Went to Lowes to get a refund on extras from the well project.
Stopped for an ice cream cone on the way home.

Pulled out in the right lane, and, as usual, put the pedal down
about half-way, just to hear the pipes, love those pipes. On the left I
had noticed a black whatever annoying type of import coming up fast
enough to catch up with me, apparently with the intent of whipping by me
and "impressing me". I was still accellerating at that point. I guess
him looking over, seeing an old guy eating an ice cream cone, driving a
'78 El Camino, sounding like it was, still in first, still accelerating,
kinda discouraged him. By the time it shifted into second, about 2
seconds later, I let off and looked in the side mirror - he was about
half a block behind me - not turning off, just driving straight. Ah, a
good day indeed. LMAO



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

"J T" wrote in message
...
Went to Lowes to get a refund on extras from the well project.
Stopped for an ice cream cone on the way home.

Pulled out in the right lane, and, as usual, put the pedal down
about half-way, just to hear the pipes, love those pipes. On the left I
had noticed a black whatever annoying type of import coming up fast
enough to catch up with me, apparently with the intent of whipping by me
and "impressing me". I was still accellerating at that point. I guess
him looking over, seeing an old guy eating an ice cream cone, driving a
'78 El Camino, sounding like it was, still in first, still accelerating,
kinda discouraged him. By the time it shifted into second, about 2
seconds later, I let off and looked in the side mirror - he was about
half a block behind me - not turning off, just driving straight. Ah, a
good day indeed. LMAO



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso


Mmmmm, '78 Camino... me like!!! Spec your mill for us and then we can be
*really* envious.

Wed, Aug 1, 2007, 8:39pm (C*&*E) doth sayeth:
Mmmmm, '78 Camino... me like!!! Spec your mill for us and then we can be
*really* envious.

No need to be too envious, I figure I got took on the deal. New
tires and shocks all around, but it's got those stoopid looking IROC
style wheels, too. The clock doesn't work, and now the radio quit, but
the CD does still work. The air wasn't connected, but the younger son
connected it, purged it, and charged it. And someone took out the 350
originally in it, and replaced it with a rebuilt 307. They did put
something called Vortec heads on it, and something called a Crane cam
that makes it idle rough. Then instead of the good cast iron intake
someone replaced that with an aluminum one. Instead of the good stock
carb that was replaced with what must be a import because it's called
Edelbrock. The air filter isn't paper, but something called a K&N. It
must have been pretty bad, because it's got a new water pump, radiator,
alternater, and a bunch of other stuff too. Oh yeah, the trans was
rebuilt too. But on the bright side, it does have true duals with
glasspacks, and they sound absolutely great. I figure I got took pretty
bad, but I really needed a vehicle at the time, so went ahead and paid
$1400 for it anyway. I'm gonna try to shop around, for my next vehicle,
so I can get a good price.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

"J T" wrote in message

glasspacks, and they sound absolutely great. I figure I got took pretty
bad, but I really needed a vehicle at the time, so went ahead and paid
$1400 for it anyway. I'm gonna try to shop around, for my next vehicle,
so I can get a good price.

Alright already!! ... you suck!!!!

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Last update: 6/1/07
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Thu, Aug 2, 2007, 6:21am (EDT-1) (Swingman) doth sayeth:
Alright already!! ... you suck!!!!

Hehehe



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 06:21:33 -0500, "Swingman" wrote:

"J T" wrote in message

glasspacks, and they sound absolutely great. I figure I got took pretty
bad, but I really needed a vehicle at the time, so went ahead and paid
$1400 for it anyway. I'm gonna try to shop around, for my next vehicle,
so I can get a good price.

Alright already!! ... you suck!!!!

I remember "back in the day", you bought 2 sets of "cherry bomb" glass packs...
One set to run with after blowing out the glass with a few down shifts, the
other set to put on every time you got a "fix it" ticket and had to go have them
listen to it...


