I've have a gallon of Franklin TiteBond II wood glue I bought back in
1995 --back when I had more ambitious plans for further woodworking
projects. It's been sitting in a variety of environments, including
sub zero winter temps. I thought I could find an expiration date on
the jug but I can't see it now. The color now is between orange and
"school bus" yellow. It smells vinegary. I went and bought new
little bottle at Lowes yesterday, but I wanted to see how the old
stuff performed before I throw it out.

I took two pieces of scrap yellow pine, spread a circular dab on one
of the flat faces (not on the end grain), mashed the pieces together,
did not clamp, and left it to cure for about 20 hours.

This morning I clamped one end in a vise and tried to knock the other
off with a hammer. It took some effort, they did separate, but the
glue was still obviously stronger than the underlying wood. Big
slivers of wood from
one piece still stuck to the other within the dab circle. With a
fingernail the hardness of the glue was about the same in my
experience as if I used fresh glue. I just wanted to make sure it
wasn't brittle.

The major disadvantage is application. It is way more viscous now.
It would never squeeze out of the bottle thru the applicator tip. I
had to unscrew the cap and squeeze some out thru the bottle end. The
consistency
is close to say refrigerated hot fudge sauce, slightly pasty and a
tiny bit elastic. It is best spread with a putty knife.

I guess I'm not going to throw it out after all, since I eschew waste,
but I probably wouldn't use it for a primo project.

--zeb

I discovered the same thing with a gallon of Elmer's Carpenter's Wood
Glue here recently (and, about the same age).

-- john.

On Jul 22, 9:03 am, wrote:
I've have a gallon of Franklin TiteBond II wood glue I bought back in
1995 --back when I had more ambitious plans for further woodworking
projects. It's been sitting in a variety of environments, including
sub zero winter temps. I thought I could find an expiration date on
the jug but I can't see it now. The color now is between orange and
"school bus" yellow. It smells vinegary. I went and bought new
little bottle at Lowes yesterday, but I wanted to see how the old
stuff performed before I throw it out.

I took two pieces of scrap yellow pine, spread a circular dab on one
of the flat faces (not on the end grain), mashed the pieces together,
did not clamp, and left it to cure for about 20 hours.

This morning I clamped one end in a vise and tried to knock the other
off with a hammer. It took some effort, they did separate, but the
glue was still obviously stronger than the underlying wood. Big
slivers of wood from
one piece still stuck to the other within the dab circle. With a
fingernail the hardness of the glue was about the same in my
experience as if I used fresh glue. I just wanted to make sure it
wasn't brittle.

The major disadvantage is application. It is way more viscous now.
It would never squeeze out of the bottle thru the applicator tip. I
had to unscrew the cap and squeeze some out thru the bottle end. The
consistency
is close to say refrigerated hot fudge sauce, slightly pasty and a
tiny bit elastic. It is best spread with a putty knife.

I guess I'm not going to throw it out after all, since I eschew waste,
but I probably wouldn't use it for a primo project.

--zeb

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I've have a gallon of Franklin TiteBond II wood glue I bought back in
1995 [...]
I guess I'm not going to throw it out after all, since I eschew waste,
but I probably wouldn't use it for a primo project.

What is Titebond? A pva?

Tim W

Tim W wrote:
wrote in message
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I've have a gallon of Franklin TiteBond II wood glue I bought back in
1995 [...]
I guess I'm not going to throw it out after all, since I eschew waste,
but I probably wouldn't use it for a primo project.

What is Titebond? A pva?

yes...

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"Tim W" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I've have a gallon of Franklin TiteBond II wood glue I bought back in
1995 [...]
I guess I'm not going to throw it out after all, since I eschew waste,
but I probably wouldn't use it for a primo project.

What is Titebond? A pva?

Tim W
I never throw mine away. If it gets too thick I thin it with water. You have
to be careful not to add too much water. I talked to a titebond rep at a
show and he said it wouldn't hurt. I've never had a failure with it. I
thinned the red cap bottle. I assume it would also work on the blue capped
bottle also.
I also heard that you can thin Gorilla with acetone. I haven't tried it yet.

On Jul 22, 9:03 am, wrote:
I've have a gallon of Franklin TiteBond II wood glue I bought back in
1995 --back when I had more ambitious plans for further woodworking
projects. It's been sitting in a variety of environments, including
sub zero winter temps. I thought I could find an expiration date on
the jug but I can't see it now. The color now is between orange and
"school bus" yellow. It smells vinegary. I went and bought new
little bottle at Lowes yesterday, but I wanted to see how the old
stuff performed before I throw it out.

I took two pieces of scrap yellow pine, spread a circular dab on one
of the flat faces (not on the end grain), mashed the pieces together,
did not clamp, and left it to cure for about 20 hours.

This morning I clamped one end in a vise and tried to knock the other
off with a hammer. It took some effort, they did separate, but the
glue was still obviously stronger than the underlying wood. Big
slivers of wood from
one piece still stuck to the other within the dab circle. With a
fingernail the hardness of the glue was about the same in my
experience as if I used fresh glue. I just wanted to make sure it
wasn't brittle.

The major disadvantage is application. It is way more viscous now.
It would never squeeze out of the bottle thru the applicator tip. I
had to unscrew the cap and squeeze some out thru the bottle end. The
consistency
is close to say refrigerated hot fudge sauce, slightly pasty and a
tiny bit elastic. It is best spread with a putty knife.

I guess I'm not going to throw it out after all, since I eschew waste,
but I probably wouldn't use it for a primo project.

--zeb

I'm a bit confused. What have you been using for the past 12 years
that allowed the Titebond to languish in storage? You said you won't
use it for a primo project, but it sounds like you wouldn't use it for
anything - unless you haven't glued *anything* in 12 years and you're
now about to start. New glue for primo projects, old glue for basic
stuff. You see my confusion? Kinda of hard to explain.

DerbyDad03 wrote in news:1185178379.246707.288600
@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com:


I'm a bit confused. What have you been using for the past 12 years
that allowed the Titebond to languish in storage? You said you won't
use it for a primo project, but it sounds like you wouldn't use it for
anything - unless you haven't glued *anything* in 12 years and you're
now about to start. New glue for primo projects, old glue for basic
stuff. You see my confusion? Kinda of hard to explain.


If he's like me, probably another bottle of glue. It gets moved (as in
house move) or lost and then stays "unused" for a long time. I've long
since gotten another bottle of glue, and have been happily not using the
first.

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