Any guitar builders on here? I noticed the
brown paper information, this has nothing
to do with that exactly but..
I was reading about Martin Guitars HPL
material they use on the lower priced guitars.
and thats exactly what it is Brown Paper!
I found it Amazing. Its Actually Formica.
I guess they layer it and glue it, press it under
high pressure, until its stiff like wood, then make the guitar bodies.
They sound ok.
I thought it was interesting, I like guitars.

On 11/7/2010 11:25 AM, father M wrote:
Any guitar builders on here? I noticed the
brown paper information, this has nothing
to do with that exactly but..
I was reading about Martin Guitars HPL
material they use on the lower priced guitars.
and thats exactly what it is Brown Paper!
I found it Amazing. Its Actually Formica.
I guess they layer it and glue it, press it under
high pressure, until its stiff like wood, then make the guitar bodies.
They sound ok.
I thought it was interesting, I like guitars.

Funny you should mention that .. I was just heard my wife in the next
room on her cell phone, and she is apparently waking out the door as I
type this, on the way to Guitar Center buy three of those Martins for
some of her students.

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father M wrote:
Any guitar builders on here? I noticed the
brown paper information, this has nothing
to do with that exactly but..
I was reading about Martin Guitars HPL
material they use on the lower priced guitars.
and thats exactly what it is Brown Paper!
I found it Amazing. Its Actually Formica.
I guess they layer it and glue it, press it under
high pressure, until its stiff like wood, then make the guitar bodies.
They sound ok.
I thought it was interesting, I like guitars.


FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
build something else with strings, besides a kite!

Bill

On 11/7/2010 4:06 PM, Stuart wrote:
In ,
wrote:
FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
build something else with strings, besides a kite!

I always fancied having a go at a bowed psaltery. I've seen kits, they
don't look too dificult to make or play. I've heard one, its an almost
"not of this world" sound.

I recorded quite a few 'Early Music" ensembles in the past that used
them extensively ... it is indeed an eerie sound. Here's one of those
albums ... this group used the instrument quite a bit if you're looking
for other recordings of the sound:

http://www.folkharp.com/product/chevrefoil-cd

FWIW, this particular album was also sent into space on a NASA shuttle,
IIRC.

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Stuart wrote:
In ,
wrote:
FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
build something else with strings, besides a kite!

I always fancied having a go at a bowed psaltery. I've seen kits, they
don't look too dificult to make or play. I've heard one, its an almost
"not of this world" sound.



I haven't seen many of those in my musical circles. The closest things
are "mountain dulcimers", which may be a little easier to build because
of the absence of the bow. I thought one of those might be my first
instrument. Technically, it would be my second instrument as I already
built my wife a washtub bass. When I was at youtube listening to bowed
psaltery, I noticed a number of examples were duets between bowed
psaltery and mountain dulcimer, so there ya go. I've read a few books
on instrument building but I'm going to try my hand at building
something with a drawer before I try that! I'm still wet behind the
ears. ; )

Bill

On 11/7/2010 8:55 PM, Bill wrote:
Stuart wrote:
In ,
wrote:
FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
build something else with strings, besides a kite!

I always fancied having a go at a bowed psaltery. I've seen kits, they
don't look too dificult to make or play. I've heard one, its an almost
"not of this world" sound.



I haven't seen many of those in my musical circles. The closest things
are "mountain dulcimers", which may be a little easier to build because
of the absence of the bow. I thought one of those might be my first
instrument. Technically, it would be my second instrument as I already
built my wife a washtub bass. When I was at youtube listening to bowed
psaltery, I noticed a number of examples were duets between bowed
psaltery and mountain dulcimer, so there ya go. I've read a few books on
instrument building but I'm going to try my hand at building something
with a drawer before I try that! I'm still wet behind the ears. ; )

You want the best in mountain dulcimers look no further than below, they
don't come any better than Lloyd Frank Wright, or his mother, Margaret,
matriarch of the "The Wright Family" ... lloyd was two time mountain
dulcimer champion and one of the best in the world. I had the group in
the studio on a number of their albums, as well as two of Lloyds. Here's
the family web site:

http://www.jerrywrightfamily.com/index.htm

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Swingman wrote:
On 11/7/2010 8:55 PM, Bill wrote:
Stuart wrote:
In ,
wrote:
FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
build something else with strings, besides a kite!

I always fancied having a go at a bowed psaltery. I've seen kits, they
don't look too dificult to make or play. I've heard one, its an almost
"not of this world" sound.



