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Follow up on purchase of used General 350 Table Saw - not the gloat vote, yet!
Folks -
As I mentioned last week, SWMBO and I went to the SF Bay Area last week and amont other things, purchased a General Table Saw and accessories. I'll tell you what all I paid for the package in my next post, but here's a progress report on setting up the saw and *making room for it* in the sho...er, garage... It was a fairly easy process loading and unloading the saw with a big hand truck, like they use for loading refrigerators... We laid the saw on the truck on its' side to load it and then stood it up - it was easier than I thought and the truck (small nissan) handled the load okay. I was afraid of the truck being top heavy and had given thought to taking off the top and removing the motor to lower the center of gravity. No need... Unloading was simple and I was able to crab-walk it and tip it into the mobile base without trouble. The problem is that the saw sat lower than my bench, which I had set up as an outfeed table for the contractor saw I had been using. I pulled the saw back out and built up a plywood frame to raise the saw a bit over 2 inches leaving it about 1/4 inch higher than my bench. While I had the saw off of the base, I was considering removing the top to do a "full tilt" job of cleaning, adjusting and lubing everything "under the hood" - SWMBO talked me out of it and said I should just lube it up and RUN it to see how it was without adjustments, and then IF it needed tweaking, I could do so.... Then she started rattling off all of the projects that are supposed to be done by Kwanzaa, er, Christmas... I figured then I could do a "before and after" after the holidays, so I just sprayed some chain lube on the trunion gears and worm shaft bearings. I built an extension table and mounted the Biesemeyer 50" commercial fence, but discovered that the fence had been mounted about 1/16 too low, so I shimmed up the rectangular tube that bolts to the angle that mounts to the saw proper. The fence had been adjusted to "heel out" at the back by almost 1/4 inch, but the adjustments were a snap. I didn't use a feeler guage or dial indicator to set the heel to start, I just aligned it even with the miter slot and then nudged the allen screw adjustment a tad to heel the fence out in the back just a smidgen. Until I got the extension legs mounted the saw was pretty tippy in the HTC mobile base and I had some lingering thoughts about its' 3 point wheel set up. As soon as I mounted the extension legs the whole assembly firmed up nicely, so it wasn't a problem. I rewired my power outlet to match the saw power plug and FIRED IT UP.... Whoooeeeeee! The Forrest WWII cut through some oak like butter and the cut was very clean - there were just the faintest crosshatch blade marks on the cut (after I highlighted them with some chalk) so the fence seems like it is aligned okay. I cut a couple of 24" squares of MDF for jig componeents and they were dead on square; not within a 1/8, 1/16 or 1/32... They were EXACTLY the same across the diagonals... It was SO nice after having put up with a contractor's saw for so long. I think the trunions on the General 350 weigh more than the whole saw I had been using. The big problem has been making room for the bigger saw and table in the shop. I've been working for the last two days organising, ****-canning and moving things about so that the shop is organized and clean. I am a bit of a clutter-bug, and the shop does seem to get messed up pretty quickly, but I already feel alot better about the layout and general shop set up. All in all, so far, I am *very* satisfied with the saw. The stops for 90 and 45 are dead on, the adjustments are nice'n smooth and I am looking forward to jumping into all of the projects after I finish cleaning things up. I'll post again after I've made some more cuts, and let everyone know what I paid for it. As for Mike in Mystic and his lowball guess.... watch your back! hehehhe - oh - and thanks to everyone for your offers to "take the saw off of my hands" to see that it recieves a full inspection. All in all, a selfless act that even now has me choking back tears. John Moorhead Lakeport, CA |
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Follow up on purchase of used General 350 Table Saw - not the gloat vote, yet!
