Leon,

How big / heavy is the main 22-44 shipping container? Is it something a
healthy 40 year old can get off of a freight truck alone, maybe with a
pickup bed in between? I have ramps, dollies, hand trucks, etc...

I've seen estimates of 209 and 289 pounds. 209 is easily dealt with,
289 is bit harder. G

All of my larger tools were purchased locally and loaded on my equipment
with a forklift, this the first heavy tool I'm having delivered.

Thanks!

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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Leon,

How big / heavy is the main 22-44 shipping container? Is it something a
healthy 40 year old can get off of a freight truck alone, maybe with a
pickup bed in between? I have ramps, dollies, hand trucks, etc...

The container is about 48"x24"x24"
You are looking at over 200#'s. It is heavy. I slid mine to the end of the
tailgate on my truck and let it pivot down and slide to the floor.


I've seen estimates of 209 and 289 pounds. 209 is easily dealt with, 289
is bit harder. G

I think the 289 is with the conveyor and closed stand.


All of my larger tools were purchased locally and loaded on my equipment
with a forklift, this the first heavy tool I'm having delivered.

Thanks!

You could easily slide it down a 8' 2x12 from the trailer to your truck
and probably to the ground from a truck trailer.

The really hard part was getting the sander with out tearing up the box.
;~) It's well packed in Styrofoam. Also the sander is top heavy and
difficult to set onto the stand. I would not try that by myself.
Fortunately there are 2 cut outs on both ends of the base for your hand to
grab when lifting.

As usual I am a product tester. I have tracking problems with my conveyor
belt and Performax/Jet is sending me a new belt. I hope that fixes it other
wise I'll probably have to wait for a new conveyor assembly.

"Leon" wrote in message

As usual I am a product tester. I have tracking problems with my conveyor
belt and Performax/Jet is sending me a new belt. I hope that fixes it
other
wise I'll probably have to wait for a new conveyor assembly.

Drats ... I've got a 20" x 40" glued up panel that needs sanding.

I hate when I buy something that's broke before I get chance to break it
myself!

Actually, I'm heading out to the shop right now to run through some grits
while the weather is holding.

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Last update: 12/25/06

"Swingman" wrote in message
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"Leon" wrote in message

As usual I am a product tester. I have tracking problems with my
conveyor
belt and Performax/Jet is sending me a new belt. I hope that fixes it
other
wise I'll probably have to wait for a new conveyor assembly.

Drats ... I've got a 20" x 40" glued up panel that needs sanding.

I wish you were here sanding that board. Actually I am going to have to get
some finer grits. The one that comes on it is more for dimensioning. My
planer leaves a smoother surface. Other than the tracking problem it works
very well.

I hate when I buy something that's broke before I get chance to break it
myself!

It seems that everything that I buy or order these days has some hitch.
Unfortunately I have come to expect it. My dealer gave me another conveyer
belt to try but it was 3/32" too wide. ;~(


Actually, I'm heading out to the shop right now to run through some grits
while the weather is holding.

I'll be heading over to my parents house to assemble and set up every thing
that we gave them for Christmas. Maybe tomorrow I'll unpack the 12" disc
sander.

See you tonight.

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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Leon:

Good news! My sander works very well.

I'm not trying to break 'em off on you, but pointing out that your
replacement parts will probably have you up and running well.



GREAT! I am happy you are up and running. I'm sure that my new belt will
be the fix, if not, it's not like I would have to replace the whole machine
if the conveyor has to be replaced. I used it a little and it does seem to
sand nicely for a heavy grit. I found that while making light passes that I
can run this machine and my 1100 cfm Jet dust collector on a 15 amp circuit.
Not a big deal but it is a bit less trouble than running an extra extension
cord to the 20 amp circuit.

Heavy, ain't it. ;~)

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:26:16 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

As usual I am a product tester. I have tracking problems with my conveyor
belt and Performax/Jet is sending me a new belt. I hope that fixes it other
wise I'll probably have to wait for a new conveyor assembly.


Please keep us posted on that. I got the same machine in July and
have had a terrible time getting the conveyor to track properly.


--
Chuck Taylor
http://home.hiwaay.net/~taylorc/contact/

"Chuck Taylor" wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:26:16 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

As usual I am a product tester. I have tracking problems with my conveyor
belt and Performax/Jet is sending me a new belt. I hope that fixes it
other
wise I'll probably have to wait for a new conveyor assembly.


Please keep us posted on that. I got the same machine in July and
have had a terrible time getting the conveyor to track properly.


Well, it will track properly or the machine will go back. I'd be calling
Performax if I were you.
There is no excuse for a machine to not work properly.

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:08:30 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:


Heavy, ain't it. ;~)


You got that right!

I did a the bottom shelf, top, and some door frame pieces for a QSWO
sideboard with the included 80 grit wrap. Taking the parts to 150
(and ready for a BLO rub and sanding sealer) with a ROS was a real
cakewalk after flattening with the machine. The top is wider than 22
inches, and I had no problems at all sanding it with the machine set
up as delivered. No grooves, ridges, etc...

I did have the occasional snipe as I developed a technique, but all of
it was gone by the time I finished.

I read some here that you can get divots as the surface gets narrower such
as when a rail and stile door goes through and the rail is no longer under
the drum.



What I learned today:

Too much and too little of a bite can mess up the feed. Too much? The
red light illuminates, and the sander does a great job slowing the
feed to compensate. Too little? PUUUSSSSH and then PUUUULLLL ! G

The out feed and in feed tables are useful as a non-moving place to rest
the work on as you get ready to feed it, or to turn a large part. They
are not useful in the same respect as a planer.

