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Lowes RANT!
Have been asking lumber yards and other places about Baltic Birch ply
availability getting mostly half blank stares as if they hadn't heard of it before. Recently went to plywood section of local Lowes and there was a single slab of 1/2" X 5' X 5'. Asked where the rest was being stored and wood section Mgr said that piece was special order and walked away with it under his arm. There was a stack of 3/4" X 4' X 8' labeled Birch ply that had characteristic thin plies making up the total 23/32" thickness that the Mgr identified as BB. Also some 1/4" X 4' X 8'slabs were there and he said that was all they carried. Search of their site discloses "Not available at that store". I sent mail asking how it not available but it was there from special order. So far that is still open. Suggested in the mail they work up a query option by product name or category listing what items CAN be special ordered. They answered the mail stating it would be forwarded to appropriate people and they called at 7PM to say the same thing. |
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wrote in message ... Have been asking lumber yards and other places about Baltic Birch ply availability getting mostly half blank stares as if they hadn't heard of it before. Recently went to plywood section of local Lowes and there was a single slab of 1/2" X 5' X 5'. Asked where the rest was being stored and wood section Mgr said that piece was special order and walked away with it under his arm. There was a stack of 3/4" X 4' X 8' labeled Birch ply that had characteristic thin plies making up the total 23/32" thickness that the Mgr identified as BB. Also some 1/4" X 4' X 8'slabs were there and he said that was all they carried. Search of their site discloses "Not available at that store". I sent mail asking how it not available but it was there from special order. So far that is still open. Suggested in the mail they work up a query option by product name or category listing what items CAN be special ordered. They answered the mail stating it would be forwarded to appropriate people and they called at 7PM to say the same thing. You expect them to carry LN planes, too? The difference between them and a Stanley is about the same as between standard and multiply versions of birch with the same display faces. This is a home center, for cryin' out loud. |
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So what's the problem?
Put in a special order, and the manager will keep other lookers from walking off with YOUR piece of wood. It's also available by mail.... Old Guy wrote in message ... Have been asking lumber yards and other places about Baltic Birch ply availability getting mostly half blank stares as if they hadn't heard of it before. Recently went to plywood section of local Lowes and there was a single slab of 1/2" X 5' X 5'. Asked where the rest was being stored and wood section Mgr said that piece was special order and walked away with it under his arm. There was a stack of 3/4" X 4' X 8' labeled Birch ply that had characteristic thin plies making up the total 23/32" thickness that the Mgr identified as BB. Also some 1/4" X 4' X 8'slabs were there and he said that was all they carried. Search of their site discloses "Not available at that store". I sent mail asking how it not available but it was there from special order. So far that is still open. Suggested in the mail they work up a query option by product name or category listing what items CAN be special ordered. They answered the mail stating it would be forwarded to appropriate people and they called at 7PM to say the same thing. |
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wrote in message ... Have been asking lumber yards and other places about Baltic Birch ply availability getting mostly half blank stares as if they hadn't heard of it before. Recently went to plywood section of local Lowes and there was a single slab of 1/2" X 5' X 5'. Asked where the rest was being stored and wood section Mgr said that piece was special order and walked away with it under his arm. There was a stack of 3/4" X 4' X 8' labeled Birch ply that had characteristic thin plies making up the total 23/32" thickness that the Mgr identified as BB. Also some 1/4" X 4' X 8'slabs were there and he said that was all they carried. Search of their site discloses "Not available at that store". I sent mail asking how it not available but it was there from special order. So far that is still open. Suggested in the mail they work up a query option by product name or category listing what items CAN be special ordered. They answered the mail stating it would be forwarded to appropriate people and they called at 7PM to say the same thing. I noticed that they do not carry Cocobolo either. |
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 04:39:43 -0500, nospambob wrote:
Have been asking lumber yards and other places about Baltic Birch ply availability getting mostly half blank stares as if they hadn't heard of it before. Recently went to plywood section of local Lowes and there was a single slab of 1/2" X 5' X 5'. Asked where the rest was being stored and wood section Mgr said that piece was special order and walked away with it under his arm. There was a stack of 3/4" X 4' X 8' labeled Birch ply that had characteristic thin plies making up the total 23/32" thickness that the Mgr identified as BB. Also some 1/4" X 4' X 8'slabs were there and he said that was all they carried. Search of their site discloses "Not available at that store". I sent mail asking how it not available but it was there from special order. So far that is still open. Suggested in the mail they work up a query option by product name or category listing what items CAN be special ordered. They answered the mail stating it would be forwarded to appropriate people and they called at 7PM to say the same thing. I'm curious--where are you located? Several yards in this area (Connecticut) have Baltic Birch, but they're hardwood yards, not softwood yards. It's not something I would expect to find at Lowes or Home Depot. Have you tried http://www.woodfinder.com? It's not comprehensive or always accurate but it's sometimes a useful starting point. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message link.net... wrote: Have been asking lumber yards and other places about Baltic Birch ply availability getting mostly half blank stares as if they hadn't heard of it before. So what is your problem? Do you expect to find a new Rolls Royce at the Chevrolet dealership? Lew Menards has it. |
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I have a rant but it is about a tool.
