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Brad point drill bits
Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this
Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill |
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In article , Bill wrote:
Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill http://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece...-set-1637.html or http://www.harborfreight.com/29-piec...set-35837.html Really, try them out. What do you have to lose? -- Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler. (Albert Einstein) Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org |
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Larry W wrote:
In , wrote: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill http://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece...-set-1637.html Really, try them out. What do you have to lose? Compare the pictures near the drill tips. |
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"Bill" wrote in message ... Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill Bill, Give Lee Valley a look: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...40,45534,42240 The also have some info about brad point bits. Bob S. |
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On 12/2/2010 7:10 PM, BobS wrote:
wrote in message ... Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill Bill, Give Lee Valley a look: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...40,45534,42240 The also have some info about brad point bits. I have the Lee Valley brad point bits. I really like them. They are sharp enough that they are a little scary to use. I received a top rating in one of the woodworking magazine tests a couple of years ago. Dan |
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On Dec 2, 9:20*pm, Bill wrote:
Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. *I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...rdNo=2&blockNo.... I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. * I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill Stubby bits whip less, would be preferred for dowel joints. No experience with this make, just an example: http://tinyurl.com/2da37jt |
Brad point drill bits
"Bill" wrote in message ... Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill Don't know if they are good or not as I've never tried them . Lee Valley has some very good ones (made in USA last I looked) that were highly rated in Fine Woodworking a few years back. I've been using them quite a while and like them a lot. |
Brad point drill bits
In article , says...
Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Lee Valley has a set of 7 from 1/8 to 1/2 for 54--those are IIRC the top rated bit in Fine Woodworking's shootout. |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 02:32:40 +0000 (UTC), (Larry W) wrote: In , wrote: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... (You owe me a monitor and keyboard, Bill.) I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I"d almost bet they were made in China, just like the $1 bits. I thought so too. But I took another look at the picture of the item. Near the top of each bit it say "Germany". A family member wanted to buy me something for Christmas, but I can't send them to Lee Valley. Bill |
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On 2010-12-02 21:20:28 -0500, Bill said:
Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/208...Bit-Gauge.aspx And if that's too many... |
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"Bill" wrote:
Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: ----------------------- Mutually exclusive terms. When you going to get out of the cheap seats. You want brad point drills, try McFeelys, WW Grainger (Same company these days), McMaster-Carr, Rockler, Lee Valley, etc. Notice Home Depot & Lowes didn't make the list. Lew |
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On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:29:21 -0500, Bill wrote:
A family member wanted to buy me something for Christmas, but I can't send them to Lee Valley. Bill Why not. If you buy junk you'll just throw them away and spend even more money replacing them. Does that make sense? |
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 20:36:06 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote: "Bill" wrote: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: ----------------------- Mutually exclusive terms. When you going to get out of the cheap seats. You want brad point drills, try McFeelys, WW Grainger (Same company these days), McMaster-Carr, Rockler, Lee Valley, etc. Notice Home Depot & Lowes didn't make the list. Lew You guys gotta remember, Craftsman doesn't MAKE the stuff, nor does Granger, McMaster-Carr, Lee Valley, They all either have them made to their spec or rebrand/package product from other manufacturers. The fact they are German and not Chinese means there is a high likelihood they are reasonable quality - and quite possibly either identical to, are at least equal to, the product you would buy from one or more of the referenced suppliers. Most likely either Miebach, Colt, Famag, or Diemar. They don't come much better than either of those. |
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Bill wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 02:32:40 +0000 (UTC), (Larry W) wrote: In , wrote: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... (You owe me a monitor and keyboard, Bill.) I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I"d almost bet they were made in China, just like the $1 bits. I thought so too. But I took another look at the picture of the item. Near the top of each bit it say "Germany". A family member wanted to buy me something for Christmas, but I can't send them to Lee Valley. Bill Actually, after reading J. Clarke's post, maybe I can work something out (7 pc set for $54). Maybe I just need a gift card from Lee Valley to help! :) Bill |
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 23:33:03 -0500, Steve