There was a used General 350 in the Bay Area for sale, and I didn't know
about it? Hmmph!! Where'd you see the ad? Brian. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:gzvBb.494609$Fm2.475865@attbi_s04... Folks - As I mentioned last week, SWMBO and I went to the SF Bay Area last week and amont other things, purchased a General Table Saw and accessories. I'll tell you what all I paid for the package in my next post, but here's a progress report on setting up the saw and *making room for it* in the sho...er, garage... It was a fairly easy process loading and unloading the saw with a big hand truck, like they use for loading refrigerators... We laid the saw on the truck on its' side to load it and then stood it up - it was easier than I thought and the truck (small nissan) handled the load okay. I was afraid of the truck being top heavy and had given thought to taking off the top and removing the motor to lower the center of gravity. No need... Unloading was simple and I was able to crab-walk it and tip it into the mobile base without trouble. The problem is that the saw sat lower than my bench, which I had set up as an outfeed table for the contractor saw I had been using. I pulled the saw back out and built up a plywood frame to raise the saw a bit over 2 inches leaving it about 1/4 inch higher than my bench. While I had the saw off of the base, I was considering removing the top to do a "full tilt" job of cleaning, adjusting and lubing everything "under the hood" - SWMBO talked me out of it and said I should just lube it up and RUN it to see how it was without adjustments, and then IF it needed tweaking, I could do so.... Then she started rattling off all of the projects that are supposed to be done by Kwanzaa, er, Christmas... I figured then I could do a "before and after" after the holidays, so I just sprayed some chain lube on the trunion gears and worm shaft bearings. I built an extension table and mounted the Biesemeyer 50" commercial fence, but discovered that the fence had been mounted about 1/16 too low, so I shimmed up the rectangular tube that bolts to the angle that mounts to the saw proper. The fence had been adjusted to "heel out" at the back by almost 1/4 inch, but the adjustments were a snap. I didn't use a feeler guage or dial indicator to set the heel to start, I just aligned it even with the miter slot and then nudged the allen screw adjustment a tad to heel the fence out in the back just a smidgen. Until I got the extension legs mounted the saw was pretty tippy in the HTC mobile base and I had some lingering thoughts about its' 3 point wheel set up. As soon as I mounted the extension legs the whole assembly firmed up nicely, so it wasn't a problem. I rewired my power outlet to match the saw power plug and FIRED IT UP.... Whoooeeeeee! The Forrest WWII cut through some oak like butter and the cut was very clean - there were just the faintest crosshatch blade marks on the cut (after I highlighted them with some chalk) so the fence seems like it is aligned okay. I cut a couple of 24" squares of MDF for jig componeents and they were dead on square; not within a 1/8, 1/16 or 1/32... They were EXACTLY the same across the diagonals... It was SO nice after having put up with a contractor's saw for so long. I think the trunions on the General 350 weigh more than the whole saw I had been using. The big problem has been making room for the bigger saw and table in the shop. I've been working for the last two days organising, ****-canning and moving things about so that the shop is organized and clean. I am a bit of a clutter-bug, and the shop does seem to get messed up pretty quickly, but I already feel alot better about the layout and general shop set up. All in all, so far, I am *very* satisfied with the saw. The stops for 90 and 45 are dead on, the adjustments are nice'n smooth and I am looking forward to jumping into all of the projects after I finish cleaning things up. I'll post again after I've made some more cuts, and let everyone know what I paid for it. As for Mike in Mystic and his lowball guess.... watch your back! hehehhe - oh - and thanks to everyone for your offers to "take the saw off of my hands" to see that it recieves a full inspection. All in all, a selfless act that even now has me choking back tears. John Moorhead Lakeport, CA |
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Follow up on purchase of used General 350 Table Saw - not the gloat vote, yet!
