As many of you who also received the same e-mail from Woodhaven this morning, I went
to their new site:

www.woodhaven.com.

It would not work for me. The home page loaded just fine, but nothing else worked.
Like in none. If it matters, I am running a Macintosh and Netscape. Is it me or
Woodhaven's problem?

Hoyt W.

it's NOT Woodhaven's issue, Hoyt. (I didn't have any
problems with Netscape, viewing various pages at Woodhaven).

dave

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

As many of you who also received the same e-mail from Woodhaven this morning, I went
to their new site:

www.woodhaven.com.

It would not work for me. The home page loaded just fine, but nothing else worked.
Like in none. If it matters, I am running a Macintosh and Netscape. Is it me or
Woodhaven's problem?

Hoyt W.

oops! I changed the text and left in the smiley. My first
draft, I teased you about having a Mac.

dave

Bay Area Dave wrote:

it's NOT Woodhaven's issue, Hoyt. (I didn't have any problems with
Netscape, viewing various pages at Woodhaven).

dave

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

As many of you who also received the same e-mail from Woodhaven this
morning, I went
to their new site:

www.woodhaven.com.

It would not work for me. The home page loaded just fine, but nothing
else worked.
Like in none. If it matters, I am running a Macintosh and Netscape. Is
it me or
Woodhaven's problem?

Hoyt W.

Hoyt W asked....
t would not work for me. The home page loaded just fine, but nothing else
worked.
Like in none. If it matters, I am running a Macintosh and Netscape. Is it me
or
Woodhaven's problem?

At noon EDT, the site was working fine using Windows and IE
Mike
(The other)Mike G.

Bay Area Dave wrote:

oops! I changed the text and left in the smiley. My first
draft, I teased you about having a Mac.

dave

Bay Area Dave wrote:

it's NOT Woodhaven's issue, Hoyt. (I didn't have any problems with
Netscape, viewing various pages at Woodhaven).

dave

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

As many of you who also received the same e-mail from Woodhaven this
morning, I went
to their new site:

www.woodhaven.com.

It would not work for me. The home page loaded just fine, but nothing
else worked.
Like in none. If it matters, I am running a Macintosh and Netscape. Is
it me or
Woodhaven's problem?

Hoyt W.



Thanks for the smiley Dave. I wonder if other Wreckers are running Macs. I have been
running Macs since 1987 when I returned from Saudi Arabia. I would not have a PC on a
bet !

Hoyt W.

wassamatter, Hoyt, don't you want to line Billy's pockets?
How can he divvy out all those grants if we don't line up to
buy his crappy software?

dave

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

Bay Area Dave wrote:


oops! I changed the text and left in the smiley. My first
draft, I teased you about having a Mac.

dave

Bay Area Dave wrote:


it's NOT Woodhaven's issue, Hoyt. (I didn't have any problems with
Netscape, viewing various pages at Woodhaven).

dave

Hoyt Weathers wrote:


As many of you who also received the same e-mail from Woodhaven this
morning, I went
to their new site:

www.woodhaven.com.

It would not work for me. The home page loaded just fine, but nothing
else worked.
Like in none. If it matters, I am running a Macintosh and Netscape. Is
it me or
Woodhaven's problem?

Hoyt W.



Thanks for the smiley Dave. I wonder if other Wreckers are running Macs. I have been
running Macs since 1987 when I returned from Saudi Arabia. I would not have a PC on a
bet !

Hoyt W.

In article , Hoyt Weathers
wrote:

I wonder if other Wreckers are running Macs.

There are a few of us... ;-)

I have been running Macs since 1987 when I returned from Saudi Arabia. I would not have a PC on a bet !

I just finished rearranging the basement office to get a Win XP box set
up. First one I've owned since I started out with the VIC-20 many moons
ago.

I'd rather not, but the school board here is all wintel and daughter
heads to high school next year. It's still outnumbered by the three
Macs, though.

djb

--
Okay, so this is my new sig line, eh?

