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Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1"
x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? What sort of tool? |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
On Aug 11, 7:29*am, Wood Guy wrote:
A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. *There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? *What sort of tool? Oh My! That is a LOT of fence. Need a little more detail on how the fence is going to be built. It almost sounds like the 1x6's are being put into the slotted holes. Is this a solid panel privacy fence or a post and rail fence? RonB Ron |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
RonB wrote:
Need a little more detail on how the fence is going to be built. It almost sounds like the 1x6's are being put into the slotted holes. Yes. Is this a solid panel privacy fence or a post and rail fence? The posts are going to be 8, or maybe 10 feet long, set 3 or 4 feet into the ground (where the frost line is in this area). This would put the top of the posts about 5 or 6 feet above ground. Posts would be set 8 or 10 feet apart. The three 6" boards would be spaced out, probably starting 2 feet above ground, with 1 or 1.5 feet between boards. The purpose of the fence is to contain a few horses within a certain area. Presumably horses rarely attempt to jump over fences that are 5 to 6 feet in height. |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
chain mortiser? |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
In article , Wood Guy wrote:
A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? What sort of tool? Well, you could get all tooled up with a hollow chisel mortiser, or all burly with a mallet and a mortising chisel, but if you are more into getting the job done fisrly fast and not buying fancy tools, a good sized router with a carbide bit and a jig should get the job done, albeit with rounded ends on the holes. Have to go in from both sides. Pay attention to drainage or you'll have rotted boards in short order. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
On Aug 11, 9:08*am, Ecnerwal
wrote: In article , Wood Guy wrote: A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. *There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? *What sort of tool? Well, you could get all tooled up with a hollow chisel mortiser, or all burly with a mallet and a mortising chisel, but if you are more into getting the job done fisrly fast and not buying fancy tools, a good sized router with a carbide bit and a jig should get the job done, albeit with rounded ends on the holes. Have to go in from both sides. Pay attention to drainage or you'll have rotted boards in short order. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by This router approach is kinda what I had in mind when I asked my question. I suspected it was a rail-type of fence. You probably wouldn't have to go all the way through...just a couple of inches to allow the boards to be inserted and fastened. At 10' lengths, you should have some flexibility in the rails. You might try a couple of lengths, even in the shop, before you commit to the entire job. With hand-mortising 100 posts, the horses would be dead before I finished the fence. BTW: On 10' centers, are 1x 6 boards rigid enough to hold horses? Might be with the ends fastened. RonB |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
RonB wrote:
Well, you could get all tooled up with a hollow chisel mortiser, or all burly with a mallet and a mortising chisel, but if you are more into getting the job done fisrly fast and not buying fancy tools, a good sized router with a carbide bit and a jig should get the job done This router approach is kinda what I had in mind when I asked my question. I suspected it was a rail-type of fence. You probably wouldn't have to go all the way through...just a couple of inches to allow the boards to be inserted and fastened. I should have thought of that. No need to go all the way through the posts, except that it means the slots are automatically aligned properly. I have a floor-standing drill press with a cross-slide vice, I also have a relatively large router - but no router table. It would be more of a hassle to set the router up to do these posts vs the drill press. I suppose I could use a router bit on the drill press. There are also drills that cut side-ways (don't know what they're called exactly). If these are cedar posts, I suppose it's soft enough to try one of those drills instead of a 1" diam x 2" deep router bit. Pay attention to drainage or you'll have rotted boards in short order. I've had some good experience with using PL-Premium adhesive on exposed, outdoor wood. Seems to hold up well under intermittent water exposure, and winter/summer temperature swings. I'm thinking that using liberal amounts of that glue to hold the boards in the slots (and sealing up the slots in the process) might be the way to go. Yes? |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
These guys are staring to sound like the offspring of Narm Abrams and
Rube Goldberg. This is a fence we're talking about, not shaker furniture. :-) All you need is a guy proficient with a chainsaw. I don't mean a neighbor with a rusty saw who uses it once a year. I mean a guy who earns a living with it (or used to). You're up north, so you might be able to hire a logger or tree trimming guy who's an artist with the saw. That kind of guy could cut those after the posts are sunk in the ground. He could do three slots in a post in about 30 seconds and they'd be as straight as if they were cut at a factory. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
