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Working on a personal project until it's time to install the next kitchen
(fast approaching, so get ready Leon!) Pictured on apbw is the basic corner cabinet casework I've been working on, when I get a chance, the last three weeks ... complete with base and crown, and finally standing on its on. The trim piece on the middle rail and the four doors and shelves remain to be fabricated, but the 76" tall case, which has been taking up space in the shop and making it difficult to move about, is finally out of the way and work can now commence on those parts. For the "rest of the story": http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects15.htm Unlike last year, and since I finished the shop made Christmas gifts BEFORE Halloween this year ... there's no hurry on this one. Canasta anyone? :) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/30/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Dec 5, 10:39 am, "Swingman" wrote:
Working on a personal project until it's time to install the next kitchen (fast approaching, so get ready Leon!) Pictured on apbw is the basic corner cabinet casework I've been working on, when I get a chance, the last three weeks ... complete with base and crown, and finally standing on its on. The trim piece on the middle rail and the four doors and shelves remain to be fabricated, but the 76" tall case, which has been taking up space in the shop and making it difficult to move about, is finally out of the way and work can now commence on those parts. For the "rest of the story":http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects15.htm Unlike last year, and since I finished the shop made Christmas gifts BEFORE Halloween this year ... there's no hurry on this one. Canasta anyone? :) --www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/30/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) Looks nice. Beautiful rays in that oak. Tom |
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"tom" wrote
Looks nice. Beautiful rays in that oak. Tom Thanks, Tom ... found those two boards at the very bottom (naturally) of a 3' high x 4' wide stack of 14' long rough, skip planed timber while hanging on with one hand and all ten toes to the "second floor" of a lumber dealer's rack. Was glad to get my feet back on the ground, but it turned out to be worth the risk to life and limb for that "wrap around" ray fleck on both sides of the face frame. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/30/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... Working on a personal project until it's time to install the next kitchen (fast approaching, so get ready Leon!) Cool! however I do have to complete $4000 worth of jewlry boxes "before" Christmas. ;~) Pictured on apbw is the basic corner cabinet casework I've been working on, when I get a chance, the last three weeks ... complete with base and crown, and finally standing on its on. The trim piece on the middle rail and the four doors and shelves remain to be fabricated, but the 76" tall case, which has been taking up space in the shop and making it difficult to move about, is finally out of the way and work can now commence on those parts. For the "rest of the story": http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects15.htm Unlike last year, and since I finished the shop made Christmas gifts BEFORE Halloween this year ... there's no hurry on this one. Wish I could say the same. Canasta anyone? :) My card fingers are getting itchy. |
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Swingman said:
Working on a personal project until it's time to install the next kitchen Really nice medullary rays in that oak. You are one busy dude. I'm impressed at the large format stuff you build in the space available - IIR the dimensions of your shop space correctly. You should see the mess I generate constructing a woodturning. :-o Nice job, as usual. Greg G. |
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"Greg G." wrote
Nice job, as usual. Thanks, Greg ... good to see you back posting again. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/30/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:39:34 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:
Working on a personal project until it's time to install the next kitchen (fast approaching, so get ready Leon!) Pictured on apbw is the basic corner cabinet casework I've been working on, when I get a chance, the last three weeks ... complete with base and crown, and finally standing on its on. The trim piece on the middle rail and the four doors and shelves remain to be fabricated, but the 76" tall case, which has been taking up space in the shop and making it difficult to move about, is finally out of the way and work can now commence on those parts. For the "rest of the story": http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects15.htm Great looking piece. I'm impressed by the quality of work, particularly considering the size of the shop. Mine is slightly larger, and I sure have trouble tackling any large pieces. Takes great deal of organization and planning to do that. Please tell me you do a major clean up before the pictures. :~) Unlike last year, and since I finished the shop made Christmas gifts BEFORE Halloween this year ... there's no hurry on this one. I am not there. Canasta anyone? :) Pass on the cards, but have finally seen the light. Post Thanksgiving after spending 30 minutes over the cast iron pot and then burning a batch of roux when the phone rings, think I'm going to try your method when I turn the the post Christmas smoked turkey carcass into gumbo. Frank |
