DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

Thanks.

JP

"Ancient Yankee Secret"
Don't know what part of the country you're in, but get yourself and ice
chipper, the kind you use to break up ice on a sidewalk, or maybe the tool
used to remove asphalt roofing shingles. Put a couple six packs in the
fridge and have at it. Especially if you're not saving the carpet.

Dave

"Jay Pique" wrote in message
...
DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

Thanks.

JP

agreed. also a couple of spade shovels would help as well.

"David Babcock" wrote in message
news:AV1Bb.466218$Tr4.1288493@attbi_s03...
"Ancient Yankee Secret"
Don't know what part of the country you're in, but get yourself and ice
chipper, the kind you use to break up ice on a sidewalk, or maybe the tool
used to remove asphalt roofing shingles. Put a couple six packs in the
fridge and have at it. Especially if you're not saving the carpet.

Dave

"Jay Pique" wrote in message
...
DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

Thanks.

JP

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:46:24 GMT, "David Babcock" wrote:

"Jay Pique" wrote...
DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

"Ancient Yankee Secret"
Don't know what part of the country you're in, but get yourself and ice
chipper, the kind you use to break up ice on a sidewalk, or maybe the tool
used to remove asphalt roofing shingles. Put a couple six packs in the
fridge and have at it. Especially if you're not saving the carpet.

Definitely not saving the carpet. Definitely familiar with ice
chippers and beer. Gives me a nice excuse to go get some more
Oomegang....

JP
*******************
Skaneatelean.

Jay Pique wrote...
DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

Burn it out!









Yes, I'm just kidding. I suppose I have to give a suggestion now, though.
Carpet adhesive is pretty similar to contact cement -- I think. Anyway,
mineral spirits cleans up contact cement pretty well. I'd peel up the
carpet, try some odorless mineral spirits on a small area and go from
there. Use adequate ventilation, etc.

Cheers!

Jim

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:17:19 -0500, Jay Pique
wrote:

DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

Depending on the glue a long handled scraper (spud) works followed by
a wire cup brush on an angle grinder to clean the concrete. It's a lot
of work no matter how you approach it.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

What i found works better than the heavy Ice chippers is what the ceramic
tile guys use and also the carpet folks.
It is like the ice chipper they just call it a floor scraper it is only
about 4" wide and has disposable blades
There like razor blades that you would scrape paint off your window.
When doing some ceramic tile in the house a friend that does it for a living
pulled it out to clean up some old thinset and I said Yah right, well he
made me eat my words it scrapes that **** right down to the slab real good.
Picked one up next trip to HD for when i have to tear the Kitchen tile up
and replace it with the new stuff that is holding down my Garage floor from
getting up and running down the street.
You'll Find it is the Ceramic tile tool section.

Oh ya ya still need the six packs these scrapers do not work without the
proper lubricant

Have Fun,
George

"Jay Pique" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:46:24 GMT, "David Babcock" wrote:

"Jay Pique" wrote...
DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

"Ancient Yankee Secret"
Don't know what part of the country you're in, but get yourself and ice
chipper, the kind you use to break up ice on a sidewalk, or maybe the
tool
used to remove asphalt roofing shingles. Put a couple six packs in the
fridge and have at it. Especially if you're not saving the carpet.

Definitely not saving the carpet. Definitely familiar with ice
chippers and beer. Gives me a nice excuse to go get some more
Oomegang....

JP
*******************
Skaneatelean.

In article ,
Jay Pique wrote:
DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

Dynammite?


Just kidding (sort of!).


Seriously, there's only one reliable way -- brute-force "impact engineering".

A coal-shovel, and a 'flat' hoe ( I dunno exactly what they're called, the
one with a 5' or so handle, with what looks like an oversize putty knive on
the end), are a good start.

Maybe a 'carborundum concrete-sanding brick' for final smoothing.

UPDATE: Went to orangeborg today to see what retail therapy they
could provide, and had my choice of two options. The first was a
floor scraper that was a full 14" wide. It had a wooden handle with a
stamped steel base into which a flimsy piece of low grade steel was
screwed as a scraping blade - price: $19.00. A bit further down the
aisle was another floor scraper - this one at $29.00. Must be
better....right?

