When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool. That thing got me out of trouble so many times that I vowed
to immediately buy myself a new one after the sale of the company was
completed.

Then I remembered the many mentions of the HF version in here so I
went out to investigate. Turns out that there are many versions,
mostly in different clothes(colours and packaging). I broke down and
bought the Genesis version. Identical to the HF version.
For the price of a couple of Fein blades.

Works just as well as the Fein, with one exception. When I used to
really lean into the Fein, it barely complained. This Genesis slows
down and complains. Longevity is likely on the side of the Fein.
But for just over 40 bucks?
Nothing to talk about. Such a deal.

On Jun 27, 11:57*am, Robatoy wrote:

Works just as well as the Fein, with one exception. When I used to
really lean into the Fein, it barely complained. This Genesis slows
down and complains. Longevity is likely on the side of the Fein.
But for just over 40 bucks?
Nothing to talk about. Such a deal.

Yeah.... I am tired of beating myself up over not spending a wad of
dough for some tools. I want the cheaper tools to be crappy, to be
undependable, to not work well, and to generally let me down.
However, that isn't the case with most of them these days.

For years now I have been matching the task/tool/price, and the
Chiawanese tools seem to do quite well. I threw in the towel
altogether when I saw that my favorite brand, Milwaukee, manufactures
all but one or two tools in Chiawan now.

I have a great compressor that I bought at HF for $89 bucks. Great
for wagging between jobsites. I have a couple of grinders that won't
die, as well as a 7" polishing kit from HF that work as well as when
new.

The HF multitool was a show stopper. I use the HF single speed model
all the time, and while it gets hot, it never bogs down. I have
plunge cut through 1 1/2" of asphalt roofing to do roof repair and
install a drain, cut 20' of siding to move the bottom of the wood 2"
off the adjoining surface, cut door jambs, used the scraper blade to
peel old asphalt off flashings, etc., etc. You name it.

IF I had known how handy that damn tool was, I would have bought the
Fein and been happy to drop the $250 + blades. But at $35 with 3
blades and the sanding attachment, it made it that much better.
Besides, at $35, even my tightfisted squarehead self couldn't find a
reason not to buy one. HF even makes a variable speed version
(although they sell so fast they never have them in the store).. It
is often on sale for $59.

Since so many DeWalt, Porter Cable, Hitachi, Stanley, Milwaukee, Duo
Fast, Bostitich, Makita, and on and on are all built in Asia these
days, my heartburn went away long ago about buying tools from Asian
countries. I believe in many cases the models from different
companies come down to different colors of plastic injection molding
pieces and the cheesy sticker (previously known as the badge).

All I look for now is a sturdy build, reliability and reasonable
price.

Robert

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 00:10:07 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote the following:

On Jun 27, 11:57*am, Robatoy wrote:

Works just as well as the Fein, with one exception. When I used to
really lean into the Fein, it barely complained. This Genesis slows
down and complains. Longevity is likely on the side of the Fein.
But for just over 40 bucks?
Nothing to talk about. Such a deal.

Yeah.... I am tired of beating myself up over not spending a wad of
dough for some tools. I want the cheaper tools to be crappy, to be
undependable, to not work well, and to generally let me down.
However, that isn't the case with most of them these days.

Precisely!


For years now I have been matching the task/tool/price, and the
Chiawanese tools seem to do quite well. I threw in the towel
altogether when I saw that my favorite brand, Milwaukee, manufactures
all but one or two tools in Chiawan now.

I have a great compressor that I bought at HF for $89 bucks. Great
for wagging between jobsites. I have a couple of grinders that won't
die, as well as a 7" polishing kit from HF that work as well as when
new.

I got the little 3/4hp Ingy there at HF and it's handy for jobsites. I
fill a 5gal portable tank and connected a 50'x3/8" lightweight hose to
it for convenience. Wunnerful! I fit a male connector on the pump
and just connect the hose to it when the pressure drops below 55psi,
about the lowest the brad nailah will go.


The HF multitool was a show stopper. I use the HF single speed model
all the time, and while it gets hot, it never bogs down. I have
plunge cut through 1 1/2" of asphalt roofing to do roof repair and
install a drain, cut 20' of siding to move the bottom of the wood 2"
off the adjoining surface, cut door jambs, used the scraper blade to
peel old asphalt off flashings, etc., etc. You name it.

