On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:08:16 GMT, (JJ) wrote:

For 8ft long lumber, how many supports should one use when air drying?

I bought a dozen 2x12 x 8ft boards at the local big box store.
Geez talk about mediocre wood. Most were pretty damp and I am hoping
it was because they got rained on.

I "borrowed" the lath strips that got exposed as I picked through the
pile. I have eight strips that run almost the full width and laid
those down on the garage floor - a bit over a foot apart.

I'm thinking I will sacrifice some free yard sticks and add those to
the pile.

I wouldn't sticker dimensional softwood. I recommend installing it
before it can dry and warp. Keep it wet until then. If it were
properly kiln dried, the moisture won't hurt it, but not much lumber
today is properly kiln dried.

It's even more critical with pressure treated wood. I lost many a 4x4
before learning that, and one of the uprights on my carport has a 1"
twist in it.

--
Make up your mind to act decidedly and take the consequences.
No good is ever done in this world by hesitation.
-- Thomas H. Huxley

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:08:16 GMT, (JJ) wrote:

For 8ft long lumber, how many supports should one use when air
drying?

I bought a dozen 2x12 x 8ft boards at the local big box store.
Geez talk about mediocre wood. Most were pretty damp and I am
hoping it was because they got rained on.

I "borrowed" the lath strips that got exposed as I picked through
the pile. I have eight strips that run almost the full width and
laid those down on the garage floor - a bit over a foot apart.

I'm thinking I will sacrifice some free yard sticks and add those
to the pile.

I wouldn't sticker dimensional softwood. I recommend installing it
before it can dry and warp. Keep it wet until then. If it were
properly kiln dried, the moisture won't hurt it, but not much lumber
today is properly kiln dried.

It's even more critical with pressure treated wood. I lost many a
4x4 before learning that, and one of the uprights on my carport has
a 1" twist in it.

Kiln dryings not the problem , if your lumber yards are like many in
the uk , kiln dried / air dried lumber turns up , unloaded and left
outside without any form of protection from the weather so it gets
soaking wet when it rains , baked when the suns out and generally
thrown around by half wit yard staff and customers

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:10:54 +0000 (UTC), "steve robinson"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:08:16 GMT, (JJ) wrote:

For 8ft long lumber, how many supports should one use when air
drying?

I bought a dozen 2x12 x 8ft boards at the local big box store.
Geez talk about mediocre wood. Most were pretty damp and I am
hoping it was because they got rained on.

I "borrowed" the lath strips that got exposed as I picked through
the pile. I have eight strips that run almost the full width and
laid those down on the garage floor - a bit over a foot apart.

I'm thinking I will sacrifice some free yard sticks and add those
to the pile.

I wouldn't sticker dimensional softwood. I recommend installing it
before it can dry and warp. Keep it wet until then. If it were
properly kiln dried, the moisture won't hurt it, but not much lumber
today is properly kiln dried.

It's even more critical with pressure treated wood. I lost many a
4x4 before learning that, and one of the uprights on my carport has
a 1" twist in it.

Kiln dryings not the problem , if your lumber yards are like many in
the uk , kiln dried / air dried lumber turns up , unloaded and left
outside without any form of protection from the weather so it gets
soaking wet when it rains , baked when the suns out and generally
thrown around by half wit yard staff and customers

The Borg and Lowes (there aren't any others worth mentioning), here, keep all
the dimensional lumber inside. I haven't seen anything there that wasn't KD.

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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:10:54 +0000 (UTC), "steve robinson"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:08:16 GMT, (JJ) wrote:

For 8ft long lumber, how many supports should one use when air
drying?

I bought a dozen 2x12 x 8ft boards at the local big box store.
Geez talk about mediocre wood. Most were pretty damp and I am
hoping it was because they got rained on.

I "borrowed" the lath strips that got exposed as I picked through
the pile. I have eight strips that run almost the full width and
laid those down on the garage floor - a bit over a foot apart.

I'm thinking I will sacrifice some free yard sticks and add those
to the pile.

I wouldn't sticker dimensional softwood. I recommend installing it
before it can dry and warp. Keep it wet until then. If it were
properly kiln dried, the moisture won't hurt it, but not much lumber
today is properly kiln dried.

It's even more critical with pressure treated wood. I lost many a
4x4 before learning that, and one of the uprights on my carport has
a 1" twist in it.

Kiln dryings not the problem , if your lumber yards are like many in
the uk , kiln dried / air dried lumber turns up , unloaded and left
outside without any form of protection from the weather so it gets
soaking wet when it rains , baked when the suns out and generally
thrown around by half wit yard staff and customers

The Borg and Lowes (there aren't any others worth mentioning), here, keep
all
the dimensional lumber inside. I haven't seen anything there that wasn't
KD.


Now that is a shocker, I have never seen any thing in the Borgs that was
kiln dried except for the hard woods and or non PT. I have to go an actual
lumber yard to get kiln dried PT.

The Borg and Lowes (there aren't any others worth mentioning), here,
keep all the dimensional lumber inside. I haven't seen anything there
that wasn't KD.

Here in Washington state, the only kiln dried "framing" lumber are 8' and
"precut stud" lengths of 2x4's and 2x6's. Anything longer (10 ft, 12 ft,
etc.) or larger (2x8, 2x10, 2x12) are sold green.

ALL pressure treated lumber is sold green, regardless of size or length. A
wet PT 2x12x12' can be REALLY heavy!

However, all 1x "woodworking" boards are sold kiln dried (Pine, Hemlock,
Poplar, Oak, etc.).

Anthony Watson
Mountain Software
www.mountain-software.com

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:54:14 +0000 (UTC), HerHusband
wrote:

The Borg and Lowes (there aren't any others worth mentioning), here,
keep all the dimensional lumber inside. I haven't seen anything there
that wasn't KD.

Here in Washington state, the only kiln dried "framing" lumber are 8' and
"precut stud" lengths of 2x4's and 2x6's. Anything longer (10 ft, 12 ft,
etc.) or larger (2x8, 2x10, 2x12) are sold green.

Certainly not here. The longer stuff is generally even better looking than
the 8' lengths, and all KD. I'd have to look at PT again, but I remember
seeing the KD mark.

ALL pressure treated lumber is sold green, regardless of size or length. A
wet PT 2x12x12' can be REALLY heavy!

If it's wet. I've had some pretty dry stuff from the BORGs here. When I
lived in VT the yards there kept the stuff in mud puddles. I'll look again
next time I'm at Lowes.

However, all 1x "woodworking" boards are sold kiln dried (Pine, Hemlock,
Poplar, Oak, etc.).