Hello all,

If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
properties would it have? Just curious, like...

Cheers!

On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:03:29 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
wrote:

Hello all,

If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
properties would it have? Just curious, like...

Ask Lew. He's our goto guy for epoxies.

Me? I think it's like AGWK. The stuff just doesn't exist in reality.

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one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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On Sep 2, 10:49*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:03:29 -0700 (PDT), David Paste

wrote:
Hello all,

If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
properties would it have? Just curious, like...

Ask Lew. He's our goto guy for epoxies.

Me? I think it's like AGWK. The stuff just doesn't exist in reality.

Hello Larry, thanks for the reply.

What's AGWK?

I don't think epoxies are involved, it's just wood.

Lew - whaddya thunk?!

Lew - whaddya thunk?!

It's hokus pokus time.

Lew

On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:35:49 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
wrote:

On Sep 2, 10:49*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:03:29 -0700 (PDT), David Paste

wrote:
Hello all,

If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
properties would it have? Just curious, like...

Ask Lew. He's our goto guy for epoxies.

Me? I think it's like AGWK. The stuff just doesn't exist in reality.

Hello Larry, thanks for the reply.

What's AGWK?

The other guys forgot the "Kumbaya", which must be stated after they
say "Anthropomorph^H^H^H^H^Hgenic Global Warming" to be aligned with
the True Believers' concept.


I don't think epoxies are involved, it's just wood.

Most of the wood hardeners are just thin epoxy.
Bogosity factor = High, although they will do some surface hardening.
NOTHING turns softwood into hardwood.
Wood Viagra does not exist. snicker

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one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

David Paste wrote:
On Sep 2, 10:49 pm, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:03:29 -0700 (PDT), David Paste

wrote:
Hello all,

If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
properties would it have? Just curious, like...

Ask Lew. He's our goto guy for epoxies.

Me? I think it's like AGWK. The stuff just doesn't exist in reality.

Hello Larry, thanks for the reply.

What's AGWK?

I don't think epoxies are involved, it's just wood.

Wood + resin, not epoxy, acetal I think.



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On Sep 3, 7:37*am, "dadiOH" wrote:
David Paste wrote:
On Sep 2, 10:49 pm, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:03:29 -0700 (PDT), David Paste

wrote:
Hello all,

If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
properties would it have? Just curious, like...

Ask Lew. He's our goto guy for epoxies.

Me? I think it's like AGWK. The stuff just doesn't exist in reality.

Hello Larry, thanks for the reply.

What's AGWK?

I don't think epoxies are involved, it's just wood.

Wood + resin, not epoxy, acetal I think.

Which would be Delrin, which would be good luck
gluing it.

On Sep 2, 1:03*pm, David Paste wrote:
Hello all,

If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
properties would it have? Just curious, like...

Cheers!

Acetylation with acetic anhydride stabilizes the wood.
Same acetic anhydride used to convert wood cellulose
into celluloid plastic, willow bark into aspirin, and
morphine into heroin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetic_anhydride

On Sep 4, 5:18*am, Father Haskell wrote:

Acetylation with acetic anhydride stabilizes the wood.
Same acetic anhydride used to convert wood cellulose
into celluloid plastic, willow bark into aspirin, and
morphine into heroin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetic_anhydride

Thanks for that. So if it was used on hardwood rather than softwood,
would it become some-sort of superwood?!

That sure sounds like treated wood,aka: PT Pine

http://www.accoya.com/about-accoya/

This looks like a fancy LDL:

http://www.accoya.com/faqs/#1

and of course, the $$$$$ might be a show stopper.



On 9/2/2011 1:03 PM, David Paste wrote:
Hello all,

If the process used to make this fancy Accoya wood (basically, as I
understand it, it pickles softwood to produce a hardwood-like wood
which is claimed to be more durable than teak - or so says the
promotional bumf) was applied to a hardwood, what sort of material
properties would it have? Just curious, like...

Cheers!

On Sep 8, 7:14*pm, Pat Barber wrote:
That sure sounds like treated wood,aka: PT Pine

http://www.accoya.com/about-accoya/

This looks like a fancy LDL:

Excuse my ignorance, but what is LDL?

On 9/8/2011 1:38 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Sep 8, 7:14 pm, Pat wrote:
That sure sounds like treated wood,aka: PT Pine

http://www.accoya.com/about-accoya/

This looks like a fancy LDL:

Excuse my ignorance, but what is LDL?

I believe he meant "LVL" ... laminated veneer lumber.

We use beams made of this material because they can be made up onsite to
make a continuous/long beam:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...08243 7505858

You can see the components parts in the left foreground.

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On Sep 9, 3:29*am, Swingman wrote:

I believe he meant "LVL" ... laminated veneer lumber.

Ah ha! OK, cheers, that would make sense - the link provided was to a
vehicle bridge made out of the stuff, hence the LVL.

We use beams made of this material because they can be made up onsite to
make a continuous/long beam:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...ing?authkey=Gv....

You can see the components parts in the left foreground.

Thanks - interesting stuff!

On 9/8/2011 10:29 PM, Swingman wrote:

We use beams made of this material because they can be made up onsite to
make a continuous/long beam:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...08243 7505858

You can see the components parts in the left foreground.

Very interesting build there. A ton of great pictures, until the end.
I wanted to see more of finishing the walls, and the finished product.
All the way through I was anticipating seeing what they did with the
walls... nope.

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