On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:41:33 -0000, Charlie Self
wrote:

On Aug 18, 7:45 am, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
"Trent" wrote:..
What kind of shop heater would you reccomend?

My shop is 28x32 with 10 foot ceilings. It would have to be electric
for there is no gas line nearby.

Propane. At least where I live. Electricity here is 17¢ a kW making it much
more expensive than any other form of energy.

Holy smoke! I need to check, as the local utility has been really
getting into the swing of screwing the customer--catching up with the
outside world, I guess--but I think we're still in the dime a kWh or
under. It might have jumped to 11 or 12 cents, though.

I was going to recommend the OP take a look at Northern's heaters.
Last winter, they had--don't hold me to the spelling--an Ouilette 240
volt that would heat a goodly space if hung from a ceiling corner. But
if his electricity costs like yours, ugh! I use propane heaters (two
45,000 Btu) to bring it up to toast, and then shut the heat down. I've
been planning on installing one electric corner heater in opposite
corners, because one is not going to be enough. My shop is 25' x 48'
with a near 9' ceiling. Moderately insulated.

We had a 55 gallon barrel wood stove in an uninsulated big enough for
three cars garage in Cleveland Ohio. I guess that was about 900 SF
with no ceilings, just rafters. We could get it pretty warm with a box
fan to blow the heat around.

"Jim Behning" wrote

We had a 55 gallon barrel wood stove in an uninsulated big enough for
three cars garage in Cleveland Ohio. I guess that was about 900 SF
with no ceilings, just rafters. We could get it pretty warm with a box
fan to blow the heat around.

You must be in the tropical part of Cleveland.

I froze my rear end off when I was there.

Still remember a day in January when it hit -19F over night.

I was able to get a car started that had stayed outside all night, but when
I got to work, the place was locked up and had to go back home.

Lew

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:09:29 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Jim Behning" wrote

We had a 55 gallon barrel wood stove in an uninsulated big enough for
three cars garage in Cleveland Ohio. I guess that was about 900 SF
with no ceilings, just rafters. We could get it pretty warm with a box
fan to blow the heat around.

You must be in the tropical part of Cleveland.

I froze my rear end off when I was there.

Still remember a day in January when it hit -19F over night.

I was able to get a car started that had stayed outside all night, but when
I got to work, the place was locked up and had to go back home.

Lew

You got me there. We lived about 600 feet from Lake Erie. The tropical
breezes from Canada kept it to no colder than -15. I can recall sking
in college where a cold spell hit in the day and it got to -10 in the
day. I guess it got real cold that night.

"Jim Behning" wrote:

You got me there.

That was 1963, the year they established the no parking, snow ban
ordinance when there was 2" on the ground.

We lived about 600 feet from Lake Erie.

Where? I probably sailed right past your place.

Over the years, kept my boat in Fairport, Cleveland, Lorain, and
finally Sandusky.

Living along the lake affords some protection from the lake itself.

The folks on the east side get the best of it.

Lew

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:17:10 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Jim Behning" wrote:

You got me there.

That was 1963, the year they established the no parking, snow ban
ordinance when there was 2" on the ground.

We lived about 600 feet from Lake Erie.

Where? I probably sailed right past your place.

Over the years, kept my boat in Fairport, Cleveland, Lorain, and
finally Sandusky.

Living along the lake affords some protection from the lake itself.

The folks on the east side get the best of it.

Lew


I lived in Bay Village from 1963-1983. For year in the middle of the
city at the low spot east of Cahoon Park. Low spot was Glen Park Road
which had a mini valley and a creek running down the middle. Next
house was on Bradley Road which was close to the wedge of the city.
Both houses were 3-4 houses from the actual lake.

One of my neighbor talked about the huge beaches we used to have at
Bay Village. She had a picture of 100 feet of sand on the west side of
the city where I lived. I guess there used to be a lot of cottages
down there before they raised the water level.

My wife lived in Chardon which was east of Cleveland and always got
dumped with the most snow.

I was on a big sailboat once for an hour at night. I think I was on a
dingy, tiny sailboat where we tried to go from our neighborhood to
Cahoon Park and back. Slow going in a little boat I vaguely recall. I
was not much of a water person.

"Jim Behning"

I lived in Bay Village from 1963-1983.

It was a common joke that since there were no bars in "Bay", nobody in
the village drank.

My wife lived in Chardon which was east of Cleveland and always got
dumped with the most snow.

Unless you lived there, it was hard to grasp "lake effect" snow that
got dumped on Geauga County.

Maybe 72" at the airport on the west side, minimum of 120" in the
"snow belt".

I was on a big sailboat once for an hour at night.

My idea of racing was "down below for a cold one".

Strictly a cruising sailor.

I
was not much of a water person.

Understand.

Lew