I think this exact comparison was just made last Friday
the 26th on this forum. It's a long thread with plenty
of opinions and experiences to help you out.

Bruce
Redding, Ca.

"tillius" wrote in message
om...
I need to replace my crapsman benchtop TS and I finally convinced
SWMBO to let me spend $3-400 on a new TS. Obviously, I can't get a
good contractors saw for that price, and after looking around, I've
narrowed the field to the Delta TS300 or the Ryobi BTS3100.

Has anyone a good pro/con arguments one way or the other on these
two
saws?

I don't want to make a decision I'll regret.

Thanks

I need to replace my crapsman benchtop TS and I finally convinced
SWMBO to let me spend $3-400 on a new TS. Obviously, I can't get a
good contractors saw for that price, and after looking around, I've
narrowed the field to the Delta TS300 or the Ryobi BTS3100.

Has anyone a good pro/con arguments one way or the other on these two
saws?

I don't want to make a decision I'll regret.

Thanks

Can't speak for the Delta but I bought the Ryobi and am quite pleased
with it so far. No regrets at all. Being that I've a very small shop I
bought some wheels from Harbor Freight and attached them to 2 strips of
oak pallet under the legs for mobility. Works great! And it beats the
$99 price of the add-on kit they sell.

tillius wrote:
I need to replace my crapsman benchtop TS and I finally convinced
SWMBO to let me spend $3-400 on a new TS. Obviously, I can't get a
good contractors saw for that price, and after looking around, I've
narrowed the field to the Delta TS300 or the Ryobi BTS3100.

Has anyone a good pro/con arguments one way or the other on these two
saws?

I don't want to make a decision I'll regret.

Thanks

Hi, I have the Delta 36-600, which is the same saw as the TS300, not much of
a saw. Had lots of trouble with the motor and the brushes, it's toast now.
Buying the Grizz 1023s. Grizzly has some belt drive contractor saws that's
not much more expensive, please check them out.

Tony
tillius wrote in message
om...
I need to replace my crapsman benchtop TS and I finally convinced
SWMBO to let me spend $3-400 on a new TS. Obviously, I can't get a
good contractors saw for that price, and after looking around, I've
narrowed the field to the Delta TS300 or the Ryobi BTS3100.

Has anyone a good pro/con arguments one way or the other on these two
saws?

I don't want to make a decision I'll regret.

Thanks

I agree. I have the 36-600 and get mad every time I use it. I also will be
going with the Grizzly. The table on my Delta is out of flat by a ton. I
never knew what to check for before buying it. Having said that, it was a
300 dollar saw, but I thought I would have had a bit better quality.
Basically I bought it on the Delta name after having good luck with their
other products.

Paul

"Tony" wrote in message
...
Hi, I have the Delta 36-600, which is the same saw as the TS300, not much
of
a saw. Had lots of trouble with the motor and the brushes, it's toast
now.
Buying the Grizz 1023s. Grizzly has some belt drive contractor saws
that's
not much more expensive, please check them out.

Tony
tillius wrote in message
om...
I need to replace my crapsman benchtop TS and I finally convinced
SWMBO to let me spend $3-400 on a new TS. Obviously, I can't get a
good contractors saw for that price, and after looking around, I've
narrowed the field to the Delta TS300 or the Ryobi BTS3100.

Has anyone a good pro/con arguments one way or the other on these two
saws?

I don't want to make a decision I'll regret.

Thanks

My dad bought a BT3100. I tried to talk him into a contractor's saw but he
didn't want to spend the money. 8 months later and he wants to sell the
BT3100.

I am sure he will sell it for $100.00 if you want to pay shipping.

He is going to buy a contractor's saw.

The problem is that it won't stay square and parts keep breaking on it.

I still think it is the best you can buy for $300 but to get a good saw, you
have to spend more.

Rob


"Bruce" wrote in message
...
I think this exact comparison was just made last Friday
the 26th on this forum. It's a long thread with plenty
of opinions and experiences to help you out.

Bruce
Redding, Ca.

"tillius" wrote in message
om...
I need to replace my crapsman benchtop TS and I finally convinced
SWMBO to let me spend $3-400 on a new TS. Obviously, I can't get a
good contractors saw for that price, and after looking around, I've
narrowed the field to the Delta TS300 or the Ryobi BTS3100.

Has anyone a good pro/con arguments one way or the other on these
two
saws?

I don't want to make a decision I'll regret.

Thanks

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:58:24 -0600, Rob wrote:
My dad bought a BT3100. I tried to talk him into a contractor's saw but he
didn't want to spend the money. 8 months later and he wants to sell the
BT3100.