Use a drill of the right size drill as many holes as you need [OOOO]
then square of the hole with a chisel. "Wood Guy" wrote in message ... A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? What sort of tool? |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
All you need is a guy proficient with a chainsaw. I don't mean a neighbor with a rusty saw who uses it once a year. I mean a guy who earns a living with it (or used to). You're up north, so you might be able to hire a logger or tree trimming guy who's an artist with the saw. That kind of guy could cut those after the posts are sunk in the ground. He could do three slots in a post in about 30 seconds and they'd be as straight as if they were cut at a factory. --Yeah --- that too if you can find that kind of guy :^} But, if you use a router, make a jig from plywood or similar material that can be set on the post and direct the shape of the slot. Not freehand. |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
A router is going to be about the fastest. Drilling will take way to
long. Just make a u shaped channel that you can drop the posts into on top of a table. Plunge and route. You can use a small level to draw a line across one end of the post, then it is easy to rotate it 180 degrees and do the cuts from eaither side. Just mark the channel where you want the cuts. You could even build stops for real accuracy. On Aug 11, 5:29*am, Wood Guy wrote: A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. *There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? *What sort of tool? |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
Wood Guy wrote:
A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? What sort of tool? Being raised on a horse farm and having used many types of fences, he may want to rethink the round posts and the rail dimensions, unless he wants to put up electric wire on the inside. Those proposed 1 x 6 rails will not hold up to the inevitable horse shenanigans ... ideally they need to be 1 1/2" thick and that will obviously impact your plans to cut "slots" in your posts. I like square posts for a wooden horse fence ... it is easier to replace the inevitable broken rails if you nail (galvanized) them on. It is difficult to replace rails that run through a post. I've had to deal with this very thing using concrete posts and through rails, so DAMHIKT. That said, you usually have to make the mistake to realize the wisdom of experience ... -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/22/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
I'm kind of wondering about the validity of putting boards in slots
for a fence. Unless you're fencing land that has a perfectly straight fenceline and no variations in elevation (highly unlikely), then you'll have to allow for this in your slots. I thinking making the slots in the shop will lead to a frustrating, if not impossible, fitting experience in the field. Bob |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
Wood Guy wrote:
RonB wrote: Well, you could get all tooled up with a hollow chisel mortiser, or all burly with a mallet and a mortising chisel, but if you are more into getting the job done fisrly fast and not buying fancy tools, a good sized router with a carbide bit and a jig should get the job done This router approach is kinda what I had in mind when I asked my question. I suspected it was a rail-type of fence. You probably wouldn't have to go all the way through...just a couple of inches to allow the boards to be inserted and fastened. I should have thought of that. No need to go all the way through the posts, except that it means the slots are automatically aligned properly. .... This is a bad idea on several fronts--see swingman's posting. Iterating some of his points-- First, 1x cedar isn't _nearly_ enough beef in the fence unless the posts are going to be on 3-ft centers or less; they'll get pushed thru and broken within months if not weeks or days. Second, the idea of the inserted slats is a poor one also--first, it is as noted labor-intensive in the making by hand; second, it'll be a pita to build because if the pockets don't go through you have to insert one end, then hold the post in place while setting it on the other end to insert them, repeat..._BIG_PITA_!!! :( Then even if it's done, any movement of posts can (and will) end up w/ boards falling out when a post gets moved (and they _will_ move unless are set to such a depth and w/ such backfilling as to again make the building and expense absurd over time). And, besides that, as swingman notes, repair of the aforementioned broken rails is going to be another royal pita if the posts _haven't_ moved (so your damned if they do and damned if they don't :) ). And, as if all that weren't enough, the pocket is simply a water-collection point to promote early failure of the post and rail ends--they rest of the rail will be fine for years; the end inside the pocket will rot and weaken in a much shorter time--perhaps as short as a few years in really damp locales. All in all, look at how typical fences in the Bluegrass horse country are built for functionality as well as appearance and learn... :) -- |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