Ooh, roofing cleanup, you say? I need to redo my back porch roof with
roll roofing this summer and that might be a great tool for cutting
the old crap off.


IF I had known how handy that damn tool was, I would have bought the
Fein and been happy to drop the $250 + blades. But at $35 with 3
blades and the sanding attachment, it made it that much better.
Besides, at $35, even my tightfisted squarehead self couldn't find a
reason not to buy one. HF even makes a variable speed version
(although they sell so fast they never have them in the store).. It
is often on sale for $59.

I'm perfectly happy with the $34 single speed. I cut notches for 4x4s
with it quite often. What a timesaver!


Since so many DeWalt, Porter Cable, Hitachi, Stanley, Milwaukee, Duo
Fast, Bostitich, Makita, and on and on are all built in Asia these
days, my heartburn went away long ago about buying tools from Asian
countries. I believe in many cases the models from different
companies come down to different colors of plastic injection molding
pieces and the cheesy sticker (previously known as the badge).

All I look for now is a sturdy build, reliability and reasonable
price.

That's why I became an HF convert early on. Some tools are cheap
enough to use once and throw away if necessary, but it's very, very
seldom necessary.

My last purchase was their portable bandsaw. ($60 with coupon, plus
$19 for a trio of Milwaukee bimetal blades.) Before that it was the
12" SCMS for $149 (less $30 with coupon.) All work quite well.

And if a HF tool fails, you can simply return it for a no-hassle
refund. I did that with their knockout punch set, whose die threads
were made in China and the screw made in Taiwan, probably to different
tolerances by blind deaf-mutes. It was a loose fit and stripped out
on the second turn. I didn't try another one, as a Greenlee 1.5/2" set
was sent to me by an eBay vendor for the same price and it worked just
fine.

--
The most powerful factors in the world are clear ideas
in the minds of energetic men of good will.
-- J. Arthur Thomson

Robatoy wrote:

Then I remembered the many mentions of the HF version in here so I
went out to investigate. Turns out that there are many versions,
mostly in different clothes(colours and packaging). I broke down and
bought the Genesis version. Identical to the HF version.
For the price of a couple of Fein blades.


So you bought a knock-off of the Harbor Freight tool?

Is there no brand loyalty any more? No reward for the HF innovation of being
first-to-market after the Fein patent expired? No thought given to keeping
the Chinese working?

On Jun 28, 4:10*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Robatoy wrote:

Then I remembered the many mentions of the HF version in here so I
went out to investigate. Turns out that there are many versions,
mostly in different clothes(colours and packaging). I broke down and
bought the Genesis version. Identical to the HF version.
For the price of a couple of Fein blades.

So you bought a knock-off of the Harbor Freight tool?

Is there no brand loyalty any more? No reward for the HF innovation of being
first-to-market after the Fein patent expired? No thought given to keeping
the Chinese working?

I'm a slut. A non-apologetic slut at that. It is in fact the identical
tool to the CE or HF.. just different colours. Mine is a green.. more
like an aquamarine with a hint of chartreuse, a bit more slate than
what I like....
We do not have HF here in Canuckistan. We have Princess Auto. From
what I have been able to tell, they dip their wick in the same wax as
HF.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!! There's
More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago is that
extra long cord.

On 6/28/2010 6:23 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago is
that extra long cord.

Ditto ... you could calf rope with that thing!

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Jun 28, 7:42*pm, Swingman wrote:
On 6/28/2010 6:23 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:

"Robatoy" wrote in message
....
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago is
that extra long cord.

Ditto ... you could calf rope with that thing!

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

You mean there's a tool on the end of that cord somewhere?

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:42:37 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 6/28/2010 6:23 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago is
that extra long cord.

Ditto ... you could calf rope with that thing!

None the less that thing saved my ass so many times its worth 3 times
the cost. When your working an off hour commercial job and your knock
off quits you'll wish you bought the better tool. I used to hate
night jobs in malls for that reason, anything went wrong it came down
to what you had in the truck.

Mike M

We have Busy Bee who sell some clone brand and then there is King who makes
their own version of everything known in powertools.