My boss wanted to re-do is deck with Trex. But he did not want to face screw it and wanted a hidden fastening system. To which I had no control of what he ordered or wanted. So he had a couple of options at the lumber yard where we have credit. One option was a tiger claw system where you tap one clip on each joist into the first piece of Trex and the next piece gets driven into that and you keep repeating this. The second option he had was a biscuit type system that and you used stainless steel screws once you cut all the biscuit slots. This is the method he chose. Which I was fine with I just install. So we had to buy a biscuit cutter to cut some 100's worth of biscuits. We purchased a Porter Cable from Lowe's. About a month ago we had to do the same process at his beach house. We need to replace the blade. Fine we go to Lowe's search for the blade. They do not sell it. We tried HD they don't sell it the blade either. I said to the guy in the tool department. "How can you sell a tool but not the blade?" His response was "That is the way things are done." And then he told me to try a hardware store. |
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In article , "Will" wrote:
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message hlink.net... wrote: Have been asking lumber yards and other places about Baltic Birch ply availability getting mostly half blank stares as if they hadn't heard of it before. So what is your problem? Do you expect to find a new Rolls Royce at the Chevrolet dealership? Lew Menards has it. Rolls Royces? At Menards? Oh, wait. Never mind. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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Forget Lowe's. If they had BB it would be too high, like their hardwood. Look around for a hardwood dealer and they will ususally handle Baltic Birch. There are 2 or 3 in our area that sell it at a reasonable price. Several of the independent lumber yards do too. The only drawback so far is they do not always stock the 'A' grade. I occasionally have to settle for a occasional veneer-filled hole (no filler). RonB |
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Honestly replacing blades on biscuit cutters is a pretty rare
occurance. I suppose the Trex is more abrasive than normal wood. I wouldn't expect each store to carry a blade that might never get sold. Yes, retail has to carry lots of inventory but I would give them a pass on this non-typical item. The only analogy I can come up with (I love analogies) is expecting them to carry a replacement chuck for every brand and model of drill they carry. Yes, chucks go bad but it is not a typical occurance. Bill Davis Jr wrote: I have a rant but it is about a tool. My boss wanted to re-do is deck with Trex. But he did not want to face screw it and wanted a hidden fastening system. To which I had no control of what he ordered or wanted. So he had a couple of options at the lumber yard where we have credit. One option was a tiger claw system where you tap one clip on each joist into the first piece of Trex and the next piece gets driven into that and you keep repeating this. The second option he had was a biscuit type system that and you used stainless steel screws once you cut all the biscuit slots. This is the method he chose. Which I was fine with I just install. So we had to buy a biscuit cutter to cut some 100's worth of biscuits. We purchased a Porter Cable from Lowe's. About a month ago we had to do the same process at his beach house. We need to replace the blade. Fine we go to Lowe's search for the blade. They do not sell it. We tried HD they don't sell it the blade either. I said to the guy in the tool department. "How can you sell a tool but not the blade?" His response was "That is the way things are done." And then he told me to try a hardware store. |
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You guys are funny, I've only been in 3 lowes. I've been asked to leave all three and not come back. I've happily agreed. I prefer the pro's. Lou. |
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Mark Blum wrote:
Same for my local dealer, who stocks the lower grade. Kind of annoying to have a football-shaped patch on the "good" side. Nobody else anywhere nearby stocks it at all. For those of you looking for B/B inventory at reasonable prices, have you tried to find a plywood distributor. Here in SoCal, have at least 3-4 to choose from. AT least one of them is on line and will ship. Last time I was there, they were sending a shipment of something to New Zealand. I don't waste time with lumber yards, DIY centers, etc. Lew |
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Seeing as baltic birch is seldom used as sheathing or floor underlayment, I