"Swingman" wrote... : : Being raised on a horse farm and having used many types of fences, he : may want to rethink the round posts and the rail dimensions, unless he : wants to put up electric wire on the inside. : : Those proposed 1 x 6 rails will not hold up to the inevitable horse : shenanigans ... ideally they need to be 1 1/2" thick and that will : obviously impact your plans to cut "slots" in your posts. : : I like square posts for a wooden horse fence ... it is easier to replace : the inevitable broken rails if you nail (galvanized) them on. It is : difficult to replace rails that run through a post. I've had to deal : with this very thing using concrete posts and through rails, so DAMHIKT. : : That said, you usually have to make the mistake to realize the wisdom of : experience ... I too was raised with horses and agree with every point Swingman makes. Horses get bored, even in a pasture full of grass and other horses, and will eat any wooden rails provided for their entertainment. They also love to scratch their asses on the fence and I've seen plenty of rough sawn 2x8s broken by them. Fence maintenance was a weekly task until we added a hot wire along each and every rail. No way would I ever consider mortising the rails into the posts on a horse fence. Use really sturdy posts (we used old telephone poles) and spike the rails solidly to them. Art |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
In article , Wood Guy wrote:
A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? What sort of tool? Chainsaw -- There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat, plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken) Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:12:29 -0500, Swingman wrote:
Wood Guy wrote: A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? What sort of tool? Being raised on a horse farm and having used many types of fences, he may want to rethink the round posts and the rail dimensions, unless he wants to put up electric wire on the inside. Those proposed 1 x 6 rails will not hold up to the inevitable horse shenanigans ... ideally they need to be 1 1/2" thick and that will obviously impact your plans to cut "slots" in your posts. That's interesting. I know nothing about horses, but there are a number of houses around here that have a horse or two and most of them just have barbed wire strung on light angle iron or something similarly light weight. There's one very recent one that put up an electrified wire around most of it, but there is a section where there is just a stone wall that can't be more than 2 feet high, with brush around it but still. I've always found it a bit odd, seems like any of them could get out without breaking a sweat, but they apparently don't. -Kevin |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
That's interesting. I know nothing about horses, but there are a
number of houses around here that have a horse or two and most of them just have barbed wire strung on light angle iron or something similarly light weight. There's one very recent one that put up an electrified wire around most of it, but there is a section where there is just a stone wall that can't be more than 2 feet high, with brush around it but still. I've always found it a bit odd, seems like any of them could get out without breaking a sweat, but they apparently don't. -Kevin They know where the food is. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
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That's interesting. *I know nothing about horses, but there are a number of houses around here that have a horse or two and most of them just have barbed wire strung on light angle iron or something similarly l......... I suspect they are strung on "T-Posts". T-Posts are an extruded metal shape with a large, flat plate welded along the length and near the bottom. They are driven into the ground so the plate is buried and used for wire fences, usually barbed wire. They might look a little spindly but they are a pretty effective and economic fence system. RonB |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
RonB wrote:
I suspect they are strung on "T-Posts". T-Posts are an extruded metal shape with a large, flat plate welded along the length and near the bottom. They are driven into the ground so the plate is buried and used for wire fences, usually barbed wire. They might look a little spindly but they are a pretty effective and economic fence system. And they make electrical insulators that fit on T-posts nicely for smooth wire, electrified fences ... we used them a lot for temporarily cross fencing a pasture to keep from overgrazing since they're so easy to put up ... a 2' section of 2 7/8 production tubing, with a plate welded across the top, and a couple of U shaped re-bar handles welded to the sides, makes an effective fence post "driver". Most horses will eventually walk right through a smooth wire fence without electrification, and the propensity of a horse to suffer serious injury from fencing being directionally proportional to the horses worth, you really don't want barbed wire around most modern breeds. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/22/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
On Aug 11, 6:59*pm, Swingman wrote:
RonB wrote: * I suspect they are strung on "T-Posts". *T-Posts are an extruded metal * shape with a large, flat plate welded along the length and near the * bottom. *They are driven into the ground so the plate is buried and * used for wire fences, usually barbed wire. *They might look a little * spindly but they are a pretty effective and economic fence system. And they make electrical insulators that fit on T-posts nicely for smooth wire, electrified fences ... we used them a lot for temporarily cross fencing a pasture to keep from overgrazing since they're so easy to put up ... a 2' section of 2 7/8 production tubing, with a plate welded across the top, and a couple of U shaped re-bar handles welded to the sides, makes an effective fence post "driver". Most horses will eventually walk right through a smooth wire fence without electrification, and the propensity of a horse to suffer serious injury from fencing being directionally proportional to the horses worth, you really don't want barbed wire around most modern breeds. --www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/22/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) Yes, and this string of posts reminded me of a friend's misfortune last year. One of her favorites was "horsing" around with a mate and fell against a wooden fence. A board broke and partially impaled her in the lower abdomen. She survived with surgery and some very tender loving care. The more I think about the posted fence plan, the more I dislike it. Labor intensive and dangerous. That's probably why a lot of local horse folks are building the welded fences. Smooth rails with curved transitions. |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