I haven't seen many of those in my musical circles. The closest things
are "mountain dulcimers", which may be a little easier to build because
of the absence of the bow. I thought one of those might be my first
instrument. Technically, it would be my second instrument as I already
built my wife a washtub bass. When I was at youtube listening to bowed
psaltery, I noticed a number of examples were duets between bowed
psaltery and mountain dulcimer, so there ya go. I've read a few books on
instrument building but I'm going to try my hand at building something
with a drawer before I try that! I'm still wet behind the ears. ; )

You want the best in mountain dulcimers look no further than below, they
don't come any better than Lloyd Frank Wright, or his mother, Margaret,
matriarch of the "The Wright Family" ... lloyd was two time mountain
dulcimer champion and one of the best in the world. I had the group in
the studio on a number of their albums, as well as two of Lloyds. Here's
the family web site:

http://www.jerrywrightfamily.com/index.htm


I recognize a lot of the songs on their albums. I learned them under the
guise of 'folk music from Missouri'. The late John Hartford is my
favorite celebrator of that music. 'Hamilton Ironworks" is an album of
his I really like. Others, where he is being a little too whacky for my
tastes, I don't prefer. So don't make up your mind on one song. Though
he did write the song Gentle On My Mind, made famous by Glen Cambell.
Everyone is probably familiar with that one, though maybe not it's source.

Bill

On 11/7/2010 9:48 PM, Bill wrote:
Swingman wrote:
On 11/7/2010 8:55 PM, Bill wrote:
Stuart wrote:
In ,
wrote:
FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
build something else with strings, besides a kite!

I always fancied having a go at a bowed psaltery. I've seen kits, they
don't look too dificult to make or play. I've heard one, its an almost
"not of this world" sound.



I haven't seen many of those in my musical circles. The closest things
are "mountain dulcimers", which may be a little easier to build because
of the absence of the bow. I thought one of those might be my first
instrument. Technically, it would be my second instrument as I already
built my wife a washtub bass. When I was at youtube listening to bowed
psaltery, I noticed a number of examples were duets between bowed
psaltery and mountain dulcimer, so there ya go. I've read a few books on
instrument building but I'm going to try my hand at building something
with a drawer before I try that! I'm still wet behind the ears. ; )

You want the best in mountain dulcimers look no further than below, they
don't come any better than Lloyd Frank Wright, or his mother, Margaret,
matriarch of the "The Wright Family" ... lloyd was two time mountain
dulcimer champion and one of the best in the world. I had the group in
the studio on a number of their albums, as well as two of Lloyds. Here's
the family web site:

http://www.jerrywrightfamily.com/index.htm


I recognize a lot of the songs on their albums. I learned them under the
guise of 'folk music from Missouri'. The late John Hartford is my
favorite celebrator of that music. 'Hamilton Ironworks" is an album of
his I really like. Others, where he is being a little too whacky for my
tastes, I don't prefer. So don't make up your mind on one song. Though
he did write the song Gentle On My Mind, made famous by Glen Cambell.
Everyone is probably familiar with that one, though maybe not it's source.

My favorite is "Steam Powered Areo Plane", one of the staples of banjo
players back in my bluegrass banjo days. I worked with John many years
ago. One of the nicest guys in the music business in those days. Was
saddened to see him pass away.

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On 2010-11-07 21:55:39 -0500, Bill said:

I haven't seen many of those in my musical circles. The closest things
are "mountain dulcimers", which may be a little easier to build because
of the absence of the bow. I thought one of those might be my first
instrument. Technically, it would be my second instrument as I already
built my wife a washtub bass. When I was at youtube listening to bowed
psaltery, I noticed a number of examples were duets between bowed
psaltery and mountain dulcimer, so there ya go. I've read a few books
on instrument building but I'm going to try my hand at building
something with a drawer before I try that! I'm still wet behind the
ears. ; )

If you stop at Tamarack on the West Virginia Turnpike, you'll find a
couple who are Artists-in-Residence -- they build psaltries, both bowed
and plucked. You'll also find some goregeous furniture built by Probst
Furniture Makers (http://www.probstfurniture.com). And if you've a mind
to spend some more money, there's a near-boundless selection of the
turners' art.

On Nov 7, 12:25*pm, (father M) wrote:
Any guitar builders on here? I noticed the
brown paper information, this has nothing
to do with that exactly but..
I was reading about Martin Guitars HPL
material they use on the lower priced guitars.
and thats exactly what it is Brown Paper!
I found it Amazing. Its Actually Formica.
I guess they layer it and glue it, press it under
high pressure, until its stiff like wood, then make the guitar bodies.
They sound ok.
I thought it was interesting, I like guitars.

Have fun repairing it if it chips or cracks. For $720, I
want wood, not formica. Nothing against formica, per se,
but $100 would be closer to a realistic price.