Is there a difference between a flush trim and a flush trim pattern bit. Is
it semantics? Is the pilot in a different place (near the shank vs. near
the end)? Is the pilot on one end used for the router and the other used
for the router in a table? Rockler seems to show a difference on their
site, but before I go and waste money I thought I would ask.

Basically I want to make a few table saw inserts (dado blade, zero
clearance) using my so far unused router table. I have a few bits labeled
as *flush trim* bits with the pilot near the end. Is this what I need? Do
I need to get a bit with the pilot near the shank?

Thanks

Jordan

You can use either one. Just depends on which side you mount the pattern.
"Jordan" wrote in message
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Is there a difference between a flush trim and a flush trim pattern bit.
Is
it semantics? Is the pilot in a different place (near the shank vs. near
the end)? Is the pilot on one end used for the router and the other used
for the router in a table? Rockler seems to show a difference on their
site, but before I go and waste money I thought I would ask.

Basically I want to make a few table saw inserts (dado blade, zero
clearance) using my so far unused router table. I have a few bits labeled
as *flush trim* bits with the pilot near the end. Is this what I need?
Do
I need to get a bit with the pilot near the shank?

Thanks

Jordan

Sample at the: http://patwarner.com/patternbits.html link.
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Jordan wrote:
Is there a difference between a flush trim and a flush trim pattern bit. Is
it semantics? Is the pilot in a different place (near the shank vs. near
the end)? Is the pilot on one end used for the router and the other used
for the router in a table? Rockler seems to show a difference on their
site, but before I go and waste money I thought I would ask.

Basically I want to make a few table saw inserts (dado blade, zero
clearance) using my so far unused router table. I have a few bits labeled
as *flush trim* bits with the pilot near the end. Is this what I need? Do
I need to get a bit with the pilot near the shank?

Thanks

Jordan

Jordan wrote:
Is there a difference between a flush trim and a flush trim pattern bit. Is
it semantics? Is the pilot in a different place (near the shank vs. near
the end)? Is the pilot on one end used for the router and the other used
for the router in a table? Rockler seems to show a difference on their
site, but before I go and waste money I thought I would ask.

Basically I want to make a few table saw inserts (dado blade, zero
clearance) using my so far unused router table. I have a few bits labeled
as *flush trim* bits with the pilot near the end. Is this what I need? Do
I need to get a bit with the pilot near the shank?

Thanks

Jordan

Unless you are just looking for an excuse to buy another bit, use one
of the bits you have. Use the bit with the largest diameter and/or
shortest cutting length as long as the cutting length is still longer
than the thickness of your wood to be cut.

I have a slight preference for the bearing on the end of the bit
because that way I don't have a lot of exposed bit sticking up above
the work waiting to mince any errant fingers. But the bearing on the
shank is stronger and has less deflection because the sideways pressure
on the bearing is closer to the collet.

DonkeyHody
"In theory, theory and practice should be the same. But in practice,
they're not."

Also keep in mind flush trimmers are not for hogging off material. Cut the
shape pretty close first on a bandsaw or jigsaw and all will go
ell. --dave

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Jordan wrote:
Is there a difference between a flush trim and a flush trim pattern bit.
Is
it semantics? Is the pilot in a different place (near the shank vs. near
the end)? Is the pilot on one end used for the router and the other used
for the router in a table? Rockler seems to show a difference on their
site, but before I go and waste money I thought I would ask.

Basically I want to make a few table saw inserts (dado blade, zero
clearance) using my so far unused router table. I have a few bits
labeled
as *flush trim* bits with the pilot near the end. Is this what I need?
Do
I need to get a bit with the pilot near the shank?

Thanks

Jordan

Unless you are just looking for an excuse to buy another bit, use one
of the bits you have. Use the bit with the largest diameter and/or
shortest cutting length as long as the cutting length is still longer
than the thickness of your wood to be cut.

I have a slight preference for the bearing on the end of the bit
because that way I don't have a lot of exposed bit sticking up above
the work waiting to mince any errant fingers. But the bearing on the
shank is stronger and has less deflection because the sideways pressure
on the bearing is closer to the collet.

DonkeyHody
"In theory, theory and practice should be the same. But in practice,
they're not."

Typically a flush trim bit has the bearing on the end, the pattern bit has
the cutter on the end.


"Jordan" wrote in message
. ..
Is there a difference between a flush trim and a flush trim pattern bit.
Is it semantics? Is the pilot in a different place (near the shank vs.
near the end)? Is the pilot on one end used for the router and the other
used for the router in a table? Rockler seems to show a difference on
their site, but before I go and waste money I thought I would ask.

Basically I want to make a few table saw inserts (dado blade, zero
clearance) using my so far unused router table. I have a few bits labeled
as *flush trim* bits with the pilot near the end. Is this what I need?
Do I need to get a bit with the pilot near the shank?

Thanks

Jordan

Thanks everyone.... I will give it a try with what I have and go buy the
other if I have trouble.

"Jordan" wrote in message
. ..
Is there a difference between a flush trim and a flush trim pattern bit.
Is it semantics? Is the pilot in a different place (near the shank vs.
near the end)? Is the pilot on one end used for the router and the other
used for the router in a table? Rockler seems to show a difference on
their site, but before I go and waste money I thought I would ask.

Basically I want to make a few table saw inserts (dado blade, zero
clearance) using my so far unused router table. I have a few bits labeled
as *flush trim* bits with the pilot near the end. Is this what I need?
Do I need to get a bit with the pilot near the shank?

Thanks

Jordan