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

"J T" wrote in message
No need to be too envious, I figure I got took on the deal. New
tires and shocks all around, but it's got those stoopid looking IROC
style wheels, too. The clock doesn't work, and now the radio quit, but
the CD does still work. The air wasn't connected, but the younger son
connected it, purged it, and charged it. And someone took out the 350
originally in it, and replaced it with a rebuilt 307. They did put
something called Vortec heads on it, and something called a Crane cam
that makes it idle rough. Then instead of the good cast iron intake
someone replaced that with an aluminum one. Instead of the good stock
carb that was replaced with what must be a import because it's called
Edelbrock. The air filter isn't paper, but something called a K&N. It
must have been pretty bad, because it's got a new water pump, radiator,
alternater, and a bunch of other stuff too. Oh yeah, the trans was
rebuilt too. But on the bright side, it does have true duals with
glasspacks, and they sound absolutely great.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself for taking some kid's pride and joy
because he needed the money.

Thu, Aug 2, 2007, 10:38am (Upscale)doth claimeth:
You ought to be ashamed of yourself for taking some kid's pride and joy
because he needed the money.

Hah! The "kid" is a cop, with a late model street Mustang, with
400+ rear wheel HP, and plans for a supercharer on it. AND, a very
nifty drag Vega. AND a nice home, with a huge garage. He was only
using the El Camino for parts hauling, didn't really need it, and wanted
the money to sink into his other toys. I just happened to be in the
right place, at the right time, and, finally, money to buy. Actually I
think I could have gotten it for $1200-1300, but had decided to let the
older son bargain for me. He sucks at bargaining.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

"Swingman" wrote in message
...
"J T" wrote in message

glasspacks, and they sound absolutely great. I figure I got took pretty
bad, but I really needed a vehicle at the time, so went ahead and paid
$1400 for it anyway. I'm gonna try to shop around, for my next vehicle,
so I can get a good price.

Alright already!! ... you suck!!!!


Yep, major sucking there for sure. And the gloating... well, let's just
say that none of us would have done such a thing - LOL!! Hey, I *love* to
hear other people's one-in-a-million stories because I've never eard one
from myself.

"J T" wrote in message
...
Wed, Aug 1, 2007, 8:39pm (C & E) doth sayeth:
Mmmmm, '78 Camino... me like!!! Spec your mill for us and then we can be
*really* envious.

No need to be too envious, I figure I got took on the deal. New
tires and shocks all around, but it's got those stoopid looking IROC
style wheels, too. The clock doesn't work, and now the radio quit, but
the CD does still work. The air wasn't connected, but the younger son
connected it, purged it, and charged it. And someone took out the 350
originally in it, and replaced it with a rebuilt 307. They did put
something called Vortec heads on it, and something called a Crane cam
that makes it idle rough. Then instead of the good cast iron intake
someone replaced that with an aluminum one. Instead of the good stock
carb that was replaced with what must be a import because it's called
Edelbrock. The air filter isn't paper, but something called a K&N. It
must have been pretty bad, because it's got a new water pump, radiator,
alternater, and a bunch of other stuff too. Oh yeah, the trans was
rebuilt too. But on the bright side, it does have true duals with
glasspacks, and they sound absolutely great. I figure I got took pretty
bad, but I really needed a vehicle at the time, so went ahead and paid
$1400 for it anyway. I'm gonna try to shop around, for my next vehicle,
so I can get a good price.

Where were you when I sold my 1956 T Bird with both tops for $1600.00 (tears
in my eyes) W W


JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

Thu, Aug 2, 2007, 8:31pm (EDT-2) (Warren*Weber)
doth query:
Where were you when I sold my 1956 T Bird with both tops for $1600.00
(tears in my eyes)

I saw it, and passed it up, "because" it was a '56. Now if it had
been a '55, or a '57....