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"Frank Boettcher" wrote
Great looking piece. I'm impressed by the quality of work, particularly considering the size of the shop. Mine is slightly larger, and I sure have trouble tackling any large pieces. Takes great deal of organization and planning to do that. Please tell me you do a major clean up before the pictures. :~) Thanks for the kind words. Like Boudreaux sez: "What you lose on the shrimp, you make on the crawfish; and what you lack in talent, you make up with 'organization and planning' ... sometimes!" :) Unlike last year, and since I finished the shop made Christmas gifts BEFORE Halloween this year ... there's no hurry on this one. I am not there. For some inexplicable reason I've been having a real good time lately, particularly after getting that chore out of the way. Being suspicious of that feeling however, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. There's alway's something! Canasta anyone? :) Pass on the cards, but have finally seen the light. Post Thanksgiving after spending 30 minutes over the cast iron pot and then burning a batch of roux when the phone rings, think I'm going to try your method when I turn the the post Christmas smoked turkey carcass into gumbo. Back in my 'yoot of living large, it took a minimum of a six pack, a dash of good company, a pack of Luckies, and half a day of constant stirring to make a roux for a big gumbo. When that ceased being fun, mainly for lack of the dash, I switched to making it in the oven, in a big cast iron Dutch Oven. Then Mom convinced me to try the microwave method. If you can't trust your mother, she being one of the best Cajun cooks in S. Louisiana, with a number of recipes published down through the years, and not subject to heresy .... It didn't take more than the first spoonful of her chicken/sausage/okra gumbo to be convinced. Let us know how goes it. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/30/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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Swingman said:
"Greg G." wrote Nice job, as usual. Thanks, Greg ... good to see you back posting again. Thanks, KC. Wondered if anyone would notice... ;-) I snuck in the back way... Warm weather has me busy working on a house, so I don't get to do much in the way of "woodworking" except in winter. This is the first project for this winter: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...lacewood01.jpg You should have an appreciation for this more than many: Replacement windows, doors, siding, building wrap and insulation: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...es/house07.jpg Roof: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...es/house09.jpg More or less finished for the year: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...es/house10.jpg Homemade material lift: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...es/house11.jpg Every ton of building materials humped by me, alone, including uncountable tons of Hardiplank, 58 bundles of shingles, door units with sidelights, 3 (48"x62") double paned tempered glass picture windows, and several truckloads of replacement framing and sheathing to replace the termite eaten originals. All that work, and it's still a McMansion in a dirty corporate owned southern city. Tired and feeling way too old for this sort of thing... My life is totally backwards - had it good in my teens and 20s. Now I'm resorting to this due to the jobs sucking wind these days. Slave Laborors, Lawyers, and Technology, Bah! Greg G. |
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"Greg G." wrote
Swingman said: "Greg G." wrote Nice job, as usual. Thanks, Greg ... good to see you back posting again. Thanks, KC. Wondered if anyone would notice... ;-) I snuck in the back way... Warm weather has me busy working on a house, so I don't get to do much in the way of "woodworking" except in winter. This is the first project for this winter: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...lacewood01.jpg Beautiful turning ... look out charlieb and mac! You should have an appreciation for this more than many: Replacement windows, doors, siding, building wrap and insulation: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...es/house07.jpg Roof: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...es/house09.jpg More or less finished for the year: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...es/house10.jpg Homemade material lift: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...es/house11.jpg Every ton of building materials humped by me, alone, including uncountable tons of Hardiplank, 58 bundles of shingles, door units with sidelights, 3 (48"x62") double paned tempered glass picture windows, and several truckloads of replacement framing and sheathing to replace the termite eaten originals. All that work, and it's still a McMansion in a dirty corporate owned southern city. Tired and feeling way too old for this sort of thing... Great work, Greg!! That is something to be proud of!! BTW, looks similar to some of what I've been building the past few years: www.paloent.com .... although I subcontract most all of the work out due to too many years under the bridge for that much humping (but I did the kitchens on the first two by myself, and Leon and I have done the kitchens on the last three). My life is totally backwards - had it good in my teens and 20s. Now I'm resorting to this due to the jobs sucking wind these days. Slave Laborors, Lawyers, and Technology, Bah! Yeah, I remember those trials and tribulations ... keep your chin up buddy! You're doing better than you think. