How does one get a straight answer on which brand of woodworking equipment
is better than another? Is this the age old woodworking question? By
better I mean quality, reliability, functionality... Maybe there is no real
answer to this questions because it tool specific. One brand of router is
better than another but the same brands table saw is not as good. I've
found this question/answer to be person specific. A friend will buy Delta
but wouldn't touch Craftsman. My wife and I are looking for a jointer.
Our hunt has taken us all over town. Woodworking shops, Sears, Lowes... .
While in Home Depot looking for some track lights we ran into a friend who
works there. He talked to us for 10 minutes about how good Rigid is. On
the way out to the car my wife said one of her woodworking friends said
never/ever buy Rigid. Why? Can it really be that poorly made. The way I
see it is if it's that bad (name your manufacture) they would not be in
business. Which brings me back to my question. My wife and I figure the
best way to go about buying equipment is to listen to what others say, read
up on what the manufactures say and buy what we feel is best for us.

Rick and Debbee

BTW, we just started on filling our garage with woodworking equipment after
going to a friends house to use their stuff for the last 6 months. We
bought the Jet lathe we are building a router table. The Delta band saw,
and Craftsmen table saw are on extended loan from a friend who felt the need
to upgrade their equipment.

I'd say its a combination of;

1. Personal Opinion (with no experience of a particular tool - people basing
their opinion on brand name only)
2. Personal Opinion (after having actually owned and used a particular tool)
3. The fact that some companies sell a really good product, yet the next one
they sell isnt so good (as you mention)
4. The belief by some that ALL cheap tools must be garbage.
5. The belief by others that all Expensive tools must be better?
6. Pot Luck
7. The potential for particular brands to blow up all the time

Its really a mixed bag. Certainly its worth listening to what others
experiences have been like, but I wouldn't judge a purchase on that alone.


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"razingkane" wrote in message
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How does one get a straight answer on which brand of woodworking equipment
is better than another? Is this the age old woodworking question? By
better I mean quality, reliability, functionality... Maybe there is no
real
answer to this questions because it tool specific. One brand of router is
better than another but the same brands table saw is not as good. I've
found this question/answer to be person specific. A friend will buy Delta
but wouldn't touch Craftsman. My wife and I are looking for a jointer.
Our hunt has taken us all over town. Woodworking shops, Sears, Lowes... .
While in Home Depot looking for some track lights we ran into a friend who
works there. He talked to us for 10 minutes about how good Rigid is. On
the way out to the car my wife said one of her woodworking friends said
never/ever buy Rigid. Why? Can it really be that poorly made. The way I
see it is if it's that bad (name your manufacture) they would not be in
business. Which brings me back to my question. My wife and I figure the
best way to go about buying equipment is to listen to what others say,
read
up on what the manufactures say and buy what we feel is best for us.

Rick and Debbee

BTW, we just started on filling our garage with woodworking equipment
after
going to a friends house to use their stuff for the last 6 months. We
bought the Jet lathe we are building a router table. The Delta band saw,
and Craftsmen table saw are on extended loan from a friend who felt the
need
to upgrade their equipment.

everyone has their own favorite tools. that's the way it is. different
strokes, and all that jazz. Your best bet is to see if the comments
people make about a tool reflect your particular concerns. sometimes a
feature for one person is irrelevant to someone else. Sometimes a
comment will strike a chord with you, alerting you to a potential
clunker, or perhaps a superior product. In the end, you should look the
various contenders over and try them out if at all possible. Even if
all you can do is plug them in and turn the knobs, and make a few
adjustments, you'll get a 'feel' for the tool.

Does it do what you want "better" than another tool (assuming you are
willing to foot the bill), or is a cheaper alternative just as functional?

Pick any tool category; there will be disagreement as to what is "best".
REading tool reviews is helpful, but shouldn't be the basis for a
decision. I respect what the reviewer's comments are, but I take it all
with a grain of salt. I used to live in Missouri, so you gotta "show me".

I've bought specific brands or models for a variety of reasons. For
example I bought a Fein vacuum mostly because it is quiet. It's
expensive, but it's quiet. Would a model costing 1/4 as much suck as
much? You betcha! Would I like the noisier model? No frickin' way!

Some tools, while the work well, are overly complicated to use. For
some, it's no big deal, for others, a hassle.

You pays your money, and you takes your chances.

Ask ME about Craftsmen and I'll rant on and on about how much I think
they suck. I think I earned the right to badmouth them because I've
owned several of their POS. A few diehards (now I know why Sears calls
their batteries Diehards) here will defend to the death the wondrous
virtues of their favorite Sears tool. I don't mind SOME of their hand
tools; it's the powered equipment I don't like. As a professional
mechanic, I also shunned Craftsmen hand tools for Snap-On and Mac tools.
For the handyman, Sears hand tools are more than adequate, but for
working 8-12 hours a day with a wrench in your hand, give me the others.