Right-o indeed! This thing is EXACTLY what I was looking for. It's
made in Taiwan for Q.E.P. Co., Inc. (Boca Raton, FL) and the sticker
says it's an "8" ADJ. RAZOR FLOOR SCRAPER WITH BLADE". It has a
two-piece heavy steel handle that is adjustable from 4' to 8' long
using a simple twist lock. The head is a two-piece cast steel unit
into which nests a eight inch long "high carbon steel" blade and
secured with good sized machine screws. That's it.

This sucker is nice and solid - and really works. I was a bit
concerned that the twist lock mechanism wouldn't hold up under stress,
but after using it for a bit I get the sense it will last *forever*.
And the adjustability feature is actually fantastic. When I'm in
tighter areas like closets I shrink it down for detail work, and for
open spaces I open it up and let her rip! I think the heft really
helps because it carries a bit of momentum to help blast through the
crud. The only downside initially was that the included blade came
not only unsharpened - but fully rounded over. I took care of that
with my new Veritas scraper Jointer/Edger and an 8" mill file,
although I have to say it worked pretty well even prior to sharpening.

It doesn't get every last bit of glue up - there's definitely a thin
layer left unless you really go nuts on an area - but it appears that
it gets enough such that a bit of mastic remover will make quick work
of the rest. I'll let you know when I reach that stage.

Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction George!!! If
you're in Central New York, stop by and I'll give you one of the
six-packs from the fridge.

JP
*****************************
Top posting feels weird.

PS - Don't get *too* excited, it's still VERY labor intensive.






On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:14:26 -0700, "George M. Kazaka"
wrote:

What i found works better than the heavy Ice chippers is what the ceramic
tile guys use and also the carpet folks.
It is like the ice chipper they just call it a floor scraper it is only
about 4" wide and has disposable blades
There like razor blades that you would scrape paint off your window.
When doing some ceramic tile in the house a friend that does it for a living
pulled it out to clean up some old thinset and I said Yah right, well he
made me eat my words it scrapes that **** right down to the slab real good.
Picked one up next trip to HD for when i have to tear the Kitchen tile up
and replace it with the new stuff that is holding down my Garage floor from
getting up and running down the street.
You'll Find it is the Ceramic tile tool section.

Oh ya ya still need the six packs these scrapers do not work without the
proper lubricant

Have Fun,
George

"Jay Pique" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:46:24 GMT, "David Babcock" wrote:

"Jay Pique" wrote...
DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

"Ancient Yankee Secret"
Don't know what part of the country you're in, but get yourself and ice
chipper, the kind you use to break up ice on a sidewalk, or maybe the
tool
used to remove asphalt roofing shingles. Put a couple six packs in the
fridge and have at it. Especially if you're not saving the carpet.

Definitely not saving the carpet. Definitely familiar with ice
chippers and beer. Gives me a nice excuse to go get some more
Oomegang....

JP
*******************
Skaneatelean.

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:17:19 -0500, Jay Pique
wrote:

Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

Fein Multimaster, with the oscillating scraper blade. It does the
asphaltum paint found around the borders of 1930's UK sittting rooms
too.

But it's not yet made in China, so you'll have to wait a year or so
until they clone it for a tenth of the price.

--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:17:19 -0500, Jay Pique
wrote:

Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

Fein Multimaster, with the oscillating scraper blade. It does the
asphaltum paint found around the borders of 1930's UK sittting rooms
too.

But it's not yet made in China, so you'll have to wait a year or so
until they clone it for a tenth of the price.

--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods

I've seen pneumatic floor scrapers that have a long handle and a blade with
an impact hammer type action. You can do the job standing up which has a lot
going for it right there! They were relatively cheap... $40-$50 as I recall.
Harbor Freight, NE Hydraulic, or one of those type catalogs and I believe it
was made in China!

John

When I got to the glue, I rented a floor sander ( $25 and worth every cent) and
used a medium to coarse sandpaper to get it up. Worked great. Also gets
remaining foam backing off that you may have missed or given up on.

Jay Pique wrote:

DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

Any idea what kind of glue they used?