In article , Hoyt Weathers
wrote:

www.woodhaven.com

BTW, it loads here (Mac OS X 10.3.3, Safari browser).

What Mac OS, and what version of Netscrape are you running?

djb

--
Okay, so this is my new sig line, eh?

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

I have been running Macs since 1987 when I returned from Saudi
Arabia.

Hoyt...

I'm curious... Where in Saudi Arabia were you and how long were
you there? I lived in Dhahran and Abqaiq (Al Hasa Province) from
'51 thru '61.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 12:26:01 -0600, Dave Balderstone
wrote:

In article , Hoyt Weathers
wrote:

I wonder if other Wreckers are running Macs.

There are a few of us... ;-)

I have been running Macs since 1987 when I returned from Saudi Arabia. I would not have a PC on a bet !

I just finished rearranging the basement office to get a Win XP box set
up. First one I've owned since I started out with the VIC-20 many moons
ago.


you had a vic-20 running Win XP? impressive...

G



I'd rather not, but the school board here is all wintel and daughter
heads to high school next year. It's still outnumbered by the three
Macs, though.

djb

Bay Area Dave wrote:

snip, snip

wassamatter, Hoyt, don't you want to line Billy's pockets?
How can he divvy out all those grants if we don't line up to
buy his crappy software?

dave

You lost me there Dave. Were you looking at the same URL I was? BTW, who is Billy? Are you
referring to W. Gates? Play nice now.
Perhaps I am having problems since I am using DirecWay satellite Internet. I doubt that is
the trouble however since I have never had this problem before.
Hoyt W.

Dave Balderstone wrote:

In article , Hoyt Weathers
wrote:

www.woodhaven.com

BTW, it loads here (Mac OS X 10.3.3, Safari browser).

What Mac OS, and what version of Netscrape are you running?

djb

--
Okay, so this is my new sig line, eh?

Dave, I am running Mac OS 9.2.2 and Netscape 4.79 on a G4 dual 450 with 1 Gig of RAM.

HMW

yes, I was referring to Gates. SOMEBODY has to buy his
stuff so he can give away some money. IF you buy Apple,
where's your hard earned money ultimately going?

I thought about the satellite but at about $70 a month it's
too rich for my blood. plus the up front costs...

dave

dave

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

Bay Area Dave wrote:

snip, snip

wassamatter, Hoyt, don't you want to line Billy's pockets?
How can he divvy out all those grants if we don't line up to
buy his crappy software?

dave


You lost me there Dave. Were you looking at the same URL I was? BTW, who is Billy? Are you
referring to W. Gates? Play nice now.
Perhaps I am having problems since I am using DirecWay satellite Internet. I doubt that is
the trouble however since I have never had this problem before.
Hoyt W.

Morris Dovey wrote:

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

I have been running Macs since 1987 when I returned from Saudi
Arabia.

Hoyt...

I'm curious... Where in Saudi Arabia were you and how long were
you there? I lived in Dhahran and Abqaiq (Al Hasa Province) from
'51 thru '61.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Hi Morris,

I was at Dhahran for 3 years as a Senior Research Engineer in the Research Institute
associated with the University of Petroleum and Minerals. I went there when I retired
from NASA in early 1984 and returned for good in July of 1987. We shared a common
fence with Saudi Aramco. I bet you were with the former ARAMCO and not Saudi Aramco.
I went through Abqaiq many times when driving to Hofuff. I really miss the camel
souqs and gold souqs in Hofuff.

O.T. comment: I have always admired your postings here.

Hoyt W.
Trinity, Alabama USA

In article ,
wrote:

you had a vic-20 running Win XP? impressive...

Porting to the TRaSh-80 was a bitch, though.

--
Okay, so this is my new sig line, eh?

In article , Hoyt Weathers
wrote:

Netscape 4.79

There ya go.

;-)

--
Okay, so this is my new sig line, eh?

