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Using Pressure Treated for Screen Frames
Is it a good idea to use pressure treated stock to make screen frames
to be used on covered porch? The frames are to be painted with exterior house paint. I'm wondering if warping will be a problem. Also, I'm wondering how wide the fame material should be. I will be using stock that i will mill down to 3/4" thick. |
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On May 14, 8:56 pm, gary wrote:
Is it a good idea to use pressure treated stock to make screen frames to be used on covered porch? The frames are to be painted with exterior house paint. I'm wondering if warping will be a problem. Also, I'm wondering how wide the fame material should be. I will be using stock that i will mill down to 3/4" thick. I wouldn't, especially if I was going to mill it down. Not sure the actual chemical they pressure treat with goes very far beneath the surface. Plus, what I've seen of pressure treated lumber is very wet. Probably has a high moisture content and might likely warp/bow/ twist as it dries. I would use a clear pine or something, prime it with oil base paint and topcoat with a good latex. I would guess 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inch width for the frames depending on how large they are on average. For normal sized like 36 x 60 I would use 1 1/2 with one rail halfway between the upper and lower rails. BTW there is a proper way to make the rails and stiles but I don't recall offhand which way it is. Either the upper and lower rails fit between the two verticle stiles OR they go above and below the vertical stiles. I think its the former but not sure. |
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"gary" wrote: Is it a good idea to use pressure treated stock to make screen frames to be used on covered porch? IMHO, NO! It's wet, it's chintzy, and you sure don't want to machine the stuff. I'd machine Doug Fir, then prime and paint afterb ass'y Lew |
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Using Pressure Treated for Screen Frames
On Wed, 14 May 2008 18:56:32 -0700 (PDT), gary
wrote: Is it a good idea to use pressure treated stock to make screen frames to be used on covered porch? The frames are to be painted with exterior house paint. I'm wondering if warping will be a problem. Also, I'm wondering how wide the fame material should be. I will be using stock that i will mill down to 3/4" thick. Use an outdoor wood such as cyprus, white oak, teak, cedar, redwood., etc. Or, prime/paint with any hardwood. Your width depends on the size of the frame, maybe 1" for an average size. |
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On May 14, 8:56*pm, gary wrote:
Is it a good idea to use pressure treated stock to make screen frames to be used on covered porch? The frames are to be painted with exterior house paint. I'm wondering if warping will be a problem. Also, I'm wondering how wide the fame material should be. I will be using stock that i will mill down to 3/4" thick. HI, I would not use presurre treated wood for this, I would use cedar, cypress or oak. Prime and paint. I have section on outdoor wood uses on my web site under outdoor projects Randy http:/nokeswoodworks.com |
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Using Pressure Treated for Screen Frames
"gary" wrote in message ... Is it a good idea to use pressure treated stock to make screen frames to be used on covered porch? The frames are to be painted with exterior house paint. I'm wondering if warping will be a problem. Also, I'm wondering how wide the fame material should be. I will be using stock that i will mill down to 3/4" thick. From what I understand the new PT material is much safer to use and be around/less toxic. You do need to use APC rated fasteners with the "new" PT lumber as the typical hardware will prematurely corrode. PT will warp as it dries out. You can buy Kiln Dried PT but you ill most likely have to search for it as better lumber yards. Additionally, paint does not usually adhere well to wet PT lumber. Kiln dried helps in this respect also. |
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On May 14, 6:56*pm, gary wrote:
Is it a good idea to use pressure treated stock to make screen frames to be used on covered porch? There's no benefit. Pressure treated wood is resistant to mold, fungus, and insects and can be left in contact with moisture for extended periods of time (20 years in a foundation). Your screens are in open air and sunlight, and will get wet/dry with the seasons. Paint or stain will protect against sunlight and wet/dry cycles, but pressure treatment does nothing for that. |
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Using Pressure Treated for Screen Frames
NO...SYP in any version will warp in time unless it is
nailed or glued down. gary wrote: Is it a good idea to use pressure treated stock to make screen frames to be used on covered porch? The frames are to be painted with exterior house paint. I'm wondering if warping will be a problem. Also, I'm wondering how wide the fame material should be. I will be using stock that i will mill down to 3/4" thick. |
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I should have mentioned some woods that "will"
work: white oak cypress white pine cedar fir poplar gary wrote: Is it a good idea to use pressure treated stock to make screen frames to be used on covered porch? The frames are to be painted with exterior house paint. I'm wondering if warping will be a problem. Also, I'm wondering how wide the fame material should be. I will be using stock that i will mill down to 3/4" thick. |
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"gary" wrote Is it a good idea to use pressure treated stock to make screen frames to be used on covered porch? The frames are to be painted with exterior house paint. No, Fir. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 5/14/08 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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Pat Barber writes:
I should have mentioned some woods that "will" work: white oak cypress white pine cedar fir poplar I'm surprised you have poplar on the list. I always thought that poplar was NOT an outdoor wood. |
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Using Pressure Treated for Screen Frames
On Wed, 14 May 2008 18:56:32 -0700 (PDT), gary
wrote: Is it a good idea to use pressure treated stock to make screen frames to be used on covered porch? The frames are to be painted with exterior house paint. I'm wondering if warping will be a problem. Also, I'm wondering how wide the fame material should be. I will be using stock that i will mill down to 3/4" thick. You could use KDAT (Kiln Dried After Treatment) pressure treated but I much prefer Clear All Heart Vertical Grain Western Red Cedar. Regards, Tom Thos.J.Watson - Cabinetmaker tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet www.home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 |
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