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Screwed up screw holes
More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring
screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? Max |
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On Sep 21, 3:47*pm, "Max" wrote:
More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. *It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. *(it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? Max I've never seen that kit, but one can do pretty much the same thing by drilling a hole with a brad point wood bit, and then gluing in a piece of dowel. Marty |
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"Marty" wrote in message
... On Sep 21, 3:47 pm, "Max" wrote: More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? Max I've never seen that kit, but one can do pretty much the same thing by drilling a hole with a brad point wood bit, and then gluing in a piece of dowel. Marty You're right, of course, and I've thought of that, even used that but I'm wondering if the kit is still available or if the market disappeared because everyone thought like you and me. Max |
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Toothpicks and glue.
"Max" wrote in message ... More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? Max |
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Toothpicks and glue. WINNER!!!!! |
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In , Josepi spewed forth: Toothpicks and glue. "Max" wrote in message ... More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? Max I find that a wooden skewer works as well and is a bit quicker. YMMV |
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"Max" wrote in message ... More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? You're not dreaming. I've still got one. It came from Garrett Wade on a visit to New York (I think Woodcraft Supply used to carry them too?). It works OK but the plug is end grain so not particularly strong. I tend to reach for a couple of matchsticks (or use a plastic wall plug). Lee Valley does the kit: http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...80,42240,53317 |
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"Norman Billingham" norman.at.tumulus.org.uk wrote in message
... "Max" wrote in message ... More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? You're not dreaming. I've still got one. It came from Garrett Wade on a visit to New York (I think Woodcraft Supply used to carry them too?). It works OK but the plug is end grain so not particularly strong. I tend to reach for a couple of matchsticks (or use a plastic wall plug). Lee Valley does the kit: http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...80,42240,53317 Bingo. That's it. I must have missed it in my LV catalog. Thanks. Max |
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Max wrote the following:
"Norman Billingham" norman.at.tumulus.org.uk wrote in message ... "Max" wrote in message ... More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? You're not dreaming. I've still got one. It came from Garrett Wade on a visit to New York (I think Woodcraft Supply used to carry them too?). It works OK but the plug is end grain so not particularly strong. I tend to reach for a couple of matchsticks (or use a plastic wall plug). Lee Valley does the kit: http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...80,42240,53317 Bingo. That's it. I must have missed it in my LV catalog. Thanks. Max That looks weaker than a unsharpened dowel glued into a regularly drilled hole. You use the drills you already have and you don't need a pencil sharpener. You save $20 + shipping too. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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"willshak" wrote in message
m... Max wrote the following: "Norman Billingham" norman.at.tumulus.org.uk wrote in message ... "Max" wrote in message ... More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? You're not dreaming. I've still got one. It came from Garrett Wade on a visit to New York (I think Woodcraft Supply used to carry them too?). It works OK but the plug is end grain so not particularly strong. I tend to reach for a couple of matchsticks (or use a plastic wall plug). Lee Valley does the kit: http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...80,42240,53317 Bingo. That's it. I must have missed it in my LV catalog. Thanks. Max That looks weaker than a unsharpened dowel glued into a regularly drilled hole. You use the drills you already have and you don't need a pencil sharpener. You save $20 + shipping too. -- Bill You're right, of course, and I've thought of that, even used that but I'm wondering if the kit is still available or if the market disappeared because everyone thought like you and me. Max |
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"willshak" wrote in message m... Max wrote the following: "Norman Billingham" norman.at.tumulus.org.uk wrote in message ... "Max" wrote in message ... More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a chop http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...80,42240,53317 Bingo. That's it. I must have missed it in my LV catalog. Thanks. Max That looks weaker than a unsharpened dowel glued into a regularly drilled hole. You use the drills you already have and you don't need a pencil sharpener. You save $20 + shipping too. I'm thinking that in theory you are getting a little close to a long-grain to long-grain glue joint with this tool but there is still the issue of having end grain into which to drive screws... This sort of suggests to me that a flat bottom hole with plugs is the strongest hole fixer as you'd have a long-grain to long-grain glue joint on the bottom and would be screwing into long grain. Let the theory debate being! John |
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"Norman Billingham" norman.at.tumulus.org.uk wrote in message ... "Max" wrote in message ... More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? You're not dreaming. I've still got one. It came from Garrett Wade on a visit to New York (I think Woodcraft Supply used to carry them too?). It works OK but the plug is end grain so not particularly strong. I tend to reach for a couple of matchsticks (or use a plastic wall plug). Lee Valley does the kit: Plastic wall plug? Now that is something I will try. I have always used a birch dowel and glue. Also drilled center of dowel to avoid cracking it. WW http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/pag...80,42240,53317 |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:47:43 -0600, "Max"
wrote: More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? Max What's the advantage of the tapered hole/plug? Seems to me a straight hole/plug would work as well or better. I ask in ernest. -Zz |
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Zz Yzx wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:47:43 -0600, wrote: More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? Max What's the advantage of the tapered hole/plug? Seems to me a straight hole/plug would work as well or better. I ask in ernest. -Zz I think it is not so much the tapered plug as the pointed reamer that will follow a screw-hole much easier than a drill bit. I think a drill bit with a conical tip would have been more ideal but harder to make. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA Acting without thinking can be awfully entertaining. |
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On 9/22/2010 7:08 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
Zz Yzx wrote: On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:47:43 -0600, wrote: More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? Max What's the advantage of the tapered hole/plug? Seems to me a straight hole/plug would work as well or better. I ask in ernest. -Zz I think it is not so much the tapered plug as the pointed reamer that will follow a screw-hole much easier than a drill bit. I think a drill bit with a conical tip would have been more ideal but harder to make. Any twist-drill has a conical tip. There are also the special tapered bits intended for old-fashioned wood screws. |
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On Sep 21, 5:38*pm, Zz Yzx wrote:
What's the advantage of the tapered hole/plug? *Seems to me a straight hole/plug would work as well or better. *I ask in ernest. It's a 'locking taper'; pressing the plug self-clamps it when you glue it into place. The hole, too, is going to be a more accurate shape than with a standard twist drill doing a cylindrical hole. The conical cutter isn't as quick, doesn't pull chips out as fast, but it makes an accurate mating surface and is insensitive to the guidance of the drill. Center drills for machining metal are likewise more accurate in hole shape than twist drills. |
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"Max" wrote in message ... More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? Max Lee Valley. |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:47:43 -0600, "Max"
wrote: More years ago than I can remember I came across a little kit for restoring screw holes. It was particularly handy for moving a strike plate for a door latch. The kit had a tapered bit to drill a hole that accepted a plug shaped like the sharpened end of a pencil. (it also included a pencil shaped piece of wood that could be sharpened in a pencil sharpener and used as a plug.) I've lost it, looked in all the catalogs I have and am beginning to wonder if I dreamed it. Anyone familiar with the device? Yeah, they were OK, but they didn't work any better than doweling. I keep a length of 1/4" dowel in the truck and use that when I need to repair a client jamb. 1/4" drill, spot of TiteBond II, tap it in, flushcut it, drill a new screwhole, insert screw. 10 minutes for a permanent, professional fix. For those clients who wish me to think of them in a Chinese curse, I keep a short length of 3/8" dowel in the truck, too. They're the type who think "Maybe a couple thousand more revolutions with my Crapsman drill and a 3" drywall screw will make it catch." -- Some people hear voices. Some see invisible people. Others have no imagination whatsoever. |
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