Description of a 1715 era woodshop:

"The chamber, into which he stole, like all carpenters' workshops, was
crowded with the implements and materials of that ancient and honourable
art. Saws, hammers, planes, axes, augers, adzes, chisels, gimblets, and an
endless variety of tools were ranged, like a stand of martial weapons at an
armoury, in racks against the walls. Over these hung levels, bevels,
squares, and other instruments of measurement. Amid a litter of nails
without heads, screws without worms, and locks without wards, lay a glue-pot
and an oilstone, two articles which their owner was wont to term "his right
hand and his left." On a shelf was placed a row of paint-jars; the contents
of which had been daubed in rainbow streaks upon the adjacent closet and
window sill. Divers plans and figures were chalked upon the walls; and the
spaces between them were filled up with an almanack for the year; a godly
ballad, adorned Page 77with a rude wood-cut, purporting to be "The History
of Chaste Susannah;" an old print of the Seven Golden Candlesticks; an
abstract of the various Acts of Parliament against drinking, swearing, and
all manner of profaneness; and a view of the interior of Doctor Daniel
Burgess's Presbyterian meeting-house in Russell Court, with portraits of the
reverend gentleman and the principal members of his flock. The floor was
thickly strewn with sawdust and shavings; and across the room ran a long and
wide bench, furnished at one end with a powerful vice; next to which three
nails driven into the boards served, it would appear from the lump of
unconsumed tallow left in their custody, as a substitute for a candlestick."

"Jack Sheppard", by Willian Harrison Ainsworth circa 1840


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KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Jim Stuyck" wrote in message
...
I had to look up "gimblet" and found:

"A small tool for boring holes. It has a leading screw, a
grooved body, and a cross handle."

Aside from that, and the candle reference, sounds pretty
much the same as most shops, 300 years later. OK, so
maybe my "left hand" is a brad nailer... ;-)

Jim Stuyck


Looks like the 'b' has been dropped since the time of the writing.

http://www.garrettwade.com/shopping/...reeText=gimlet

jc

On Jan 22, 10:09 am, "Swingman" wrote:
Description of a 1715 era woodshop:

"The chamber, into which he stole, like all carpenters' workshops, was
crowded with the implements and materials of that ancient and honourable
art. Saws, hammers, planes, axes, augers, adzes, chisels, gimblets, and an
endless variety of tools were ranged, like a stand of martial weapons at an
armoury, in racks against the walls. Over these hung levels, bevels,
squares, and other instruments of measurement. Amid a litter of nails
without heads, screws without worms, and locks without wards, lay a glue-pot
and an oilstone, two articles which their owner was wont to term "his right
hand and his left." On a shelf was placed a row of paint-jars; the contents
of which had been daubed in rainbow streaks upon the adjacent closet and
window sill. Divers plans and figures were chalked upon the walls; and the
spaces between them were filled up with an almanack for the year; a godly
ballad, adorned Page 77with a rude wood-cut, purporting to be "The History
of Chaste Susannah;" an old print of the Seven Golden Candlesticks; an
abstract of the various Acts of Parliament against drinking, swearing, and
all manner of profaneness; and a view of the interior of Doctor Daniel
Burgess's Presbyterian meeting-house in Russell Court, with portraits of the
reverend gentleman and the principal members of his flock. The floor was
thickly strewn with sawdust and shavings; and across the room ran a long and
wide bench, furnished at one end with a powerful vice; next to which three
nails driven into the boards served, it would appear from the lump of
unconsumed tallow left in their custody, as a substitute for a candlestick."

"Jack Sheppard", by Willian Harrison Ainsworth circa 1840

Seems as if Mr. Sheppard was not a superbly moral young man, though.
Hung at Tynburn when he was 23, after bouts of whoring and drinking
and thieving and burglary. Supposed to have been a journeyman
carpenter, though.

