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From one veteran to all others:
I want to thank you for your service to our country. Hope you're having a great day. -- MJ Army 1966 - 1970 |
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Misplaced apostrophe, should
be Veterans, not Veteran's. But still the sentiment is the same. Thanks. MJ |
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On 11/11/2010 10:58 AM, wrote:
From one veteran to all others: I want to thank you for your service to our country. Hope you're having a great day. Army 1966 - 1970 Backatcha: Army 1968 - 1972 On that same note: http://blog.woodworkingtooltips.com/...-independence/ -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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wrote in message ... From one veteran to all others: I want to thank you for your service to our country. Hope you're having a great day. Isn't this an international group? Tim w |
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... From one veteran to all others: I want to thank you for your service to our country. Hope you're having a great day. -- MJ Army 1966 - 1970 Same to you and all other vets. Max US Army, 1949-1953 1st Cav. Korea, '50 - '51 |
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On 11/11/2010 2:44 PM, Tim W wrote:
wrote in message ... From one veteran to all others: I want to thank you for your service to our country. Hope you're having a great day. Isn't this an international group? What does that have to do with it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... On 11/11/2010 2:44 PM, Tim W wrote: wrote in message ... From one veteran to all others: I want to thank you for your service to our country. Hope you're having a great day. Isn't this an international group? What does that have to do with it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day Leave it to the Brits to screw up Remembrance day. Disarming Remembrance Day November 9, 2010: A hundred teenage members of the British Army Cadet Force in Plymouth have been suddenly told that they would not be able to carry rifles, as they traditionally have, during the annual November 11th Remembrance Day parade. The reason given was that it was inappropriate to have the teenage cadets carrying rifles in public because it glamorizes weapons. The cadets disagreed, but the decision stood. The Army Cadet Force began 160 years ago as an organization for boys who were intent on eventually joining the militia (a local defense tradition dating back over a thousand years). The Cadet Corps quickly became a national organization and was supported by the British Army as a way to introduce teenage boys to the military, and help recruiting. The Army Cadet Force lost its government funding in the 1920s, but continued via donations from individuals and local organizations. The Army Cadet Force was similar to the Boy Scouts (also founded in Britain), but with a more military orientation. This included the local cadets marching in Remembrance Day parades, often with the rifles they had learned to use, and had practiced drilling with. Girls were allowed to join the Army Cadet Force in the 1980s. Currently, there are about 1,700 Army Cadet Force detachments, with 47,000 cadets and 8,500 adult staff and instructors. With the decline in the number of veterans (conscription was abolished in the 1950s and the armed forces has been shrinking ever since), more and more of the adult staff have had no military experience. Thus the emphasis on military matters has declined, and the Army Cadet Force was increasingly described by its leadership as a youth, not military, organization. As a result of this, ten years ago, a new rule was introduced that eliminated cadets carrying rifles during parades. But the rule was not always enforced. This year, in Plymouth, it was. This got some media attention, especially since the cadets had carried their rifles in a parade two months ago. The sudden decision to enforce the "no rifles" rule was attributed to complaints from members of the public. But it's actually been a long term trend. Remembrance Day commemorates the end of World War I, and has come to be an event that honors all war dead. Remembrance Day events are held in Britain, and most Allied countries who participated in World War I. In the U.S., November 11th is called Veterans Day, because Americans commemorate the war dead on Memorial Day in May, an occasion that dates to the 19th century custom of honoring the dead of the American Civil War (1861-5), and later modified to cover the dead from all American wars. Thus the November 11 commemorations in Europe and the British Commonwealth, are a bigger deal than they are in the United States. |