Buying anything sight unseen goes against my grain, but in the case of
the Veritas planes, I'm making a notable exception! g

dave

razingkane wrote:

How does one get a straight answer on which brand of woodworking equipment
is better than another? Is this the age old woodworking question? By
better I mean quality, reliability, functionality... Maybe there is no real
answer to this questions because it tool specific. One brand of router is
better than another but the same brands table saw is not as good. I've
found this question/answer to be person specific. A friend will buy Delta
but wouldn't touch Craftsman. My wife and I are looking for a jointer.
Our hunt has taken us all over town. Woodworking shops, Sears, Lowes... .
While in Home Depot looking for some track lights we ran into a friend who
works there. He talked to us for 10 minutes about how good Rigid is. On
the way out to the car my wife said one of her woodworking friends said
never/ever buy Rigid. Why? Can it really be that poorly made. The way I
see it is if it's that bad (name your manufacture) they would not be in
business. Which brings me back to my question. My wife and I figure the
best way to go about buying equipment is to listen to what others say, read
up on what the manufactures say and buy what we feel is best for us.

Rick and Debbee

BTW, we just started on filling our garage with woodworking equipment after
going to a friends house to use their stuff for the last 6 months. We
bought the Jet lathe we are building a router table. The Delta band saw,
and Craftsmen table saw are on extended loan from a friend who felt the need
to upgrade their equipment.

Did anyone mention things like how long the company has been in business or
making the particular product? I think experience counts, and it will carry
over to other products. How easy is it to get replacement parts? Lots of
times I choose a particular brand because the competitions units are close to
identical, but I have good luck with another tool, and I like the feel, so I
choose the same company. Nobody mentioned price. If the price is very good, I
will also jump brands, provided I like the tool and it is made well.

"razingkane" wrote in message

How does one get a straight answer on which brand of woodworking equipment
is better than another? Is this the age old woodworking question? By
better I mean quality, reliability, functionality... Maybe there is no
real
answer to this questions because it tool specific.

Simple answer. The tools I own are great, the other brands you guy have are
the ones that suck.

Although said in jest, there is a lot of truth to that statement. Where I
see cheap, another sees great value. Also, what is a good choice for the
DIY guy, is a poor decision for the pro. A good choice for a framing hammer
is a poor choice for furniture building, but thee will be someone putting
delicate trim on a cabinet with one.

I've rejected tools as unsuitable for be just because I don't like the
color. Honest, entire brands are not in my shop because I don't like the
looks, no regard for performance in the decision.

The tool has to feel comfortable in your hands. The best of tools quality
wise will not perform well if you have trouble holding it comfortably.
ED

"razingkane" wrote in message
t...
How does one get a straight answer on which brand of woodworking equipment
is better than another? Is this the age old woodworking question? By
better I mean quality, reliability, functionality... Maybe there is no
real
answer to this questions because it tool specific. One brand of router is
better than another but the same brands table saw is not as good. I've
found this question/answer to be person specific. A friend will buy Delta
but wouldn't touch Craftsman. My wife and I are looking for a jointer.
Our hunt has taken us all over town. Woodworking shops, Sears, Lowes... .
While in Home Depot looking for some track lights we ran into a friend who
works there. He talked to us for 10 minutes about how good Rigid is. On
the way out to the car my wife said one of her woodworking friends said
never/ever buy Rigid. Why? Can it really be that poorly made. The way I
see it is if it's that bad (name your manufacture) they would not be in
business. Which brings me back to my question. My wife and I figure the
best way to go about buying equipment is to listen to what others say,
read
up on what the manufactures say and buy what we feel is best for us.

Rick and Debbee

BTW, we just started on filling our garage with woodworking equipment
after
going to a friends house to use their stuff for the last 6 months. We
bought the Jet lathe we are building a router table. The Delta band saw,
and Craftsmen table saw are on extended loan from a friend who felt the
need
to upgrade their equipment.


I think that one answer is that everyone assigns value differently, and most
people assign different values to different types of tools. For some the
joy of owning "the best" has huge value. They get joy from knowing that
they have the top of the line tools. They treasure the fit and finish and
enjoy the feeling they get from controlling the tool. They don't even have
to use them to get value, but this is not to say that they don't use them.



Others put a high value on getting the lowest possible price for a
particular tool and will gladly put up with bad fit and finish, awkward
adjustments or bad ergonomics. They just want to do the job.



Some will only buy tools from a store that is local, where they can actually
touch the tools before purchasing and in many cases need to purchase the
tool for a particular job immediately and are limited to tools that are in
stock. The opposite has no problem purchasing tools via internet/mail-order
and spends lots of hours reading reviews to get the perfect tool.



Some try to buy American. Others look to how easy it is to get replacement
parts, while different group looks to buy only used tools.



Over time people develop brand preferences. If they have had a good value
from a particular brand of powered hand tool they tend to purchase more of
that brand. Sometimes it is something as simple as battery
interoperability.



I am not sure that my answer helps, but I can tell you I have a total mix of
tools. Some of the highlights:



Delta Unisaw tablesaw

Laguna sliding table

Lagugna 18" bandsaw

Jet 14" bandsaw

Delta DJ-20 Jointer

Jet 15" Planer

Penn State 2.5 Hp. Dust Collector

Jet 17" Drill Dress

Laguna slot mortiser

Delta Lathe

Performax 16-32+ drum sander

Dewalt 12 SCMS

Dewalt 12 CMS

Craftsman 30 gallon oiless compressor



I tried to get the best "value" for each tool I purchased and tend to like
the higher-end consumer tools but switched brands often.



I know that I missed a lot but other in the group will have more/better
information



Bob McBreen