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Tenoning jig advice needed
Hi everyone. I'm trying to determine which after-market tenoning jigs will
work with Craftsman miter slots. I know, I know, everyone is jealous of my table saw, but it's NOT for sale. (grin) For what it's worth - It's about 3 years old and a (relatively speaking) "higher" end contractor saw (for Craftsman). It seems to me that the Delta won't work... Is this true? Any help as to what might work well would be greatly appreciated. I'm also looking for advice on a good bench top mortiser. Thanks for your help! Ben |
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I got one of the Delta jigs, and the metal guide bar was a tad too big
and snug making it a bit hard to slide in the groove of my dad's olds Craftman TS. I took the metal bar off of the jig and ground some of the width off using an old grinder that I salvaged from my dads barn / garage/ shop when we moved him back to the city years ago. That metal was HARD, but I eventually got it down enough that the jig slided just fine. BM Cooper wrote: Hi everyone. I'm trying to determine which after-market tenoning jigs will work with Craftsman miter slots. I know, I know, everyone is jealous of my table saw, but it's NOT for sale. (grin) For what it's worth - It's about 3 years old and a (relatively speaking) "higher" end contractor saw (for Craftsman). It seems to me that the Delta won't work... Is this true? Any help as to what might work well would be greatly appreciated. I'm also looking for advice on a good bench top mortiser. Thanks for your help! Ben |
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Well,
You knew what he meant, unlike many posts in this group (including some of mine). :-) "J T" wrote in message ... Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 5:20am (EST+5) (Mapdude) clearly says: snip slided snip Slided? ROTFLMAO JOAT Georges Clemenceau supposedly said, "War is too important a matter to be left to the military". If this is so, it is then obvious that peace is too precious to be left to politicians. Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT Web Page Update 28 Feb 2004. Some tunes I like. http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...ESILIKEVOCALS/ |
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As far as I know, most recent (at least for the last 3 years)
Craftsman saws use a standard miter slot. Certainly, my 3-yr old craftsman does. In other words, the delta jig should work fine. If you post the model#, you may be able to get more information out of this group. And, I'm very happy with my saw. I've poked and prodded the total runout below 0.004, have upgraded to an incra fence and a rockler sliding table system, have build my own dust collection, put in a link belt and a Forrest blade, and now can slice through thick stock with no burning or bogging down. (Yes, I could've spent the same amount of money and bought a cabinet saw, but then I wouldn't have had the incra and sliding table, which I love - plus, it's easier to get the wife to allow me to spend $1K on my saw over 3 years than it was to get her to agree to plunking down $1K up front). -VS. BM Cooper wrote in message ... Hi everyone. I'm trying to determine which after-market tenoning jigs will work with Craftsman miter slots. I know, I know, everyone is jealous of my table saw, but it's NOT for sale. (grin) For what it's worth - It's about 3 years old and a (relatively speaking) "higher" end contractor saw (for Craftsman). It seems to me that the Delta won't work... Is this true? Any help as to what might work well would be greatly appreciated. I'm also looking for advice on a good bench top mortiser. Thanks for your help! Ben |
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Hey.... Slided is plural and past tense for slid. You slide the jig
forward, you slided it back. That is Texas speak. I seen it done onced. |
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BM Cooper wrote in message
... Hi everyone. I'm trying to determine which after-market tenoning jigs will work with Craftsman miter slots. It seems to me that the Delta won't work... Is this true? Any help as to what might work well would be greatly appreciated. If the slots are now the standard size, it will work. Some of the cheaper saws had (have) an odd size and not a true "T" slot. Just measure them and if they are typical 3/4 x 3/8 it will work. The guide is just plain rectangle, not a protrusion that must fit into the "T". I'm also looking for advice on a good bench top mortiser. Thanks for your help! Ben From the reviews I've read, there are no really bad ones. I'm happy with my Delta, the Jet was rated high also in most reviews. Ed |
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Ben, I took some scrap Baltic Birch plywood, bought a clamp and built mine
to slide over and along my rip fence. About 2 hours of my time and $6 worth of materials. A good mortiser, Delta makes a decent one. Remember though, like with any chisel, you need to sharpen it before use. LeeValley makes a cone shaped stone to put in your drill to remove burrs from inside the chisel and you can polish the outs side of the chisel. This will make the whole set up work much better. "BM Cooper" wrote in message ... Hi everyone. I'm trying to determine which after-market tenoning jigs will work with Craftsman miter slots. I know, I know, everyone is jealous of my table saw, but it's NOT for sale. (grin) For what it's worth - It's about 3 years old and a (relatively speaking) "higher" end contractor saw (for Craftsman). It seems to me that the Delta won't work... Is this true? Any help as to what might work well would be greatly appreciated. I'm also looking for advice on a good bench top mortiser. Thanks for your help! Ben |