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

I was at Dhahran for 3 years as a Senior Research Engineer in
the Research Institute associated with the University of
Petroleum and Minerals. I went there when I retired from NASA
in early 1984 and returned for good in July of 1987. We shared
a common fence with Saudi Aramco. I bet you were with the
former ARAMCO and not Saudi Aramco. I went through Abqaiq many
times when driving to Hofuff. I really miss the camel souqs
and gold souqs in Hofuff.

Interesting. There wasn't a university, or even high school, of
any kind while I was there (I commuted to high school in northern
Indiana in the fall; and returned in the spring).

As a kid, I enjoyed it all. ARAMCO (and the Saudis!) provided a
good environment for families with kids and there was abundant
opportunity to travel and learn about the rest of the world. I
wouldn't trade the experience for anything.

I hope your memories are as good.

O.T. comment: I have always admired your postings here.

Thanks - don't be tempted to take any of 'em too seriously! (-:

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

In article , mdg0911
@aol.comxxx says...
Hoyt W asked....
t would not work for me. The home page loaded just fine, but nothing else
worked.
Like in none. If it matters, I am running a Macintosh and Netscape. Is it me
or
Woodhaven's problem?

At noon EDT, the site was working fine using Windows and IE
Mike
(The other)Mike G.


Works for Internet explorer, works only marginally for Mozilla -- to
even get to marginal you have to allow pop-ups from that site (there are
no annoying pop-ups, but apparently some elements on the page are pop-
ups. However, the tabs (for your ... , etc) across the top of the page
don't work with Mozilla no matter what.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:54:32 -0600, Dave Balderstone
brought forth from the murky
depths:

In article , Hoyt Weathers
wrote:

Netscape 4.79

There ya go.

;-)

That's it, alright. Brand new 1927 technology!
Hoyt, upgrade to Nutscrape 7.0. It's stable and works well.
Mozilla was unstable so I reverted to NN7 and use it along
with MSIE6.


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If God approved of nudity, we all would have been born naked.
----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
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Do you remember the exact quote on the big sign over the road entering the
ARAMCO village at Dhahran. . .the one about a switch engine crossing the
multi-track crossing there and the consequences of your proximity ! g

--
SwampBug
- - - - - - - - - - - -


"Morris Dovey" wrote in message
...
Hoyt Weathers wrote:

I was at Dhahran for 3 years as a Senior Research Engineer in
the Research Institute associated with the University of
Petroleum and Minerals. I went there when I retired from NASA
in early 1984 and returned for good in July of 1987. We shared
a common fence with Saudi Aramco. I bet you were with the
former ARAMCO and not Saudi Aramco. I went through Abqaiq many
times when driving to Hofuff. I really miss the camel souqs
and gold souqs in Hofuff.

Interesting. There wasn't a university, or even high school, of any kind
while I was there (I commuted to high school in northern Indiana in the
fall; and returned in the spring).

As a kid, I enjoyed it all. ARAMCO (and the Saudis!) provided a good
environment for families with kids and there was abundant opportunity to
travel and learn about the rest of the world. I wouldn't trade the
experience for anything.

I hope your memories are as good.

O.T. comment: I have always admired your postings here.

Thanks - don't be tempted to take any of 'em too seriously! (-:

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:05:46 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

upgrade to Nutscrape 7.0. It's stable and works well.
Mozilla was unstable so I reverted to NN7 and use it along
with MSIE6.

tried mozilla lately? I've been running it with no problems on my
windows box with no problems...

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:54:00 -0600, Dave Balderstone
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

you had a vic-20 running Win XP? impressive...

Porting to the TRaSh-80 was a bitch, though.


with a boot time measured in *years*....