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
On Jan 22, 10:09 am, "Swingman" wrote:
Description of a 1715 era woodshop:

"The chamber, into which he stole, like all carpenters' workshops, was
crowded with the implements and materials of that ancient and honourable
art. Saws, hammers, planes, axes, augers, adzes, chisels, gimblets, and
an
endless variety of tools were ranged, like a stand of martial weapons at
an
armoury, in racks against the walls. Over these hung levels, bevels,
squares, and other instruments of measurement. Amid a litter of nails
without heads, screws without worms, and locks without wards, lay a
glue-pot
and an oilstone, two articles which their owner was wont to term "his
right
hand and his left." On a shelf was placed a row of paint-jars; the
contents
of which had been daubed in rainbow streaks upon the adjacent closet and
window sill. Divers plans and figures were chalked upon the walls; and
the
spaces between them were filled up with an almanack for the year; a godly
ballad, adorned Page 77with a rude wood-cut, purporting to be "The
History
of Chaste Susannah;" an old print of the Seven Golden Candlesticks; an
abstract of the various Acts of Parliament against drinking, swearing,
and
all manner of profaneness; and a view of the interior of Doctor Daniel
Burgess's Presbyterian meeting-house in Russell Court, with portraits of
the
reverend gentleman and the principal members of his flock. The floor was
thickly strewn with sawdust and shavings; and across the room ran a long
and
wide bench, furnished at one end with a powerful vice; next to which
three
nails driven into the boards served, it would appear from the lump of
unconsumed tallow left in their custody, as a substitute for a
candlestick."

"Jack Sheppard", by Willian Harrison Ainsworth circa 1840

Seems as if Mr. Sheppard was not a superbly moral young man, though.
Hung at Tynburn when he was 23, after bouts of whoring and drinking
and thieving and burglary. Supposed to have been a journeyman
carpenter, though.
\
Sounds like the bench wasn't the only thing in the shop with a powerful vice
(or two, or three....)

jc

"Jim Stuyck" wrote:

I had to look up "gimblet" and found:

"A small tool for boring holes. It has a leading screw, a
grooved body, and a cross handle."

"Gimblet", a necessity in every sailor's ditty bag.

Also an absolute necessity to change out the packing in a stuffing
box.

There is more to wood working tools than just wood workinggrin

Lew

On Jan 22, 1:09*pm, Charlie Self wrote:
On Jan 22, 10:09 am, "Swingman" wrote:



Description of a 1715 era woodshop:

"The chamber, into which he stole, like all carpenters' workshops, was
crowded with the implements and materials of that ancient and honourable
art. Saws, hammers, planes, axes, augers, adzes, chisels, gimblets, and an
endless variety of tools were ranged, like a stand of martial weapons at an
armoury, in racks against the walls. Over these hung levels, bevels,
squares, and other instruments of measurement. Amid a litter of nails
without heads, screws without worms, and locks without wards, lay a glue-pot
and an oilstone, two articles which their owner was wont to term "his right
hand and his left." On a shelf was placed a row of paint-jars; the contents
of which had been daubed in rainbow streaks upon the adjacent closet and
window sill. Divers plans and figures were chalked upon the walls; and the
spaces between them were filled up with an almanack for the year; a godly
ballad, adorned Page 77with a rude wood-cut, purporting to be "The History
of Chaste Susannah;" an old print of the Seven Golden Candlesticks; an
abstract of the various Acts of Parliament against drinking, swearing, and
all manner of profaneness; and a view of the interior of Doctor Daniel
Burgess's Presbyterian meeting-house in Russell Court, with portraits of the
reverend gentleman and the principal members of his flock. The floor was
thickly strewn with sawdust and shavings; and across the room ran a long and
wide bench, furnished at one end with a powerful vice; next to which three
nails driven into the boards served, it would appear from the lump of
unconsumed tallow left in their custody, as a substitute for a candlestick."