I picked a King up a contractor's tool store that also sells Fein.
Variable speed for $59, and then I bought a few of the carbide blades -
tile cutter, and rasp


"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On Jun 28, 4:10 pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Robatoy wrote:

Then I remembered the many mentions of the HF version in here so I
went out to investigate. Turns out that there are many versions,
mostly in different clothes(colours and packaging). I broke down and
bought the Genesis version. Identical to the HF version.
For the price of a couple of Fein blades.

So you bought a knock-off of the Harbor Freight tool?

Is there no brand loyalty any more? No reward for the HF innovation of
being
first-to-market after the Fein patent expired? No thought given to keeping
the Chinese working?

I'm a slut. A non-apologetic slut at that. It is in fact the identical
tool to the CE or HF.. just different colours. Mine is a green.. more
like an aquamarine with a hint of chartreuse, a bit more slate than
what I like....
We do not have HF here in Canuckistan. We have Princess Auto. From
what I have been able to tell, they dip their wick in the same wax as
HF.

On Jun 28, 11:19*pm, Mike M wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:42:37 -0500, Swingman wrote:
On 6/28/2010 6:23 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
....
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago is
that extra long cord.

Ditto ... you could calf rope with that thing!

None the less that thing saved my ass so many times its worth 3 times
the cost. *When your working an off hour commercial job and your knock
off quits you'll wish you bought the better tool. * I used to hate
night jobs in malls for that reason, anything went wrong it came down
to what you had in the truck.

Mike M

You are so right. I worked on countertops in casinos... between 3 AM
and 6 AM Wednesdays only. I had duplicates of most tools, in fact
justabout the whole shop in my trucks. No, I would not depend on el-
cheapos under those conditions.

Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago
is that extra long cord.

Good point. Some years back, I bought a spool of zip cord. I use it to add
about twenty feet to almost all my power tools, vacuum and shop cleaners,
etc.

"HeyBub" wrote in message
news
Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago
is that extra long cord.

Good point. Some years back, I bought a spool of zip cord. I use it to add
about twenty feet to almost all my power tools, vacuum and shop cleaners,
etc.


Why didn't I think of that! (SMACKS FOREHEAD!!)

On Jun 29, 5:09*pm, "Lobby Dosser" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

news




Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
....
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago
is that extra long cord.

Good point. Some years back, I bought a spool of zip cord. I use it to add
about twenty feet to almost all my power tools, vacuum and shop cleaners,
etc.

Why didn't I think of that! (SMACKS FOREHEAD!!)

I DID think of that but took it one step further. I installed a
connector so if I didn't need all of the length, I could just
disconnect the added cord and still use the cord that came with the
tool straight into the receptacle. That longer cord is also usable
with other tools. Pretty clever, eh?

Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 29, 5:09 pm, "Lobby Dosser" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

news




Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.
Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!
They must be feeling the pain.
Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago
is that extra long cord.
Good point. Some years back, I bought a spool of zip cord. I use it to add
about twenty feet to almost all my power tools, vacuum and shop cleaners,
etc.
Why didn't I think of that! (SMACKS FOREHEAD!!)

I DID think of that but took it one step further. I installed a
connector so if I didn't need all of the length, I could just
disconnect the added cord and still use the cord that came with the
tool straight into the receptacle. That longer cord is also usable
with other tools. Pretty clever, eh?
They call these "extension cords" I saw them at Home Depot.

On Jun 29, 7:07*pm, Chuck wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 29, 5:09 pm, "Lobby Dosser" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

newsoWdnSvZdOhHyrfRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink. com...

Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.
Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!
They must be feeling the pain.
Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago
is that extra long cord.
Good point. Some years back, I bought a spool of zip cord. I use it to add
about twenty feet to almost all my power tools, vacuum and shop cleaners,
etc.
Why didn't I think of that! (SMACKS FOREHEAD!!)

I DID think of that but took it one step further. I installed a
connector so if I didn't need all of the length, I could just
disconnect the added cord and still use the cord that came with the
tool straight into the receptacle. That longer cord is also usable
with other tools. Pretty clever, eh?

They call these "extension cords" I saw them at Home Depot.

Story of my life. I come up with a good idea and somebody beat me to
it. I even developed the idea out to the option of making different
lengths. Oh well.

