It seems that I always end up with a bit gets stripped quickly.
The Phillip driver is the worth of them all.
I try to adjust the toque of my drill but it does not appear to work all
that good.
Up to now I used to get my screwdriving bits at Sears or Home Depot. I
quickly learned that they are all made in China.
This morning I picked up at Wal-Mart a Robertson #3 bit labelled Vermont
American USA. There are no stamping that shows made in USA. I can only
assumed that because its stamped USA that it is made in the US. Hopefully
they will perform longer the those stamped made in China.

wrote:

This morning I picked up at Wal-Mart a Robertson #3 bit labelled Vermont
American USA. There are no stamping that shows made in USA. I can only
assumed that because its stamped USA that it is made in the US. Hopefully
they will perform longer the those stamped made in China.



I wouldn't count on it. I bought a Vermont America drill bit once. I
was drilling a pen blank and the bit bound. The flutes on the bit
twisted to where they ended up being reeds (straight).

I only buy major brand bits now. DeWalt's bit seem to hold up fairly well.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

wrote:
It seems that I always end up with a bit gets stripped quickly.
The Phillip driver is the worth of them all.
I try to adjust the toque of my drill but it does not appear to work all
that good.
Up to now I used to get my screwdriving bits at Sears or Home Depot. I
quickly learned that they are all made in China.
This morning I picked up at Wal-Mart a Robertson #3 bit labelled Vermont
American USA. There are no stamping that shows made in USA. I can only
assumed that because its stamped USA that it is made in the US. Hopefully
they will perform longer the those stamped made in China.

VA, like many others, has wide range of products, some still US-made,
others imports. Which is what is on the card packaging. At WalMart,
I'd expect the cheapest as that's what their business model supports.

Your local _real_ building supply will have bulk drivers/bits at
comparable (or maybe better, even in bulk) that will be far better than
what you're likely to find at any borg. But, in general, you must
remember that driver bits are, in essence, a consumable, just like
pencil lead or erasers in the office.

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...
It seems that I always end up with a bit gets stripped quickly.
The Phillip driver is the worth of them all.
I try to adjust the toque of my drill but it does not appear to work all
that good.
Up to now I used to get my screwdriving bits at Sears or Home Depot. I
quickly learned that they are all made in China.
This morning I picked up at Wal-Mart a Robertson #3 bit labelled Vermont
American USA. There are no stamping that shows made in USA. I can only
assumed that because its stamped USA that it is made in the US. Hopefully
they will perform longer the those stamped made in China.


You may find that the #3 may be too big. More common are the #2 bits. Most
any hardware store or home center will sell these square drive bits. Also
www.mcfeeleys.com .

I only use Phillips bits to remove screws. I always use square drive to put
in screws.

wrote in message
This morning I picked up at Wal-Mart a Robertson #3 bit labelled Vermont
American USA. There are no stamping that shows made in USA. I can only
assumed that because its stamped USA that it is made in the US. Hopefully
they will perform longer the those stamped made in China.

Now that is funny!

Soft of like the cars on the www.nissanusa.com web site must be made in the
USA. Or Cannon USA cameras are build in the USA. or like the . . . . . .
you get the idea.

Take a few minutes and order from Lee Valley or McFeeleys.

Soft of like the cars on the www.nissanusa.com web site must be made in the
USA. Or Cannon USA cameras are build in the USA. or like the . . . . . .
you get the idea.

Take a few minutes and order from Lee Valley or McFeeleys.

answer: Thanks, your advise is well taken about Lee Valley.
As far as Cannon USA I do not know
I just bought a Canon Power Shot A710. At the bottom its stamped made in
Japan.
As for Cannon USA: Cannon-USA is located at 1472 East River Road Grand
Island and they are Manufacturer of hard wood tables and furniture.
However, you will find Cannon Digital camera are made in Hong Kong. They
are a low priced look alike of the Canon Camera.
In the Philippines they are widely used and liked by the local people and
non for profit organisations. FWIW



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This morning I picked up at Wal-Mart a Robertson #3 bit labelled Vermont
American USA. There are no stamping that shows made in USA. I can only
assumed that because its stamped USA that it is made in the US.
Hopefully they will perform longer the those stamped made in China.

Now that is funny!

some bits better than others



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It seems that I always end up with a bit gets stripped quickly.
The Phillip driver is the worth of them all.
I try to adjust the toque of my drill but it does not appear to work
all that good.
Up to now I used to get my screwdriving bits at Sears or Home Depot.
I quickly learned that they are all made in China.
This morning I picked up at Wal-Mart a Robertson #3 bit labelled
Vermont American USA. There are no stamping that shows made in USA.
I can only assumed that because its stamped USA that it is made in the
US. Hopefully they will perform longer the those stamped made in
China.