"Jack Sheppard", by Willian Harrison Ainsworth circa 1840

Seems as if Mr. Sheppard was not a superbly moral young man, though.
Hung at Tynburn when he was 23, after bouts of whoring and drinking
and thieving and burglary. Supposed to have been a journeyman
carpenter, though.

Oh noes... is that what awaits me if I continue improving my nailing
skills?

Robatoy wrote:
On Jan 22, 1:09 pm, Charlie Self wrote:
On Jan 22, 10:09 am, "Swingman" wrote:



Description of a 1715 era woodshop:
"The chamber, into which he stole, like all carpenters' workshops, was
crowded with the implements and materials of that ancient and honourable
art. Saws, hammers, planes, axes, augers, adzes, chisels, gimblets, and an
endless variety of tools were ranged, like a stand of martial weapons at an
armoury, in racks against the walls. Over these hung levels, bevels,
squares, and other instruments of measurement. Amid a litter of nails
without heads, screws without worms, and locks without wards, lay a glue-pot
and an oilstone, two articles which their owner was wont to term "his right
hand and his left." On a shelf was placed a row of paint-jars; the contents
of which had been daubed in rainbow streaks upon the adjacent closet and
window sill. Divers plans and figures were chalked upon the walls; and the
spaces between them were filled up with an almanack for the year; a godly
ballad, adorned Page 77with a rude wood-cut, purporting to be "The History
of Chaste Susannah;" an old print of the Seven Golden Candlesticks; an
abstract of the various Acts of Parliament against drinking, swearing, and
all manner of profaneness; and a view of the interior of Doctor Daniel
Burgess's Presbyterian meeting-house in Russell Court, with portraits of the
reverend gentleman and the principal members of his flock. The floor was
thickly strewn with sawdust and shavings; and across the room ran a long and
wide bench, furnished at one end with a powerful vice; next to which three
nails driven into the boards served, it would appear from the lump of
unconsumed tallow left in their custody, as a substitute for a candlestick."
"Jack Sheppard", by Willian Harrison Ainsworth circa 1840

Seems as if Mr. Sheppard was not a superbly moral young man, though.
Hung at Tynburn when he was 23, after bouts of whoring and drinking
and thieving and burglary. Supposed to have been a journeyman
carpenter, though.

Oh noes... is that what awaits me if I continue improving my nailing
skills?

Whoring is a hanging offense?

Uh oh.

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Tanus

This is not really a sig.

http://www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/

Whoring is a hanging offense?

Uh oh.

--
Tanus

This is not really a sig.

http://www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/

Oh man is there a joke in there about getting hung.....

I'm staying away....

jc

On Jan 22, 5:49*pm, "Joe" wrote:

Oh man is there a joke in there about getting hung.....

I'm staying away....

I with you. I will never show any of my favorite westerns to anyone
but close, open minded friends I trust anymore.

I had no idea "Hang 'Em High" was based on racial hate crimes. How
about "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly", or a mountain of any other
western films or period pieces.
I am casting a suspicious eye on my Clint Eastwood and John Wayne
movies... OK, and Errol Flynn, too. What in the world were they
thinking when they made those movies 65, 70 years ago? Insensitive
*******s.

I am so happy we have revisionists around now that can tell us "the
real truth" about things. That way those that are unable to think for
themselves will have a ready path on which to be led.

Robert

On Jan 23, 3:58 am, "
wrote:
On Jan 22, 5:49 pm, "Joe" wrote:

Oh man is there a joke in there about getting hung.....

I'm staying away....

I with you. I will never show any of my favorite westerns to anyone
but close, open minded friends I trust anymore.

I had no idea "Hang 'Em High" was based on racial hate crimes. How
about "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly", or a mountain of any other
western films or period pieces.
I am casting a suspicious eye on my Clint Eastwood and John Wayne
movies... OK, and Errol Flynn, too. What in the world were they
thinking when they made those movies 65, 70 years ago? Insensitive
*******s.

I am so happy we have revisionists around now that can tell us "the
real truth" about things. That way those that are unable to think for
themselves will have a ready path on which to be led.