"nailshooter41 aol.com" nailshooter41 aol.com wrote:

Robatoy counterfit... gmail.com wrote:

Works just as well as the Fein, with one exception. When I used
to really lean into the Fein, it barely complained. This
Genesis slows down and complains. Longevity is likely on the
side of the Fein. But for just over 40 bucks? Nothing to talk
about. Such a deal.

Yeah.... I am tired of beating myself up over not spending a wad
of dough for some tools. I want the cheaper tools to be crappy,
to be undependable, to not work well, and to generally let me
down. However, that isn't the case with most of them these
days.

For years now I have been matching the task/tool/price, and the
Chiawanese tools seem to do quite well. I threw in the towel
altogether when I saw that my favorite brand, Milwaukee,
manufactures all but one or two tools in Chiawan now.

You do not have to stop trying...

The problem did not begin as black and white, and it did not
happen overnight. And in fact, it is still not black and white in
every case. The problem happened progressively over many years
because too many consumers wanted to save a few pennies and could
not care less about putting their fellow countrymen out of work at
the same time. The "greed is good" and "jobs Americans won't do"
mindset of many of our politicians is what led the way.

Trade is good when your trading partner has natural resources or a
climate that you do not have. Trade is bad when a communist
country uses slave labor in subhuman working conditions to
underprice your own workers.

The problem is not just whether they are making adequate products,
the problem is that they are gobbling up our manufacturing
capability, to the point that we cannot manufacture anything for
ourselves. Besides putting your neighbor out of work, there is a
significant danger in that.

Democracies would band together, if our leadership were capable
enough. Unfortunately, George Bush Junior's was probably the most
suck ass presidency in the 20th century.

To the partisan blind right wing zealots who cannot think for
themselves... You are the very reason that Obama (the other
extreme) is in the White House. Current Republicans are nothing
like Ronald Reagan. You would have never heard him say anything
like "greed is good" or "jobs Americans won't do". That "me first"
bull**** is a glaring sign of pathetic leadership, something
Ronald Reagan (temporarily) helped sweep away.
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Subject: Multi-Tool (Fein vs Genesis/HF/PowerFist/Chicago)
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:00:59 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
wrote:

On Jun 29, 7:07*pm, Chuck wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 29, 5:09 pm, "Lobby Dosser" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

newsoWdnSvZdOhHyrfRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink. com...

Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.
Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!
They must be feeling the pain.
Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago
is that extra long cord.
Good point. Some years back, I bought a spool of zip cord. I use it to add
about twenty feet to almost all my power tools, vacuum and shop cleaners,
etc.
Why didn't I think of that! (SMACKS FOREHEAD!!)

I DID think of that but took it one step further. I installed a
connector so if I didn't need all of the length, I could just
disconnect the added cord and still use the cord that came with the
tool straight into the receptacle. That longer cord is also usable
with other tools. Pretty clever, eh?

They call these "extension cords" I saw them at Home Depot.

Story of my life. I come up with a good idea and somebody beat me to
it. I even developed the idea out to the option of making different
lengths. Oh well.

Look out for the ricochet of sloped surfaces.

Mike M

"Swingman" wrote in message
...
On 6/28/2010 6:23 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago is
that extra long cord.

Ditto ... you could calf rope with that thing!


The only time I don't like that 16' cord is when I am trying to get it all
back in the box. '~)

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:23:22 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
wrote the following:

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!! There's
More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

I'd imagine so, when their product retails for 3x to 10x the price
others are selling them for.


Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago is that
extra long cord.

I use mine on jobsites so I'm always on a long (100') tail anyway.

--
The most powerful factors in the world are clear ideas
in the minds of energetic men of good will.
-- J. Arthur Thomson

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:42:37 -0500, Swingman wrote
the following:

On 6/28/2010 6:23 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago is
that extra long cord.

Ditto ... you could calf rope with that thing!

Aw, ****!@ Eggs and burrito all over the keyboard and monitor. You
owe me for that one, Swingy!
LOL

--
The most powerful factors in the world are clear ideas
in the minds of energetic men of good will.
-- J. Arthur Thomson

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:48:10 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
wrote the following:

On Jun 28, 7:42*pm, Swingman wrote:
On 6/28/2010 6:23 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago is
that extra long cord.