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/30/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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Swingman said:
Beautiful turning ... look out charlieb and mac! Thanks. I'm not sure how profitable, considering the hours involved versus the fact that I don't have a machine or a crew of slave laborers to pump them out. Keeps me out of trouble, FWIW. All that work, and it's still a McMansion in a dirty corporate owned southern city. Tired and feeling way too old for this sort of thing... Great work, Greg!! That is something to be proud of!! Thanks again. I feel a little like I'm gold plating a Vega, however. The framing and materials faux pas' leave something to be desired. BTW, looks similar to some of what I've been building the past few years: They look a tad bigger than this abortion, I'd say. They sure look good from the street views. Of course the proof of the pudding is a closer inspection - something that isn't done very often around here. ... although I subcontract most all of the work out due to too many years under the bridge for that much humping (but I did the kitchens on the first two by myself, and Leon and I have done the kitchens on the last three). I understand completely and emphatically. I'm no spring chicken. Plumbing and electrical are considerably less taxing. And I really hate sanding sheet rock and painting. Incidentally, what brand/type of windows do you use? I wasn't really impressed with these special orders, but they weren't the most expensive either. Slave Laborors, Lawyers, and Technology, Bah! Yeah, I remember those trials and tribulations ... keep your chin up buddy! I does get pretty old being poked at like a specimen in a petri dish. That's why the woodturnings - they keep me away from the locals. :-/ You're doing better than you think. At least I'm not selling used cars to poor single mothers at the buy now, repo later lot. Good to see you're still around, along with a few other familiars. I still read a few messages every month or so. And if I don't see you before then, have a merry Christmas. Greg G. |
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"Greg G." wrote Incidentally, what brand/type of windows do you use? I wasn't really impressed with these special orders, but they weren't the most expensive either. I'm a fan of quality vinyl windows in this climate for the low maintenance. The higher grade Jeld-Wens is not bad, but I've noticed their quality seems to be slipping lately ... the same grade they sold as "builder grade" five or six years ago was a very good window, that grade now sucks. As in all things, you get what you pay for. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/30/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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Swingman said:
"Greg G." wrote Incidentally, what brand/type of windows do you use? I wasn't really impressed with these special orders, but they weren't the most expensive either. I'm a fan of quality vinyl windows in this climate for the low maintenance. The higher grade Jeld-Wens is not bad, but I've noticed their quality seems to be slipping lately ... the same grade they sold as "builder grade" five or six years ago was a very good window, that grade now sucks. I used the Carradco's by JeldWen. Seemed the best bang for the buck in wooden windows. The locally stocked standard sized units I bought at the outset were OK, but the drooping, fake bow windows required custom order units which were poorer quality. On a couple of the units, the sashes barely seal against the top/bottom jambs. You have to manually insure they seal when closing. It appears they use stock sized, pre-assembled sashes and the frames are built per customer order. Tolerance stack up leaves excessive top/bottom clearances on some. Not exactly what I was looking for when replacing for "energy conservation." On top of that, when I got around to painting/staining, the preinstalled sash latch screw holes were stripped and fell out when loosened 45 degrees. Nice... The best part was removing the originals, which were rotten (no head flashing) and held in by two to four concrete nails driven through the brickmold. Single pane, no insulation or caulk, no shims, trapezoidal openings, and not even leveled. A couple nearly fell out when the siding and interior trim were removed. I would have used pocket window replacements if not for these factors. A prime example of modern slap 'er up, profit driven homebuilding. These were built in 1987. And it's has gotten much worse around here since. And I cannot fathom why