SwampBug wrote:

Do you remember the exact quote on the big sign over the road
entering the ARAMCO village at Dhahran. . .the one about a
switch engine crossing the multi-track crossing there and the
consequences of your proximity ! g

Had to have been after my time. When I was there Dhahran, Abqaiq,
and Ras Tanura were all wholly ARAMCO. Al Khobar was the closet
non-ARAMCO village; Hofuf was the next closest. The only sign I
can remember at the gate was the 'Numbers of days since last lost
time accident ____'

I only lived in Dhahran for my first six months in SA. It was
still being called a "camp". After moving to Abqaiq, I visited
Dhahran only to warm (cool?) the bench for school football games
or to pass through on my way to either Al Khobar or the hobby
farm (about halfway between Dhahran and Al Khobar). When I
arrived in Abqaiq only some of the streets were paved. As I
recall, Abqaiq had about eleven or twelve hundred inhabitants
then (made for really small classes in school).

I do remember that the safety crew had signs every place you
could imagine and at least a few (places and signs) that might
cause giggles. Really witty stuff: "Be alert, don't get hurt!"
and "Don't sleep under this truck!". It's difficult to imagine
what they might have composed in honor of a switch engine g

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:54:38 -0500, Hoyt Weathers wrote:

snip

Perhaps I am having problems since I am using DirecWay satellite Internet. I doubt that is
the trouble however since I have never had this problem before.
Hoyt W.

Hoyt,

It's been a while since I did any web development, but I notice that the site apparently uses a lot of scripting or dynamic html (?)
so it may be that there is a conflict with your browser security settings or configuration. Like I said, it's been a while since I
messed with any of that stuff, so I could easily be all wet but it might be worth some experimentation.


Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:10:23 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote:

snip

I thought about the satellite but at about $70 a month it's
too rich for my blood. plus the up front costs...

dave

Hear, Hear! I'm stuck out here in the boonies where you can't even get cable, but I'll suffer with the 26.4 (28.8 on a very good
day) dialup before I pay that much. Yeah, I know about the 56k modems. I have one and my ISP supports them. If the telco ever
upgrades from the string and tin can maybe I will see 56k downloads. (I said I was out in the boonies!)


Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA

In article ,
says...
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:54:38 -0500, Hoyt Weathers wrote:

snip

Perhaps I am having problems since I am using DirecWay satellite Internet. I doubt that is
the trouble however since I have never had this problem before.
Hoyt W.


Hoyt, I missed your posting of the above information. I am also using
DirecWay. The only way I could make the site work was to use Internet
Explorer. I think, as Tom indicates, more tied to the browser than the
ISP.

Hoyt,

It's been a while since I did any web development, but I notice that the site apparently uses a lot of scripting or dynamic html (?)
so it may be that there is a conflict with your browser security settings or configuration. Like I said, it's been a while since I
messed with any of that stuff, so I could easily be all wet but it might be worth some experimentation.


Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA

Tom, look on the bright side. You've got some killer BBQ
places there!

dave

Tom Veatch wrote:

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:10:23 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote:

snip

I thought about the satellite but at about $70 a month it's
too rich for my blood. plus the up front costs...

dave


Hear, Hear! I'm stuck out here in the boonies where you can't even get cable, but I'll suffer with the 26.4 (28.8 on a very good
day) dialup before I pay that much. Yeah, I know about the 56k modems. I have one and my ISP supports them. If the telco ever
upgrades from the string and tin can maybe I will see 56k downloads. (I said I was out in the boonies!)


Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA

Morris Dovey wrote:

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

I was at Dhahran for 3 years as a Senior Research Engineer in
the Research Institute associated with the University of
Petroleum and Minerals. I went there when I retired from NASA
in early 1984 and returned for good in July of 1987. We shared
a common fence with Saudi Aramco. I bet you were with the
former ARAMCO and not Saudi Aramco. I went through Abqaiq many
times when driving to Hofuff. I really miss the camel souqs
and gold souqs in Hofuff.

Interesting. There wasn't a university, or even high school, of
any kind while I was there (I commuted to high school in northern
Indiana in the fall; and returned in the spring).