Ditto ... you could calf rope with that thing!

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

You mean there's a tool on the end of that cord somewhere?

A Festeringly-priced tool at that.

--
The most powerful factors in the world are clear ideas
in the minds of energetic men of good will.
-- J. Arthur Thomson

On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 19:07:31 -0400, Chuck wrote
the following:

Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 29, 5:09 pm, "Lobby Dosser" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

news




Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.
Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!
They must be feeling the pain.
Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago
is that extra long cord.
Good point. Some years back, I bought a spool of zip cord. I use it to add
about twenty feet to almost all my power tools, vacuum and shop cleaners,
etc.
Why didn't I think of that! (SMACKS FOREHEAD!!)

I DID think of that but took it one step further. I installed a
connector so if I didn't need all of the length, I could just
disconnect the added cord and still use the cord that came with the
tool straight into the receptacle. That longer cord is also usable
with other tools. Pretty clever, eh?
They call these "extension cords" I saw them at Home Depot.

I got the 100' 12ga orange jobby at eBay for $45, delivered. It's good
for anything up to and including the table saur.

--
The most powerful factors in the world are clear ideas
in the minds of energetic men of good will.
-- J. Arthur Thomson

On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:00:59 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
wrote the following:

On Jun 29, 7:07*pm, Chuck wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 29, 5:09 pm, "Lobby Dosser" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

newsoWdnSvZdOhHyrfRnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlink. com...

Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.
Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!
They must be feeling the pain.
Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago
is that extra long cord.
Good point. Some years back, I bought a spool of zip cord. I use it to add
about twenty feet to almost all my power tools, vacuum and shop cleaners,
etc.
Why didn't I think of that! (SMACKS FOREHEAD!!)

I DID think of that but took it one step further. I installed a
connector so if I didn't need all of the length, I could just
disconnect the added cord and still use the cord that came with the
tool straight into the receptacle. That longer cord is also usable
with other tools. Pretty clever, eh?

They call these "extension cords" I saw them at Home Depot.

Story of my life. I come up with a good idea and somebody beat me to
it. I even developed the idea out to the option of making different
lengths. Oh well.

Have you ever run a chop saw on a zip cord extension? I'll give it 7
seconds before you say:

"Saaaaaay, what's that molten plastic smell? It seems to be getting
stronger. Yikes, looky them sparks! Why is it so dark in here?

--
The most powerful factors in the world are clear ideas
in the minds of energetic men of good will.
-- J. Arthur Thomson

"Larry Jaques" wrote

Have you ever run a chop saw on a zip cord extension?

Or run over an extension cord with an electric lawn mower?

On Jul 1, 11:06*am, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote

Have you ever run a chop saw on a zip cord extension?

Or run over an extension cord with an electric lawn mower?

Who wants to know?

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On Jul 1, 11:06 am, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote

Have you ever run a chop saw on a zip cord extension?

Or run over an extension cord with an electric lawn mower?

Who wants to know?
------------

Or wants to remember?

"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
...

"Larry Jaques" wrote

Have you ever run a chop saw on a zip cord extension?

Or run over an extension cord with an electric lawn mower?


Or cut one in half with the hedge trimmer and spent 15 minutes trying to
figure out what was wrong ...

Robatoy wrote:

On Jun 29, 5:09 pm, "Lobby Dosser" wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message

news




Lobby Dosser wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool.

Got an e-mail ad from Woodcraft today. Fein set for $399. But Wait!!
There's More!! You also get Over $560 in Accessories!!

They must be feeling the pain.

Reason number 4 why I like the Fein I bought lo these many years ago
is that extra long cord.

Good point. Some years back, I bought a spool of zip cord. I use it to
add about twenty feet to almost all my power tools, vacuum and shop
cleaners, etc.

Why didn't I think of that! (SMACKS FOREHEAD!!)

I DID think of that but took it one step further. I installed a
connector so if I didn't need all of the length, I could just
disconnect the added cord and still use the cord that came with the
tool straight into the receptacle. That longer cord is also usable
with other tools. Pretty clever, eh?
So it was you that invented the Extension Cord. I thought maybe Al Gore had
something to do with it.
--
You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK !
Mandriva 2010 using KDE 4.3
Website: www.rentmyhusband.biz

On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:06:43 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
wrote the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote

Have you ever run a chop saw on a zip cord extension?