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Han wrote:
" wrote in news:5c65203f-6678- : From one veteran to all others: I want to thank you for your service to our country. Hope you're having a great day. -- MJ Army 1966 - 1970 I'll be eternally thankful to all veterans, especially those who liberated Europe in WWII. My hat off to all veterans! With all due respects to your veterans Han, there were a few other countries who were actually fighting from 1939 to 1945. America entered the war in December 1941 and then *HELPED* to liberate Europe, along with the British, Anzac, Canadian, Indian, Polish, French, Russian and many other armies - as *THEY* helped America to defeat the Japanese. America was also late entering the war to end all wars 1914 - 1918 and only participating from 1917. Please read a true history on those conflicts before you infer that America won anything single handily. Once again, my respects to *ALL* the allies that fought and died in war. |
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Lee Michaels wrote:
"Swingman" wrote in message ... On 11/11/2010 2:44 PM, Tim W wrote: wrote in message ... From one veteran to all others: I want to thank you for your service to our country. Hope you're having a great day. Isn't this an international group? What does that have to do with it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day Leave it to the Brits to screw up Remembrance day. Disarming Remembrance Day November 9, 2010: A hundred teenage members of the British Army Cadet Force in Plymouth have been suddenly told that they would not be able to carry rifles, as they traditionally have, during the annual November 11th Remembrance Day parade. The reason given was that it was inappropriate to have the teenage cadets carrying rifles in public because it glamorizes weapons. The cadets disagreed, but the decision stood. Snipped From a Brit. You really don't need to carry arms to remember those that fell in war, in fact, there were millions in the UK who didn't. This isn't America where carrying arms is almost mandatory and guns are worshipped as gods! Let us do as we wish, as you do in your country - after all, that's what the men who fought these wars died for. |
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"Disbelief" wrote in
: Han wrote: " wrote in news:5c65203f-6678- : From one veteran to all others: I want to thank you for your service to our country. Hope you're having a great day. -- MJ Army 1966 - 1970 I'll be eternally thankful to all veterans, especially those who liberated Europe in WWII. My hat off to all veterans! With all due respects to your veterans Han, there were a few other countries who were actually fighting from 1939 to 1945. America entered the war in December 1941 and then *HELPED* to liberate Europe, along with the British, Anzac, Canadian, Indian, Polish, French, Russian and many other armies - as *THEY* helped America to defeat the Japanese. America was also late entering the war to end all wars 1914 - 1918 and only participating from 1917. Please read a true history on those conflicts before you infer that America won anything single handily. Once again, my respects to *ALL* the allies that fought and died in war. Disbelief, I think you are misinterpreting my words. I said ALL veterans. Most f Holland (where I grew up) was liberated by Brits and Canadiens. My high school was on the General Foulkes Road, the Canadian general who accepted the surrender of the Germans in Holland in the town where I grew up, Wageningen. That is about 8 miles from Arnhem, where many Poles, Brits, Canadians and others died in Operation Market Garden (the movie A Bridge Too Far). I could go on ... -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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"Disbelief" wrote From a Brit. You really don't need to carry arms to remember those that fell in war, in fact, there were millions in the UK who didn't. This isn't America where carrying arms is almost mandatory and guns are worshipped as gods! Let us do as we wish, as you do in your country - after all, that's what the men who fought these wars died for. You Brits have taken weapons phobia to new heights. You have brainwashed chefs proclaiming there is no needs for cooking knives. We get media reports on a semi regular basis that shows one more idiotic example of you you are turning into a siisified nanny state. And there are many folks in the US who are trying to do this here as well. Is that what they fought and died for? To be a bunch of sissies? |
