On Jan 3, 12:22*pm, WayneJ wrote:
Hi all,

I need to buy a new sander, primarily for finishing. I was set to go get a *
palm sander, but a couple of friends are telling me I should get a random *
orbital instead. They claim that they can be just as good for finish work *
and better for coarser things. I question whether they are really as good *
for finish sanding, and I already have a straight disk sander for rough *
work.

I need to keep the cost reasonable, but I don't want to buy junk either. *
I'm looking at brands like Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, etc. the money for *
brands like Festool isn't there. I think a 1/4 sheet palm sander or 5 inch *
random orbital sander, is what I'm looking at.

Does anybody have thoughts on this, and any recommendations in the price *
range I'm limited to?

Thanks,
WayneJ

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Palm sanders aren't limited to the few grits available in
hook and loop discs. Anything is available for quarter
sheet sanders, up to and beyond 2000 grit. 320 is the
finest I've seen for ROS.

Fast way to a flawless, ready to finish surface with a palm
sander is to go up to 320, then finish by hand, straight strokes,
with 220 to remove the swirl marks.

On 1/7/11 11:17 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
Palm sanders aren't limited to the few grits available in
hook and loop discs. Anything is available for quarter
sheet sanders, up to and beyond 2000 grit. 320 is the
finest I've seen for ROS.


Which brings up the question... why don't they have a Velcro version or
attachment for ROS? I looked at Lowes and HD yesterday and every palm
sander still has that horrible metal wire spring/clip system to attach
the paper. The same mechanism that my 20 year old Skil has.

Are you kidding me? This is the best they can come up with. It is THE
MOST horribly awkward and inconvenient way to attach and remove sandpaper.

I'd rather find an internet source for Velcro disks than deal with that
horrible mechanism.


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On 1/8/2011 12:14 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 1/7/11 11:17 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
Palm sanders aren't limited to the few grits available in
hook and loop discs. Anything is available for quarter
sheet sanders, up to and beyond 2000 grit. 320 is the
finest I've seen for ROS.


Which brings up the question... why don't they have a Velcro version or
attachment for ROS? I looked at Lowes and HD yesterday and every palm
sander still has that horrible metal wire spring/clip system to attach
the paper. The same mechanism that my 20 year old Skil has.

Are you kidding me? This is the best they can come up with. It is THE
MOST horribly awkward and inconvenient way to attach and remove sandpaper.

I'd rather find an internet source for Velcro disks than deal with that
horrible mechanism.

Yeah, I had an old Makita like that. Sold it on eBay and was glad to see it
go. I'd never buy another of that same style.

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On 1/7/11 11:17 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
Palm sanders aren't limited to the few grits available in
hook and loop discs. Anything is available for quarter
sheet sanders, up to and beyond 2000 grit. 320 is the
finest I've seen for ROS.


Which brings up the question... why don't they have a Velcro version or
attachment for ROS? I looked at Lowes and HD yesterday and every palm
sander still has that horrible metal wire spring/clip system to attach
the paper. The same mechanism that my 20 year old Skil has.

Are you kidding me? This is the best they can come up with. It is THE
MOST horribly awkward and inconvenient way to attach and remove sandpaper.

I'd rather find an internet source for Velcro disks than deal with that
horrible mechanism.

Don't you mean for a palm sander? Every ROS I have seen in the past 10
years or so has a velcro base.

On 1/8/11 5:18 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
In ,
says...

On 1/7/11 11:17 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
Palm sanders aren't limited to the few grits available in
hook and loop discs. Anything is available for quarter
sheet sanders, up to and beyond 2000 grit. 320 is the
finest I've seen for ROS.


Which brings up the question... why don't they have a Velcro version or
attachment for ROS? I looked at Lowes and HD yesterday and every palm
sander still has that horrible metal wire spring/clip system to attach
the paper. The same mechanism that my 20 year old Skil has.

Are you kidding me? This is the best they can come up with. It is THE
MOST horribly awkward and inconvenient way to attach and remove sandpaper.