Or run over an extension cord with an electric lawn mower?

Does a skil saw count? Scary ****, Maynard.

--
The most powerful factors in the world are clear ideas
in the minds of energetic men of good will.
-- J. Arthur Thomson

On Jul 3, 12:11*am, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:06:43 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
wrote the following:



"Larry Jaques" wrote

Have you ever run a chop saw on a zip cord extension?

Or run over an extension cord with an electric lawn mower?

Does a skil saw count? *Scary ****, Maynard.

--
The most powerful factors in the world are clear ideas
in the minds of energetic men of good will.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- J. Arthur Thomson

I heard it is also possible to have the cord crawl up the ass end of a
belt sander. I don't know if that's true.

On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:11:44 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 11:06:43 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
wrote the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote

Have you ever run a chop saw on a zip cord extension?

Or run over an extension cord with an electric lawn mower?

Does a skil saw count? Scary ****, Maynard.

How about a router?

On Jul 2, 10:26*pm, Evodawg wrote:
Robatoy wrote:


I DID think of that but took it one step further. I installed a
connector so if I didn't need all of the length, I could just
disconnect the added cord and still use the cord that came with the
tool straight into the receptacle. That longer cord is also usable
with other tools. Pretty clever, eh?

So it was you that invented the Extension Cord.

Yes it was me. You didn't know that about me, eh? I also invented
floor mats for cars...and steering wheels.

Robatoy wrote:

When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool. That thing got me out of trouble so many times that I vowed
to immediately buy myself a new one after the sale of the company was
completed.

Then I remembered the many mentions of the HF version in here so I
went out to investigate. Turns out that there are many versions,
mostly in different clothes(colours and packaging). I broke down and
bought the Genesis version. Identical to the HF version.
For the price of a couple of Fein blades.

Works just as well as the Fein, with one exception. When I used to
really lean into the Fein, it barely complained. This Genesis slows
down and complains. Longevity is likely on the side of the Fein.
But for just over 40 bucks?
Nothing to talk about. Such a deal.

Had my HF for about 2 years and still running fein. It will bog down when
pushed on but it just works and hasn't failed me yet, to my surprise!

--
You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK !
Mandriva 2010 using KDE 4.3
Website: www.rentmyhusband.biz

On Jun 27, 12:57*pm, Robatoy wrote:
When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool. That thing got me out of trouble so many times that I vowed
to immediately buy myself a new one after the sale of the company was
completed.

Then I remembered the many mentions of the HF version in here so I
went out to investigate. Turns out that there are many versions,
mostly in different clothes(colours and packaging). I broke down and
bought the Genesis version. Identical to the HF version.
For the price of a couple of Fein blades.

Works just as well as the Fein, with one exception. When I used to
really lean into the Fein, it barely complained. This Genesis slows
down and complains. Longevity is likely on the side of the Fein.
But for just over 40 bucks?
Nothing to talk about. Such a deal.

I cut two layers of plywood into sections in order for me to remove a
subfloor. It ran a lot and I leaned on it pretty heavily. Worked like
a charm. I repeat: SUCH a deal!

On Jul 16, 10:01*pm, Robatoy wrote:
On Jun 27, 12:57*pm, Robatoy wrote:



When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool. That thing got me out of trouble so many times that I vowed
to immediately buy myself a new one after the sale of the company was
completed.

Then I remembered the many mentions of the HF version in here so I
went out to investigate. Turns out that there are many versions,
mostly in different clothes(colours and packaging). I broke down and
bought the Genesis version. Identical to the HF version.
For the price of a couple of Fein blades.

Works just as well as the Fein, with one exception. When I used to
really lean into the Fein, it barely complained. This Genesis slows
down and complains. Longevity is likely on the side of the Fein.
But for just over 40 bucks?
Nothing to talk about. Such a deal.

I cut two layers of plywood into sections in order for me to remove a
subfloor. It ran a lot and I leaned on it pretty heavily. Worked like
a charm. I repeat: SUCH a deal!

'Sections' makes it sound like a larger area. Why didn't you use the
TS55?

