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Hard paint recommendation
I'm looking for recommendations for a paint that will cure harder than
the standard variety acrylic latex or alkyd enamel available in hardware stores. Use to be indoors without any particular concerns for water or chemical resistance. My past experience with the above paints has resulted in premature wear on items subject to some hard use. My requirements are that it be suitable for rolling/brushing or available in a spray can since I don't have an appropriate spray rig. I also want a one-part formulation, preferably available in sizes smaller than 1 gallons. My initial research points to urethane-modified alkyds such as Interlux Brightside, Pettit Easypoxy, Epifanes monourethane, etc. used for boat painting. I've found that the standard test for paint hardness is the pencil hardness test. However, the specs for this value are often only available for the paints for the industrial market, and I'm not sure how well the values compare across suppliers due to variability in the test as acknowdedged in the ASTM method. Any recommendations? Thanks, John Suffolk, VA remove knowspaam for email |
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"John Mitchell" wrote in message ... I'm looking for recommendations for a paint that will cure harder than the standard variety acrylic latex or alkyd enamel available in hardware stores. Use to be indoors without any particular concerns for water or chemical resistance. My past experience with the above paints has resulted in premature wear on items subject to some hard use. My requirements are that it be suitable for rolling/brushing or available in a spray can since I don't have an appropriate spray rig. I also want a one-part formulation, preferably available in sizes smaller than 1 gallons. My initial research points to urethane-modified alkyds such as Interlux Brightside, Pettit Easypoxy, Epifanes monourethane, etc. used for boat painting. I've found that the standard test for paint hardness is the pencil hardness test. However, the specs for this value are often only available for the paints for the industrial market, and I'm not sure how well the values compare across suppliers due to variability in the test as acknowdedged in the ASTM method. Any recommendations? Thanks, John Suffolk, VA remove knowspaam for email Have you considered paint intended for floors? Art |
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John Mitchell wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for a paint that will cure harder than the standard variety acrylic latex or alkyd enamel available in hardware stores. Use to be indoors without any particular concerns for water or chemical resistance. Alright - indoors... for what? Floor? Walls? Ceiling? Doors? My past experience with the above paints has resulted in premature wear on items subject to some hard use. Like explanation would be helpful. You really don't think your requirements are sufficient for any reasonable response, do you? "I want a hard paint, and I've found other paints not to be hard enough..." I've found that the standard test for paint hardness is the pencil hardness test. However, the specs for this value are often only available for the paints for the industrial market, and I'm not sure how well the values compare across suppliers due to variability in the test as acknowdedged in the ASTM method. Any recommendations? Not really - don't know what it is that you want. For a starting point at least, what is the application, what pencil test hardness do you think you want and why do you think that?s |
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John Mitchell wrote:
I'm looking for recommendations for a paint that will cure harder than the standard variety acrylic latex or alkyd enamel available in hardware stores. Use to be indoors without any particular concerns for water or chemical resistance. My past experience with the above paints has resulted in premature wear on items subject to some hard use. My requirements are that it be suitable for rolling/brushing or available in a spray can since I don't have an appropriate spray rig. I also want a one-part formulation, preferably available in sizes smaller than 1 gallons. My initial research points to urethane-modified alkyds such as Interlux Brightside, Pettit Easypoxy, Epifanes monourethane, etc. used for boat painting. I've found that the standard test for paint hardness is the pencil hardness test. However, the specs for this value are often only available for the paints for the industrial market, and I'm not sure how well the values compare across suppliers due to variability in the test as acknowdedged in the ASTM method. Any recommendations? appliance epoxy paint. the paint on all my kitchen door pulls was chipping off after about 9 years of not very heavy use. it wasn't well bonded to the underlying metal. i sandblasted all the pulls down to bare metal, which left a pretty matte surface. i then followed up with 2 coats of appliance epoxy paint (rustoleum rattle cans from HD). it was pretty soft even after being left in the sun for a few days. i fired them in my kiln at 350F for 4 hours. now, it's extremely hard paint and hasn't shown any markings or chips in a couple of years. |
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chaniarts wrote:
appliance epoxy paint. the paint on all my kitchen door pulls was chipping off after about 9 years of not very heavy use. it wasn't well bonded to the underlying metal. i sandblasted all the pulls down to bare metal, which left a pretty matte surface. i then followed up with 2 coats of appliance epoxy paint (rustoleum rattle cans from HD). it was pretty soft even after being left in the sun for a few days. i fired them in my kiln at 350F for 4 hours. now, it's extremely hard paint and hasn't shown any markings or chips in a couple of years. Cause and effect. It's not that the epoxy is better in your application, it's more that the prep was not done right. Any paint should hold up for that application, if the prep is proper. -- -Mike- |
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Thanks, John Suffolk, VA remove * knowspaam for email Hammerite in a spray can, or you can get quarts as well. I have a steel pipe mailbox that I painted in 1996 and it is `just now` looking like it could use a touch up. It is full of xylene and porcelain chips in suspension... and cures hard as a rock. Comes in lots of colors too. wouldn't recommend it for wooden surfaces unless you are sure the wood won't move (i.e. seal all sides) much. |
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On Jun 22, 9:04*pm, John Mitchell
wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a paint that will cure harder than the standard variety acrylic latex or alkyd enamel available in hardware stores. *Use to be indoors without any particular concerns for water or chemical resistance. *My past experience with the above paints has resulted in premature wear on items subject to some hard use. *My requirements are that it be suitable for rolling/brushing or available in a spray can since I don't have an appropriate spray rig. I also want a one-part formulation, preferably available in sizes smaller than 1 gallons. *My initial research points to urethane-modified alkyds such as Interlux Brightside, Pettit Easypoxy, Epifanes monourethane, etc. used for boat painting. * I've found that the standard test for paint hardness is the pencil hardness test. *However, the specs for this value are often only available for the paints for the industrial market, and I'm not sure how well the values compare across suppliers due to variability in the test as acknowdedged in the ASTM method. Any recommendations? Thanks, John Suffolk, VA remove * knowspaam for email Tinted nitro lacquer, or nitro over a colored base coat. |
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