Mike Marlow wrote:
.... Penned in animals tend to respect their boundaries. 1 x X has been used to pen in cattle, horses, pigs, and every other form of creature forever. Well, certainly not buffalo... :) _Full_ thickness 1x ok altho no "real" working fence I can think of ever seeing other than for pet-type pens were only 1" other than sheep, maybe. Cattle, horses, etc., are just too rough on stuff. As somebody else noted, virtually anything these days is welded pipe/rod and/or cable because of a combination of longevity and cost. The feedlots and working corrals use a lot of highway guard rail (by the flatbed truckloads lot). Of course they're handling anywhere up to perhaps 100k head, probably a few more than OP has in mind... :) Sure, they can get through it, but they can blast right through barbed wire too. And electric fences. "CAN" is relative. The problem as somebody else (different somebody though, iirc) is that smooth fencing w/o "bobweyur" :) or electric wire suffers the fate of being rubbed against until they simply just push thru whereas the hot wire or barbed wire stops that. After a hot wire has been in place for a while, cattle in particular will not willingly cross the location where it has been even if it's taken down for quite some time. I'll never forget the time we added a hot wire around the top of the bull pen because the bull would just push over anything in place to achieve his objective of "visiting" even though he was as gentle and tamed to follow as a dog his size allowed him to even eventually push over railroad tie-built solid fences. We finall did add the wire. When it was turned on, he sniffed around it (any tiny arcing creates some ozone they can smell) and finally reached out and licked that sucker...no fence pushing after that. -- |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
"dpb" wrote After a hot wire has been in place for a while, cattle in particular will not willingly cross the location where it has been even if it's taken down for quite some time. I'll never forget the time we added a hot wire around the top of the bull pen because the bull would just push over anything in place to achieve his objective of "visiting" even though he was as gentle and tamed to follow as a dog his size allowed him to even eventually push over railroad tie-built solid fences. We finall did add the wire. When it was turned on, he sniffed around it (any tiny arcing creates some ozone they can smell) and finally reached out and licked that sucker...no fence pushing after that. -- Yep, every farmboy has ****ed on an electric fence. That experience stays with you. One of the things we used to do to our city cousins was to talk them into ****ing on the electric fence. Which proves two things. Young boys do stupid things. And we were easily amused. |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
In article , (Larry W) wrote:
In article , Wood Guy wrote: A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? What sort of tool? Chainsaw BTW--Horses are not right bright. If you use barbed wire expect a lot of vet bills for patching up rips and tears. Three or four hot wires on metal "T" posts with insulators is the common fence around here with heavily anchored corners.. Some people put a white strapping tape about 1 " wide above the top wire running the full length of the fence.. Horses and people see the tape a lot easier and learn to respect the fence. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090811-0, 08/11/2009 Tested on: 8/11/2009 9:26:05 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
BTW--Horses are not right bright. If you use barbed wire expect a lot of vet bills for patching up rips and tears. Three or four hot wires on metal "T" posts with insulators is the common fence around here with heavily anchored corners.. Some people put a white strapping tape about 1 " wide above the top wire running the full length of the fence.. Horses and people see the tape a lot easier and learn to respect the fence. --- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Instead of the white tape --- hang a sign, Like this ! ( some people are born stupid) LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tPK5HpfjkA |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
To cut the slots you need a chainsaw plus, and its a big plus, an expert
to use it. Lincolnshire fencing has been used for years to contain animals but its mostly topped with an electric fence nowadays. The rails are cut in a sort of wedge at each end so the the rails lock each other into the slots. I reckon ten feet apart is too far, the rails will flap in the breeze at that distance. See http://www.klmfencingservices.com/in...806&pid=579084 for an illustration. |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
" How would you go about forming these slots? *What sort of tool?