As a kid, I enjoyed it all. ARAMCO (and the Saudis!) provided a
good environment for families with kids and there was abundant
opportunity to travel and learn about the rest of the world. I
wouldn't trade the experience for anything.

I hope your memories are as good.

O.T. comment: I have always admired your postings here.

Thanks - don't be tempted to take any of 'em too seriously! (-:

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Hi Morris,

While my wife and I were there, schoolers male or female could go through the 8th
grade. Then they had to go out of country for their education - expenses paid for by
the Saudis. They could not return during the summer months, meaning the months they
were out of school. They knew as well as we did that sap rises about that age. My
wife, now deceased, taught at the Academy as part of the U.S. Consulate.

I very much agree with your statement that the Saudis provided a good environment for
families. My wife had beautiful gray hair and always had it covered with a very open
black net whenever we went into Al Khobar or any other place off campus. We had many
good Saudi friends. They respected my wife partly because she was a teacher and had
gray hair - indicating age. She has been gone four years now.

It was a wonderful experience living and working in S.A. . There is another world out
there and most of them are very good people - regardless of religion.

Hoyt W.

SwampBug wrote:

Do you remember the exact quote on the big sign over the road entering the
ARAMCO village at Dhahran. . .the one about a switch engine crossing the
multi-track crossing there and the consequences of your proximity ! g

--
SwampBug

snip

Sorry, I never noticed such a sign. Was it in Arabic? I read very little Arabic.

Hoyt W.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:32:01 -0700,
brought forth from the murky
depths:

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 16:05:46 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

upgrade to Nutscrape 7.0. It's stable and works well.
Mozilla was unstable so I reverted to NN7 and use it along
with MSIE6.

tried mozilla lately? I've been running it with no problems on my
windows box with no problems...

How about "Mozilla was unstable within the last year."?


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
If God approved of nudity, we all would have been born naked.
----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
http://www.diversify.com Your Wild & Woody Website Wonk

In article ,
says...
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:44:40 GMT, Mark & Juanita
wrote:


Works for Internet explorer, works only marginally for Mozilla -- to
even get to marginal you have to allow pop-ups from that site (there are
no annoying pop-ups, but apparently some elements on the page are pop-
ups. However, the tabs (for your ... , etc) across the top of the page
don't work with Mozilla no matter what.


I'm using Firefox and I found that the tabs across the top work if I
allow cookies. No cookies, no tabs.



I'm allowing cookies in Mozilla.

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 22:44:40 GMT, Mark & Juanita
wrote:


Works for Internet explorer, works only marginally for Mozilla -- to
even get to marginal you have to allow pop-ups from that site (there are
no annoying pop-ups, but apparently some elements on the page are pop-
ups. However, the tabs (for your ... , etc) across the top of the page
don't work with Mozilla no matter what.


I'm using Firefox and I found that the tabs across the top work if I
allow cookies. No cookies, no tabs.

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

While my wife and I were there, schoolers male or female could
go through the 8th grade. Then they had to go out of country
for their education - expenses paid for by the Saudis. They
could not return during the summer months, meaning the months
they were out of school. They knew as well as we did that sap
rises about that age. My wife, now deceased, taught at the
Academy as part of the U.S. Consulate.

What interesting experiences she must have had! I would expect
that there must have been both unique challenges and opportunity
for major sense of accomplishment.

When I lived in Minnesota I filled in for a high school math
teacher who'd had a serious snowmobile accident. I had all of the
math classes and all of the students for about two months. It was
one of the most exhilerating and satisfying experiences of my
life to see "the lights come on" on all those kids faces all over
the room all at the same time. There's nothing else like it. I
don't doubt that your wife enjoyed those same kinds of
experiences - and what an enviable context in which to teach!

I have mixed feelings about pushing kids out of the nest after
eighth grade - it's an age when major changes are taking place
and (IMO) familial guidance is really important to complete and
healthy development of the individual. Many of my ARAMCO
classmates seem to feel the same way.