Where in hell did that come from? What revisionists? WTF does race
have to do with hanging a carpenter in Tyburn 400+ years ago?

I cast out my John Wayne movies decades ago, when he started talking
like he was a real hero.

"Charlie Self" wrote

Where in hell did that come from? What revisionists? WTF does race
have to do with hanging a carpenter in Tyburn 400+ years ago?

I believe it was in reference to the current political correctness backlash
with regard to the public, or private, mentioning of words like "lynch", aka
the Tiger Woods flap, or even conjuring up the mental image of a "noose",
aka Jenna, LA.

Words are extremely important to the PC ... when a "majority" marches,
they're "separatist", when a minority marches, they're "activists".

Of course, certain groups are remain a "majority" even when less than 20%
of a population, as in our local school district (maybe because they pay the
"majority" of the freight?)

While you can argue both sides of the above, inarguably Orwell was right
when coining the term "newspeak":

"It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words."

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On Jan 22, 12:20*pm, "Jim Stuyck" wrote:
I had to look up "gimblet" and found:

"A small tool for boring holes. It has a leading screw, a
grooved body, and a cross handle."

Aside from that, and the candle reference, sounds pretty
much the same as most shops, 300 years later. *OK, so
maybe my "left hand" is a brad nailer... *;-)

Jim Stuyck

"Swingman" wrote in message

...



Description of a 1715 era woodshop:

"The chamber, into which he stole, like all carpenters' workshops, was
crowded with the implements and materials of that ancient and honourable
art. Saws, hammers, planes, axes, augers, adzes, chisels, gimblets, and an
endless variety of tools were ranged, like a stand of martial weapons at
an
armoury, in racks against the walls. Over these hung levels, bevels,
squares, and other instruments of measurement. Amid a litter of nails
without heads, screws without worms, and locks without wards, lay a
glue-pot
and an oilstone, two articles which their owner was wont to term "his
right
hand and his left." On a shelf was placed a row of paint-jars; the
contents
of which had been daubed in rainbow streaks upon the adjacent closet and
window sill. Divers plans and figures were chalked upon the walls; and the
spaces between them were filled up with an almanack for the year; a godly
ballad, adorned Page 77with a rude wood-cut, purporting to be "The History
of Chaste Susannah;" an old print of the Seven Golden Candlesticks; an
abstract of the various Acts of Parliament against drinking, swearing, and
all manner of profaneness; and a view of the interior of Doctor Daniel
Burgess's Presbyterian meeting-house in Russell Court, with portraits of
the
reverend gentleman and the principal members of his flock. The floor was
thickly strewn with sawdust and shavings; and across the room ran a long
and
wide bench, furnished at one end with a powerful vice; next to which three
nails driven into the boards served, it would appear from the lump of
unconsumed tallow left in their custody, as a substitute for a
candlestick."

"Jack Sheppard", by Willian Harrison Ainsworth circa 1840

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I also looked up "gimlet" and it does seem the "b" has been lost over
the years, from the olde English. Perhaps a trip to the OED would
show the earlier spelling. Anyway by adding a shot of vodka and some
Roses lime juice one can make a quite pleasent Vodka Gimlet.

Joe G

On Jan 23, 8:33*am, Charlie Self wrote:

Where in hell did that come from? What revisionists? WTF does race
have to do with hanging a carpenter in Tyburn 400+ years ago?

Possibly my comment was a bit more obscure than I intended. Please
see Swing's valid explanation that follows.

I cast out my John Wayne movies decades ago, when he started talking
like he was a real hero

You take the actors too seriously. If pitched the movies I liked
based on the actual personalities of the stars in them I would have
nothing to watch. I am a bit of a pariah amongst my friends as I like
John Wayne movies but didn't think much of him at all as a man and
when the conversation of his war record and personal habits come up, I
usually go get another beverage.

I am sure there are some model citizens in the mix somewhere, but I
don't care.