Buy the finished poles at the Home Depot or Lowes. I believe they call it a split rail fence and sell the posts and the fence boards, too. But, as many woodworking enthusiasts, my knowledge of fencing in livestock is somewhat limited. Thus, I would suggest you might Google "livestock fencing installers" to get an idea of what works before "tooling up." |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:09:55 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
wrote: A router is going to be about the fastest. Drilling will take way to long. Just make a u shaped channel that you can drop the posts into on top of a table. Plunge and route. You can use a small level to draw a line across one end of the post, then it is easy to rotate it 180 degrees and do the cuts from eaither side. Just mark the channel where you want the cuts. You could even build stops for real accuracy. On Aug 11, 5:29*am, Wood Guy wrote: A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. *There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? *What sort of tool? ....I'd set up my PC box-lock mortiser and knock 'em out pretty quickly...but only *after* the posts are in the ground! Trying to pre-bore or pre cut fence posts is a potential disaster...get 'em in the ground, run some strings and cut 'em all to height at once...then make a jig or two and you're in business. cg |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
"dpb" wrote [snip] : After a hot wire has been in place for a while, cattle in particular : will not willingly cross the location where it has been even if it's : taken down for quite some time. I'll never forget the time we added a : hot wire around the top of the bull pen because the bull would just push : over anything in place to achieve his objective of "visiting" even : though he was as gentle and tamed to follow as a dog his size allowed : him to even eventually push over railroad tie-built solid fences. We : finall did add the wire. When it was turned on, he sniffed around it : (any tiny arcing creates some ozone they can smell) and finally reached : out and licked that sucker...no fence pushing after that. Our horses figured out when it was off. I don't know if it was the ozone smell or the sound of the corona arcs but when it was off they'd chew and scratch ass on the fence rails. It didn't take long to cure that though as we'd just wait for one of them to be doing their deed and we'd turn the juice on. They learned real quick that that wire could bite all the time and they then stayed away from it all the time. Art |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
On Aug 12, 10:35*am, Charlie Groh wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:09:55 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com" wrote: A router is going to be about the fastest. Drilling will take way to long. Just make a u shaped channel that you can drop the posts into on top of a table. Plunge and route. You can use a small level to draw a line across one end of the post, then it is easy to rotate it 180 degrees and do the cuts from eaither side. Just mark the channel where you want the cuts. You could even build stops for real accuracy. On Aug 11, 5:29*am, Wood Guy wrote: A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. *There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? *What sort of tool? ...I'd set up my PC *box-lock mortiser and knock 'em out pretty quickly...but only *after* the posts are in the ground! *Trying to pre-bore or pre cut fence posts is a potential disaster...get 'em in the ground, run some strings and cut 'em all to height at once...then make a jig or two and you're in business. cg- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I may be missing something here, and I agree with you about the potential disaster, but after getting them in the ground how are you going to put the boards in place. As I see it you will have to bow the boards out to get them to clear the edge of the post and fit in the mortise. Just my thoughts. Al |
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Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
On Aug 12, 7:40*pm, Charlie Groh wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:46:48 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Aug 12, 10:35*am, Charlie Groh wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:09:55 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com" wrote: A router is going to be about the fastest. Drilling will take way to long. Just make a u shaped channel that you can drop the posts into on top of a table. Plunge and route. You can use a small level to draw a line across one end of the post, then it is easy to rotate it 180 degrees and do the cuts from eaither side. Just mark the channel where you want the cuts. You could even build stops for real accuracy. On Aug 11, 5:29*am, Wood Guy wrote: A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. *There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? *What sort of tool? ...I'd set up my PC *box-lock