I very much agree with your statement that the Saudis provided
a good environment for families. My wife had beautiful gray
hair and always had it covered with a very open black net
whenever we went into Al Khobar or any other place off campus.
We had many good Saudi friends. They respected my wife partly
because she was a teacher and had gray hair - indicating age.

Yes. It's interesting that you took notice of that. My experience
was that the cultural norm included a strong sense of respect for
the individual. Even though I was "just a kid" I felt that I was
accorded more "worthwhile and complete human being" status by the
typical Saudi than by typical westerners. It wasn't a /huge/
difference; but it was enough to be noticable to a kid trying
hard to become an adult.

She has been gone four years now.

It's tough going on alone. Woodworking can be a considerable
comfort by providing an outlet for the love that we'd really
prefer to be expressing directly.

It was a wonderful experience living and working in S.A. .
There is another world out there and most of them are very
good people - regardless of religion.

For me, too. I never forgot an old bedouin telling me that "/All/
men are brothers under the skin." I think that perhaps it isn't
really "another world" - it's the same world seen from a
different place and a different perspective. I'm led to believe
that nearly everyone tries to be the best person they know how to
be - and the Saudis seemed no exception.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

For you and Morris. . .the sign was there, IIRC, the whole time I was there
, 60-61. 13 months with the USAF. I spent a some time at 'occasions in
Aramco with a mix of some sort of soda and some 'Industrial' strength
equivalent to "Everclear"!Definitely some stuff to tread lightly upon!!!.
The sign said something like "A Switch Engine can cross this crossing the
(x) seconds, whether you are in it or not!" I was trying to remember the
exact words and more specifically, the exact number of seconds quoted.

--
SwampBug
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"Hoyt Weathers" wrote in message
...
SwampBug wrote:

Do you remember the exact quote on the big sign over the road entering
the
ARAMCO village at Dhahran. . .the one about a switch engine crossing the
multi-track crossing there and the consequences of your proximity ! g

--
SwampBug

snip

Sorry, I never noticed such a sign. Was it in Arabic? I read very little
Arabic.

Hoyt W.

SwampBug wrote:

For you and Morris. . .the sign was there, IIRC, the whole time I was there
, 60-61. 13 months with the USAF. I spent a some time at 'occasions in
Aramco with a mix of some sort of soda and some 'Industrial' strength
equivalent to "Everclear"!Definitely some stuff to tread lightly upon!!!.
The sign said something like "A Switch Engine can cross this crossing the
(x) seconds, whether you are in it or not!" I was trying to remember the
exact words and more specifically, the exact number of seconds quoted.

--
SwampBug
- - - - - - - - - - - -

"Hoyt Weathers" wrote in message
...
SwampBug wrote:

Do you remember the exact quote on the big sign over the road entering
the
ARAMCO village at Dhahran. . .the one about a switch engine crossing the
multi-track crossing there and the consequences of your proximity ! g

--
SwampBug

snip

Sorry, I never noticed such a sign. Was it in Arabic? I read very little
Arabic.

Hoyt W.


Thanks SwampBug for the details. IIRC. the forbidden liquid was called Sadiqi [sah
dee key] . A Pakistani friend said that meant " My friend" in his language and
perhaps in Arabic as well. Right out of the still, it made a mean Margarita. Curl
your hair it would. When I arrived in The Magic Kingdom in 1984, there were wars
going on between the big distillers and the small distillers at ARAMCO. My Brit
friend on our compound had an "in" with one or more of the Brit distillers in ARAMCO
and he kept me supplied. I kept mine in a gallon sized vinegar jug in a cabinet
beside the kitchen sink. My apartment was never inspected by the Saudi authorities
and I never heard of them searching any abode on the university compound.
Hoyt W.

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

The forbidden liquid was called Sadiqi [sah dee key]. A
Pakistani friend said that meant " My friend" in his language
and perhaps in Arabic as well.