I had berber glued to the floor tiles in both bathrooms. It was stuck down
with some kind of yellow goop that dissolved when the kids got a toy car
stuck in the toilet, backed it up, and flooded the floor.

Cheap to try. Pour a bucket of water on it and see what happens after half
an hour. Especially if you're getting rid of the carpet anyway.

Watch the baseboards!

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:33:37 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

I've seen pneumatic floor scrapers that have a long handle and a blade with
an impact hammer type action.

Different thing. The Fein rotates over a small arc from side to side,
not back and forth.

It's also cheaper in Antrim than in England (I've no idea why).

--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods

On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 01:29:57 -0500, Silvan
scribbled

Jay Pique wrote:

DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

Any idea what kind of glue they used?

I had berber glued to the floor tiles in both bathrooms. It was stuck down
with some kind of yellow goop that dissolved when the kids got a toy car
stuck in the toilet, backed it up, and flooded the floor.

Cheap to try. Pour a bucket of water on it and see what happens after half
an hour. Especially if you're getting rid of the carpet anyway.

I second the suggestions. In 1976, I worked on taking apart the
carpeted floor at the Université de Montréal's arena that had been
used for the Olympic fencing competitions. Water and ice scrapers
easily got the carpet off. ****ed of the maintenance staff, since the
carpet had been glued to the removable wooden floors they put on top
of the concrete surface.

Luigi
Replace "no" with "yk" for real email address

Even though I said that I don't drink beer,
I'm glad it helped I think with that thin blade and somewhat sharp edge it
kind gets down to where the glue and concrete join and you are able to get
under the glue, those ice breakers have a heavy blade and do not ge3t under
it,
I think that is why it works on the thinset also,
Where in Central NY , My Kid brother lives just outside of Syracuse
I've traveled most areas of NY when i was back east.


"Jay Pique" wrote in message
news
UPDATE: Went to orangeborg today to see what retail therapy they
could provide, and had my choice of two options. The first was a
floor scraper that was a full 14" wide. It had a wooden handle with a
stamped steel base into which a flimsy piece of low grade steel was
screwed as a scraping blade - price: $19.00. A bit further down the
aisle was another floor scraper - this one at $29.00. Must be
better....right?

Right-o indeed! This thing is EXACTLY what I was looking for. It's
made in Taiwan for Q.E.P. Co., Inc. (Boca Raton, FL) and the sticker
says it's an "8" ADJ. RAZOR FLOOR SCRAPER WITH BLADE". It has a
two-piece heavy steel handle that is adjustable from 4' to 8' long
using a simple twist lock. The head is a two-piece cast steel unit
into which nests a eight inch long "high carbon steel" blade and
secured with good sized machine screws. That's it.

This sucker is nice and solid - and really works. I was a bit
concerned that the twist lock mechanism wouldn't hold up under stress,
but after using it for a bit I get the sense it will last *forever*.
And the adjustability feature is actually fantastic. When I'm in
tighter areas like closets I shrink it down for detail work, and for
open spaces I open it up and let her rip! I think the heft really
helps because it carries a bit of momentum to help blast through the
crud. The only downside initially was that the included blade came
not only unsharpened - but fully rounded over. I took care of that
with my new Veritas scraper Jointer/Edger and an 8" mill file,
although I have to say it worked pretty well even prior to sharpening.

It doesn't get every last bit of glue up - there's definitely a thin
layer left unless you really go nuts on an area - but it appears that
it gets enough such that a bit of mastic remover will make quick work
of the rest. I'll let you know when I reach that stage.

Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction George!!! If
you're in Central New York, stop by and I'll give you one of the
six-packs from the fridge.

JP
*****************************
Top posting feels weird.

PS - Don't get *too* excited, it's still VERY labor intensive.






On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:14:26 -0700, "George M. Kazaka"
wrote:

What i found works better than the heavy Ice chippers is what the ceramic
tile guys use and also the carpet folks.
It is like the ice chipper they just call it a floor scraper it is only
about 4" wide and has disposable blades
There like razor blades that you would scrape paint off your window.
When doing some ceramic tile in the house a friend that does it for a
living
pulled it out to clean up some old thinset and I said Yah right, well he
made me eat my words it scrapes that **** right down to the slab real
good.
Picked one up next trip to HD for when i have to tear the Kitchen tile up
and replace it with the new stuff that is holding down my Garage floor
from
getting up and running down the street.
You'll Find it is the Ceramic tile tool section.