They do little on large planers too. I use my 2' long in feed and out feeds
on my big Delta planer strictly for holding the work as it goes in and out.
I get the same results if I fold them down and not use them at all.


The operator needs to hold the work, the sanding head doesn't have the
same clamping force as a planer. Bouncing boards create waves.

That was my plan, I have seen this happen on portable planers.


Those "sander cleaning erasers" are a must have. I get a lot of use
with them on my 12" disc, and can see how useful they will be with the
Performax.

I have learned to use them on my finish and ROS sanders also.


Dust collection is very effective with my Dust Dog equipped DC1100A.

I have the same and saw no dust on the few pieces that I was able to sand.

This thing really does a GREAT job once you get the technique down,
and the technique is not difficult to master.

I'm very happy with it and can see this thing getting even more work
than I anticipated. It's kind of cool to feed a 2" wide by 4" long
part through!

For sure, that is exactly what I wanted the machine for, short pieces that
would be impossible to run through a planer.



G Some of the QSWO I'm sanding gave the planer some
real tearout problems, and it all nicely sanded up! I can't wait to
see how it does with birds eye maple and burls!

Cool

I see mine getting most of it's use with an 80 grit wrap, sometimes
with a coarser, but rarely with a finer grit. I'm going to pick some
an ultra-bulk roll of 80 and some smaller packages of 36, 50, and 120.

I was thinking a finer grit as I want to do veneers and IIRC Jet offers a
combination assortment of grits. They may be a good way to test the
different grits a bit more economically.

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:51:16 -0500, B A R R Y
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:07:31 -0600, Chuck Taylor
wrote:


Please keep us posted on that. I got the same machine in July and
have had a terrible time getting the conveyor to track properly.

Have you called Performax?

Forget 6 months, I'd be complaining the next day! G


I've been assuming it was a faulty operator. I didn't know others
were having the same problem. If it turns out that the conveyor needs
to go back to Performax, it'll go back.


--
Chuck Taylor
http://home.hiwaay.net/~taylorc/contact/

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:07:31 -0600, Chuck Taylor
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:26:16 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

As usual I am a product tester. I have tracking problems with my conveyor
belt and Performax/Jet is sending me a new belt. I hope that fixes it other
wise I'll probably have to wait for a new conveyor assembly.


Please keep us posted on that. I got the same machine in July and
have had a terrible time getting the conveyor to track properly.

I had to go back to Performax 3 times to get a good working conveyor
assembly. It was all shipping damage. The adjustment screws for
adjusting tracking were all bent .They ship the conveyor with the
heavy motor at the top of the box so everytime someone slams the box
onto the floor the heavy motor comes crashing down, bending the
screws.

On the third conveyor I received, it too was damaged, but I was able
to combine parts from the other 2 to make a working conveyor.

I wish you luck in getting a new one since the conveyor, without being
strapped to a pallet with the rest of the unit is very easy to throw
around in shipment and damage.

dickm

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
. net...
Leon,

How big / heavy is the main 22-44 shipping container? Is it something a
healthy 40 year old can get off of a freight truck alone, maybe with a
pickup bed in between? I have ramps, dollies, hand trucks, etc...

I've seen estimates of 209 and 289 pounds. 209 is easily dealt with, 289
is bit harder. G

All of my larger tools were purchased locally and loaded on my equipment
with a forklift, this the first heavy tool I'm having delivered.

Thanks!


Per an earlier request of a follow up on my 22-44 Performax tracking
problem, it has disappeared.
Performax decided to send me a new conveyor belt however after removing the
belt and reversing it, and then back to the correct direction again and it
setting for about 10 days the belt has begun to track straight. It is still
too loose on one side and occasionally comes into contact with the sanding
drum when sanding 1/4" material however that does not seem to be an
immediate problem. I'll hang on the new spare just in case.

Performax warns that if you do not evenly adjust or adjust too tightly, the
belt could stretch over time. I suspect that because the belts come
installed and over tightened that mine was not evenly "over tightened" for
shipping and after relaxing for a couple of weeks has corrected itself some
what.

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:10:03 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

Per an earlier request of a follow up on my 22-44 Performax tracking
problem, it has disappeared.
Performax decided to send me a new conveyor belt however after removing the
belt and reversing it, and then back to the correct direction again and it
setting for about 10 days the belt has begun to track straight. It is still
too loose on one side and occasionally comes into contact with the sanding
drum when sanding 1/4" material however that does not seem to be an
immediate problem. I'll hang on the new spare just in case.


Thanks for the followup. I actually left mine loosened after toying
with it several days ago. Maybe I'm closer to the solution than I
realized.


--
Chuck Taylor
http://home.hiwaay.net/~taylorc/contact/

"Chuck Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:10:03 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

Per an earlier request of a follow up on my 22-44 Performax tracking
problem, it has disappeared.
Performax decided to send me a new conveyor belt however after removing
the
belt and reversing it, and then back to the correct direction again and it
setting for about 10 days the belt has begun to track straight. It is
still
too loose on one side and occasionally comes into contact with the sanding
drum when sanding 1/4" material however that does not seem to be an
immediate problem. I'll hang on the new spare just in case.


Thanks for the followup. I actually left mine loosened after toying
with it several days ago. Maybe I'm closer to the solution than I
realized.


I spoke to the rep a bit about how tight it should be and he indicated that
the belt should be tight \ to not slip. He agreed however that mine was too
loose on the right side.