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On Nov 11, 10:29*pm, "Lee Michaels" leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net wrote: You Brits have taken weapons phobia to new heights. No, the government have probably looked at stats and decided that it's cheaper to stop people keeping guns than it is to treat the ensuing wounds, or to widely teach how to use them. Never under-estimate the ability of the UK 'government' to **** things up from the sole point of view of finance. BUT! Judging how many people in the US are killed / injured by firearms each year, and comparing that to other countries, notably Switzerland, it's clear that it is more complex than I am bothered about reading. The long and short of it means that bad guys in the UK will still be able to get hold of guns and use them nefariously, but children and clueless dip****s are MUCH less likely to accidentally shoot their foot off. Gun clubs are still relatively common in the UK, by the way. People who want to shoot safely, can do. You have brainwashed chefs proclaiming there is no needs for cooking knives. Other than the media will give air-time to any old bellend in the public eye who has an opinion, what does that prove? We get media reports on a semi regular basis that shows one more idiotic example of you you are turning into a siisified nanny state. Give an example, please. I would hazard a guess that that in the majority of these 'reports', facts have been eschewed in favour of rabble-rousing rhetoric. And perhaps, alliteration. The US 'news' channels are world-renowned as being nothing more than corporate- funded opinion-mongers, not that the UK have much better, but you should be HUGELY sceptical of anything you see in the US news. And there are many folks in the US who are trying to do this here as well. So do something about it then. Is that what they fought and died for? *To be a bunch of sissies? No, I reckon that they probably fought to defeat fascism. Ignorance is a fascism, too, you know. |
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"Lee Michaels" leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net wrote in message eb.com... [...] Is that what they fought and died for? To be a bunch of sissies? They had a lot of reasons for that. Some because they thought the war would enable people to live in peace, some because they would get shot by their own side if they didn't. I suppose there must have been some that just loved flags and uniforms and guns and violence. Generally in my country the war dead are remembered on this day with grief and sadness as well as pride. It is not ever a celebration of how great our military is. It is about loss and mourning. Tim W |
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On 11/11/2010 4:26 PM, Han wrote:
Disbelief, I think you are misinterpreting my words. I said ALL veterans. Most f Holland (where I grew up) was liberated by Brits and Canadiens. My high school was on the General Foulkes Road, the Canadian general who accepted the surrender of the Germans in Holland in the town where I grew up, Wageningen. That is about 8 miles from Arnhem, where many Poles, Brits, Canadians and others died in Operation Market Garden (the movie A Bridge Too Far). I could go on ... You're wasting your time, Han ... that's not what he's up to. Trolls can try to revise history, but they can't change the facts for the following WW II Allied military dead (estimated, as in all war casualties) who are remembered on this day: British Empire and Commonwealth 452.000 France 250.000 USA 295.000 Soviet Union 13.600.000 Belgium 10.000 Holland 10.000 Norway 10.000 Poland 120.000 Greece 20.000 Yugoslavia 300.000 Checoslovaquia 20.000 China 3.500.000 -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Nov 11, 10:58*pm, Swingman wrote:
British Empire and Commonwealth 452.000 France * * * * * * * * * * * * *250.000 USA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 295.000 Soviet Union * * * * * * * * 13.600.000 Belgium * * * * * * * * * * * * *10.000 Holland * * * * * * * * * * * * *10.000 Norway * * * * * * * * * * * * * 10.000 Poland * * * * * * * * * * * * *120.000 Greece * * * * * * * * * * * * * 20.000 Yugoslavia * * * * * * * * * * *300.000 Checoslovaquia * * * * * * * * * 20.000 China * * * * * * * * * * * * 3.500.000 Oh man, that's a grotesque set of numbers. Just on the off-chance, have you ever seen Blackadder Goes Forth? Specifically the last episode? That'll choke you. |
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I'm old enough to remember when Nov 11 was celebrated as "Armistice Day" in honor of those who served in WWI. First celebrated to remember "The eleventh month, the eleventh day, the eleventh hour". The change to "Veteran's Day is a rather recent event. Lew |