wrote: On 2010-12-02 21:20:28 -0500, Bill said: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/208...Bit-Gauge.aspx And if that's too many... At less than a quater each, average, they are likely high quality Chinese bits. The TiN coating just makes them LOOK expensive and/or good. |
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Steve wrote:
On 2010-12-02 21:20:28 -0500, Bill said: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/208...Bit-Gauge.aspx And if that's too many... Yeah Steve, less than a quarter a piece--probably really sharp! :) Bill |
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Bill" wrote: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: ----------------------- Mutually exclusive terms. When you going to get out of the cheap seats. You want brad point drills, try McFeelys, WW Grainger (Same company these days), McMaster-Carr, Rockler, Lee Valley, etc. Notice Home Depot& Lowes didn't make the list. Lew Thank you. I copied the list. There are a couple there with which I'm not acquainted. BTW, I noticed tonight that Home Depot had a 6 piece Brad point drill set for 14.99. I didn't bite. Bill |
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wrote. Lew You guys gotta remember, Craftsman doesn't MAKE the stuff, nor does Granger, McMaster-Carr, Lee Valley, They all either have them made to their spec or rebrand/package product from other manufacturers. .. Lee Valley is a partial exception to that. At least some of the Vertitas stuff is made in house. As for the brad boints, they state: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...at=1,180,42240 Starting with a top-of-the-line American-made twist drill, we reshape and sharpen the tips on a state-of-the-art Swiss CNC grinder. Made from high-speed steel, the bits are not subject to burning, and stay sharp about 10 times as long as carbon steel bits. |
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On 12/2/2010 9:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? I have a ton of twist drills ranging from super high quality to junk. The difference is awe inspiring. I have one set of brad point bits that I bought for those times when I wanted super clean holes with pin point accuracy. I bought a set and rarely use them because I don't need them most of the time and I bought a cheap set of Sears, that look just like the one you list up there, but I'm certain I didn't pay $40 for them. (it was a while ago) Whats wrong with them is 50% of the reason I bought them was super clean holes... not so much. I recommend you get the Lee Valley bits for just $3 more. I don't own them, but they advertise they are sharp, (they resharpen them themselves) and stay sharp, and people that own them have said they like them. I own the Sears, and would recommend Lee Valley. I sharpen my own twist drills, not a clue how to sharpen brad points, so get ones that are sharp and stay sharp, and only use them when needed. -- Jack You Can't Fix Stupid, but You Can Vote it Out! http://jbstein.com |
Brad point drill bits
"Bill" wrote in message ... Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill If you are serious about a good set of brad poing pits, "Colt" Twinland "5 STAR" brad point bits. The larger sizes used in a DP do not need a backer board to prevent tear out on the back side. Pricey but these actually come sharp to start with and are made of HSS. Colt makes a less expensive bit but the "5 Star" bits are the best. I have several and love them! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPGG9wCMLoc |
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In article ,
says... On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 23:33:03 -0500, Steve wrote: On 2010-12-02 21:20:28 -0500, Bill said: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/208...Bit-Gauge.aspx And if that's too many... At less than a quater each, average, they are likely high quality Chinese bits. The TiN coating just makes them LOOK expensive and/or good. The actually work fine, the ones that aren't bent. At that price you can afford to throw a few away. |
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On 12/3/2010 8:21 AM, Jack Stein wrote:
I have a ton of twist drills ranging from super high quality to junk. The difference is awe inspiring. I have one set of brad point bits that I bought for those times when I wanted super clean holes with pin point accuracy. I bought a set and rarely use them because I don't need them most of the time and I bought a cheap set of Sears, that look just like the one you list up there, but I'm certain I didn't pay $40 for them. (it was a while ago) Whats wrong with them is 50% of the reason I bought them was super clean holes... not so much. I recommend you get the Lee Valley bits for just $3 more. I don't own them, but they advertise they are sharp, (they resharpen them themselves) and stay sharp, and people that own them have said they like them. I own the Sears, and would recommend Lee Valley. I find your experience compelling! Thank you for sharing it! It appears I should probably have two sets, one for hogging-out waste and one "good" set. Bill |
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On 12/3/2010 9:19 AM, Leon wrote:
If you are serious about a good set of brad poing pits, "Colt" Twinland "5 STAR" brad point bits. The larger sizes used in a DP do not need a backer board to prevent tear out on the back side. Pricey but these actually come sharp to start with and are made of HSS. Colt makes a less expensive bit but the "5 Star" bits are the best. I have several and love them! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPGG9wCMLoc That was quite informative about the topic. Thank you for posting. Bill |