R

On Jul 16, 10:18*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Jul 16, 10:01*pm, Robatoy wrote:





On Jun 27, 12:57*pm, Robatoy wrote:

When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool. That thing got me out of trouble so many times that I vowed
to immediately buy myself a new one after the sale of the company was
completed.

Then I remembered the many mentions of the HF version in here so I
went out to investigate. Turns out that there are many versions,
mostly in different clothes(colours and packaging). I broke down and
bought the Genesis version. Identical to the HF version.
For the price of a couple of Fein blades.

Works just as well as the Fein, with one exception. When I used to
really lean into the Fein, it barely complained. This Genesis slows
down and complains. Longevity is likely on the side of the Fein.
But for just over 40 bucks?
Nothing to talk about. Such a deal.

I cut two layers of plywood into sections in order for me to remove a
subfloor. It ran a lot and I leaned on it pretty heavily. Worked like
a charm. I repeat: SUCH a deal!

'Sections' makes it sound like a larger area. *Why didn't you use the
TS55?

R

*shudder*

Works just as well as the Fein, with one exception. When I used to
really lean into the Fein, it barely complained. This Genesis slows
down and complains. Longevity is likely on the side of the Fein.
But for just over 40 bucks?
Nothing to talk about. Such a deal.

HF isn't my normal choice for tools but there have been exceptions. I
bought one of their cheap ($20) brad nailers as a backup for my 18ga
Porter Cable years ago. It has gotten a fair amount of use and is
hanging in there just fine. I own a couple of their air tools and no
complaints

A few years ago, in a weak moment, I bought one of their $99
mortisers. The hold down apparatus sucks but the chisels were quite
good and it cuts square holes and lines them up with some care.

Our son just bought one of the subject multi-tools and I am waiting
for his progress report. Or I might just buy one when I'm in Joplin
this weekend.

RonB

On Jul 16, 10:55*pm, Robatoy wrote:
On Jul 16, 10:18*pm, RicodJour wrote:



On Jul 16, 10:01*pm, Robatoy wrote:

On Jun 27, 12:57*pm, Robatoy wrote:

When I sold my company, one of the tools dear to me was the Fein
MultiTool. That thing got me out of trouble so many times that I vowed
to immediately buy myself a new one after the sale of the company was
completed.

Then I remembered the many mentions of the HF version in here so I
went out to investigate. Turns out that there are many versions,
mostly in different clothes(colours and packaging). I broke down and
bought the Genesis version. Identical to the HF version.
For the price of a couple of Fein blades.

Works just as well as the Fein, with one exception. When I used to
really lean into the Fein, it barely complained. This Genesis slows
down and complains. Longevity is likely on the side of the Fein.
But for just over 40 bucks?
Nothing to talk about. Such a deal.

I cut two layers of plywood into sections in order for me to remove a
subfloor. It ran a lot and I leaned on it pretty heavily. Worked like
a charm. I repeat: SUCH a deal!

'Sections' makes it sound like a larger area. *Why didn't you use the
TS55?

*shudder*

Oh come on, ya big baby. It's a tool - an expendable deduction, not
some Norman Rockwell collector plate ya hang on a wall!

No, I'm serious. Use a strong magnet to locate and avoid any
fasteners and use an old blade with a slow feed. Pin point depth
control, a track to smooth out the cut, and excellent dust
collection. What's not to like?

R

RonB wrote:



Works just as well as the Fein, with one exception. When I used to
really lean into the Fein, it barely complained. This Genesis slows
down and complains. Longevity is likely on the side of the Fein.
But for just over 40 bucks?
Nothing to talk about. Such a deal.

HF isn't my normal choice for tools but there have been exceptions. I
bought one of their cheap ($20) brad nailers as a backup for my 18ga
Porter Cable years ago. It has gotten a fair amount of use and is
hanging in there just fine. I own a couple of their air tools and no
complaints

A few years ago, in a weak moment, I bought one of their $99
mortisers. The hold down apparatus sucks but the chisels were quite
good and it cuts square holes and lines them up with some care.

Our son just bought one of the subject multi-tools and I am waiting
for his progress report. Or I might just buy one when I'm in Joplin
this weekend.

RonB
I've had mine for about a year and really abuse it and its still hanging in
there.