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On 11/11/2010 5:29 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Subject I'm old enough to remember when Nov 11 was celebrated as "Armistice Day" in honor of those who served in WWI. First celebrated to remember "The eleventh month, the eleventh day, the eleventh hour". The change to "Veteran's Day is a rather recent event. Depends upon the perspective of age: June 1, 1954 My 25 daughter thinks it has always been that way ... and it has, to her. :) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On 11/11/2010 5:03 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Nov 11, 10:58 pm, wrote: British Empire and Commonwealth 452.000 France 250.000 USA 295.000 Soviet Union 13.600.000 Belgium 10.000 Holland 10.000 Norway 10.000 Poland 120.000 Greece 20.000 Yugoslavia 300.000 Checoslovaquia 20.000 China 3.500.000 Oh man, that's a grotesque set of numbers. Just on the off-chance, have you ever seen Blackadder Goes Forth? Specifically the last episode? That'll choke you. No ... never even heard of it until just now. But damn I love do love those BBC programs. You Brits historically have had the best written TV on the planet. The Masterpiece Theater series alone has been a source of years of top quality programming for us yanks. AAMOF, and IMO, your re-runs are about the only thing worth watching on the 500 available channel options I have ... a literal garbage heap, almost without exception. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Nov 11, 11:59*pm, Swingman wrote:
No ... never even heard of it until just now. It's ostensibly a comedy, but it's a pretty good satire of the time, too. But damn I love do love those BBC programs. You Brits historically have had the best written TV on the planet. glows with benign national pride! The Masterpiece Theater series alone has been a source of years of top quality programming for us yanks. I had to look that up - seems like it does have a fair share of good stuff. AAMOF, and IMO, your re-runs are about the only thing worth watching on the 500 available channel options I have ... a literal garbage heap, almost without exception. Yeah, sadly we are getting the same thing now - many channels of junk. But there are still the occasional gems to be found. Cracker is the last series I really got in to, but there is also a lot really good US stuff shown here, but I suppose we have less manure to shovel through to find it. For all the wrongness that has beset the BBC over the past decade or so, it still delivers good TV every now and again. But the radio side of the operation is the real gold mine at the minute, in my humble opinion. What saddens me the most is the dumbing-down of science shows. We used to have a terrific series called Horizon, it is no longer terrific. The last really good science show I saw was Aubrey Manning's 'Earth Story' (late 1990s) - absolutely brilliant, catch it if you can. Cheers. |
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A snappy salute to my late father, four tiny bronze stars on each of his WW
II United States Army Air Corps medals in the Pacific Theater. Steve |
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A hearty salute to every serviceman past and present.
Steve |
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On 11/11/2010 6:26 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Nov 11, 11:59 pm, wrote: But damn I love do love those BBC programs. You Brits historically have had the best written TV on the planet. glows with benign national pride! Don't blame you ... although a coonass from the swamps of S. Louisiana, I lived and worked in the UK back in the early 60's, my first wife (with a posh accent, and the reason why I never could stand the "East Enders" TV series with that damned cockney accent) was from Staines, just outside London. My oldest, born in Bryan, TX, but went to uni in Sheffield, is married to a fine Yorkshire lad, and they live, with my two grandsons, in Sheffield. I visit as often as I can, but not often enough. Having spent a couple of years there in the sixties, and again in the early seventies, every time I fly into Heathrow now and look down I can't believe how many houses there are ... sheesh! ;) You guys are filling that little island to the point that it's going to tip over (to paraphrase an American idiot politician). BTW, the first British TV program that just floored me was Peter Cook and Dudley Moore's "Not Only, But Also" ... perhaps before your time. :) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Nov 11, 12:06*pm, Han wrote:
" wrote in news:5c65203f-6678- : From one veteran to all others: I want to thank you for your service to our country. Hope you're having a great day. -- MJ Army 1966 - 1970 I'll be eternally thankful to all veterans, especially those who liberated Europe in WWII. My hat off to all veterans! -- Best regards Han email address is invalid Ditto. During an interview a WWII vet was asked if he considered himself a hero, having landed at Normandy.... he thought for a moment and said: "Naw...the heroes all died....." |