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"Leon" wrote in message
Hey.... Slided is plural and past tense for slid. You slide the jig forward, you slided it back. That is Texas speak. I seen it done onced. "I done slided it back." -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 2/13/04 |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message Hey.... Slided is plural and past tense for slid. You slide the jig forward, you slided it back. That is Texas speak. I seen it done onced. "I done slided it back." Persisely |
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Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 7:03am (EST-1) (Lowell=A0Holmes)
says: Well, You knew what he meant, unlike many posts in this group (including some of mine). :-) Indeed yes, the meaning was clear, which is the bottom line. Just struck me as tremendously funny at the time. And, still makes me smile. JOAT Georges Clemenceau supposedly said, "War is too important a matter to be left to the military". If this is so, it is then obvious that peace is too precious to be left to politicians. Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT Web Page Update 28 Feb 2004. Some tunes I like. http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...ESILIKEVOCALS/ |
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It's very common to have to modify, move, or even replace the bar on these
jigs. I have the Delta jig, and when I got it I had a Grizzly 1023. I had to move the bar over an inch or two. The slot-to-blade dimension is different between manufacturers. I say get the jig and plan on modifying the slide bar. It won't be a big deal. I assure you the cast iron jig beats the stain out of any wooden home made contraption. For the money I think it might be the best value tool in my shop. -- ******** Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com "BM Cooper" wrote in message ... Hi everyone. I'm trying to determine which after-market tenoning jigs will work with Craftsman miter slots. I know, I know, everyone is jealous of my table saw, but it's NOT for sale. (grin) For what it's worth - It's about 3 years old and a (relatively speaking) "higher" end contractor saw (for Craftsman). It seems to me that the Delta won't work... Is this true? Any help as to what might work well would be greatly appreciated. I'm also looking for advice on a good bench top mortiser. Thanks for your help! Ben |
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Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 3:05pm (EST+5) (Leon)
claims: Hey.... =A0 Slided is plural and past tense for slid. You slide the jig forward, you slided it back. That is Texas speak. I seen it done onced. I take it that is addressed to me, even if you don't express that. Aren't you the guy that came up with the past, present, and future tenses of "wrote"? Writ, rat, rotten. I did written it. I am ratting it. I will rotten it. JOAT Georges Clemenceau supposedly said, "War is too important a matter to be left to the military". If this is so, it is then obvious that peace is too precious to be left to politicians. Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT Web Page Update 28 Feb 2004. Some tunes I like. http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...ESILIKEVOCALS/ |
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Leon wrote:
Hey.... Slided is plural and past tense for slid. You slide the jig forward, you slided it back. That is Texas speak. I seen it done onced. According to Dizzy Dean, it's "slud". j4 |
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Everyone knows it should have been "slud". I learned from an old carpenter
that what one did with a ladder was you clumb it. I will climb that ladder. I clamb that ladder. I had clumb that ladder. Makes sense to me. Bejay "J T" wrote in message ... Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 7:03am (EST-1) (Lowell Holmes) says: Well, You knew what he meant, unlike many posts in this group (including some of mine). :-) Indeed yes, the meaning was clear, which is the bottom line. Just struck me as tremendously funny at the time. And, still makes me smile. JOAT Georges Clemenceau supposedly said, "War is too important a matter to be left to the military". If this is so, it is then obvious that peace is too precious to be left to politicians. Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT Web Page Update 28 Feb 2004. Some tunes I like. http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...ESILIKEVOCALS/ |
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"Bob Jones" wrote in message Everyone knows it should have been "slud". I learned from an old carpenter that what one did with a ladder was you clumb it. I will climb that ladder. I clamb that ladder. I had clumb that ladder. Makes sense to me. .... ah yes! Redneck verb conjugation ... the 'grits and gizzard greens' soul of the language. That said, being a good Catholic kid of about 8, with what I though was a pretty good working vocabulary at the time, and seeing the word "conjugation" for the first time, I was pretty sure it must have something to do with sex ... so I was excited as hell when Sister Mary Therese said we were going to start conjugating. Boy, was I surprised! -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 2/13/04 |
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No JAOT it was not me and yeah I was splainin it to yuh.