Guy that graduated from high school a couple of years before me got
ahold of a '56, in about '57 or '58. He, or someone, had put a
McCulloch on it. Very cool. And, of course, he was dating the best
looking girl in high school. Me, I had a Whizzer Sportsan, and
occassionaly was alowed to drive a '49 Plymough two-door. Life has
changeded, now I can drive every day.

For the unaware, and the kiddies:. http://www.vs57.com/



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

I remember way back in 83' When I went to Indy with the Monroe Auto Racing
Team during time trials. I was young then and had always dreamed about going
to Indy one day.

well there I was, not only at Indy, but with credentials curtiousy of Monroe
that allowed me to go anywher except for two places. The press tower, and or
the track itself during racing.

I remember getting my first up close look at the indy cars there in Gasoline
Alley. I'd very contently stand there for hours behind the cars, watching
them work on the cars, and tune them up with the engine running, with tears
running down my face from the methanol exhaust fumes. People would stop and
remind me that breathing those fumes was back for my health, but I couldn't
have cared less.

To me I was in heaven.

`
"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:57:18 -0700, charlieb
wrote:


Anyway you can install cut outs so the next Rice Rocket Jockey
can get a real idea of what a V-8 sounds like - in full voice?


Nowadays, even rice jockeys have been some sort of NASCAR event, even
if it's a lower level series. That goes double in JOAT's territory.
Unmuffled V8 sound still isn't that esoteric even though it's been so
long since true muscle cars were produced..

Now, an F1 @ full voice as it runs the entire gearbox or a Top Fuel as
it leaves the line... Now THAT'S somethin' you have to travel to
hear! G


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On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:43:43 -0400, "hdrdtd"
wrote:

. People would stop and
remind me that breathing those fumes was back for my health, but I couldn't
have cared less.

To me I was in heaven.

I know that feeling! G

Once upon a time, I had access to "Hot Pit" passes at Loudon and
Pocono Winston Cup events via Turner Broadcasting, when they sponsored
the Cartoon Network car. We used to rent an R/V and watch the race
from pit wall, and the replays on the team war wagons.

One Sunday morning in Loudon, we stood 30 feet from the exhaust-exit
side of a Roush Racing T-bird on jack stands, as they set the timing
at about 8000 RPM. The sound literally wrinkled our faces! It was
terrifying, and here's some dude leaning over the engine adjusting it!
I'm anally protective of my hearing, and I could care less that
morning! It was music...

4 weeks to Vintage Weekend at Lime Rock Park, where guys bring out one
of a kind road race cars and actually race 'em!

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Fri, Aug 3, 2007, 5:43pm (hdrdtd) doth sayeth:
I remember way back in 83' When I went to Indy with the Monroe Auto
Racing Team during time trials. I was young then and had always dreamed
about going to Indy one day. snip

My trip was in about '56-'57, I believe. Major big deal for me.
Immense amount of fun watching the midget cars racing all night long.
Then next day got a close look at one or two of the Indy cars. But the
race itself was a disappointment. Hear a brrrrr, getting louder and
louder, then a blur zipping by, repeat. I would have loved to go back
to watch the midget cars run again, but as far as the Indy race goes,
it's a case of been there, seen that, don't care to do it again.

Don't care for NASCAR races either, for some of the same reasons.
Nowadays about the only roundy-rounder races I like are short track
races. You can see all the action on the track, they don't go fast
enough to get seriousuly injured in a crash (usually), and they're
usually a bunch of local racers. Otherwise I like racing that goes
right AND left. Except for mud running that is, that's always a lot of
fun. My dau-in-law drove for the first time acouple of weeks ago, she
got 5th, another guy on the team got 2d, and proke an axle, preventing
the other guy n the team from running. My younger son is the crew
chief, made most of the mods on the vehicle himself, and doesn't care to
drive, just wrench.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

If you like dirt track oval racing at all, they have something at the local
track that I've seen a couple of times.