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daally....invalid.com says... Han wrote: " wrote in news:5c65203f-6678- : From one veteran to all others: I want to thank you for your service to our country. Hope you're having a great day. -- MJ Army 1966 - 1970 I'll be eternally thankful to all veterans, especially those who liberated Europe in WWII. My hat off to all veterans! With all due respects to your veterans Han, there were a few other countries who were actually fighting from 1939 to 1945. America entered the war in December 1941 and then *HELPED* to liberate Europe, along with the British, Anzac, Canadian, Indian, Polish, French, Russian and many other armies - as *THEY* helped America to defeat the Japanese. And another whiny twit plonked. America was also late entering the war to end all wars 1914 - 1918 and only participating from 1917. Please read a true history on those conflicts before you infer that America won anything single handily. Once again, my respects to *ALL* the allies that fought and died in war. |
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:46:25 -0800 (PST), David Paste
wrote: On Nov 11, 10:29*pm, "Lee Michaels" leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast dot net wrote: You Brits have taken weapons phobia to new heights. No, the government have probably looked at stats and decided that it's cheaper to stop people keeping guns than it is to treat the ensuing wounds, or to widely teach how to use them. Never under-estimate the ability of the UK 'government' to **** things up from the sole point of view of finance. BUT! Judging how many people in the US are killed / injured by firearms each year, and comparing that to other countries, notably Switzerland, it's clear that it is more complex than I am bothered about reading. The long and short of it means that bad guys in the UK will still be able to get hold of guns and use them nefariously, but children and clueless dip****s are MUCH less likely to accidentally shoot their foot off. Gun clubs are still relatively common in the UK, by the way. People who want to shoot safely, can do. Here in the USA, there are a few hundred million guns and over half of the deaths are from suicides, 56.1%). With no guns, why is it that you Brits have a higher -rate- of murder with guns than we do? Hmm? Because only the criminals have them now. Do you feel safer, booby? Hell, CARS kill more people than guns do here. Clueless dip**** kill and maim themselves and others at an astounding rate, and it doesn't matter what they have in their hands at the time. Generally, guns are kept out of their hands. You have brainwashed chefs proclaiming there is no needs for cooking knives. Other than the media will give air-time to any old bellend in the public eye who has an opinion, what does that prove? Like the "children shooting each other with guns" thing? Ten times more kids drown than are hurt with guns, but bad parenting isn't pursued as a crime until their poor kids hurt or kill themselves. We get media reports on a semi regular basis that shows one more idiotic example of you you are turning into a siisified nanny state. Give an example, please. I would hazard a guess that that in the majority of these 'reports', facts have been eschewed in favour of rabble-rousing rhetoric. And perhaps, alliteration. The US 'news' channels are world-renowned as being nothing more than corporate- funded opinion-mongers, not that the UK have much better, but you should be HUGELY sceptical of anything you see in the US news. Yup. sigh (That's why I turned it off several years ago and haven't missed it...at all.) How much better is your BBC, though? And there are many folks in the US who are trying to do this here as well. So do something about it then. Hopefully, we'll get rid of those rabble rousers and sanity will prevail. Is that what they fought and died for? *To be a bunch of sissies? No, I reckon that they probably fought to defeat fascism. Ignorance is a fascism, too, you know. Look at your country's statistics, man. Then you can be first to tell us about ignorance and denial from firsthand experience. It's not guns we need to get under control. It's criminals. DUH! -- To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure. -- J. K. Rowling |
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On Nov 12, 2:07*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote: Larry - did you actually read and comprehend what I wrote? Or just type out a knee-jerk reaction to each sentence? Come on man, you're better than that. |