wouldn't expect Lowes to carry it. wrote in message ... Have been asking lumber yards and other places about Baltic Birch ply availability getting mostly half blank stares as if they hadn't heard of it before. Recently went to plywood section of local Lowes and there was a single slab of 1/2" X 5' X 5'. Asked where the rest was being stored and wood section Mgr said that piece was special order and walked away with it under his arm. There was a stack of 3/4" X 4' X 8' labeled Birch ply that had characteristic thin plies making up the total 23/32" thickness that the Mgr identified as BB. Also some 1/4" X 4' X 8'slabs were there and he said that was all they carried. Search of their site discloses "Not available at that store". I sent mail asking how it not available but it was there from special order. So far that is still open. Suggested in the mail they work up a query option by product name or category listing what items CAN be special ordered. They answered the mail stating it would be forwarded to appropriate people and they called at 7PM to say the same thing. |
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The only place I've ever heard of Menards is here. Never seen one.
"Will" wrote in message ... Menards has it. |
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Mark Blum wrote:
We have one plywood distributor nearby (South Jersey), but they will only sell to the trade. CASH works wonders in situations like that. South Jersey tells me you are metro Philly. Got to be lots of fish in that pond who will do business. Lew |
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"Lou" wrote in message oups.com... You guys are funny, I've only been in 3 lowes. I've been asked to leave all three and not come back. I've happily agreed. I prefer the pro's. Lou. I'm proud of you. I've only been asked to leave and never come back at one store. You got me beat. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
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wrote: Have been asking lumber yards and other places about Baltic Birch ply availability getting mostly half blank stares as if they hadn't heard of it before. Recently went to plywood section of local Lowes and there was a single slab of 1/2" X 5' X 5'. Asked where the rest was being stored and wood section Mgr said that piece was special order and walked away with it under his arm. There was a stack of 3/4" X 4' X 8' labeled Birch ply that had characteristic thin plies making up the total 23/32" thickness that the Mgr identified as BB. Also some 1/4" X 4' X 8'slabs were there and he said that was all they carried. Search of their site discloses "Not available at that store". I sent mail asking how it not available but it was there from special order. So far that is still open. Suggested in the mail they work up a query option by product name or category listing what items CAN be special ordered. They answered the mail stating it would be forwarded to appropriate people and they called at 7PM to say the same thing. Where's the rant? -- Contentment makes poor men rich. Discontent makes rich men poor. --Benjamin Franklin Larry Wasserman - Baltimore, Maryland - |
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Bill Davis Jr wrote: I have a rant but it is about a tool. ...snipped... Fine we go to Lowe's search for the blade. They do not sell it. We tried HD they don't sell it the blade either. I said to the guy in the tool department. "How can you sell a tool but not the blade?" His response was "That is the way things are done." And then he told me to try a hardware store. I think you have too high expectations of Lowes & HD and for that matter, most hardware stores also. A biscuit cutter is not a very common tool, compared to say a circular saw or drill, and the replacement blades would be a low volume item for any retail store. I know of a few tool dealers in my area that probably stock a replacement blade for biscuit joiners (Ooops, _almost_ put that 't' in there!) but honestly, If I needed to replace mine, my first thought would be mail order. -- Contentment makes poor men rich. Discontent makes rich men poor. --Benjamin Franklin Larry Wasserman - Baltimore, Maryland - |
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Mark Blum wrote:
Same for my local dealer, who stocks the lower grade. Kind of annoying to have a football-shaped patch on the "good" side. What's more annoying is being totally baffled as to which side is supposed to the BE the good side. G |
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In article . net, "CW" wrote:
The only place I've ever heard of Menards is here. Never seen one. It's another big-box home improvement chain, but not national. They're in the upper-Midwest only, with the largest concentrations of stores in the Chicago, Minneapolis, and Indianapolis regions. http://www3.menards.com/menards?mm_d...torefinder.jsp -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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"George" wrote in message . .. You expect them to carry LN planes, too? The difference between them and a Stanley is about the same as between standard and multiply versions of birch with the same display faces. This is a home center, for cryin' out loud. George - sit down and be quiet. Don't you know it's fashionable to rag on Home Depot and Lowes? It gives one a certain... oh, shall we say, a "lofty feeling". -- -Mike- |