Good call. Sadiq means "friend". In Arabic you make a thing yours
by appending 'i' - so sadiqi is "my friend".

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Some of that juice went for as much a $100 a pint on base!
Dang stuff burns with an invisible flame.

But I really was interested in the railroad crossing sign. . .s I will
have to dig out all my old pics and see if I might not have gotten a shot of
it. Seems like somthing I would do! g
Might even do a Google search.
--
SwampBug
- - - - - - - - - - - -


"Hoyt Weathers" wrote in message
...
SwampBug wrote:

For you and Morris. . .the sign was there, IIRC, the whole time I was
there
, 60-61. 13 months with the USAF. I spent a some time at 'occasions in
Aramco with a mix of some sort of soda and some 'Industrial' strength
equivalent to "Everclear"!Definitely some stuff to tread lightly upon!!!.
The sign said something like "A Switch Engine can cross this crossing the
(x) seconds, whether you are in it or not!" I was trying to remember the
exact words and more specifically, the exact number of seconds quoted.

--
SwampBug
- - - - - - - - - - - -

"Hoyt Weathers" wrote in message
...
SwampBug wrote:

Do you remember the exact quote on the big sign over the road entering
the
ARAMCO village at Dhahran. . .the one about a switch engine crossing
the
multi-track crossing there and the consequences of your proximity !
g

--
SwampBug

snip

Sorry, I never noticed such a sign. Was it in Arabic? I read very
little
Arabic.

Hoyt W.


Thanks SwampBug for the details. IIRC. the forbidden liquid was called
Sadiqi [sah
dee key] . A Pakistani friend said that meant " My friend" in his language
and
perhaps in Arabic as well. Right out of the still, it made a mean
Margarita. Curl
your hair it would. When I arrived in The Magic Kingdom in 1984, there
were wars
going on between the big distillers and the small distillers at ARAMCO. My
Brit
friend on our compound had an "in" with one or more of the Brit distillers
in ARAMCO
and he kept me supplied. I kept mine in a gallon sized vinegar jug in a
cabinet
beside the kitchen sink. My apartment was never inspected by the Saudi
authorities
and I never heard of them searching any abode on the university compound.
Hoyt W.

Morris Dovey wrote:

Hoyt Weathers wrote:

The forbidden liquid was called Sadiqi [sah dee key]. A
Pakistani friend said that meant " My friend" in his language
and perhaps in Arabic as well.

Good call. Sadiq means "friend". In Arabic you make a thing yours
by appending 'i' - so sadiqi is "my friend".

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Morris, it is just amazing what O.T. info one can obtain on a wood working site.
Your explanation was something I did not know. Thanks.

Hoyt Weathers

Hoyt Weathers wrote:
As many of you who also received the same e-mail from Woodhaven this morning, I went
to their new site:

www.woodhaven.com.

It would not work for me. The home page loaded just fine, but nothing else worked.
Like in none. If it matters, I am running a Macintosh and Netscape. Is it me or
Woodhaven's problem?

Hoyt W.


Hoyt

Go here and grab the 1.3.1 Mozilla build. Works better than standard
Mozilla's on my Beige G3/MacOS9.2.2

TCJ

Tim Jordan wrote:

Hoyt Weathers wrote:
As many of you who also received the same e-mail from Woodhaven this morning, I went
to their new site:

www.woodhaven.com.

It would not work for me. The home page loaded just fine, but nothing else worked.
Like in none. If it matters, I am running a Macintosh and Netscape. Is it me or
Woodhaven's problem?

Hoyt W.


Hoyt

Go here and grab the 1.3.1 Mozilla build. Works better than standard
Mozilla's on my Beige G3/MacOS9.2.2

TCJ

Tim, you did not include the URL to click on for the 1.3.1 Mozilla build. Would you
please zap me one at my address above and include the URL? An option would be to just
reply here. Same Oh Same Oh.
Hoyt W.