we still employ code enforcement people who inspect nothing but the contents of the pay-off envelopes and their new boat. I hope I have one more single story house left in me, 'cause I'm building my next home myself - in the woods, far away from any city. Unplugged, as it were. Cisterns, geothermal and solar, etc. Even a huge surplus single cylinder (multi-fuel) diesel and alternator for "emergency power" if I can't locate property with a dam-able creek for hydro. Escalating energy costs have me leaning heavily towards a woodburning stove for shop heat. I'm tired of giving money to these oily *******s - I'll burn used cooking oil if I have to. As in all things, you get what you pay for. If you are REALLY lucky... Thus I would add, "and what you are persistent enough to demand." Oy Vey. Greg G. |
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On Dec 5, 12:39 pm, "Swingman" wrote:
Working on a personal project until it's time to install the next kitchen (fast approaching, so get ready Leon!) Pictured on apbw is the basic corner cabinet casework I've been working on, when I get a chance, the last three weeks ... complete with base and crown, and finally standing on its on. The trim piece on the middle rail and the four doors and shelves remain to be fabricated, but the 76" tall case, which has been taking up space in the shop and making it difficult to move about, is finally out of the way and work can now commence on those parts. For the "rest of the story":http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects15.htm Unlike last year, and since I finished the shop made Christmas gifts BEFORE Halloween this year ... there's no hurry on this one. Canasta anyone? :) --www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/30/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) Looks great!. How are you planning to mount the glass in the doors? r |
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"Robatoy" wrote
Looks great!. How are you planning to mount the glass in the doors? The usual dado'ed face frame ... they're pretty small, glass will be roughly 7 7/8 x 28. Still haven't decided upon muntins, or no. Made the wood panel doors yesterday, and will probably start cogitating/consulting on the glass ones today. But ... after Saturday, there are now further, humbling, complications ... dammit! Spent the afternoon at an 'open house' in the beautiful home one of Leon's woodworking clients, a house that turns out to be a veritable museum for his work, one or two pieces in _every_ room, including the bath. Man, there is some gorgeous work there and plenty of it, including two corner cabinets, count'em TWO, that make me think I should just start over. To say that Leon's furniture work is impressive is the mother of understatements ... makes you want to go serve an apprenticeship somewhere and learn how to really do this stuff. Upshot is that I've now going to be asking myself, "Hmmm ... what would Leon do here?" for the next decade or two. Folks, you don't really appreciate the amount of woodworking, and design, talent on the wRec until you've seen some of it in person! -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/30/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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Swingman said:
Folks, you don't really appreciate the amount of woodworking, and design, talent on the wRec until you've seen some of it in person! The pictures are bad enough. ;-) I'm certain that if I saw the better pieces in person, I'd just give it up. It makes one's own humble attempts look the trash they are in reality. Probably why Norm is so popular. It doesn't take a whole lot of effort and talent to best his public works. Besides, it doesn't have to be "perfect" to be functional. Of course, as a relative newbie, I'm speaking for myself here... But if all that's not bad enough, witness some of the hand carved pieces they produce in Asia - where they make their own tools from old scrap metal and motorcycle spokes, and carve barefooted and freehand. http://www.thenewchinkyworkshop.com/...inthailand.htm I'm going to go flush my head now. Greg G. |
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"Greg G." wrote
But if all that's not bad enough, witness some of the hand carved pieces they produce in Asia - where they make their own tools from old scrap metal and motorcycle spokes, and carve barefooted and freehand. http://www.thenewchinkyworkshop.com/...inthailand.htm Yep .... the key to whole damn wooddorking thing: Go BAREFOOT!! .... wrap your toes around that. :) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/30/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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Greg G. wrote:
Swingman said: Folks, you don't really appreciate the amount of woodworking, and design, talent on the wRec until you've seen some of it in person! The pictures are bad enough. ;-) I'm certain that if I saw the better pieces in person, I'd just give it up. It makes one's own humble attempts look the trash they are in reality. Probably why Norm is so popular. It doesn't take a whole lot of effort and talent to best his public works. Besides, it doesn't have to be "perfect" to be functional. Of course, as a relative newbie, I'm speaking for myself here... But if all that's not bad enough, witness some of the hand carved pieces they produce in Asia - where they make their own tools from old scrap metal and motorcycle spokes, and carve barefooted and freehand. http://www.thenewchinkyworkshop.com/...inthailand.htm I'm going to go flush my head now. My mother had a chest similar to the coffee table that the carver was sitting on. Don't know what happened to it--when she died it wasn't there in her apartment. Probably just as well, it really needed to be knocked down and reglued (dovetails at all the corners by the way) and I just know I'd have managed to bust the crap out of it knocking it down. She bought it in Shanghai IIRC. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Swingman wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote Man, there is some gorgeous work there and plenty of it, including two corner cabinets, count'em TWO, that make me think I should just start over. NO! I doubt that you mean that, but let me say something here. I'm sure Leon's work is top grade. And maybe he's got a few tricks up his sleeve that you've yet to learn. I suspect you've got a few on him as well. It normally works that way with guys at your level. I haven't seen his stuff, but I've spent many an hour ogling your site, Swingman, and you've got not a damned thing to be ashamed of. Your work, methods, and attitude are what I aspire to. At my age, and profession, I'll never get there, but you're an inspiration nonetheless. Sure, you make something and then take a critical eye at it, and it doesn't quite measure to what you'd hoped. But from this eye, it's all lovely. Ramblings from an amateur.... -- Tanus This is not really a sig. http://www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/ |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... "Robatoy" wrote Looks great!. How are you planning to mount the glass in the doors? The usual dado'ed face frame ... they're pretty small, glass will be roughly 7 7/8 x 28. Still haven't decided upon muntins, or no. Made the wood panel doors yesterday, and will probably start cogitating/consulting on the glass ones today. But ... after Saturday, there are now further, humbling, complications ... dammit! Spent the afternoon at an 'open house' in the beautiful home one of Leon's woodworking clients, a house that turns out to be a veritable museum for his work, one or two pieces in _every_ room, including the bath. Man, there is some gorgeous work there and plenty of it, including two corner cabinets, count'em TWO, that make me think I should just start over. To say that Leon's furniture work is impressive is the mother of understatements ... makes you want to go serve an apprenticeship somewhere and learn how to really do this stuff. Upshot is that I've now going to be asking myself, "Hmmm ... what would Leon do here?" for the next decade or two. Folks, you don't really appreciate the amount of woodworking, and design, talent on the wRec until you've seen some of it in person! Well, sitting here with a red face, Thank you Swingman, but as usual your talent for eloquently describing things to sound magnificent has caused a problem with my head, as it has swollen such that I cannot get though the door way. I give all credit to our great long time friends that hosted the party and the excellent choice of music playing in the back ground by the great Linda Lowe. With that in mind, Swingman being a very good friend is no slouch himself at being able to turn wood into beauty as proven by the many pieces that he has posted on his web site. There are numerous pieces in his home that beg to be touched every time I visit. Furniture can easily look nice but how often dies it call out to be touched? In particular a small walnut entryway table that IIRC resides under a picture of himself dressed up in his "Horse Riding Costume" riding his pony 15 or 20 years ago. ;~) The piece is simply elegant. From there you move further inside his home to the much larger desks, tables, hutches, cabinets, and those 7 chairs which are eye candy to any woodworkers eyes. I would be proud and honored to have any piece of his work in my home. EXCEPT for a copy of a piece that I made which apparently was a bit too complicated for him to duplicate. Sometimes card holders with kick stands can be complicated with confusing angles. ;~) Please ask Swingman to repost the picture of THAT one. LOL |
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"Greg G." wrote in message ... Swingman said: Folks, you don't really appreciate the amount of woodworking, and design, talent on the wRec until you've seen some of it in person! The pictures are bad enough. ;-) I'm certain that if I saw the better pieces in person, I'd just give it up. It makes one's own humble attempts look the trash they are in reality. Probably why Norm is so popular. It doesn't take a whole lot of effort and talent to best his public works. Besides, it doesn't have to be "perfect" to be functional. Of course, as a relative newbie, I'm speaking for myself here... But if all that's not bad enough, witness some of the hand carved pieces they produce in Asia - where they make their own tools from old scrap metal and motorcycle spokes, and carve barefooted and freehand. http://www.thenewchinkyworkshop.com/...inthailand.htm I'm going to go flush my head now. Yeah, truly magnificent work. |
