About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

On 10/18/2010 2:46 PM, Jim in Milwaukee wrote:
About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

I've got the RO 125, the RTS 400, and the DTS 400. There is a new one
that is being sold in Europe, the RO 90, that is supposedly due in NA
soon, that will be next on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dWpd-6tm4

Amazing how much time these sanders save on a project ... and how much
cleanup time, to boot.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Swingman" wrote in message
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On 10/18/2010 2:46 PM, Jim in Milwaukee wrote:
About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

I've got the RO 125, the RTS 400, and the DTS 400. There is a new one that
is being sold in Europe, the RO 90, that is supposedly due in NA soon,
that will be next on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dWpd-6tm4

Amazing how much time these sanders save on a project ... and how much
cleanup time, to boot.


Damn, I thought it was only a smaller version of the bigger Rotex sanders
but a detail sander too.

Leon wrote:
wrote in message
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On 10/18/2010 2:46 PM, Jim in Milwaukee wrote:
About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

I've got the RO 125, the RTS 400, and the DTS 400. There is a new one that
is being sold in Europe, the RO 90, that is supposedly due in NA soon,
that will be next on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dWpd-6tm4

Amazing how much time these sanders save on a project ... and how much
cleanup time, to boot.


Damn, I thought it was only a smaller version of the bigger Rotex sanders
but a detail sander too.




That was a pretty compelling video (picture worth a 1000 words)! I like
the way it reaches in the corners.

Bill

"Bill" wrote in message
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Leon wrote:
wrote in message
I've got the RO 125, the RTS 400, and the DTS 400. There is a new one
that
is being sold in Europe, the RO 90, that is supposedly due in NA soon,
that will be next on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dWpd-6tm4

Amazing how much time these sanders save on a project ... and how much
cleanup time, to boot.


Damn, I thought it was only a smaller version of the bigger Rotex sanders
but a detail sander too.




That was a pretty compelling video (picture worth a 1000 words)! I like
the way it reaches in the corners.

Bill

If I already did not have a Festool Rotex 125 the rectangle Festool 400 and
a Fein Multimaster I'd be waiting with out patience.

On 10/18/2010 6:39 PM, Leon wrote:
wrote in message
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On 10/18/2010 2:46 PM, Jim in Milwaukee wrote:
About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

I've got the RO 125, the RTS 400, and the DTS 400. There is a new one that
is being sold in Europe, the RO 90, that is supposedly due in NA soon,
that will be next on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dWpd-6tm4

Amazing how much time these sanders save on a project ... and how much
cleanup time, to boot.


Damn, I thought it was only a smaller version of the bigger Rotex sanders
but a detail sander too.


Wonder what the price tag will be on this one.

Jim

"Jim in Milwaukee" wrote in message
m...


On 10/18/2010 6:39 PM, Leon wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 10/18/2010 2:46 PM, Jim in Milwaukee wrote:
About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

I've got the RO 125, the RTS 400, and the DTS 400. There is a new one
that
is being sold in Europe, the RO 90, that is supposedly due in NA soon,
that will be next on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dWpd-6tm4

Amazing how much time these sanders save on a project ... and how much
cleanup time, to boot.


Damn, I thought it was only a smaller version of the bigger Rotex sanders
but a detail sander too.


Wonder what the price tag will be on this one.


My guess between $375 and $475.

On Oct 19, 4:30*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Jim in Milwaukee" wrote in messagenews:UIGdnTm3p64cOSDRnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@super news.com...







On 10/18/2010 6:39 PM, Leon wrote:
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om...
On 10/18/2010 2:46 PM, Jim in Milwaukee wrote:
About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

I've got the RO 125, the RTS 400, and the DTS 400. There is a new one
that
is being sold in Europe, the RO 90, that is supposedly due in NA soon,
that will be next on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dWpd-6tm4

Amazing how much time these sanders save on a project ... and how much
cleanup time, to boot.

Damn, I thought it was only a smaller version of the bigger Rotex sanders
but a detail sander too.

Wonder what the price tag will be on this one.

My guess between $375 and $475.

Under 400... has to be.

On Oct 18, 5:24*pm, Swingman wrote:
On 10/18/2010 2:46 PM, Jim in Milwaukee wrote:

About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

I've got the RO 125, the RTS 400, and the DTS 400. There is a new one
that is being sold in Europe, the RO 90, that is supposedly due in NA
soon, that will be next on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dWpd-6tm4

Amazing how much time these sanders save on a project ... and how much
cleanup time, to boot.