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On Nov 12, 1:12*am, Swingman wrote:
Don't blame you ... although a coonass from the swamps of S. Louisiana, I lived and worked in the UK back in the early 60's, my first wife (with a posh accent, and the reason why I never could stand the "East Enders" TV series with that damned cockney accent) was from Staines, just outside London. My oldest, born in Bryan, TX, but went to uni in Sheffield, is married to a fine Yorkshire lad, and they live, with my two grandsons, in Sheffield. I have to say, I am mystified when people move TO the UK rather than FROM - life ain't the best here, it is terribly overcrowded, as you mention. And property prices? Well, it's a joke. The country is skint and not going to get better for a while. If I had the chance, I'd probably move to the states. But then again, the grass is always greener, no?! What did you do over here, just out of interest? I come from a town which used to have a huge US air base just to the north, several of my aunts got hitched to the airmen and not live the life of Riley on the west coast of America. I visit as often as I can, but not often enough. Having spent a couple of years there in the sixties, and again in the early seventies, every time I fly into Heathrow now and look down I can't believe how many houses there are ... sheesh! ;) The very idea of Heathrow is enough to make anyone nervous! If you're off to Sheffield, fly into Manchester if you can. You guys are filling that little island to the point that it's going to tip over (to paraphrase an American idiot politician). This is what worries me the most about the future (not just for the tiny island here, but the world too) - absurd birth rates and dwindling resources. I'm not an apocalyptic type, and I know we'll find ways of coping, but it'll inevitably be at the expense of personal space and the ability to just escape. /moan. BTW, the first British TV program that just floored me was Peter Cook and Dudley Moore's "Not Only, But Also" ... perhaps before your time. :) Ha! Not seen that, but had their records / tapes on almost continual repeat as a teenager. Funny stuff indeed. |
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It is absolutely incredible to me that a three line, heartfelt post
expressing appreciation for military veterans can be turned into the normal, whiny sewage this group turns out. How? How could some of you hijack a three sentence thread and turn it into a pedantic, snotty diatribe on your personal off topic opinions? WTF is the matter with you guys? All of us owe a great debt to those who have served and are serving. All of us. Every single one. To turn this thread into anything but an expression of that thought is petty and enormously selfish. Shame on some of you. So damn little is done these days to show how much we care about our veterans, especially those in need. Shame on you. As a small bit of show of my appreciation for a job well done, I will be serving the soldiers and their families dinner on Sunday at Brook Army Medical Center at the Intrepid facility. Their Veteran's Day dinner is held this weekend so that their families can be off work and school to come visit them in the hospital. http://www.fallenheroesfund.org/About-IFHF.aspx With the time and energy spent here with pedantic squabbling and wry political observations, why not REALLY give **** and do something besides talk about it? The link above has a button for anyone wanting to donate. Time around the brave soldiers at the center that have been brutally maimed is profoundly humbling. To see their struggle towards recovery will bring you to tears. Only one of my friends can take an evening of it, and it is gut wrenching. To have them **thank me** for volunteering makes me really, completely uncomfortable. It's just a few days of coordination and on evening on my part. For them? These guys are "catastrophically" wounded. Their lives are starting over. But on the other hand, an afternoon and evening with them can be rewarding as hell. I am pleased to be able to help where I can. I will also be on a fact finding mission Sunday to see if how many want a good cigar for the courtyard outside to smoke during Sunday night football. Cigars always seem to cheer these guys up, even though 99% of them never really smoke them. Those guys are what the day is about. You guys can take any thread you want to twist into a political rant or a pulpit to for your opinions Let this thread be. I would personally like to extend my heartfelt thanks and gratitude to all that have served and are serving. Robert |
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A lot of unburned off energy on this group.
