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I have seen a few posts on chimneys recently in this group.

What is the general rule on chimneys in terms of height ?

How much higher than the roof do they have to be ?
Can they be in line with the roof ?

Is there a law on this ? especially in N. California ?

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I can't speak about the laws of the state of California, but there is a
law of physics that you will regret ignoring. The chimney must be
several feet (I'd say at least 2) higher than the highest point of the
roof.


It would be good to go higher but it is not necessary. The chimney on my
house is not the tallest point and has worked well for 25+ years.




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Don't forget to take into account anything that is around your
building----other buildings trees etc that can create a down draft in your
chimney.
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Question on construction

I have seen a few posts on chimneys recently in this group.

What is the general rule on chimneys in terms of height ?

How much higher than the roof do they have to be ?
Can they be in line with the roof ?

Is there a law on this ? especially in N. California ?

Thanks
Jessica


You should ask in alt.construction, alt.building.construction or even alt
.homerepair



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Question on construction

I have seen a few posts on chimneys recently in this group.

What is the general rule on chimneys in terms of height ?

How much higher than the roof do they have to be ?
Can they be in line with the roof ?


Nope, see the 2, 3, 10 rules here
http://www.usinspect.com/car/0104Tec...mneyHeight.asp


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That would pretty well eliminate having a fireplace in a house.

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In my area, the topmost of the chimney had to be at least 10 feet

horizontally away from the nearest roof plane. Tom



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I can't speak about the laws of the state of California, but there is a
law of physics that you will regret ignoring. *The chimney must be
several feet (I'd say at least 2) higher than the highest point of the
roof.It would be good to go higher but it is not necessary. *The chimney on my

house is not the tallest point and has worked well for 25+ years.


All the references, and my own experience, show that it needs to be at
least 2' higher than any point within 10' in order to get a proper
draft. Doesn't matter whether what's within 10' is a tree or a roof
line.



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I can't speak about the laws of the state of California, but there is a
law of physics that you will regret ignoring. The chimney must be
several feet (I'd say at least 2) higher than the highest point of the
roof.It would be good to go higher but it is not necessary. The chimney
on my

house is not the tallest point and has worked well for 25+ years.


All the references, and my own experience, show that it needs to be at
least 2' higher than any point within 10' in order to get a proper
draft. Doesn't matter whether what's within 10' is a tree or a roof
line.


Yeah, I know referenced do call for that but I believe that with those specs
you are pretty much insured to have a good draft. However as with my house
and the several in the neighborhood that are built like mine the chimney is
not taller than the peak of the house. Perhaps the specs will work in "any
situation" and my set up works if the roof is like mine.


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That would pretty well eliminate having a fireplace in a house.

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In my area, the topmost of the chimney had to be at least 10 feet

horizontally away from the nearest roof plane. Tom
Why would you say that? Although I'd agree with the "2 feet higher" spec, do you think it wouldn't draw? Tom


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As stated, no roof could be within a 10 foot radius of a chimney. That
pretty well limits you to a free standing chimney away from the house,
assuming you have a roof. You left something out.

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That would pretty well eliminate having a fireplace in a house.

"tom" wrote in message
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In my area, the topmost of the chimney had to be at least 10 feet

horizontally away from the nearest roof plane. Tom

Why would you say that? Although I'd agree with the "2 feet higher" spec, do
you think it wouldn't draw? Tom



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I can't speak about the laws of the state of California, but there is a
law of physics that you will regret ignoring. The chimney must be
several feet (I'd say at least 2) higher than the highest point of the
roof.


I believe this is a function of distance from the peak. Over a certain
distance, I don't believe you have to maintain a height higher than the
peak.

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Question on construction

I have seen a few posts on chimneys recently in this group.

What is the general rule on chimneys in terms of height ?

How much higher than the roof do they have to be ?
Can they be in line with the roof ?

Is there a law on this ? especially in N. California ?



There are ground rules dictated by the laws of physics.

The 'usual case form' of which are usually included in local building codes.

That said, there _are_ ways to make a chimney work
in 'unconventional situations.

In the house I grew up in, when we remodeled and added a fireplace, the
chimney top was around 10 foot below the neighbor's roof-line (about 14
feet away), below two roof peaks on our house (8 feet, and 15 feet away),
and there was a large locust tree (estimated 20 ft taller), less than 4 feet
away.

The brick-mason _refused_ to build it, until the architect had a lengthy
discussion with him ; he *knew* -- from years of experience -- that that
fireplace would never draw right.

He would have been right, but the architect knew what he was doing, and
had already ordered, what was then called a 'draft inducer' -- a -big-
(entirely passive) 'pot' that installed on the top of the chimney, and
more than made up for the 'obstacles' surrounding the chimney. As I
recall, we _did_ have to get a 'variance' from the city allowing the
construction, since it _was_ contrary to code standard.



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CW wrote:
As stated, no roof could be within a 10 foot radius of a chimney. That
pretty well limits you to a free standing chimney away from the house,
assuming you have a roof. You left something out.

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CW wrote:
That would pretty well eliminate having a fireplace in a house.

"tom" wrote in message
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In my area, the topmost of the chimney had to be at least 10 feet
horizontally away from the nearest roof plane. Tom

Why would you say that? Although I'd agree with the "2 feet higher" spec, do
you think it wouldn't draw? Tom
I'm trying to figure what I might have left out to cause you to conclude this. As stated, the "topmost" or cap of the chimney (Maybe that's it: Not the chimney per se) was to be a minimum of 10 feet in a horizontal axis from the nearest roof plane. Sorry about the miscommunication, I thought I was clear. Tom


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In my area, the topmost of the chimney had to be at least 10 feet
horizontally away from the nearest roof plane.


I'm trying to figure what I might have left out to cause you to conclude
this. As stated, the "topmost" or cap of the chimney (Maybe that's it: Not
the chimney per se) was to be a minimum of 10 feet in a horizontal axis
from the nearest roof plane. Sorry about the miscommunication, I thought
I was clear. Tom


Isn't the chimney right next to the nearest roof plane? We know what
you meant, but look at the literal translation of what you wrote.

More formally is can read:
provide a minimum of 2 feet clearance to all roof surfaces and structures
within 10 feet of the chimney and 3 feet above the highest point that the
chimney penetrates the roof (i.e. the side of the chimney furthest up the
roof slope). This is a national code, outlined in section FG503.5.4 of the
International Fuel Gas Code.





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Charlie,

That also happens to be the building code in most parts of the country
(using one of the three national codes.)

Measure the highest point within 10' from the chimney, make the top 2'
higher than that.

Old guy


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I can't speak about the laws of the state of California, but there is a
law of physics that you will regret ignoring. The chimney must be
several feet (I'd say at least 2) higher than the highest point of the
roof.It would be good to go higher but it is not necessary. The chimney
on my

house is not the tallest point and has worked well for 25+ years.


All the references, and my own experience, show that it needs to be at
least 2' higher than any point within 10' in order to get a proper
draft. Doesn't matter whether what's within 10' is a tree or a roof
line.


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