Hi, I bought a couple of old chisels over the weekend with missing handles,
They have a socket on the end where I can insert some new ones.

I've made some wooden handles that fit nicely and they will probably pound
on quite snugly, but probably not snug enough that they will always stay in
forever. The sockets had some glue residue left in them that I scraped out.

Question: do other people glue theirs? - I'm leaning that way. If I do glue,
what type should I use? Surely woodglue won't work for wood to metal. Any
suggestions?

-thanks!

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:00:38 -0400, "NOSPAM"
wrote:

Hi, I bought a couple of old chisels over the weekend with missing handles,
They have a socket on the end where I can insert some new ones.

I've made some wooden handles that fit nicely and they will probably pound
on quite snugly, but probably not snug enough that they will always stay in
forever. The sockets had some glue residue left in them that I scraped out.

Question: do other people glue theirs? - I'm leaning that way. If I do glue,
what type should I use? Surely woodglue won't work for wood to metal. Any
suggestions?

-thanks!


epoxy

On Apr 15, 6:00*am, "NOSPAM" wrote:
Hi, I bought a couple of old chisels over the weekend with missing handles,
They have a socket on the end where I can insert some new ones.

I've made some wooden handles that fit nicely and they will probably pound
on quite snugly, but probably not snug enough that they will always stay in
forever. The sockets had some glue residue left in them that I scraped out..

Question: do other people glue theirs? - I'm leaning that way. If I do glue,
what type should I use? Surely woodglue won't work for wood to metal. Any
suggestions?

-thanks!

I would use an epoxy, made sure u clamp it tight.. I would use a hour
epoxy and let it dry over night

Randy
http://nokeswoodworks.com

On 15 Apr, 12:00, "NOSPAM" wrote:

I've made some wooden handles that fit nicely and they will probably pound
on quite snugly, but probably not snug enough that they will always stay in
forever.

Couple of hundred years do you?

Don't glue them, just fit them properly. This may involve "hot
drilling" the holes to get a good fit, heating the chisel tang up and
then pounding it in.

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:00:38 -0400, "NOSPAM" wrote:

Hi, I bought a couple of old chisels over the weekend with missing handles,
They have a socket on the end where I can insert some new ones.

I've made some wooden handles that fit nicely and they will probably pound
on quite snugly, but probably not snug enough that they will always stay in
forever. The sockets had some glue residue left in them that I scraped out.

Question: do other people glue theirs? - I'm leaning that way. If I do glue,
what type should I use? Surely woodglue won't work for wood to metal. Any
suggestions?

-thanks!

My only info on this was an old magazine article on re-fitting handles, but they
were using epoxy to seat/glue the handles in..

As I recall, they had the handles "hole up" in a vise and were applying a bit of
epoxy to the tang just before sliding it into the handle and seating it with a
few taps from a mallet before the epoxy set..


mac

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On Apr 15, 5:54 am, Andy Dingley wrote:
On 15 Apr, 12:00, "NOSPAM" wrote:

I've made some wooden handles that fit nicely and they will probably pound
on quite snugly, but probably not snug enough that they will always stay in
forever.

Couple of hundred years do you?

Don't glue them, just fit them properly. This may involve "hot
drilling" the holes to get a good fit, heating the chisel tang up and
then pounding it in.

I agree. Also, epoxy is brittle, and repeated pounding on the chisel
handle will eventually break the epoxy, and you'll be back to square
one. If you take your time you can make a handle that fits properly
without glue, and will only get tighter the more you use it.

Another thing to consider is that if you get your handle wet in the
tang. it will swell and crush the fibers, thus irrevocably loosening
the handle. So keep those chisels safe from water!

NOSPAM wrote:
Hi, I bought a couple of old chisels over the weekend with missing handles,
They have a socket on the end where I can insert some new ones.

Question: do other people glue theirs? - I'm leaning that way. If I do glue,
what type should I use? Surely woodglue won't work for wood to metal. Any
suggestions?

Don't glue it. If you use epoxy then the next round of handles will be
that much harder to fit because of bits of epoxy left in the socket.

Fit it well, and make the handle "tenon" a bit shorter than the socket
depth, so that as you pound on the handle it can sink in deeper into the
hole rather than bottoming out.

You should be able to see the high spots if you twist the handle around
and then hold it up at an angle to the light. The high spots will be
sort of shiny.

Chris

On 15 Apr, 14:49, mac davis wrote:

My only info on this was an old magazine article on re-fitting handles, but they
were using epoxy to seat/glue the handles in..

I used to read and believe magazines until I wrote for magazines.

On Apr 15, 10:43 am, Chris Friesen wrote:
NOSPAM wrote:
Hi, I bought a couple of old chisels over the weekend with missing handles,
They have a socket on the end where I can insert some new ones.
Question: do other people glue theirs? - I'm leaning that way. If I do glue,
what type should I use? Surely woodglue won't work for wood to metal. Any
suggestions?

Don't glue it. If you use epoxy then the next round of handles will be
that much harder to fit because of bits of epoxy left in the socket.

Fit it well, and make the handle "tenon" a bit shorter than the socket
depth, so that as you pound on the handle it can sink in deeper into the
hole rather than bottoming out.

You should be able to see the high spots if you twist the handle around
and then hold it up at an angle to the light. The high spots will be
sort of shiny.

Chris

Like he said. That's the traditional way to do it, and if you use
actually use your chisels the pounding action will tighten the bond.

If you're totally intent on using an adhesive, there is nothing,
repeat nothing, that will hold like 3M 5200 caulk.
http://www.amazon.com/3M-5200-MARINE...280167&sr=8-10
It takes a long time to cure, but once it's set, you're not taking it
apart without destroying the handle and it'll hold up to pounding
better than epoxy. You can get small tubes of the stuff, enough for a
bench set, at your local marine store. If you don't live near the
water...why?!

R

On Apr 15, 7:54 am, Andy Dingley wrote:

Don't glue them, just fit them properly. This may involve "hot
drilling" the holes to get a good fit, heating the chisel tang up and
then pounding it in.

Exactly. Sometimes, the old ways are the best. And in fact, fitting
the handle in as perfectly as possible was exactly how the tool handle
was designed to be installed.

They were made to be replaced as needed when they were designed "X"
hundred years ago. The closer the fit, the less movement you have
inside the socket, so the less chance of splitting the handle.

Until he went to his great reward, I had a friend that restored large
chisels and slicks of all sorts. He always fitted as closely as
possible, then heated up the tangs or sockets and forced the metal and
wood together. Then he polished them up perfectly, honed them, and
hung them in his display case, never to be used.

He did have his beaters, though. He handled those the same way.

If you can't find the handles with the split rings on them, check here
(if you aren't making them).

http://tinyurl.com/6jfjpc

Robert