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
South Jersey tells me you are metro Philly. Got to be lots of fish in that pond who will do business. When got serious about woodworking, I was shocked at the number of good hardwood, plywood, and finishing sources we have here in CT. Ask at local tool stores, call local cabinet shops, etc.. My early leads came from Woodworkers Warehouse employees. Ask the store employees where they buy their wood. Don't expect the dealers to be slickly merchandised stores in a strip mall. The places you want will often be located in industrial areas, sometimes "across the tracks". G Some cabinet and millwork shops will even sell stock and supplies. If you sound like a "time hole", you'll probably get blown off. Know what you want or be willing to accept suggestions, and you may develop a very helpful and convenient relationship. Be aware that credit cards may not be accepted outside of the DIY / retail channel. Plan on cash or a check. Green cash can result in discounts. Lots of places who sell to "the trade" WILL deal with you under the right circumstances. |
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:28:01 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote: "Lou" wrote in message roups.com... You guys are funny, I've only been in 3 lowes. I've been asked to leave all three and not come back. I've happily agreed. I prefer the pro's. Lou. I'm proud of you. I've only been asked to leave and never come back at one store. You got me beat. I am sorry, but I just can't even imagine how big of a dick someone would have to be to be asked to leave a Home Depot or Lowes, let alone three. Dave Hall |
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I'm curious too.
How does one get thrown out of a lowes? "Lou" wrote in message oups.com... You guys are funny, I've only been in 3 lowes. I've been asked to leave all three and not come back. I've happily agreed. I prefer the pro's. Lou. |
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(Doug Miller) writes:
In article . net, "CW" wrote: The only place I've ever heard of Menards is here. Never seen one. It's another big-box home improvement chain, but not national. They're in the upper-Midwest only, with the largest concentrations of stores in the Chicago, Minneapolis, and Indianapolis regions. http://www3.menards.com/menards?mm_d...torefinder.jsp I'm not sure I'd classify them as big-box, unless they've changed considerably in the last 10 years or so. More like Orchard Supply Hardware in the SF bay area; big hardware stores with lumber yards, usually outdoors. scott |
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Dave Hall writes:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:28:01 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: "Lou" wrote in message groups.com... You guys are funny, I've only been in 3 lowes. I've been asked to leave all three and not come back. I've happily agreed. I prefer the pro's. Lou. I'm proud of you. I've only been asked to leave and never come back at one store. You got me beat. I am sorry, but I just can't even imagine how big of a dick someone would have to be to be asked to leave a Home Depot or Lowes, let alone three. And be proud of it. scott |
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Lou wrote: You guys are funny, I've only been in 3 lowes. I've been asked to leave all three and not come back. I've happily agreed. I prefer the pro's. Lou. After you got thrown out of the first one (and was glad), why did you go to two other ones? Is this your idea of entertainment, annoying store employees to the point that they ask you to leave? It's not the fault of the people working on the floor that the store is stocked the way it is, that decision is made by management way above them. They are just trying to earn a living, and there's no excuse to be a jerk to them. |
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Well, the size of my dick has nothing to do with it, but thanks for thinking with yours. When your used to dealing with inteligent people for materials and you venture into a Lowes. You end up talking to the hired help and can't help thinking that there are plenty of people who are actually good at job but are unemployed, and then you have Lowes. They must have to fail an IQ test just to get on the payroll. I have yet to meet less inteligent then the people who work there unless you consider the people who think its a great store. Good luck with that dick thing. Lou |
