I am working on a Frank Klausz style workbench with a tail vise and shoulder
vise. However I have a wooden vise screw for each and I do not know how I
should connect the shoulder vise face to the vise screw. Frank's bench uses
metal hardware so there is a plate that the screw fits into to allow a
little movement of the vise face. I thought to just put a screw through the
face into the end of the screw but I don't know if I can get the same
movement of the face as his bench. Any advise would be helpful and if anyone
has built a shoulder vise with a wood screw that can share pictures would be
wonderful.

Thank you,
Bruce

"Bruce E. Harang II" wrote:

I am working on a Frank Klausz style workbench with a tail vise and shoulder
vise. However I have a wooden vise screw for each and I do not know how I
should connect the shoulder vise face to the vise screw. Frank's bench uses
metal hardware so there is a plate that the screw fits into to allow a
little movement of the vise face. I thought to just put a screw through the
face into the end of the screw but I don't know if I can get the same
movement of the face as his bench. Any advise would be helpful and if anyone
has built a shoulder vise with a wood screw that can share pictures would be
wonderful.

Thank you,
Bruce

Bruce,

On mine, I solved that problem by ignoring it! I just left the jaw
face unattached. That adds an extra step when opening the vise--after
backing off the crew, I manually pull back the face. Of course, when
claiming same-thickness pieces, that is not an issue; just loosen the
screw, remove one piece and slip another in, then retighten. Even if I
attached it (and I'd screw a metal disk with a stand-off busing to the
end of the screw and a "u"-shaped receptacle on the back of the jaw,
per the Klausz design), I think I'd still be moving or adjusting the
jaw manually to make it parallel to the work--I might have allowed too
much "play" for unparallel jaws, and it doesn't move smoothly without
being held parallel.

Only change I'd make is to put the screw as near to the top of the
shoulder as strength considerations will allow. I put mine at the
center of a 5" wide shoulder, and when clamping narrow pieces, the
point of contact for the screw is below the piece, making for jaw
contact only along the bottom of the workpiece. Not a big deal--just
put a scrap the same thickness at the bottom of the clamp to force it
to parallel.

Will email a photo.
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alexy wrote:

Okay, that's what I get for letting a spell checker do the thinking
for me. I think the intent below was clear, but just in case:

On mine, I solved that problem by ignoring it! I just left the jaw
face unattached. That adds an extra step when opening the vise--after
backing off the crew, I manually pull back the face. Of course, when
claiming **CLAMPING** same-thickness pieces, that is not an issue; just loosen the
screw, remove one piece and slip another in, then retighten. Even if I
attached it (and I'd screw a metal disk with a stand-off busing **BUSHING** to the
end of the screw and a "u"-shaped receptacle on the back of the jaw,
per the Klausz design), I think I'd still be moving or adjusting the
jaw manually to make it parallel to the work--I might have allowed too
much "play" for unparallel jaws, and it doesn't move smoothly without
being held parallel.

Only change I'd make is to put the screw as near to the top of the
shoulder as strength considerations will allow. I put mine at the
center of a 5" wide shoulder, and when clamping narrow pieces, the
point of contact for the screw is below the piece, making for jaw
contact only along the bottom of the workpiece. Not a big deal--just
put a scrap the same thickness at the bottom of the clamp to force it
to parallel.

Will email a photo.

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Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

Bruce E. Harang II wrote:
I am working on a Frank Klausz style workbench with a tail vise and shoulder
vise. However I have a wooden vise screw for each and I do not know how I
should connect the shoulder vise face to the vise screw. Frank's bench uses
metal hardware so there is a plate that the screw fits into to allow a
little movement of the vise face. I thought to just put a screw through the
face into the end of the screw but I don't know if I can get the same
movement of the face as his bench. Any advise would be helpful and if anyone
has built a shoulder vise with a wood screw that can share pictures would be
wonderful.

Thank you,
Bruce

On my old wood working bench, the screws are held to the vise face,
with a round spilt plate, that screws to the outside of the face,
after the screw is inserted into the face. It's basically a large
spilt washer. It must ride in a groove in the screw.
On the plates, it has the mane "Hammacher Schlemmer & Co"
Hope this helps, Cliff