Everyone knows a fire extinguisher is not a single task device. Hell - it can be used as an excellent rolling pin, and all of us know that it can also be called upon to act as a hammer in a pinch, when you simply must drive that 16D through the cutting board to hold it in place, but can't run out to the garage for the claw hammer. -- Of couse the classic use for a CO2 extinguisher is as a "thermostat security enclosure override device" -- Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
"Mark Wells" writes:
I'm also wondering about all the "no money, no space" justifications. I have a 9x19 shop with no table saw. The bandsaw is my primary saw. I was considering building a panel saw and mounting it on the wall. It seems me that would be relatively inexpensive and wouldn't take up that much room mounted on the wall. Am I missing something? Well, I don't have any free wall space.... scott |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
"Lawrence Wasserman" wrote in message ... In article . net, Mike Marlow wrote: ...previous quote snipped... Oh bull! Everyone knows a fire extinguisher is not a single task device. Hell - it can be used as an excellent rolling pin, and all of us know that it can also be called upon to act as a hammer in a pinch, when you simply must drive that 16D through the cutting board to hold it in place, but can't run out to the garage for the claw hammer. -- Of couse the classic use for a CO2 extinguisher is as a "thermostat security enclosure override device" I'm really quite surprised, having expanded the topic to common usages of CO2 fire extinguishers, that nobody has picked up on it's most common use. Doesn't everybody use it to chase the wife around the house with short little spurts? It raises foreplay to entire new levels. Note of caution - do not let he point it at you. You think a cold shower has a profound effect... -- -Mike- |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Renata wrote in message . ..
Don't you mean "highly comensated professional..."? And, thanx for reminding me I have a couple avocados waiting to be converted to guacamole. Renata You can use a Kitchen Router for that. It also makes nice flutings for watermelon boats. |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
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Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
Jay Pique wrote in message . ..
Why doesn't everyone just get a panel saw for cutting large sheet goods? Seems like a much better option than even a sliding table saw. JP I made one with sliding door hardware for the rails. Works perfectly, accurate within 1/32". Prefer table saw for everything but cross cutting sheet goods. Takes up very little room, plus I put it on castors to move around the shop. mike |
Panel Saw seen beating crap out of Table Saw
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:20:32 -0400, (J T)
wrote: Fri, Jul 23, 2004, 12:10pm (Jay*Pique) claims: Ostensibly, a cabinetmaker. "Ostensibly" - Interesting word choice. Accurate, though. I'm a paid employee of a cabinetmaker, and I do pretty much everything involved in the construction of cabinetry. Am I a "master"? Not yet. Will I be? That's certainly my goal. Right now I'm just trying to soak up as much as I can from my current employer - a lot of which includes learning what *not* to do, IMO. It's frustrating at times, but I feel like I'm headed in the right direction. Between books and the internet I think I'm learning fairly quickly. I'm also paying my way to the IWF in Atlanta next month, and while there I hope to meet with a number of larger shop owners. Ideally I'd find myself a new job, but I think it will be worthwhile no matter the outcome. I can't wait to check out all of the production shop equipment. My dream is to run an extremely well tooled and efficiently run 2 man shop - just me and an apprentice. To start I'll focus exclusively on built in cabinetry, and take great pains to streamline the process as much as I can. We'll see. JP ******************* Any other wreckers going to ATL? |
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