You know what bits I find to be really good? The ones that come with
those hand-held "stick" screwdrivers. I've used a couple for years with
little degregation of the tip.

Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

Go to a commercial tool store or a commercial drywall supply
house, they carry well tempered bits. Apex brand is one of the
best, but others can be quite good. McFeelys has excellent screws
and bits if you want to work with mail order.
http://www.mcfeelys.com/. It could be argued they have better
screws than you can even buy at the Borg(s).

If the bit is slipping and/or stripping either the tip or the
screw, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. You are not pushing hard enough. It
takes a great deal of pressure to keep up with the thread speed on
a fast gun. If you slow the speed way down, it is a bit easier
but still requires genuine pressure. Some bits are tempered too
hard and you snap the tip off, some are too soft and lose their
shape. The problems really have more to do with the operator.

Robertson tips work well with Robertson screws. They do not do
well with Philips head and vice versa.

__________________________
Keep the whole world singing. . . .
DanG


wrote in message
...
It seems that I always end up with a bit gets stripped quickly.
The Phillip driver is the worth of them all.
I try to adjust the toque of my drill but it does not appear to
work all that good.
Up to now I used to get my screwdriving bits at Sears or Home
Depot. I quickly learned that they are all made in China.
This morning I picked up at Wal-Mart a Robertson #3 bit labelled
Vermont American USA. There are no stamping that shows made in
USA. I can only assumed that because its stamped USA that it is
made in the US. Hopefully they will perform longer the those
stamped made in China.

"DanG" wrote in message
...
Go to a commercial tool store or a commercial drywall supply house, they
carry well tempered bits. Apex brand is one of the best, but others can
be quite good. McFeelys has excellent screws and bits if you want to work
with mail order. http://www.mcfeelys.com/. It could be argued they have
better screws than you can even buy at the Borg(s).

There would be no argument, McFeeleys screws are superrior to the plated
Velveta cheese screws that the Borg sells.

"DanG" wrote in message
...
Go to a commercial tool store or a commercial drywall supply house, they
carry well tempered bits. Apex brand is one of the best, but others can
be quite good. McFeelys has excellent screws and bits if you want to work
with mail order. http://www.mcfeelys.com/. It could be argued they have
better screws than you can even buy at the Borg(s).

If the bit is slipping and/or stripping either the tip or the screw, YOU
ARE THE PROBLEM. You are not pushing hard enough. It takes a great deal
of pressure to keep up with the thread speed on a fast gun. If you slow
the speed way down, it is a bit easier but still requires genuine
pressure. Some bits are tempered too hard and you snap the tip off, some
are too soft and lose their shape. The problems really have more to do
with the operator.

Robertson tips work well with Robertson screws. They do not do well with
Philips head and vice versa.

__________________________
Keep the whole world singing. . . .
DanG


wrote in message
...
It seems that I always end up with a bit gets stripped quickly.
The Phillip driver is the worth of them all.
I try to adjust the toque of my drill but it does not appear to work all
that good.
Up to now I used to get my screwdriving bits at Sears or Home Depot. I
quickly learned that they are all made in China.
This morning I picked up at Wal-Mart a Robertson #3 bit labelled Vermont
American USA. There are no stamping that shows made in USA. I can only
assumed that because its stamped USA that it is made in the US.
Hopefully they will perform longer the those stamped made in China.


Spend the money for an impact drill. The bit reseats itself between
impacts, meaning you don't have to push hard and fight the torque of the
drill. Your bits will last a lot longer. Even the cheap ones. You won't
strip the heads of the screws near as often. I've been using a Dewalt and a
Ryobi daily for the last year. Dewalt was $259 with battery and charger.
Ryobi was $59 without the battery and charger. They both have 1/4" quick
change hex chucks. My other battery drills with screw chucks went to
Salvation Army a long time ago. Make your life a little easier........

Merry Christmas

gw

Leon wrote:

I only use Phillips bits to remove screws. I always use square drive to put
in screws.

???!!!

Okay, I'll bite. Are the screws themselves Phillips or square drive?

Mark

redbelly (in )
said:

| Leon wrote:
|
|| I only use Phillips bits to remove screws. I always use square
|| drive to put in screws.
|
| ???!!!
|
| Okay, I'll bite. Are the screws themselves Phillips or square
| drive?

Yes. vbg

Screws coming out are phillips, screws going in are square drive.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto

Morris Dovey wrote:
redbelly (in )
said:

| Leon wrote:
|
|| I only use Phillips bits to remove screws. I always use square
|| drive to put in screws.
|
| ???!!!
|
| Okay, I'll bite. Are the screws themselves Phillips or square
| drive?

Yes. vbg

Screws coming out are phillips, screws going in are square drive.

Heh heh. Okay, I got it now.