I like that Writ at an rotten... By the way jeet? "J T" wrote in message ... Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 3:05pm (EST+5) (Leon) claims: Hey.... Slided is plural and past tense for slid. You slide the jig forward, you slided it back. That is Texas speak. I seen it done onced. I take it that is addressed to me, even if you don't express that. Aren't you the guy that came up with the past, present, and future tenses of "wrote"? Writ, rat, rotten. I did written it. I am ratting it. I will rotten it. JOAT Georges Clemenceau supposedly said, "War is too important a matter to be left to the military". If this is so, it is then obvious that peace is too precious to be left to politicians. Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT Web Page Update 28 Feb 2004. Some tunes I like. http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...ESILIKEVOCALS/ |
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My favorites come from the Boston area... Like Norm always saying you can
get a set of measured DRAWERINGS for that chest of DRAWS. Down here in Texas and I suspect most anywhere else it is measured Drawings for the chest of Drawers. "Bob Jones" wrote in message . com... Everyone knows it should have been "slud". I learned from an old carpenter that what one did with a ladder was you clumb it. I will climb that ladder. I clamb that ladder. I had clumb that ladder. Makes sense to me. Bejay "J T" wrote in message ... Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 7:03am (EST-1) (Lowell Holmes) says: Well, You knew what he meant, unlike many posts in this group (including some of mine). :-) Indeed yes, the meaning was clear, which is the bottom line. Just struck me as tremendously funny at the time. And, still makes me smile. JOAT Georges Clemenceau supposedly said, "War is too important a matter to be left to the military". If this is so, it is then obvious that peace is too precious to be left to politicians. Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT Web Page Update 28 Feb 2004. Some tunes I like. http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...ESILIKEVOCALS/ |
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Leon wrote:
"Swingman" wrote in message ... "Leon" wrote in message Hey.... Slided is plural and past tense for slid. You slide the jig forward, you slided it back. That is Texas speak. I seen it done onced. "I done slided it back." Persisely I tell you whut! |
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Actually Leon here in WV it would be drawins and dwars. When I was a kid I
always wondered what a "chestered drawers" looked like till I found out there was no such thing.......... Jim "Leon" wrote in message m... My favorites come from the Boston area... Like Norm always saying you can get a set of measured DRAWERINGS for that chest of DRAWS. Down here in Texas and I suspect most anywhere else it is measured Drawings for the chest of Drawers. |
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Now see there, that looks and sounds perfectly fine to me........I dont get
it.... Jim Hey Leon, I aint eetyet. yaunt 2? Momannyms guna, we mideaswell. "Leon" wrote in message m... No JAOT it was not me and yeah I was splainin it to yuh. I like that Writ at an rotten... By the way jeet? |
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I disagree totally but I guess we're both entitled to our opinions eh?