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On Dec 9, 10:29 am, "Swingman" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote Looks great!. How are you planning to mount the glass in the doors? The usual dado'ed face frame ... they're pretty small, glass will be roughly 7 7/8 x 28. Still haven't decided upon muntins, or no. Made the wood panel doors yesterday, and will probably start cogitating/consulting on the glass ones today. What I was after (I didn't ask it clearly,) was, do you use points, silicon, or small wood trim pieces to hold in the glass? I have yet to see an 'elegant' way to do that which doesn't involve hours of making and mounting moulding strips. |
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"Tanus" wrote in message ... NO! I doubt that you mean that, but let me say something here. NO you are correct, he absolutely does not mean that. I'm sure Leon's work is top grade. And maybe he's got a few tricks up his sleeve that you've yet to learn. I suspect you've got a few on him as well. It normally works that way with guys at your level. As Swingman has indicated in the past, we have worked together on a few kitchen projects in the last few years and I have truly learned a few of those tricks that were up his sleeve. I believe when working together that we greatly compliment each other and the results are some very nice kitchens. A good woodworker is always open to learn new ideas and ways to do things. |
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"Robatoy" wrote
What I was after (I didn't ask it clearly,) was, do you use points, silicon, or small wood trim pieces to hold in the glass? On square glass kitchen doors with a single pane and no muntins, I generally use a rabbeted face frame (not dado, sorry) and silicon. For a piece of furniture, both judiciously applied silicon to stop the rattle, and wood trim, attached with pins. I have yet to see an 'elegant' way to do that which doesn't involve hours of making and mounting moulding strips. Since there are gently curved rails at the top of each glass door that mimic the base of the cabinet, I'm undecided which avenue I will take on these glass doors. http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/CornCab20.jpg If the glass guy can duplicate the slight curve with no problem, I will route a dado after the face frames are glued up; if not, I'll give him a square, routed out area on the back of the top rails that will accept a rectangular piece of glass. I wish I knew, because I have the bottom doors glued up and drying and I'm twiddling my thumbs as we speak. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/09/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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"Leon" wrote
that IIRC resides under a picture of himself dressed up in his "Horse Riding Costume" riding his pony 15 or 20 years ago. ;~) 30 years ago, a 16 hand Thoroughbred hunter, and that's Fox Hunting attire, son. :) Tally ho! -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/09/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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"Tanus" wrote
Sure, you make something and then take a critical eye at it, and it doesn't quite measure to what you'd hoped. But from this eye, it's all lovely. Wow, thanks! Didn't meant to start a lovefest. :) Do indeed get blown a way when I see top notch work, and just thought I'd mention what I saw yesterday. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/09/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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Swingman wrote:
"Tanus" wrote Sure, you make something and then take a critical eye at it, and it doesn't quite measure to what you'd hoped. But from this eye, it's all lovely. Wow, thanks! Didn't meant to start a lovefest. :) No, I didn't mean to start one either. As others have said, and quite recently, it's often a joy to read the things people put down here. It's also a thrill to see the pictures of what someone's accomplished. I don't want to be maudlin, nor do I want to embarrass anyone, but I do want to show my appreciation for the contribution that you and many others make to the forum, both in text and webpages. -- Tanus This is not really a sig. http://www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/ |
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On Dec 9, 4:21 pm, "Swingman" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote What I was after (I didn't ask it clearly,) was, do you use points, silicon, or small wood trim pieces to hold in the glass? On square glass kitchen doors with a single pane and no muntins, I generally use a rabbeted face frame (not dado, sorry) and silicon. I have used silicon there also. One of the very few times I will tape a silicon job. But it's silicon..I don't think it belongs on furniture. Also, I absolutely hate that **** and in the countertop business, I go through a lot of it, even when scribing to the walls. (They're not straight, you know....G) For a piece of furniture, both judiciously applied silicon to stop the rattle, and wood trim, attached with pins. See? A question, an answer. I always forget I have that pinner. That should do a great job in that application. I'll make a bunch