mortiser and knock 'em out pretty quickly...but only *after* the posts are in the ground! *Trying to pre-bore or pre cut fence posts is a potential disaster...get 'em in the ground, run some strings and cut 'em all to height at once...then make a jig or two and you're in business. cg- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I may be missing something here, and I agree with you about the potential disaster, but after getting them in the ground how are you going to put the boards in place. *As I see it you will have to bow the boards out to get them to clear the edge of the post and fit in the mortise. Just my thoughts. Al ...oops, you're right there, pardner! *Maybe set every *other* post, then you'd have a good shot at assembling and setting! cg- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text Charlie, You will need a generator to run your router or a long extension cord. I think that a better alternative would be to either overlap the boards or put one on each side of the fence and bolt them in place. A lot more forgiving pattern, but doesn't look as classy. Al AL- |
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Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
Mike Marlow wrote:
Penned in animals tend to respect their boundaries. 1 x X has been used to pen in cattle, horses, pigs, and every other form of creature forever. Sure, they can get through it, but they can blast right through barbed wire too. And electric fences. Yes, I've seen this a million times. If it were me, I'd either use Swingmans idea, which seems the cheapest and easiest to install, or I'd buy posts with mortises already in them, something like this: (http://www.postsaverusa.com/fence-posts.html For sure, I would not make a zillion mortises with a router. A chain mortiser would be a must. I probably would seriously consider an electric wire along the fence to keep those big galoots off the fence, so the fence would be more for looks than to keep a ton of horse contained. Between me and the golf course I regularly go there is an old homestead that has horses. The front "yard" is about 50 acres that boarders the road that takes me to the golf course. Occasionally there are several horses grazing in the front yard. There is NO fence. About a foot or less off the ground there is a wire, one wire with white ribbons tied to it. It does not appear to be those buried sonic things that keep dogs in, because one, it ain't buried, and two, I've seen horses grazing right along side the fence. The road is very busy with a 45 mph speed limit and the average speed is at least 50mph. The horses could just step over the "fence" A two year old baby could step over the fence. I've never seen anything like this and always wonder WTF? Apparently these folks know what they are doing, but it always makes me nervous when I drive past and a horse is near the "fence". It makes me crazy to see this and not know what the trick is. All I know about horses is what I used to see on the Saturday morning cowboy shows when I was a kid, and that they are far harder to ride than it looks... -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://www.eternal-september.org/ http://jbstein.com |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
Or sand paper and some hot pepper :-)
Martin Stuart wrote: In article , Artemus wrote: They also love to scratch their asses on the fence and I've seen plenty of rough sawn 2x8s broken by them. Perhaps you need to plane and sand them instead so they are really smooth and unsuitable for satisfying the horses' needs :-) |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
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"Wood Guy" wrote in message ... A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? What sort of tool? |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:30:00 -0400, "Frank K."
wrote: He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? What sort of tool? A little square holed wooden jig and a router bit with a collar is what I'd use. Then, maybe a jigsaw or a sharp chisel to square the inside corners. The other alternative if you can get the use of one, is a mortiser. |
Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
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Best way to cut vertical slots through round posts?
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:30:00 -0400, "Frank K."
wrote: http://woodworker.com/chain-mssu-889-393.asp "Wood Guy" wrote in message ... A friend wants to build a fence using round, 6" diam cedar posts and 1" x 6" pine or spruce boards. He wants to cut slots through the center of the posts (3 slots) that are just large enough to slide the boards through. There are going to be lots of posts - maybe 100 or more. How would you go about forming these slots? What sort of tool? If I did not have a mortiser, I'd build a jig with a flat top, three slots and sides that fit my router equipped with a guide bushing and straight cut spiral bit. |
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