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It all comes full circle baby. With aholes like the guys that get
tossed out of big box hardware stores can you blame the wholesale guys for not wanting to sell to the public? B A R R Y wrote: Lew Hodgett wrote: South Jersey tells me you are metro Philly. Got to be lots of fish in that pond who will do business. When got serious about woodworking, I was shocked at the number of good hardwood, plywood, and finishing sources we have here in CT. Ask at local tool stores, call local cabinet shops, etc.. My early leads came from Woodworkers Warehouse employees. Ask the store employees where they buy their wood. Don't expect the dealers to be slickly merchandised stores in a strip mall. The places you want will often be located in industrial areas, sometimes "across the tracks". G Some cabinet and millwork shops will even sell stock and supplies. If you sound like a "time hole", you'll probably get blown off. Know what you want or be willing to accept suggestions, and you may develop a very helpful and convenient relationship. Be aware that credit cards may not be accepted outside of the DIY / retail channel. Plan on cash or a check. Green cash can result in discounts. Lots of places who sell to "the trade" WILL deal with you under the right circumstances. |
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:46:21 -0800, Lou wrote:
Well, the size of my dick has nothing to do with it, but thanks for thinking with yours. When your used to dealing with inteligent people for materials and you venture into a Lowes. You end up talking to the hired help and can't help thinking that there are plenty of people who are actually good at job but are unemployed, and then you have Lowes. They must have to fail an IQ test just to get on the payroll. I have yet to meet less inteligent then the people who work there unless you consider the people who think its a great store. Good luck with that dick thing. plonk -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"Lou" wrote:
When your used to dealing with inteligent people for materials and you venture into a Lowes. Nice sentence. I have yet to meet less inteligent then the people who work there unless you consider the people who think its a great store. If your[sic] looking too see less inteligent[sic] then[sic] the people who work at Lowes, there's one place to check -- its[sic] a mirror. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
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..If your[sic] looking too see less inteligent[sic] then[sic] the people
who work at Lowes, there's one place to check -- its[sic] a mirror. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. I'm sorry to hear that your mirror has this problem. Lou |
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"Lou" wrote in message ups.com... .If your[sic] looking too see less inteligent[sic] then[sic] the people who work at Lowes, there's one place to check -- its[sic] a mirror. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. I'm sorry to hear that your mirror has this problem. Lou Who permitted a 3 y/o to post here? Grow up or tell your mommy to take the computer away from you. |
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That sure describes Menard's. Big hardware store with a big lumberyard.
Their tool stock isn't as good as Lowe's but their lumber is much better. Scott Lurndal wrote: (Doug Miller) writes: In article . net, "CW" wrote: The only place I've ever heard of Menards is here. Never seen one. It's another big-box home improvement chain, but not national. They're in the upper-Midwest only, with the largest concentrations of stores in the Chicago, Minneapolis, and Indianapolis regions. http://www3.menards.com/menards?mm_d...torefinder.jsp I'm not sure I'd classify them as big-box, unless they've changed considerably in the last 10 years or so. More like Orchard Supply Hardware in the SF bay area; big hardware stores with lumber yards, usually outdoors. scott |
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I think I just have.
Lou wrote: Well, the size of my dick has nothing to do with it, but thanks for thinking with yours. When your used to dealing with inteligent people for materials and you venture into a Lowes. You end up talking to the hired help and can't help thinking that there are plenty of people who are actually good at job but are unemployed, and then you have Lowes. They must have to fail an IQ test just to get on the payroll. I have yet to meet less inteligent then the people who work there |
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LouWho permitted a 3 y/o to post here? Grow up or tell your mommy to take the computer away from you. Wow, So you really think that a 3 year old can match you thought for thought. I feel sorry for your family. Lou |
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