of small trim...cool. Problem solved. I wish I knew, because I have the bottom doors glued up and drying and I'm twiddling my thumbs as we speak. When you have time, give Long Road Out Of Eden a listen. Took me 4-5 tries to have it work for me...but them Eagles are the epitomy of slick. I have always been a huge Eagles fan, but was leery to try this new CD. I didn't not want to be disappointed. Then I read a review in Rolling Stone magazine which had a line in it which made me go buy it: ==== Walsh's "Last Good Time in Town" is a wry cantina-swing sequel to "Life in the Fast Lane" -- staying home apparently is the new going out -- and he cuts through the salsa-lounge grooming with James Gang- era guitar. Seven minutes, though, is a long time to sing about doing ****-all. ==== LOL. As a guy who has worked both sides of the glass in the studio, you'll appreciate the art. Can there be a recording that is 'too well done?" r |
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Swingman said:
"Tanus" wrote Sure, you make something and then take a critical eye at it, and it doesn't quite measure to what you'd hoped. But from this eye, it's all lovely. Wow, thanks! Didn't meant to start a lovefest. :) OK you guys, get a room. Do indeed get blown a way when I see top notch work, and just thought I'd mention what I saw yesterday. The party drinks make the mind more amiable to questionable beauty. Seriously. Haven't you ever awakened on a Saturday morning and... Oh well, at least you got blown one way or another. Greg G. |
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On Dec 9, 5:08 pm, Greg wrote:
Swingman said: "Tanus" wrote Sure, you make something and then take a critical eye at it, and it doesn't quite measure to what you'd hoped. But from this eye, it's all lovely. Wow, thanks! Didn't meant to start a lovefest. :) OK you guys, get a room. Do indeed get blown a way when I see top notch work, and just thought I'd mention what I saw yesterday. The party drinks make the mind more amiable to questionable beauty. Seriously. Haven't you ever awakened on a Saturday morning and... I have the stitch marks where they re-attached my arm to prove it. |
Corner Cab - work in progress
Swingman said:
If the glass guy can duplicate the slight curve with no problem, I will route a dado after the face frames are glued up; if not, I'll give him a square, routed out area on the back of the top rails that will accept a rectangular piece of glass. Unless you are requesting tempered glass, it quite easy to cut curves in float glass. I know a guy who can freehand it. I can do it with guidelines, and I _know_ you could too. Give him a template or the frame and it should be no problem at all. Besides, curved glass looks so much more eloquent when opeing the door. I wish I knew, because I have the bottom doors glued up and drying and I'm twiddling my thumbs as we speak. I'm waiting on glue to dry... Again... Greg G. |
Corner Cab - work in progress
On Dec 9, 4:21 pm, "Swingman" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote What I was after (I didn't ask it clearly,) was, do you use points, silicon, or small wood trim pieces to hold in the glass? On square glass kitchen doors with a single pane and no muntins, I generally use a rabbeted face frame (not dado, sorry) and silicon. For a piece of furniture, both judiciously applied silicon to stop the rattle, and wood trim, attached with pins. I have yet to see an 'elegant' way to do that which doesn't involve hours of making and mounting moulding strips. Since there are gently curved rails at the top of each glass door that mimic the base of the cabinet, I'm undecided which avenue I will take on these glass doors. http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/CornCab20.jpg AHHHA!! That was a drive-by... that shop door is OPEN!! You suck. |
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"Robatoy" wrote
AHHHA!! That was a drive-by... that shop door is OPEN!! You suck. LMAO ... it 80 g(*%&()*m degrees outside here, Bubba. Eat your heart out! ;) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/09/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
Corner Cab - work in progress
Robatoy said:
On Dec 9, 4:21 pm, "Swingman" wrote: Since there are gently curved rails at the top of each glass door that mimic the base of the cabinet, I'm undecided which avenue I will take on these glass doors. http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/CornCab20.jpg AHHHA!! That was a drive-by... that shop door is OPEN!! You suck. Well then you'll love this, Rob. I blew out the shop this morning with a leaf blower. It's 74 degrees right now. Predicted 76 tomorrow. Down side is the 7 months of swealtering heat and humidity in summer (yet we're in a drought), and the scant two weeks of spring and fall. Greg G. |
Corner Cab - work in progress
"Robatoy" wrote
When you have time, give Long Road Out Of Eden a listen. Took me 4-5 tries to have it work for me...but them Eagles are the epitomy of slick. era guitar. Seven minutes, though, is a long time to sing about doing ****-all. ==== LOL. As a guy who has worked both sides of the glass in the studio, you'll appreciate the art. Can there be a recording that is 'too well done?" Not on the "recording" end, IMO. It's like wooddorking, you shoot for the moon and hit the top of your Keds, on a good day ... and you can always try to polish at turd/song, providing you can get a firm grasp on the clean end. I saw an interview with Walsh the other day and it looked interesting ... thanks for the heads-up. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/09/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