I work for an automotive testing company that happened at one time to
sponsor one of the locals that ran at the local dirt track. Once in a while
we would have a company sponsored outing on a Saturday night.

The local track ran both the standard oval racing as well as figure eight
racing. I had seen figure eight racing as a young kid a long time ago.

In addition to the various heats in each class of oval racing, they had a
special event that was a figure eight race, but they did it with school
busses.! Yep, full size school busses!

Totally insane, and the crowd was on the edge of their seats the entire
race.

As you know, figure eight racing is all about timing your crossing of the
figure eight so you don't collide with another car as you go through the
center intersection. Now instead of short cars, replace them with looong
school busses that aren't terribly fast to begin with. The slower the
vehicle, the longer it takes to cross that center intersection. The longer
the vehicle, the longer it takes before the vehicle clears the intersection.
The longer the vehicle, the bigger gap in the traffic pattern you need in
order to make it through the intersection.

They would usually race between 4-8 busses in each figure eight race.

Incredible to see full size busses going around the curves in the track up
on two (ooops, make that three) wheels.

It was the most fun I'd had in a long time.

"J T" wrote in message
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Fri, Aug 3, 2007, 5:43pm (hdrdtd) doth sayeth:
I remember way back in 83' When I went to Indy with the Monroe Auto
Racing Team during time trials. I was young then and had always dreamed
about going to Indy one day. snip

My trip was in about '56-'57, I believe. Major big deal for me.
Immense amount of fun watching the midget cars racing all night long.
Then next day got a close look at one or two of the Indy cars. But the
race itself was a disappointment. Hear a brrrrr, getting louder and
louder, then a blur zipping by, repeat. I would have loved to go back
to watch the midget cars run again, but as far as the Indy race goes,
it's a case of been there, seen that, don't care to do it again.

Don't care for NASCAR races either, for some of the same reasons.
Nowadays about the only roundy-rounder races I like are short track
races. You can see all the action on the track, they don't go fast
enough to get seriousuly injured in a crash (usually), and they're
usually a bunch of local racers. Otherwise I like racing that goes
right AND left. Except for mud running that is, that's always a lot of
fun. My dau-in-law drove for the first time acouple of weeks ago, she
got 5th, another guy on the team got 2d, and proke an axle, preventing
the other guy n the team from running. My younger son is the crew
chief, made most of the mods on the vehicle himself, and doesn't care to
drive, just wrench.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

"J T" wrote in message
...
Fri, Aug 3, 2007, 5:43pm (hdrdtd) doth sayeth:
I remember way back in 83' When I went to Indy with the Monroe Auto
Racing Team during time trials. I was young then and had always dreamed
about going to Indy one day. snip

My trip was in about '56-'57, I believe. Major big deal for me.
Immense amount of fun watching the midget cars racing all night long.
Then next day got a close look at one or two of the Indy cars. But the
race itself was a disappointment. Hear a brrrrr, getting louder and
louder, then a blur zipping by, repeat. I would have loved to go back
to watch the midget cars run again, but as far as the Indy race goes,
it's a case of been there, seen that, don't care to do it again.


Went there before the last Offenhauser died myself. Guarantee that the
Lotus/Ford sounded nothing like a "brrrrr."

Fri, Aug 3, 2007, 11:29pm
(Timothy*Drouillard) doth sayeth:
If you like dirt track oval racing at all, they have something at the
local track that I've seen a couple of times. snip

They paved the local dirt track years back. But I don't think it
took a thing a way from it doing that. No more dust, so I suppose you
could say it added something.

Figure eight racing never appealed to me. Just accidents waiting
to happen. The only thing along those lines I like is a destruction
derby - kinda stoopid, but fun anyway.

If you want some fun, go to a mud bog.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 14:33:21 -0400, (J T)
wrote:

They paved the local dirt track years back. But I don't think it
took a thing a way from it doing that. No more dust, so I suppose you
could say it added something.