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

sunsabitches....... I neeeeeed one.

On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:24:56 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 10/18/2010 2:46 PM, Jim in Milwaukee wrote:
About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

I've got the RO 125, the RTS 400, and the DTS 400. There is a new one
that is being sold in Europe, the RO 90, that is supposedly due in NA
soon, that will be next on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dWpd-6tm4

Amazing how much time these sanders save on a project ... and how much
cleanup time, to boot.


I still have to check and be sure the Rotek is really sanding. Too
quiet no dust I'll get used to it eventually. Find I'm really
disgusted when I use the belt sander with the mess.

Mike M

"Mike M" wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:24:56 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 10/18/2010 2:46 PM, Jim in Milwaukee wrote:
About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

I've got the RO 125, the RTS 400, and the DTS 400. There is a new one
that is being sold in Europe, the RO 90, that is supposedly due in NA
soon, that will be next on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dWpd-6tm4

Amazing how much time these sanders save on a project ... and how much
cleanup time, to boot.


I still have to check and be sure the Rotek is really sanding. Too
quiet no dust I'll get used to it eventually. Find I'm really
disgusted when I use the belt sander with the mess.

Mike M

I don't find it much quieter than my old PC right angle ROS unless you are
talking about the quiet from the vac also, but it took me about a year to
get use to no seeing dust. It really does make you wonder if you are doing
anything until you slide your hand across the surface.

"Leon" wrote in
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"Mike M" wrote in message
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I still have to check and be sure the Rotek is really sanding. Too
quiet no dust I'll get used to it eventually. Find I'm really
disgusted when I use the belt sander with the mess.

Mike M

I don't find it much quieter than my old PC right angle ROS unless you
are talking about the quiet from the vac also, but it took me about a
year to get use to no seeing dust. It really does make you wonder if
you are doing anything until you slide your hand across the surface.


How are these on vibration? I can't use half the sanders out there
because they simply vibrate too much.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message
eb.com...
"Leon" wrote in
:


"Mike M" wrote in message
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I still have to check and be sure the Rotek is really sanding. Too
quiet no dust I'll get used to it eventually. Find I'm really
disgusted when I use the belt sander with the mess.

Mike M

I don't find it much quieter than my old PC right angle ROS unless you
are talking about the quiet from the vac also, but it took me about a
year to get use to no seeing dust. It really does make you wonder if
you are doing anything until you slide your hand across the surface.


How are these on vibration? I can't use half the sanders out there
because they simply vibrate too much.

Festool has a couple of "normal/standard" ROS with round disks. And the
ETS125 is absolutely silky smooth and you can simply set it down on the
work, turned on, and guide/push it with your finger if you chose to do that.
;~) Although not as aggressive as the Rotex sanders.

http://www.festoolusa.com/products/o...er-571610.html

The Rotex sanders naturally have a bit more vibration especially in their
"belt sander" aggressive mode. My rectangle pad RTS400 sander does not make
my hand tingle after extensive use like both of my older PC SpeedBloc finish
sanders did and those things were pretty nice.

On 10/18/2010 4:24 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 10/18/2010 2:46 PM, Jim in Milwaukee wrote:
About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

I've got the RO 125, the RTS 400, and the DTS 400. There is a new one
that is being sold in Europe, the RO 90, that is supposedly due in NA
soon, that will be next on my list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dWpd-6tm4

Amazing how much time these sanders save on a project ... and how much
cleanup time, to boot.

I agree on the time and cleanup.

Jim

On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:46:53 -0500, Jim in Milwaukee
wrote:

About a week ago, I was sanding with a PC ROS hooked up to my Shop Vac
QSP when the vac decided not to turn off and on with the sander. So off
to Woodcraft and came home with a Fein Turbo II. Much better, more
suction, etc. This weekend, Friday, went to Woodcraft for their open
house/sale. Sunday, the sander decided to random orbit about 10 times a
minute. Had the sander had any compassion, it would have died Thursday.
Today, off to Woodcraft again. Now the proud owner of a Festool ETS 125
EQ ROS. What a difference.

Piece of advice, I find I get much better results with the white
"brilliant" paper than the red "rubin" which gave me no end of trouble
with swirl marks.

-Kevin