I'd rather find an internet source for Velcro disks than deal with that
horrible mechanism.

Don't you mean for a palm sander? Every ROS I have seen in the past 10
years or so has a velcro base.


Yes. They need to develop a Velcro attaching system for palm sanders.

Thank you for following along. :-)


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On 1/8/11 5:18 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
In ,
says...

On 1/7/11 11:17 PM, Father Haskell wrote:
Palm sanders aren't limited to the few grits available in
hook and loop discs. Anything is available for quarter
sheet sanders, up to and beyond 2000 grit. 320 is the
finest I've seen for ROS.


Which brings up the question... why don't they have a Velcro version or
attachment for ROS? I looked at Lowes and HD yesterday and every palm
sander still has that horrible metal wire spring/clip system to attach
the paper. The same mechanism that my 20 year old Skil has.

Are you kidding me? This is the best they can come up with. It is THE
MOST horribly awkward and inconvenient way to attach and remove
sandpaper.

I'd rather find an internet source for Velcro disks than deal with that
horrible mechanism.

Don't you mean for a palm sander? Every ROS I have seen in the past 10
years or so has a velcro base.


Yes. They need to develop a Velcro attaching system for palm sanders.

Thank you for following along. :-)


I wouldn't buy it. My palm sander has the wire paper retainers and it takes
me less than 30 seconds to change paper. The advantages are that paper is
cheaper, reduced paper inventory as the sheets can be used for multiple
things and better variety of available paper.

On 1/8/11 6:57 PM, CW wrote:
Yes. They need to develop a Velcro attaching system for palm sanders.

Thank you for following along. :-)


I wouldn't buy it. My palm sander has the wire paper retainers and it takes
me less than 30 seconds to change paper. The advantages are that paper is
cheaper, reduced paper inventory as the sheets can be used for multiple
things and better variety of available paper.


Takes me less than two to change the velcro sheets.
When I'm in that zone, like a machine, it's frustrating to have to take
even 30 seconds to change one out. I'm impressed that you can cut those
sheets and punch out the dust port holes in that time, too. :-)

The better variety argument doesn't stand as you can find those disks on
the internet at any grit you'd need. And I'm not concerned with reduced
inventory nor price. Even expensive sandpaper isn't, in the big picture.
But that's not and issue given said websites.

The more I do this, the more I find I prefer things that help me do more
work more efficiently, once I am working. To each his own.


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On Jan 3, 12:22*pm, WayneJ wrote:
Hi all,

I need to buy a new sander, primarily for finishing. I was set to go get a *
palm sander, but a couple of friends are telling me I should get a random *
orbital instead. They claim that they can be just as good for finish work *
and better for coarser things. I question whether they are really as good *
for finish sanding, and I already have a straight disk sander for rough *
work.

I need to keep the cost reasonable, but I don't want to buy junk either. *
I'm looking at brands like Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, etc. the money for *
brands like Festool isn't there. I think a 1/4 sheet palm sander or 5 inch *
random orbital sander, is what I'm looking at.

Does anybody have thoughts on this, and any recommendations in the price *
range I'm limited to?

Thanks,
WayneJ

--

Palm sanders aren't limited to the few grits available in
hook and loop discs. Anything is available for quarter
sheet sanders, up to and beyond 2000 grit. 320 is the
finest I've seen for ROS.

Klingspor has 'em up to 1500, Mirka to 4000, Micro-Mesh to 12,000. If
you need more than 12,000 then it's time to slap on a foam pad and break
out the polishing compound.


Fast way to a flawless, ready to finish surface with a palm
sander is to go up to 320, then finish by hand, straight strokes,
with 220 to remove the swirl marks.

On 1/8/11 5:14 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
Klingspor has 'em up to 1500, Mirka to 4000, Micro-Mesh to 12,000.
If you need more than 12,000 then it's time to slap on a foam pad and
break out the polishing compound.


Thank you.
I was hoping whoever brought up that website, before, talking about
the cheap, bulk sandpaper discs would bring it up again in this thread.
:-)


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