Jim "Pounds on Wood" wrote in message s.com... I assure you the cast iron jig beats the stain out of any wooden home made contraption. For the money I think it might be the best value tool in my shop. -- ******** Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com "BM Cooper" wrote in message ... Hi everyone. I'm trying to determine which after-market tenoning jigs will work with Craftsman miter slots. I know, I know, everyone is jealous of my table saw, but it's NOT for sale. (grin) For what it's worth - It's about 3 years old and a (relatively speaking) "higher" end contractor saw (for Craftsman). It seems to me that the Delta won't work... Is this true? Any help as to what might work well would be greatly appreciated. I'm also looking for advice on a good bench top mortiser. Thanks for your help! Ben |
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What's the state flower in WV?
a satellite dish How do you know if you're rich in WV? you have 2 cars on blocks in the front yard How does a teenage girl in WV know if her mother is on the rag? her brother's dick tastes funny Sorry, couldn't resist. codepath "James D. Kountz" jkountz@(remove this)citlink.net wrote in message ... Actually Leon here in WV it would be drawins and dwars. When I was a kid I always wondered what a "chestered drawers" looked like till I found out there was no such thing.......... Jim "Leon" wrote in message m... My favorites come from the Boston area... Like Norm always saying you can get a set of measured DRAWERINGS for that chest of DRAWS. Down here in Texas and I suspect most anywhere else it is measured Drawings for the chest of Drawers. |
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Ok but answer this......If a man and woman in WV get divorced would they
still be brother and sister?? Jim "codepath" wrote in message ... What's the state flower in WV? a satellite dish How do you know if you're rich in WV? you have 2 cars on blocks in the front yard How does a teenage girl in WV know if her mother is on the rag? her brother's dick tastes funny Sorry, couldn't resist. codepath "James D. Kountz" jkountz@(remove this)citlink.net wrote in message ... Actually Leon here in WV it would be drawins and dwars. When I was a kid I always wondered what a "chestered drawers" looked like till I found out there was no such thing.......... Jim "Leon" wrote in message m... My favorites come from the Boston area... Like Norm always saying you can get a set of measured DRAWERINGS for that chest of DRAWS. Down here in Texas and I suspect most anywhere else it is measured Drawings for the chest of Drawers. |
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"James D. Kountz" wrote in message Ok but answer this......If a man and woman in WV get divorced would they still be brother and sister?? Jim Damn, you guys need some exercise. SCROLL DOWN NOW SCROLL UP NOW (feel the burn?) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 2/26/04 |
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hook, line, sinker, frying pan
good one "Swingman" wrote in message ... "James D. Kountz" wrote in message Ok but answer this......If a man and woman in WV get divorced would they still be brother and sister?? Jim Damn, you guys need some exercise. SCROLL DOWN NOW SCROLL UP NOW (feel the burn?) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 2/26/04 |
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That would make them half-brother/sister.
"James D. Kountz" jkountz@(remove this)citlink.net wrote in message ... Ok but answer this......If a man and woman in WV get divorced would they still be brother and sister?? Jim "codepath" wrote in message ... What's the state flower in WV? a satellite dish How do you know if you're rich in WV? you have 2 cars on blocks in the front yard How does a teenage girl in WV know if her mother is on the rag? her brother's dick tastes funny Sorry, couldn't resist. codepath "James D. Kountz" jkountz@(remove this)citlink.net wrote in message ... Actually Leon here in WV it would be drawins and dwars. When I was a kid I always wondered what a "chestered drawers" looked like till I found out there was no such thing.......... Jim "Leon" wrote in message m... My favorites come from the Boston area... Like Norm always saying you can get a set of measured DRAWERINGS for that chest of DRAWS. Down here in Texas and I suspect most anywhere else it is measured Drawings for the chest of Drawers. |
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Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 6:46pm (EST+5) (Leon)
claims:: snip Down here in Texas and I suspect most anywhere else it is measured Drawings for the chest of Drawers. Well, maybe it's because I'm divorced, but I take mine from the drier, and just keep them in the laundry basket. JOAT Georges Clemenceau supposedly said, "War is too important a matter to be left to the military". If this is so, it is then obvious that peace is too precious to be left to politicians. Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT Web Page Update 28 Feb 2004. Some tunes I like. http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofal...ESILIKEVOCALS/ |
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Just one more. What do you say to a WV woman with two black eyes? Nothing,
you told the bitch twice already............I know that one is kinda bad but my brother in law insisted I tell yall that one! Jim "codepath" wrote in message ... hook, line, sinker, frying pan good one "Swingman" wrote in message ... "James D. Kountz" wrote in message Ok but answer this......If a man and woman in WV get divorced would they still be brother and sister?? Jim Damn, you guys need some exercise. SCROLL DOWN NOW SCROLL UP NOW (feel the burn?) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 2/26/04 |
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BM Cooper wrote in message ...
