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Riser blocks or not?
I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14” models like
the Grizzly’s, Jet’s & Deltas with riser blocks mainly because I need to cut some back splats for dining chairs that are 8” wide – so they will effectively be resawed in order to get the correct curve. Anyway, I have also looked at saws like the Jet 14DXPRO which is a 14” with 12” or so resaw and no riser blocks. I’ve read this & that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now. Thoughts? Cheers |
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On Feb 2, 3:40*pm, " wrote:
I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14” models like the Grizzly’s, Jet’s & Deltas with riser blocks mainly because I need to cut some back splats for dining chairs that are 8” wide – so they will effectively be resawed in order to get the correct curve. Anyway, I have also looked at saws like the Jet 14DXPRO which is a 14” with 12” or so resaw and no riser blocks. I’ve read this & that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now. Thoughts? Cheers The riser block in my old 14" Delta/Milwaukee is a pretty substantial chunk of cast iron. I can't imagine it flexing any. If there is any flex, it would be in the arm itself. I don't believe that raising the arm by 6" with a riser block would cause the arm to flex any more. I've cut everything up to 2" or thicker steel plate with that saw, and flex has never been a problem. And you do dial in a lot of tension when cutting that sort of thing. Buy the riser block and be done with it. Don't even think of the option of swapping it in only when you need the extra height. John Martin |
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On Feb 2, 11:40*am, " wrote:
I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14” models like I have the Jet 14" with a riser block, some roller guides, and some great WoodSlicer blades from Highland Hardware. The saw will take anything I throw at it without any flex that I am aware of. Having said that I spent a fair amount of time tuning the settings. Get yourself some books too: Duginske, Engler, and Bird have some good tips. Best of luck! |
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Riser blocks or not?
On 2/2/2010 2:40 PM, wrote:
I’ve read this& that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now. I have a Delta 14" with riser blocks. Wouldn't have it any other way. Got for it. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/22/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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"Swingman" wrote in message news On 2/2/2010 2:40 PM, wrote: I’ve read this& that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now. I have a Delta 14" with riser blocks. Wouldn't have it any other way. Got for it. That's great if you need them. I looked the price up today--$149.99 (list $199), then you need 105" blades--harder to find, I think than their standard 93.5". I'm not sure how much sense it makes for a .5-.75 hp saw--but I'm no expert either. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/22/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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then you need 105" blades--harder to find, I think than their standard 93.5". [...snip...] Hmm, if you are willing to mail order you can get just about any size blade. Also they can be made to order for a reasonable price. Also, 105" is a pretty commonly available size, albeit maybe not found in local hardware stores. |
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"Jim Weisgram" wrote in message ... [...snip...] then you need 105" blades--harder to find, I think than their standard 93.5". [...snip...] Hmm, if you are willing to mail order you can get just about any size blade. Also they can be made to order for a reasonable price. Also, 105" is a pretty commonly available size, albeit maybe not found in local hardware stores. Yes, my statement was based on my trip to Lowes today-- 93.5" blades yes, 105" blades no. This thread made me consider the riser block, but I didn't buy my band saw for any reasons which will require extra height..the $149 price of the riser block cinched it for me. I have other tools I'd rather throw money at now! ; ) Bill |
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"Bill" wrote in message ... "Jim Weisgram" wrote in message ... [...snip...] then you need 105" blades--harder to find, I think than their standard 93.5". [...snip...] Hmm, if you are willing to mail order you can get just about any size blade. Also they can be made to order for a reasonable price. Also, 105" is a pretty commonly available size, albeit maybe not found in local hardware stores. Yes, my statement was based on my trip to Lowes today-- 93.5" blades yes, 105" blades no. This thread made me consider the riser block, but I didn't buy my band saw for any reasons which will require extra height..the $149 price of the riser block cinched it for me. I have other tools I'd rather throw money at now! ; ) Bill If at some point you do go for the riser, find an industrial tool supply place. They don't carry premade blades. Tell them what you want and they will make it while you wait. The places I go carry Sterrett or Doall. Both very high quality. |
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On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:40:03 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14” models like the Grizzly’s, Jet’s & Deltas with riser blocks mainly because I need to cut some back splats for dining chairs that are 8” wide – so they will effectively be resawed in order to get the correct curve. Anyway, I have also looked at saws like the Jet 14DXPRO which is a 14” with 12” or so resaw and no riser blocks. I’ve read this & that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now. Thoughts? Cheers I'd recommend them.. shop around and you'll find a deal.. I put the grizzly riser kit on my Ridgid 14" and it works great.. Besides resawing, having that extra 6" also adds open area for light and clearance for add-on tables and jigs.. I've cut hundreds of bowl blanks on it, mostly green wood, and no more flex than without the lift.. Also remember that it's not just an iron block, it's also replacement blade guards and the bar that your upper guides mount on.. See if you have a saw shop in your area... I have all my blades made up at the shop, so it's no problem getting whatever size you want.. I think it's about a dollar more for 105" than 93" in our local shop.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On 2/3/2010 12:05 AM, Bill wrote:
Yes, my statement was based on my trip to Lowes today-- 93.5" blades yes, 105" blades no. There's your answer then ... if you buy your band saw blades at Lowes, you don't need a riser block. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/22/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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If at some point you do go for the riser, find an industrial tool supply place. They don't carry premade blades. Tell them what you want and they will make it while you wait. The places I go carry Sterrett or Doall. Both very high quality. I would add that my 18" Jet uses a 133" blade which isn't commonly available. I found a couple of industrial supply places that will make the blades from blade stock. Some tooth patters are a little cheaper than retail pre-mades. Usually 2-3 day service, sometimes overnight. RonB |
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Riser blocks or not?