Charlie, you might think of actors like this to get you through.
Imagine the circus bear on a tricycle. He is a paid idiot with a
unique talent that makes you laugh. You don't really care that he
craps on the floor, will screw anything in heat, eats out of a bowl,
and beats up on the smaller bears because he can. (Doesn't that sound
at least like some of our sports "heroes"?)

You go the circus and watch the bear ride his trike in his funny
little hat because he amuses you. End of story.

Granted, there are actors I won't watch, but it is more due to their
politics than their actions.

But I do understand what you are saying about Wayne, though.

There was a great story on TMC a while back about Humphrey Bogart that
could easily apply to Wayne. According to the host, Bogart used to
favor going to the famous Brown Derby restaurant. The owner said that
"Hump" as he was known to friends was a great guy to have as a guest,
ready to buy a drink for a friend and share a meal.

But after a few drinks, he became his "Bogart" persona, and was a real
jerk and almost always wound up being asked (or forced) to leave.

I have heard the same story told about Wayne more than once. Anymore,
it doesn't make me like "The Man That Shot Liberty Valance" less.

Just my 0.02.

Robert
Robert

wrote:
On Jan 23, 8:33 am, Charlie Self wrote:

Where in hell did that come from? What revisionists? WTF does race
have to do with hanging a carpenter in Tyburn 400+ years ago?

Possibly my comment was a bit more obscure than I intended. Please
see Swing's valid explanation that follows.

I cast out my John Wayne movies decades ago, when he started
talking
like he was a real hero

You take the actors too seriously. If pitched the movies I liked
based on the actual personalities of the stars in them I would have
nothing to watch. I am a bit of a pariah amongst my friends as I
like
John Wayne movies but didn't think much of him at all as a man and
when the conversation of his war record and personal habits come up,
I
usually go get another beverage.

I am sure there are some model citizens in the mix somewhere, but I
don't care.

Well, Jimmy Stewart comes pretty close. Joined the Army Air Corps a
year before Pearl Harbor, flew 20 B-17 missions over Germany as pilot
in command before they promoted him out of flying, also flew in Korea,
and went as an observer on a B-52 mission over North Vietnam and
retired from the Air Force as a Brigadier General. Then there was
Audie Murphy--nobody who wears the Congressional Medal Of Honor has to
prove his credentials for "heroism"--his trouble as an actor was that
like most real heroes he didn't look very heroic. A lot of others
served and nobody really noticed. Audrey Hepburn was in the Dutch
Resistance and her health never did recover from some of the things
that happened to her then. James Doohan ("Scotty" on Star Trek) left
a finger in Normandy. There's a long list.

But this John Wayne bashing is silly. The people who knew him
personally and who had been there and done that don't seem to have any
problem with him or anything that he did.

Charlie, you might think of actors like this to get you through.
Imagine the circus bear on a tricycle. He is a paid idiot with a
unique talent that makes you laugh. You don't really care that he
craps on the floor, will screw anything in heat, eats out of a bowl,
and beats up on the smaller bears because he can. (Doesn't that
sound
at least like some of our sports "heroes"?)

You go the circus and watch the bear ride his trike in his funny
little hat because he amuses you. End of story.

Granted, there are actors I won't watch, but it is more due to their
politics than their actions.

But I do understand what you are saying about Wayne, though.

There was a great story on TMC a while back about Humphrey Bogart
that
could easily apply to Wayne. According to the host, Bogart used to
favor going to the famous Brown Derby restaurant. The owner said
that
"Hump" as he was known to friends was a great guy to have as a
guest,
ready to buy a drink for a friend and share a meal.

But after a few drinks, he became his "Bogart" persona, and was a
real
jerk and almost always wound up being asked (or forced) to leave.

I have heard the same story told about Wayne more than once.
Anymore,
it doesn't make me like "The Man That Shot Liberty Valance" less.

Lot of people are mean drunks. So what?


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