Brian -
On a lark, I decided to keep an eye on the "for sale" section of Craig's List (http:www.craigslist.com) and did searches in the Bay Area, Socal, Sacto and on up to Oregon/Washington... As of a few days ago there was a Jet listed for sale, FWIW.... I also know of a Uni for sale in Stockton/Molesto area as of last week... FYI John "Brian" wrote in message ... There was a used General 350 in the Bay Area for sale, and I didn't know about it? Hmmph!! Where'd you see the ad? Brian. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:gzvBb.494609$Fm2.475865@attbi_s04... Folks - As I mentioned last week, SWMBO and I went to the SF Bay Area last week and amont other things, purchased a General Table Saw and accessories. I'll tell you what all I paid for the package in my next post, but here's a progress report on setting up the saw and *making room for it* in the sho...er, garage... It was a fairly easy process loading and unloading the saw with a big hand truck, like they use for loading refrigerators... We laid the saw on the truck on its' side to load it and then stood it up - it was easier than I thought and the truck (small nissan) handled the load okay. I was afraid of the truck being top heavy and had given thought to taking off the top and removing the motor to lower the center of gravity. No need... Unloading was simple and I was able to crab-walk it and tip it into the mobile base without trouble. The problem is that the saw sat lower than my bench, which I had set up as an outfeed table for the contractor saw I had been using. I pulled the saw back out and built up a plywood frame to raise the saw a bit over 2 inches leaving it about 1/4 inch higher than my bench. While I had the saw off of the base, I was considering removing the top to do a "full tilt" job of cleaning, adjusting and lubing everything "under the hood" - SWMBO talked me out of it and said I should just lube it up and RUN it to see how it was without adjustments, and then IF it needed tweaking, I could do so.... Then she started rattling off all of the projects that are supposed to be done by Kwanzaa, er, Christmas... I figured then I could do a "before and after" after the holidays, so I just sprayed some chain lube on the trunion gears and worm shaft bearings. I built an extension table and mounted the Biesemeyer 50" commercial fence, but discovered that the fence had been mounted about 1/16 too low, so I shimmed up the rectangular tube that bolts to the angle that mounts to the saw proper. The fence had been adjusted to "heel out" at the back by almost 1/4 inch, but the adjustments were a snap. I didn't use a feeler guage or dial indicator to set the heel to start, I just aligned it even with the miter slot and then nudged the allen screw adjustment a tad to heel the fence out in the back just a smidgen. Until I got the extension legs mounted the saw was pretty tippy in the HTC mobile base and I had some lingering thoughts about its' 3 point wheel set up. As soon as I mounted the extension legs the whole assembly firmed up nicely, so it wasn't a problem. I rewired my power outlet to match the saw power plug and FIRED IT UP.... Whoooeeeeee! The Forrest WWII cut through some oak like butter and the cut was very clean - there were just the faintest crosshatch blade marks on the cut (after I highlighted them with some chalk) so the fence seems like it is aligned okay. I cut a couple of 24" squares of MDF for jig componeents and they were dead on square; not within a 1/8, 1/16 or 1/32... They were EXACTLY the same across the diagonals... It was SO nice after having put up with a contractor's saw for so long. I think the trunions on the General 350 weigh more than the whole saw I had been using. The big problem has been making room for the bigger saw and table in the shop. I've been working for the last two days organising, ****-canning and moving things about so that the shop is organized and clean. I am a bit of a clutter-bug, and the shop does seem to get messed up pretty quickly, but I already feel alot better about the layout and general shop set up. All in all, so far, I am *very* satisfied with the saw. The stops for 90 and 45 are dead on, the adjustments are nice'n smooth and I am looking forward to jumping into all of the projects after I finish cleaning things up. I'll post again after I've made some more cuts, and let everyone know what I paid for it. As for Mike in Mystic and his lowball guess.... watch your back! hehehhe - oh - and thanks to everyone for your offers to "take the saw off of my hands" to see that it recieves a full inspection. All in all, a selfless act that even now has me choking back tears. John Moorhead Lakeport, CA |
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Follow up on purchase of used General 350 Table Saw - not the gloat vote, yet!
Great find John, enjoy the 350. Which type of dust chute did you get? I
have a 350 and modified the base for better extraction. The original dust port was in the molded motor cover. Defiantly an after thought by some really clueless engineer. My saw was new but now it is well used and I am still very happy with it. |
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Follow up on purchase of used General 350 Table Saw - not the gloat vote, yet!
"john moorhead" wrote in message news:b1yBb.487676$HS4.3748531@attbi_s01... Brian - On a lark, I decided to keep an eye on the "for sale" section of Craig's List (http:www.craigslist.com) and did searches in the Bay Area, Socal, Sacto and on up to Oregon/Washington... As of a few days ago there was a Jet listed for sale, FWIW.... I also know of a Uni for sale in Stockton/Molesto area as of last week... FYI John Forward the info on the Uni in Stockton to me, if you could. Use my email (reverse oohay) if you'd like. Thanks. Brian. |
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