" wrote in message ... I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14” models like the Grizzly’s, Jet’s & Deltas with riser blocks mainly because I need to cut some back splats for dining chairs that are 8” wide – so they will effectively be resawed in order to get the correct curve. Anyway, I have also looked at saws like the Jet 14DXPRO which is a 14” with 12” or so resaw and no riser blocks. I’ve read this & that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now. Thoughts? Cheers I have a Grizzly G0555 with the riser. Absolutely no problems. I usually order 105" Timberwolf blades but Sears carries a 105" cheapie if you're so inclined. Olsen also makes a good 105". Vic |
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" wrote in message ... I am in the market for a bandsaw. I am looking at the 14” models like the Grizzly’s, Jet’s & Deltas with riser blocks mainly because I need to cut some back splats for dining chairs that are 8” wide – so they will effectively be resawed in order to get the correct curve. Anyway, I have also looked at saws like the Jet 14DXPRO which is a 14” with 12” or so resaw and no riser blocks. I’ve read this & that about riser blocks, flexing etc. Do the 14" saws with riser blocks really flex that much to affect performance? I don’t expect to do tremendous amounts of resawing, and (Leon) I'd love have a Laguna, but it is simply not possible financially right now. Thoughts? Cheers Get the block, never look back. |
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Riser blocks or not?
Delta is it - I got the riser for bowls and such.
The cost includes a large block that is machined and a new blade protection riser that slides up and down adjusting the cut height. A massive machined bar is part of it. Ordering it as such might have been an additive hit for a larger motor. No idea really on your cost. Just my saw. Martin Bill wrote: "Jim Weisgram" wrote in message ... [...snip...] then you need 105" blades--harder to find, I think than their standard 93.5". [...snip...] Hmm, if you are willing to mail order you can get just about any size blade. Also they can be made to order for a reasonable price. Also, 105" is a pretty commonly available size, albeit maybe not found in local hardware stores. Yes, my statement was based on my trip to Lowes today-- 93.5" blades yes, 105" blades no. This thread made me consider the riser block, but I didn't buy my band saw for any reasons which will require extra height..the $149 price of the riser block cinched it for me. I have other tools I'd rather throw money at now! ; ) Bill |
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On Feb 3, 8:01*pm, "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote: Delta is it - I got the riser for bowls and such. The cost includes a large block that is machined and a new blade protection riser that slides up and down adjusting the cut height. *A massive machined bar is part of it. Ordering it as such might have been an additive hit for a larger motor. No idea really on your cost. *Just my saw. Thanks - which Delta? |
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I have the riser block on my Jet 14". I got it when they were
offering some promotion, so it was like $99 or such. I can't see any issues with it in place other than it's a bit harder to reach the blade tensioning rod at the top. I just made a lever to slip over the knob -- there are all kinds of nifty ways to set the tension these days. I order my blades -- BC Saw in Canada. Recommended by Michael Fortune. I find his advice very practical and very simple. Here's a link http://www.furnituresociety.org/furn...w_Complete.pdf |
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Long time ago I bought it - It might have a number.
It has a sister saw that cuts metal. If you get one, it sits on a metal stand and the table is about right for me. I have a 1 HP motor on mine and keep the riser on at all times. http://www.cpowoodworking.com/band_saws/ Consider the optional pulley on the side for slower speeds or lower surface speed. I use mine to resaw but wish I had a 2" wide blade or at least 1" for that function. Bowls need narrower blades so they can turn. Martin wrote: On Feb 3, 8:01 pm, "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote: Delta is it - I got the riser for bowls and such. The cost includes a large block that is machined and a new blade protection riser that slides up and down adjusting the cut height. A massive machined bar is part of it. Ordering it as such might have been an additive hit for a larger motor. No idea really on your cost. Just my saw. Thanks - which Delta? |
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