Corner Cab - work in progress
"Greg G." wrote Unless you are requesting tempered glass, it quite easy to cut curves in float glass. I know a guy who can freehand it. I can do it with guidelines, and I _know_ you could too. Give him a template or the frame and it should be no problem at all. Besides, curved glass looks so much more eloquent when opeing the door. I agree ... and it's so much easier to run a router with a bearing bit and then square up the corners than trying to blind cut stopped dadoes. Never stopped to think about why, but I have an aversion to working with/handling glass ... simply don't want to touch the stuff, therefore the complete ignorance on the subject. Pretty much the same way about plumbing ... I can do anything in construction, from foundations to roofing, but I won't even replace a faucet washer without a gun to my head. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/09/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
Corner Cab - work in progress
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:31:44 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:
Wow, thanks! Didn't meant to start a lovefest. :) A sweaty pile of woodworkers, what an image! G |
Corner Cab - work in progress
"Tanus" wrote I don't want to be maudlin, nor do I want to embarrass anyone, but I do want to show my appreciation for the contribution that you and many others make to the forum, both in text and webpages. Thank you very much for those kind words! I'm glad you get some use of the site. I enjoy, and benefit from, keeping the webpage updated, it serves a secondary function of helping me overcome CRS these days. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 12/09/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
Corner Cab - work in progress
Swingman said:
"Greg G." wrote Unless you are requesting tempered glass, it quite easy to cut curves in float glass. I know a guy who can freehand it. I can do it with guidelines, and I _know_ you could too. Give him a template or the frame and it should be no problem at all. Besides, curved glass looks so much more eloquent when opeing the door. I agree ... and it's so much easier to run a router with a bearing bit and then square up the corners than trying to blind cut stopped dadoes. Would never consider trapping glass in a dado unless one rail unscrewed, but you are right about the bearing bit. The best part is that you have no worries about the corners lining up evenly due to inaccuracies in the positioning of the cuts on the individual sticks. Or something like that... Never stopped to think about why, but I have an aversion to working with/handling glass ... simply don't want to touch the stuff, therefore the complete ignorance on the subject. Odd, considering your breadth of experience; but to each to his own. It's _really_ easy, however. Just watch the edges. You can get thin float glass on a Sunday from the Borg and cut it in minutes. Even knock off the edges with emory cloth and sandblast patterns with a simple thin rubber mask cut with an Xacto knife. All kinds of neat stuff you can do with glass fairly easily. Just not barefooted. Pretty much the same way about plumbing ... I can do anything in construction, from foundations to roofing, but I won't even replace a faucet washer without a gun to my head. I pass on the foundations due to the degree of humping involved, roofing due to the monotony (and the humping), but electrical and plumbing are OK. But that's me. I can't play the trumpet either. Even with a gun to my head. Greg G. |
Corner Cab - work in progress
On Dec 9, 5:47 pm, Greg wrote:
Robatoy said: On Dec 9, 4:21 pm, "Swingman" wrote: Since there are gently curved rails at the top of each glass door that mimic the base of the cabinet, I'm undecided which avenue I will take on these glass doors. http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/CornCab20.jpg AHHHA!! That was a drive-by... that shop door is OPEN!! You suck. Well then you'll love this, Rob. I blew out the shop this morning with a leaf blower. It's 74 degrees right now. Predicted 76 tomorrow. Down side is the 7 months of swealtering heat and humidity in summer (yet we're in a drought), and the scant two weeks of spring and fall. Greg G. Then it begs to be said again: YOU suck as well then... I don't mind 'winter' as such.. even when it get really cold and snowy. That is what winter is, you dress for it, block heaters and that sort of stuff. It is that just-below freezing, chilly winds with some wetness that can't be described as either rain sleet or snow...that's the crap that gets to me. Angela and I actually invested in a two-zone electric blanket this year... with pre-heat. I may have been a waffle in a previous life. Good thing that blanket has a 10-hour auto shutoff. Now we have reprogrammed the thermostat for lower night temperatures and have the window open a crack for that crisp Canadian air. |
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