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On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:29:21 -0500, Bill wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 02:32:40 +0000 (UTC), (Larry W) wrote: In , wrote: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... (You owe me a monitor and keyboard, Bill.) I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I"d almost bet they were made in China, just like the $1 bits. I thought so too. But I took another look at the picture of the item. Near the top of each bit it say "Germany". A family member wanted to buy me something for Christmas, but I can't send them to Lee Valley. You CERTAINLY don't want to send them to Searz. Ye Gods, man, have a heart. Sure it wasn't "Made for Germany in China"? -- "Human nature itself is evermore an advocate for liberty. There is also in human nature a resentment of injury, and indignation against wrong. A love of truth and a veneration of virtue. These amiable passions, are the latent spark. If the people are capable of understanding, seeing and feeling the differences between true and false, right and wrong, virtue and vice, to what better principle can the friends of mankind apply than to the sense of this difference?" --John Adams |
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On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 08:19:34 -0600, "Leon"
wrote: If you are serious about a good set of brad poing pits, "Colt" Twinland "5 STAR" brad point bits. The larger sizes used in a DP do not need a backer board to prevent tear out on the back side. Pricey but these actually come sharp to start with and are made of HSS. Colt makes a less expensive bit but the "5 Star" bits are the best. I have several and love them! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPGG9wCMLoc Those look superb! Price isn't bad, either. http://fwd4.me/r9g http://fwd4.me/r9h although some places are gouging $70 for 'em. -- "Human nature itself is evermore an advocate for liberty. There is also in human nature a resentment of injury, and indignation against wrong. A love of truth and a veneration of virtue. These amiable passions, are the latent spark. If the people are capable of understanding, seeing and feeling the differences between true and false, right and wrong, virtue and vice, to what better principle can the friends of mankind apply than to the sense of this difference?" --John Adams |
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On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:20:28 -0500, Bill wrote:
Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Don't know if there's a Woodcraft near you but they usually have bits in various quality ranges. I have a set of very good HSS bits that I use for critical stuff. For run of the mill drilling I use cheap bits and toss them when they get dull. Woodcraft has some cheap bits in a set. Ten each of the smaller sizes and 5 each of the larger sizes. About 25 cents a bit. They also carry the Colt on the high end of the quality range. Pretty good combination. -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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On 12/3/2010 1:07 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:20:28 -0500, Bill wrote: Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Don't know if there's a Woodcraft near you but they usually have bits in various quality ranges. I have a set of very good HSS bits that I use for critical stuff. For run of the mill drilling I use cheap bits and toss them when they get dull. Woodcraft has some cheap bits in a set. Ten each of the smaller sizes and 5 each of the larger sizes. About 25 cents a bit. They also carry the Colt on the high end of the quality range. Pretty good combination. Yep, I do have Woodcraft (as well as a Rockler) within 35 miles. I'll take a look. One thing I have learned from this thread is the need for 2 sets of drill bits (cheap and good), and maybe even more if you want both long and short shanked ones! I'll let me needs steer my drill bit collection. If you want to talk about collections, I'll have to tell you about my grandfather's nail collection some time. We surmised that he must have bought a new bag of nails, half-full lunch sacks, for almost every task that came up. it was sort of amusing as we'd encounter new stashes.."Hey, you'll never guess what I found!". Bill |
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On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 06:06:10 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote: wrote. Lew You guys gotta remember, Craftsman doesn't MAKE the stuff, nor does Granger, McMaster-Carr, Lee Valley, They all either have them made to their spec or rebrand/package product from other manufacturers. . Lee Valley is a partial exception to that. At least some of the Vertitas stuff is made in house. As for the brad boints, they state: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...at=1,180,42240 Starting with a top-of-the-line American-made twist drill, we reshape and sharpen the tips on a state-of-the-art Swiss CNC grinder. Made from high-speed steel, the bits are not subject to burning, and stay sharp about 10 times as long as carbon steel bits. Lee valley has ALL their stuff made for them, last I heard. They don't have the forges etc required to manufacture the stuff. It will be made for them, to their spec - not relabelled from someone else. |
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This seems like a good place to ask this newbe question:
It you bore a hole with a 7/32" brad point bit, is it reasonable to expect to be able to tap a 1/4" dowel into it? I have to assume this is why they make 7/32". Is the dowel generally chosen to be of soft wood to accommodate this? Bill |
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"Bill" wrote I find your experience compelling! Thank you for sharing it! It appears I should probably have two sets, one for hogging-out waste and one "good" set. Bill No, once you find that the good set hogs out twice as fast, the cheap set will probably never be used. One of the data points in the Fine Woodworking test was how fast it could drill and how fast. Major difference between the cheap and good ones. |
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Take a look at these. I bought them years ago from Woodcraft and they
are excellent. http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...oint-Bits.aspx On 12/2/2010 9:20 PM, Bill wrote: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill |
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Oh and these