It's real easy...just like this. Can you cite any references for your stupid claims? LOL wrote in message ... It is absolutely incredible to me that a three line, heartfelt post expressing appreciation for military veterans can be turned into the normal, whiny sewage this group turns out. How? How could some of you hijack a three sentence thread and turn it into a pedantic, snotty diatribe on your personal off topic opinions? WTF is the matter with you guys? All of us owe a great debt to those who have served and are serving. All of us. Every single one. To turn this thread into anything but an expression of that thought is petty and enormously selfish. Shame on some of you. So damn little is done these days to show how much we care about our veterans, especially those in need. Shame on you. As a small bit of show of my appreciation for a job well done, I will be serving the soldiers and their families dinner on Sunday at Brook Army Medical Center at the Intrepid facility. Their Veteran's Day dinner is held this weekend so that their families can be off work and school to come visit them in the hospital. http://www.fallenheroesfund.org/About-IFHF.aspx With the time and energy spent here with pedantic squabbling and wry political observations, why not REALLY give **** and do something besides talk about it? The link above has a button for anyone wanting to donate. Time around the brave soldiers at the center that have been brutally maimed is profoundly humbling. To see their struggle towards recovery will bring you to tears. Only one of my friends can take an evening of it, and it is gut wrenching. To have them **thank me** for volunteering makes me really, completely uncomfortable. It's just a few days of coordination and on evening on my part. For them? These guys are "catastrophically" wounded. Their lives are starting over. But on the other hand, an afternoon and evening with them can be rewarding as hell. I am pleased to be able to help where I can. I will also be on a fact finding mission Sunday to see if how many want a good cigar for the courtyard outside to smoke during Sunday night football. Cigars always seem to cheer these guys up, even though 99% of them never really smoke them. Those guys are what the day is about. You guys can take any thread you want to twist into a political rant or a pulpit to for your opinions Let this thread be. I would personally like to extend my heartfelt thanks and gratitude to all that have served and are serving. Robert |
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says... A lot of unburned off energy on this group. It's real easy...just like this. Can you cite any references for your stupid claims? LOL Josepi, FOAD. plonk |
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On 11/12/2010 9:50 AM, David Paste wrote:
What did you do over here, just out of interest? I come from a town which used to have a huge US air base just to the north, several of my aunts got hitched to the airmen and not live the life of Riley on the west coast of America. Civilian. I worked for Heston Aircraft out of Heston Airport, on the BAC 1-11. Also worked for a cabinetmaker in Hounslow whose family had been in business a couple of hundred years ... just a new business by y'alls standards. ;) I visit as often as I can, but not often enough. Having spent a couple of years there in the sixties, and again in the early seventies, every time I fly into Heathrow now and look down I can't believe how many houses there are ... sheesh! ;) The very idea of Heathrow is enough to make anyone nervous! If you're off to Sheffield, fly into Manchester if you can. I have friends in Staines, so always go for a visit of a few days of either end of the drive up to Sheffield. Ha! Not seen that, but had their records / tapes on almost continual repeat as a teenager. Funny stuff indeed. Nothing on earth like British humor ... takes some getting used to, but once you get it you don't need a laugh track to cue you. :) Good talking to you David ... maybe we can swing a visit on either end one of these days. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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wrote in message ... It is absolutely incredible to me .... [snipped everything] I don't intend to get into a debate about Veteran's Day so we will skip that. I am working class man, a socialist and a pacifist. I am sure you hate my politics and I can tell you the feeling is totally mutual. I don't come to this group posting stuff about the US military and all the crimes they commit and if I did you would probably have a lot to say about it. So why is it so incredible that posts about how great the US military is should provoke a response? Don't you know that waving your flag around is offensive and provocative? Welcome to the big wide world. Tim W |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message in.local... Didn't your mother ever teach you that there are times when if you can't say something nice you shouldn't say anything? If not, there are such times, and Veteran's Day is one of them. Exactly right. I am in total agreement. Tim W |
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Tim W wrote:
wrote in message ... It is absolutely incredible to me .... [snipped everything] I don't intend to get into a debate about Veteran's Day so we will skip that. I am working class man, a socialist and a pacifist. I am sure you hate my politics and I can tell you the feeling is totally mutual. I don't come to this group posting stuff about the US military and all the crimes they commit and if I did you would probably have a lot to say about it. So why is it so incredible that posts about how great the US military is should provoke a response? Don't you know that waving your flag around is offensive and provocative? Welcome to the big wide world. Tim W I guess it just sucks to be you then. -- -Mike- |
US Veteran's Day
Mike Marlow wrote:
Tim W wrote: wrote in message ... It is absolutely incredible to me .... [snipped everything] I don't intend to get into a debate about Veteran's Day so we will skip that. I am working class man, a socialist and a pacifist. I am sure you hate my politics and I can tell you the feeling is totally mutual. I don't come to this group posting stuff about the US military and all the crimes they commit and if I did you would probably have a lot to say about it. So why is it so incredible that posts about how great the US military is should provoke a response? Don't you know that waving your flag around is offensive and provocative? Welcome to the big wide world. Tim W I guess it just sucks to be you then. That's the trouble with many Yanks, they're big, thick, mean and won't accept any other opinion than theirs - even if that opinion is wrong. Believe me, in the great wide world (outside the USA borders that is), one of the most detested flags is "Old Glory", which to many, is synonymous with violence, greed, intransigence, bully-boy tactics, torture [1] and total lack of compassion. Since the fall of the USSR superpower, the brakes seem to have been removed and Americans now want not only to run their own country, but the rest of the world as well under their own dogma - and woe-betide those that disagree. [1] As authorised by the dumbest president you ever had, George Walker Bush, who during his presidency and in cahoots with his backers, has caused the world to be a far more dangerous place - along with the death and injury of thousands of American servicemen *AND* women (who you recently had cause to remember on your Veterans Day) for no other reason that the pure lust for oil from Arabian countries - no matter what the cost in lives. Before you spout off your vitriol: 9/11 was not the cause of the invasion of Iraq, there was no danger to America or the rest of the world there, and neither was Al Qaeda. Think I'm wrong, well look well beyond the end of the American nose and take a great big sniff! |
US Veteran's Day
On Nov 13, 9:02*am, "Disbelief" disbelief@diilly-
daally....invalid.com wrote: That's the trouble with many Yanks, they're big, thick, mean and won't accept any other opinion than theirs - even if that opinion is wrong. Which of course, begs the question of why we would accept another opinion if we know it is wrong? I am an unashamed flag waver of my country. I love the USA. We do a few things wrong, but we do a whole lot right. NO OTHER COUNTRY ON THIS EARTH is held to the same standards, the same scrutiny, or is judged so freely in the world court of opinion as the USA. This thread was started about appreciation of US (read: United States) veterans. Not about you, not about your country, not about your politics, your ideology, you personal feelings, or your ability to hijack a thread to suit your personal agenda. One more time, it was a simple expression of thanks to soldiers FROM THE US that served. (Read the topic heading. It should have been a clue.) However, your dumbass should know that when we have our Veterans Day events here, there are vets from all over the world that are honored. The foreign vets seem especially grateful to be remembered for their service. Think I'm wrong, well look well beyond the end of the American nose and take a great big sniff! I don't care about your opinion. It is your lack of respect for others that ****es me off. I cannot imagine a Brit posting an "England's Remembrance Day" topic and receiving a snotty and sanctimonious lecture on world politics from an American on how **** poor England is thought of across the world. I see from your post count and where your newsgroup posts land that you are either just a political troll, or a coward hiding behind a fake name. In either case, please go away. You are just about everything I can't stand in people regardless of their country of origin. Rudy, disrespectful, simple minded idiots know no home country. Troll boy, crawl back under your rock. Robert |
US Veteran's Day
On 11/13/2010 11:34 AM, wrote:
Troll boy, crawl back under your rock. In support of your post, I've lived in many countries, circled the globe a couple of times plus, and have yet to observe that the citizens of any one country are more or less perfect than those in any other. The vitriol spouted by the troll is no more than a public display of personal "ignorance", more to be pitied because he has to live with knowing, intimately, that that is the case ... anonymity notwithstanding. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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