Oh ya ya still need the six packs these scrapers do not work without the
proper lubricant

Have Fun,
George

"Jay Pique" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:46:24 GMT, "David Babcock" wrote:

"Jay Pique" wrote...
DAGS, no real luck other than "try citrus based solvents" or "hire a
professional". Anyone here have any ancient Chinese secrets for
getting this stuff off?

"Ancient Yankee Secret"
Don't know what part of the country you're in, but get yourself and
ice
chipper, the kind you use to break up ice on a sidewalk, or maybe the
tool
used to remove asphalt roofing shingles. Put a couple six packs in the
fridge and have at it. Especially if you're not saving the carpet.

Definitely not saving the carpet. Definitely familiar with ice
chippers and beer. Gives me a nice excuse to go get some more
Oomegang....

JP
*******************
Skaneatelean.

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:16:20 -0700, "George M. Kazaka"
wrote:

Even though I said that I don't drink beer,
snip

Scotch? obscure Caddyshack reference

Where in Central NY , My Kid brother lives just outside of Syracuse
I've traveled most areas of NY when i was back east.

Skaneateles.

JP

Yes back in my drinking days Scotch on the rocks hold the rocks
I'm sure I'll have to learn how to pronounce it before they let me ride down
main street G

"Jay Pique" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:16:20 -0700, "George M. Kazaka"
wrote:

Even though I said that I don't drink beer,
snip

Scotch? obscure Caddyshack reference

Where in Central NY , My Kid brother lives just outside of Syracuse
I've traveled most areas of NY when i was back east.

Skaneateles.

JP

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:57:18 -0700, "George M. Kazaka"
wrote:

Yes back in my drinking days Scotch on the rocks hold the rocks
I'm sure I'll have to learn how to pronounce it before they let me ride down
main street G

Har! Just don't call it Skuh-neetle-us and you'll be fine. I can't
believe they even let me come back, to be honest with you - man oh MAN
has this place gotten ritzy! Good luck getting_anything_on the lake
for less than a million bucks. It's absurd, really.

JP
**************
Skinny-atlas, or "Skanny-attle-uhs" if you just bought one of the
aforementioned million dollar "summer homes". That way we'll know to
be extra nice to you!!


Where in Central NY , My Kid brother lives just outside of Syracuse
I've traveled most areas of NY when i was back east.

Skaneateles.

JP

Jay Pique wrote:

Har! Just don't call it Skuh-neetle-us and you'll be fine. I can't
believe they even let me come back, to be honest with you - man oh MAN
has this place gotten ritzy! Good luck getting_anything_on the lake
for less than a million bucks. It's absurd, really.

It sure it a pretty area though! I love the old mansions.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

I just looked it up, you are only 22 miles from Syracuse
you mean there are people there.
It doesn't matter to much where you are waterfront property just gets more
money than anywhere else,
I know that there are some real run down places on the Ole Miss I wonder if
they have high prices.

Did ya get any of that white stuff they was showing on TV It was purty
The only thing i get to shovel off my walkway is sunshine,
Damn stuff no matter how much i shovel it keeps piling up G


"Jay Pique" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:57:18 -0700, "George M. Kazaka"
wrote:

Yes back in my drinking days Scotch on the rocks hold the rocks
I'm sure I'll have to learn how to pronounce it before they let me ride
down
main street G

Har! Just don't call it Skuh-neetle-us and you'll be fine. I can't
believe they even let me come back, to be honest with you - man oh MAN
has this place gotten ritzy! Good luck getting_anything_on the lake
for less than a million bucks. It's absurd, really.

JP
**************
Skinny-atlas, or "Skanny-attle-uhs" if you just bought one of the
aforementioned million dollar "summer homes". That way we'll know to
be extra nice to you!!


Where in Central NY , My Kid brother lives just outside of Syracuse
I've traveled most areas of NY when i was back east.

Skaneateles.

JP