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...oint-Bits.aspx are made in Germany too. At $19 and they are really good you can't go wrong. On 12/2/2010 9:20 PM, Bill wrote: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...block Type=G2 I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill |
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J. Clarke wrote:
In , says... This seems like a good place to ask this newbe question: It you bore a hole with a 7/32" brad point bit, is it reasonable to expect to be able to tap a 1/4" dowel into it? I have to assume this is why they make 7/32". Is the dowel generally chosen to be of soft wood to accommodate this? Generally speaking you want to use a 1/4 inch bit for a 1/4 inch dowel unless you are using some kind of proprietary system with special bits and dowels. 7/32 would be the pilot drill for a #18 straight shank wood screw in hardwood or the clearance drill for a McFeelys #12, among other uses. Thanks for the explanation. I know better than to try to put a square block in a round hole, but I was trying make sense of all of the "off size" drill bits I was seeing (like 7/32"). I know they sometimes cut off-size dado's to accommodate plywood that is thinner than it is supposed to be and I thought perhaps the situation was something like that. But your explanation (for screws) makes the most sense. Bill |
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On Dec 3, 12:03*am, wrote:
On Thu, 2 Dec 2010 23:33:03 -0500, Steve wrote: On 2010-12-02 21:20:28 -0500, Bill said: Was looking for a set of decent brad point drill bits. *I found this Craftsman set: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...rdNo=2&blockNo.... I know not everyone speaks highly of Craftsman quality... I'm hoping that since they are 6 for $40, there are quite good (3/8" shanks). I get wary when I see bits for between a quarter and $2 each. * I guess the main issue might be "run out". Where would you be shopping for brad point drill bits (for joinery)? Thanks, Bill http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/208...e-TiN-Coated-B... And if that's too many... *At less than a quater each, average, they are likely high quality Chinese bits. The TiN coating just makes them LOOK expensive *and/or good.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cheap tools are chrome plated for the same reason, to disguise cheap metal and poor finish. |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 08:19:34 -0600, wrote: If you are serious about a good set of brad poing pits, "Colt" Twinland "5 STAR" brad point bits. The larger sizes used in a DP do not need a backer board to prevent tear out on the back side. Pricey but these actually come sharp to start with and are made of HSS. Colt makes a less expensive bit but the "5 Star" bits are the best. I have several and love them! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPGG9wCMLoc Those look superb! Price isn't bad, either. http://fwd4.me/r9g http://fwd4.me/r9h although some places are gouging $70 for 'em. Ahem... You're perfectly aware, I presume, that those are not the Colt Twinland Brad point bits from their "Five Star" collection. This may be akin to comparing wine by Earnest and Julio Gallo with that of Chateau Lafite Rothschild. I think I've seen posts from E and J in this forum! Bill Bill |
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tiredofspam wrote:
Take a look at these. I bought them years ago from Woodcraft and they are excellent. http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...oint-Bits.aspx Looks like a buy for $20 then! Bill |
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:48:01 -0500, Bill wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 08:19:34 -0600, wrote: If you are serious about a good set of brad poing pits, "Colt" Twinland "5 STAR" brad point bits. The larger sizes used in a DP do not need a backer board to prevent tear out on the back side. Pricey but these actually come sharp to start with and are made of HSS. Colt makes a less expensive bit but the "5 Star" bits are the best. I have several and love them! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPGG9wCMLoc Those look superb! Price isn't bad, either. http://fwd4.me/r9g http://fwd4.me/r9h although some places are gouging $70 for 'em. Ahem... You're perfectly aware, I presume, that those are not the Colt Twinland Brad point bits from their "Five Star" collection. This may be akin to comparing wine by Earnest and Julio Gallo with that of Chateau Lafite Rothschild. I think I've seen posts from E and J in this forum! Well, they are Twinland and I could have sworn they were the 5-star, too. I searched for Colt Twinland. Hmm...maybe I didn't search for 5-star. They're the $80 set. My bad. -- "Human nature itself is evermore an advocate for liberty. There is also in human nature a resentment of injury, and indignation against wrong. A love of truth and a veneration of virtue. These amiable passions, are the latent spark. If the people are capable of understanding, seeing and feeling the differences between true and false, right and wrong, virtue and vice, to what better principle can the friends of mankind apply than to the sense of this difference?" --John Adams |
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wrote Lee valley has ALL their stuff made for them, last I heard. They don't have the forges etc required to manufacture the stuff. It will be made for them, to their spec - not relabelled from someone else. Define "made for them". Lee Valley does not manufacture, but they have a division that does. From the Lee Valley web site Veritas® Tools (our research, development and manufacturing division) continues to be one of the most innovative hand-tool design firms in the world, producing unique and high-quality products. Like every manufacturer, some parts are usually made by others. I've never been to their facilities to see what they have and what they buy, but I'd guess a mix. Companies that maker heaters or air conditioners buy motors. GM buys tons of parts, etc. Veritas my be buying forgings. |
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