I am sure he will sell it for $100.00 if you want to pay shipping.

Heck, if you are going to sell it, part it out on e-Bay, or on one of
the bt3x00 sites. Probably get what you paid for out of it, at least,
if you are patient.


He is going to buy a contractor's saw.

The problem is that it won't stay square and parts keep breaking on it.


Dunno if you or your dad have tried, but there is an *extremely* active
support group on the forums at www.bt3central.com. Not saying the saws
are perfect, but a lot of the time most problems short of plain old
defective pieces (that's Ryobi's problem) can be worked out just by
talking w/ the guys that have been using the bt3100 and bt3000 for
a number of years.

HTH,

nuk

--
I know more than enough *nix to do some very destructive things,
and not nearly enough to do very many useful things.

"Rob" wrote in message
...
My dad bought a BT3100. I tried to talk him into a contractor's saw but
he
didn't want to spend the money. 8 months later and he wants to sell the
BT3100.

Smash some pieces off it......write a terrible description, that it keeps
blowing up, won't cut square & put it on eBay, he's sure to double his
money!

:-)


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Delta TS300 or the Ryobi BTS3100.

Has anyone a good pro/con arguments one way or the other on these two
saws?


I also have the Delta 36-600 and I have not experienced the problems
of the others. In fact is a decent saw. I can't speak for the Ryobi
but I've seen it in the store and can point out that the Delta's table
top (not the extension wings) is cast steel vs. aluminum. It also
have a standard miter slot. Haven't had any issues with uneven tops
or problems with the fence, in fact its quite accurate. I put a good
Freud blade on it and have cut pt pine, pine, cedar, maple, walnut,
and oak in 1" - 3"+ (it only has a 3" cut capacity). No problems.

The spitter/gaurd on this thing sucks and is a definite problem. It
does not mount through the insert, just out the back of the saw and is
more of a hazard if used.


Hope that helps.

Chuck

till -
In a way, it depends on YOUR shop, and what you intend to do.

I bought the Ryobi SPECIFICALLY because the top & critical alignment parts
were of non-rusting material. The tablesaw is most likely the most used
piece of power equipment in the typical shop. Also it is most likely use on
an 'on and off' basis, rather than run for hours at a time without being
shut off. That is, mill a part - or set of parts. Turn it off and fit the
part. Or reset the machine for another part{s}, etc.

Keep it clean, use proper regular maintenance, don't use it as a 'coffee
stand' or throw it in the back of a truck, and there should be minimal
problems.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{PS - first boat was built with an 8-inch, 'made out of tin', POS, Black &
Decker 'benchtop'}

"tillius" wrote in message
om...
I need to replace my crapsman benchtop TS and I finally convinced
SWMBO to let me spend $3-400 on a new TS. Obviously, I can't get a
good contractors saw for that price, and after looking around, I've
narrowed the field to the Delta TS300 or the Ryobi BTS3100.

SNIP

I've made 3 boats and a 36 position document sorting cabinet and
numerous shop shelfs tables and jigs with my crapsman 10" bench top.
It worked but it was a MAJOR pain getting square repeatable cuts.
Since SWMBO gave me the budget (originally $3-400 but upped to $6-700
for a new saw, I was looking at what I was going to get. THEN I found
the Delta 36-444 and the 12" bandsaw (crapsman) together for $300 -
couldn't pass it up - love the new saw AND I've got $3-400 left over).

Found a Delta 2 spd 13" planer and Delta 6" joiner for $375 together,
so I'm going to go over a look at them this afternoon (I've got enough
left in the budget - whoohoo)

Tillman

"Ron Magen" wrote in message ...
till -
In a way, it depends on YOUR shop, and what you intend to do.

I bought the Ryobi SPECIFICALLY because the top & critical alignment parts
were of non-rusting material. The tablesaw is most likely the most used
piece of power equipment in the typical shop. Also it is most likely use on
an 'on and off' basis, rather than run for hours at a time without being
shut off. That is, mill a part - or set of parts. Turn it off and fit the
part. Or reset the machine for another part{s}, etc.

Keep it clean, use proper regular maintenance, don't use it as a 'coffee
stand' or throw it in the back of a truck, and there should be minimal
problems.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{PS - first boat was built with an 8-inch, 'made out of tin', POS, Black &
Decker 'benchtop'}

"tillius" wrote in message
om...
I need to replace my crapsman benchtop TS and I finally convinced
SWMBO to let me spend $3-400 on a new TS. Obviously, I can't get a
good contractors saw for that price, and after looking around, I've
narrowed the field to the Delta TS300 or the Ryobi BTS3100.

SNIP