Hi everyone. I'm trying to determine which after-market tenoning jigs will work with Craftsman miter slots. I know, I know, everyone is jealous of my table saw, but it's NOT for sale. (grin) For what it's worth - It's about 3 years old and a (relatively speaking) "higher" end contractor saw (for Craftsman). It seems to me that the Delta won't work... Is this true? Any help as to what might work well would be greatly appreciated. I'm also looking for advice on a good bench top mortiser. Thanks for your help! Ben Yes, the newer Craftsman saws are Ryobi made (yeah, I know) and have standard T-slots, which will work with the Delta tenoning jig, and probably any other brand. The older Emerson made Craftsman saws had slightly narrower slots, and I don't think they were T-slots. I'm not positive when the transition year was, but I think it was around 1999 or 2000. If your Craftsman saw is left tilt, as is mine, make sure the tenoning jig you buy will work with a left tilt saw. My Delta jig is the deluxe model (don't know the model # at the moment) and can be switched for left tilt, but I'm not sure if the regular Delta model can be switched. Tom |
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Thanks for the good information. Mine is one of the Emerson models. And it
is slightly narrower than standard (Can't remember how I discovered this anymore). Sounds like I'll have to get creative possibly. Somebody told me today that the newest Delta jigs were designed to compensate for this somehow, though... Either way it sounds like I can make it work with some ingenuity. In other words: "I gets dat sumbitch slided in dair somehow, ya'll." On 2/26/04 11:06 PM, in article , "Tom M." wrote: Yes, the newer Craftsman saws are Ryobi made (yeah, I know) and have standard T-slots, which will work with the Delta tenoning jig, and probably any other brand. The older Emerson made Craftsman saws had slightly narrower slots, and I don't think they were T-slots. I'm not positive when the transition year was, but I think it was around 1999 or 2000. If your Craftsman saw is left tilt, as is mine, make sure the tenoning jig you buy will work with a left tilt saw. My Delta jig is the deluxe model (don't know the model # at the moment) and can be switched for left tilt, but I'm not sure if the regular Delta model can be switched. Tom |
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I have an older Craftsman (about 8-10 years old) that has standard non-T
slots (I measured them). Just got an Incra V27 for Christmas. Worked slicker than snot right outta the box. codepath "Tom M." wrote in message om... BM Cooper wrote in message ... Hi everyone. I'm trying to determine which after-market tenoning jigs will work with Craftsman miter slots. I know, I know, everyone is jealous of my table saw, but it's NOT for sale. (grin) For what it's worth - It's about 3 years old and a (relatively speaking) "higher" end contractor saw (for Craftsman). It seems to me that the Delta won't work... Is this true? Any help as to what might work well would be greatly appreciated. I'm also looking for advice on a good bench top mortiser. Thanks for your help! Ben Yes, the newer Craftsman saws are Ryobi made (yeah, I know) and have standard T-slots, which will work with the Delta tenoning jig, and probably any other brand. The older Emerson made Craftsman saws had slightly narrower slots, and I don't think they were T-slots. I'm not positive when the transition year was, but I think it was around 1999 or 2000. If your Craftsman saw is left tilt, as is mine, make sure the tenoning jig you buy will work with a left tilt saw. My Delta jig is the deluxe model (don't know the model # at the moment) and can be switched for left tilt, but I'm not sure if the regular Delta model can be switched. Tom |
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