We have a quarter midget dirt track just outside of Springfield, MA. A
few years back, I went to watch a co-worker race there. I got a huge
kick out three ladies in their 70's, who sat in front of me in the
stands, donning safety goggles before the race started!


If you want some fun, go to a mud bog.

I've only seen it on TV, but as a Jeep owner, it looks like a fun way
to spend a summer afternoon! I get a kick out of the water at hood
level.

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Sat, Aug 4, 2007, 11:24pm (EDT+4)
(B*A*R*R*Y) doth sayeth:
snip I've only seen it on TV, but as a Jeep owner, it looks like a fun
way to spend a summer afternoon! I get a kick out of the water at hood
level.

It's one of those things you've got to see live to really
appreciate. Nothing quite like watching a guy blow a $1500 engine,
trying to go one more inch, hoping to wing a $300 first prize. LOL
And, nothing as enjoyable as sitting in the bleachers, watching a groupe
of firt-time spectators on the other side of the pit, getting close, for
a "good view", then getting drenched with mud by the next contestant.
And, then watching a new group some by a few mintes later, and doiing
the exact same thing. LMAO Good clean fun all around.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

Sat, Aug 4, 2007, 11:24pm (EDT+4)
(B*A*R*R*Y) doth sayeth:
snip I've only seen it on TV, but as a Jeep owner, it looks like a fun
way to spend a summer afternoon! I get a kick out of the water at hood
level.

Almost forgot. Was at one where they had a couple of alcholol
buring mchines, not cometing, just making some demo runs. They used
large "paddle" tires on the back, had so much power, and were so fast,
they'd just kinda skip across the much, rather than going thru it.

Well, someone one of them got crossed up in the pit about half way
thru, and wound up sideways, unable to move. So he jfloored it. And
proceeded to put two huge streams of mud over the announcer's stand and
the dozen or so people on it for the next few seconds. Like I said,
this is one of those sports you've got to be there in person to really
appreciate..



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

"J T" wrote in message
...
Sat, Aug 4, 2007, 11:24pm (EDT+4)
(B A R R Y) doth sayeth:
snip I've only seen it on TV, but as a Jeep owner, it looks like a fun
way to spend a summer afternoon! I get a kick out of the water at hood
level.

It's one of those things you've got to see live to really
appreciate. Nothing quite like watching a guy blow a $1500 engine,
trying to go one more inch, hoping to wing a $300 first prize. LOL
And, nothing as enjoyable as sitting in the bleachers, watching a groupe
of firt-time spectators on the other side of the pit, getting close, for
a "good view", then getting drenched with mud by the next contestant.
And, then watching a new group some by a few mintes later, and doiing
the exact same thing. LMAO Good clean fun all around.

Well, maybe not 'clean' fun. (grin)



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:34:53 -0400, (J T)
wrote:

Like I said,
this is one of those sports you've got to be there in person to really
appreciate..

Sounds like fun!

A guy that lives near me sold the inherited family farm to developers
and "retired" in his 30's. His new gig is the professional pulling
circuit, and he's got one of those paddle tired things with (4)
dragster engines on it. I couldn't believe it the first time I saw it
in action.

I would not want to stand behind it.

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Sun, Aug 5, 2007, 5:51pm (B*A*R*R*Y)
doth sayeth:
Sounds like fun!
A guy that lives near me sold the inherited family farm to developers
and "retired" in his 30's. * His new gig is the professional pulling
circuit, and he's got one of those paddle tired things with (4) dragster
engines on it. I couldn't believe it the first time I saw it in action.
I would not want to stand behind it.

I thought the idea of mud bogs were stupid, until I saw my first
one. They may be stupid, but a whole lot of fun too. I'm a fan.

I thought tractor pulls were stupid, until I saw my first one. Now
I know they're stupid, and boring to boot. If I never see another
tractor pull, I'll be happy.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso